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Participant[quote=macromaniac]Scarlet, take a chill pill. If you want to defend the UAW and a business model that makes no sense at all then feel free….you may not want to do it in this camp though….check out this graph when you get a minute….
http://jobimplode.com/?p=169
[/quote]Thanks for the advice. I knew I was gonna take a beating but I never shy away from this arguement. In no area can I think of is the average American more selfish and ignorant.
Your graph link is a perfect example. Do you know why it looks so crazy? Do you actually believe its because the UAW worker brings home big fat pay checks?
I have a feeling you don’t. You know its because of healthcare. That chart shows wages and benefits combined. GM has 100 years of people they promised pensions and benfits too. The tens of thousands of Americans GM supports (so tax payers don’t have too((yet)) is lumped into the poor UAW workers pay by the MSM and you get the absurd $70 an hour number they toss out.
I’m getting tired and I know I’ll never get through to any of you but at least why don’t you go look at our healthcare system versus Japan’s and how it affects that number in your graph. Maybe you be enlightened.
Participant[quote=macromaniac]Scarlet, take a chill pill. If you want to defend the UAW and a business model that makes no sense at all then feel free….you may not want to do it in this camp though….check out this graph when you get a minute….
http://jobimplode.com/?p=169
[/quote]Thanks for the advice. I knew I was gonna take a beating but I never shy away from this arguement. In no area can I think of is the average American more selfish and ignorant.
Your graph link is a perfect example. Do you know why it looks so crazy? Do you actually believe its because the UAW worker brings home big fat pay checks?
I have a feeling you don’t. You know its because of healthcare. That chart shows wages and benefits combined. GM has 100 years of people they promised pensions and benfits too. The tens of thousands of Americans GM supports (so tax payers don’t have too((yet)) is lumped into the poor UAW workers pay by the MSM and you get the absurd $70 an hour number they toss out.
I’m getting tired and I know I’ll never get through to any of you but at least why don’t you go look at our healthcare system versus Japan’s and how it affects that number in your graph. Maybe you be enlightened.
Participant[quote=macromaniac]Scarlet, take a chill pill. If you want to defend the UAW and a business model that makes no sense at all then feel free….you may not want to do it in this camp though….check out this graph when you get a minute….
http://jobimplode.com/?p=169
[/quote]Thanks for the advice. I knew I was gonna take a beating but I never shy away from this arguement. In no area can I think of is the average American more selfish and ignorant.
Your graph link is a perfect example. Do you know why it looks so crazy? Do you actually believe its because the UAW worker brings home big fat pay checks?
I have a feeling you don’t. You know its because of healthcare. That chart shows wages and benefits combined. GM has 100 years of people they promised pensions and benfits too. The tens of thousands of Americans GM supports (so tax payers don’t have too((yet)) is lumped into the poor UAW workers pay by the MSM and you get the absurd $70 an hour number they toss out.
I’m getting tired and I know I’ll never get through to any of you but at least why don’t you go look at our healthcare system versus Japan’s and how it affects that number in your graph. Maybe you be enlightened.
Participant[quote=macromaniac]Scarlet, take a chill pill. If you want to defend the UAW and a business model that makes no sense at all then feel free….you may not want to do it in this camp though….check out this graph when you get a minute….
http://jobimplode.com/?p=169
[/quote]Thanks for the advice. I knew I was gonna take a beating but I never shy away from this arguement. In no area can I think of is the average American more selfish and ignorant.
Your graph link is a perfect example. Do you know why it looks so crazy? Do you actually believe its because the UAW worker brings home big fat pay checks?
I have a feeling you don’t. You know its because of healthcare. That chart shows wages and benefits combined. GM has 100 years of people they promised pensions and benfits too. The tens of thousands of Americans GM supports (so tax payers don’t have too((yet)) is lumped into the poor UAW workers pay by the MSM and you get the absurd $70 an hour number they toss out.
I’m getting tired and I know I’ll never get through to any of you but at least why don’t you go look at our healthcare system versus Japan’s and how it affects that number in your graph. Maybe you be enlightened.
Participant[quote=afx114]As with any product, people should purchase vehicles based quality rather than the label that is affixed to the grill.[/quote]
Is life really that black and white?
What if you throw in a few variables such as:
1) Unless the quality difference is of such a minor extent that supporting domestic jobs and one’s country takes precedence?
2) The multiplier negative affect of my gaining a tiny advantage, negates my tiny advantage gained?
Participant[quote=afx114]As with any product, people should purchase vehicles based quality rather than the label that is affixed to the grill.[/quote]
Is life really that black and white?
