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Participant[quote=UCGal]
I think targeting your anger towards public union employees is missing the point. The public employee worker bees are not the problem. Until 10-15 years ago private employers offered similar benefits to private sector, non-union, employees.[/quote]
I’m not sure where you mean in the last 10-15 years. This sounds like something from another era, like the 1950’s or 1960’s. I’m not saying defined benefit pensions weren’t more common 10-15 years ago, but they couldn’t have been as rich as what we see in government.
Seriously, there were private employees getting 2.5% for every year worked starting at age 55 as recently as 15 years ago? Maybe at the Big 3 auto makers but how about in this part of the country? Every place I’ve worked going back to the 1980’s it’s been IRA or 403B or 401k usually with a modest employer match.
Participant[quote=UCGal]
I think targeting your anger towards public union employees is missing the point. The public employee worker bees are not the problem. Until 10-15 years ago private employers offered similar benefits to private sector, non-union, employees.[/