What if you throw in a few variables such as:
1) Unless the quality difference is of such a minor extent that supporting domestic jobs and one’s country takes precedence?
2) The multiplier negative affect of my gaining a tiny advantage, negates my tiny advantage gained?
Participant[quote=afx114]As with any product, people should purchase vehicles based quality rather than the label that is affixed to the grill.[/quote]
Is life really that black and white?
What if you throw in a few variables such as:
1) Unless the quality difference is of such a minor extent that supporting domestic jobs and one’s country takes precedence?
2) The multiplier negative affect of my gaining a tiny advantage, negates my tiny advantage gained?
Participant[quote=afx114]As with any product, people should purchase vehicles based quality rather than the label that is affixed to the grill.[/quote]
Is life really that black and white?
What if you throw in a few variables such as:
1) Unless the quality difference is of such a minor extent that supporting domestic jobs and one’s country takes precedence?
2) The multiplier negative affect of my gaining a tiny advantage, negates my tiny advantage gained?
Participant[quote=afx114]As with any product, people should purchase vehicles based quality rather than the label that is affixed to the grill.[/quote]
Is life really that black and white?
What if you throw in a few variables such as:
1) Unless the quality difference is of such a minor extent that supporting domestic jobs and one’s country takes precedence?
2) The multiplier negative affect of my gaining a tiny advantage, negates my tiny advantage gained?
Participant[quote=socrattt][quote=Scarlet]SOCRATT, Thanks for jumping into the kiddie pool.
Toyota and Honda are really hurting right now, or haven’t you heard? You might want to take your ear off the corporate lemming phone. Did toyota, honda , nissan and mazda fail to understand the market?
Guess what? That Aztek is an absolutely awesome vehicle. Now I know in third grade something that is funny looking is to be ridiculed but you know not of what you speak concerning that vehicle. How do i know? The Aztek is the sister SUV to my Buick. Crawl around and under one next time you see one. Beauty is skin deep and I think even the most Japanese of Japan fans will appreciate the mechanicle wonder of the vehicle.
The pinto was and easy target, I’ll give you that one.
Old Raleighs are better than old Peugots and newer versions of both makes suck.[/quote]
Scarlet are you married to Breeze (sorry Breeze I actually dig the last couple of your posts)? You defend every post as if you have any clue. If you truly are driving the sister vehicle to the Aztek that would seem to answer most of my questions about you. Don’t continue to embarrass yourself with all the replies to these posters simply because you have a Buick that somehow made it past 70K miles.
You are as ignorant as those you speak of in these posts with the small tidbits of understanding you have of these car manufacturers. You are the typical, buy American because we are in America. Sorry, but I wouldn’t buy American if you paid me to. Your thoughtless comment on Honda and Toyota again answer my questions about you. Did you know we are in a global recession? Has Toyota or Honda asked for a government bailout? Of course they are hurting, so are you and your neighbor. Everyone hurts with a global recession. In the end the strong survive and the weak will fail. You are sharp as the car you drive if you think we should be bailing out these auto makers. Wake up Scarlet and stop writing these letters![/quote]
Oh great SOCRATTS please enlighten us with your wealth of wisdom of these car manufacturers since I have such tidbits of understanding myself. Your a punk. Your entire response is sophmoric and contains no facts just neener-neener.
Pleased tell us about MY car…..or do you actually know anything?
“Sorry, but I wouldn’t buy American if you paid me to.”
Wow, will you hold your breath if I do try to make you?
Please share “your” THOUGHTFUL comments about Toyota and Honda? You don’t have any do you?
Dude, take off the ear-muffs, you are following the other lemmings off the cliff. Do a little research, its important. I’ll get you started:
If GM is allowed to go into BK and all those pensions and benefits get wiped out with a judges pen, who will pay to pick up the pieces of those shattered lives? Who will pocket the money?Participant[quote=socrattt][quote=Scarlet]SOCRATT, Thanks for jumping into the kiddie pool.
Toyota and Honda are really hurting right now, or haven’t you heard? You might want to take your ear off the corporate lemming phone. Did toyota, honda , nissan and mazda fail to understand the market?
Guess what? That Aztek is an absolutely awesome vehicle. Now I know in third grade something that is funny looking is to be ridiculed but you know not of what you speak concerning that vehicle. How do i know? The Aztek is the sister SUV to my Buick. Crawl around and under one next time you see one. Beauty is skin deep and I think even the most Japanese of Japan fans will appreciate the mechanicle wonder of the vehicle.
The pinto was and easy target, I’ll give you that one.
Old Raleighs are better than old Peugots and newer versions of both makes suck.[/quote]
Scarlet are you married to Breeze (sorry Breeze I actually dig the last couple of your posts)? You defend every post as if you have any clue. If you truly are driving the sister vehicle to the Aztek that would seem to answer most of my questions about you. Don’t continue to embarrass yourself with all the replies to these posters simply because you have a Buick that somehow made it past 70K miles.
You are as ignorant as those you speak of in these posts with the small tidbits of understanding you have of these car manufacturers. You are the typical, buy American because we are in America. Sorry, but I wouldn’t buy American if you paid me to. Your thoughtless comment on Honda and Toyota again answer my questions about you. Did you know we are in a global recession? Has Toyota or Honda asked for a government bailout? Of course they are hurting, so are you and your neighbor. Everyone hurts with a global recession. In the end the strong survive and the weak will fail. You are sharp as the car you drive if you think we should be bailing out these auto makers. Wake up Scarlet and stop writing these letters![/quote]
Oh great SOCRATTS please enlighten us with your wealth of wisdom of these car manufacturers since I have such tidbits of understanding myself. Your a punk. Your entire response is sophmoric and contains no facts just neener-neener.
Pleased tell us about MY car…..or do you actually know anything?
“Sorry, but I wouldn’t buy American if you paid me to.”
Wow, will you hold your breath if I do try to make you?
Please share “your” THOUGHTFUL comments about Toyota and Honda? You don’t have any do you?
Dude, take off the ear-muffs, you are following the other lemmings off the cliff. Do a little research, its important. I’ll get you started:
If GM is allowed to go into BK and all those pensions and benefits get wiped out with a judges pen, who will pay to pick up the pieces of those shattered lives? Who will pocket the money?Participant[quote=socrattt][quote=Scarlet]SOCRATT, Thanks for jumping into the kiddie pool.
Toyota and Honda are really hurting right now, or haven’t you heard? You might want to take your ear off the corporate lemming phone. Did toyota, honda , nissan and mazda fail to understand the market?
Guess what? That Aztek is an absolutely awesome vehicle. Now I know in third grade something that is funny looking is to be ridiculed but you know not of what you speak concerning that vehicle. How do i know? The Aztek is the sister SUV to my Buick. Crawl around and under one next time you see one. Beauty is skin deep and I think even the most Japanese of Japan fans will appreciate the mechanicle wonder of the vehicle.
The pinto was and easy target, I’ll give you that one.
Old Raleighs are better than old Peugots and newer versions of both makes suck.[/quote]
Scarlet are you married to Breeze (sorry Breeze I actually dig the last couple of your posts)? You defend every post as if you have any clue. If you truly are driving the sister vehicle to the Aztek that would seem to answer most of my questions about you. Don’t continue to embarrass yourself with all the replies to these posters simply because you have a Buick that somehow made it past 70K miles.
You are as ignorant as those you speak of in these posts with the small tidbits of understanding you have of these car manufacturers. You are the typical, buy American because we are in America. Sorry, but I wouldn’t buy American if you paid me to. Your thoughtless comment on Honda and Toyota again answer my questions about you. Did you know we are in a global recession? Has Toyota or Honda asked for a government bailout? Of course they are hurting, so are you and your neighbor. Everyone hurts with a global recession. In the end the strong survive and the weak will fail. You are sharp as the car you drive if you think we should be bailing out these auto makers. Wake up Scarlet and stop writing these letters![/quote]
Oh great SOCRATTS please enlighten us with your wealth of wisdom of these car manufacturers since I have such tidbits of understanding myself. Your a punk. Your entire response is sophmoric and contains no facts just neener-neener.
Pleased tell us about MY car…..or do you actually know anything?
“Sorry, but I wouldn’t buy American if you paid me to.”
Wow, will you hold your breath if I do try to make you?
Please share “your” THOUGHTFUL comments about Toyota and Honda? You don’t have any do you?
Dude, take off the ear-muffs, you are following the other lemmings off the cliff. Do a little research, its important. I’ll get you started:
If GM is allowed to go into BK and all those pensions and benefits get wiped out with a judges pen, who will pay to pick up the pieces of those shattered lives? Who will pocket the money?Participant[quote=socrattt][quote=Scarlet]SOCRATT, Thanks for jumping into the kiddie pool.
Toyota and Honda are really hurting right now, or haven’t you heard? You might want to take your ear off the corporate lemming phone. Did toyota, honda , nissan and mazda fail to understand the market?
Guess what? That Aztek is an absolutely awesome vehicle. Now I know in third grade something that is funny looking is to be ridiculed but you know not of what you speak concerning that vehicle. How do i know? The Aztek is the sister SUV to my Buick. Crawl around and under one next time you see one. Beauty is skin deep and I think even the most Japanese of Japan fans will appreciate the mechanicle wonder of the vehicle.
The pinto was and easy target, I’ll give you that one.
Old Raleighs are better than old Peugots and newer versions of both makes suck.[/quote]
Scarlet are you married to Breeze (sorry Breeze I actually dig the last couple of your posts)? You defend every post as if you have any clue. If you truly are driving the sister vehicle to the Aztek that would seem to answer most of my questions about you. Don’t continue to embarrass yourself with all the replies to these posters simply because you have a Buick that somehow made it past 70K miles.
You are as ignorant as those you speak of in these posts with the small tidbits of understanding you have of these car manufacturers. You are the typical, buy American because we are in America. Sorry, but I wouldn’t buy American if you paid me to. Your thoughtless comment on Honda and Toyota again answer my questions about you. Did you know we are in a global recession? Has Toyota or Honda asked for a government bailout? Of course they are hurting, so are you and your neighbor. Everyone hurts with a global recession. In the end the strong survive and the weak will fail. You are sharp as the car you drive if you think we should be bailing out these auto makers. Wake up Scarlet and stop writing these letters![/quote]
Oh great SOCRATTS please enlighten us with your wealth of wisdom of these car manufacturers since I have such tidbits of understanding myself. Your a punk. Your entire response is sophmoric and contains no facts just neener-neener.
Pleased tell us about MY car…..or do you actually know anything?
“Sorry, but I wouldn’t buy American if you paid me to.”
Wow, will you hold your breath if I do try to make you?
Please share “your” THOUGHTFUL comments about Toyota and Honda? You don’t have any do you?
Dude, take off the ear-muffs, you are following the other lemmings off the cliff. Do a little research, its important. I’ll get you started:
If GM is allowed to go into BK and all those pensions and benefits get wiped out with a judges pen, who will pay to pick up the pieces of those shattered lives? Who will pocket the money?Participant[quote=socrattt][quote=Scarlet]SOCRATT, Thanks for jumping into the kiddie pool.
Toyota and Honda are really hurting right now, or haven’t you heard? You might want to take your ear off the corporate lemming phone. Did toyota, honda , nissan and mazda fail to understand the market?
Guess what? That Aztek is an absolutely awesome vehicle. Now I know in third grade something that is funny looking is to be ridiculed but you know not of what you speak concerning that vehicle. How do i know? The Aztek is the sister SUV to my Buick. Crawl around and under one next time you see one. Beauty is skin deep and I think even the most Japanese of Japan fans will appreciate the mechanicle wonder of the vehicle.
The pinto was and easy target, I’ll give you that one.
Old Raleighs are better than old Peugots and newer versions of both makes suck.[/quote]
Scarlet are you married to Breeze (sorry Breeze I actually dig the last couple of your posts)? You defend every post as if you have any clue. If you truly are driving the sister vehicle to the Aztek that would seem to answer most of my questions about you. Don’t continue to embarrass yourself with all the replies to these posters simply because you have a Buick that somehow made it past 70K miles.
You are as ignorant as those you speak of in these posts with the small tidbits of understanding you have of these car manufacturers. You are the typical, buy American because we are in America. Sorry, but I wouldn’t buy American if you paid me to. Your thoughtless comment on Honda and Toyota again answer my questions about you. Did you know we are in a global recession? Has Toyota or Honda asked for a government bailout? Of course they are hurting, so are you and your neighbor. Everyone hurts with a global recession. In the end the strong survive and the weak will fail. You are sharp as the car you drive if you think we should be bailing out these auto makers. Wake up Scarlet and stop writing these letters![/quote]
Oh great SOCRATTS please enlighten us with your wealth of wisdom of these car manufacturers since I have such tidbits of understanding myself. Your a punk. Your entire response is sophmoric and contains no facts just neener-neener.
Pleased tell us about MY car…..or do you actually know anything?
“Sorry, but I wouldn’t buy American if you paid me to.”
Wow, will you hold your breath if I do try to make you?
Please share “your” THOUGHTFUL comments about Toyota and Honda? You don’t have any do you?
Dude, take off the ear-muffs, you are following the other lemmings off the cliff. Do a little research, its important. I’ll get you started:
If GM is allowed to go into BK and all those pensions and benefits get wiped out with a judges pen, who will pay to pick up the pieces of those shattered lives? Who will pocket the money? -
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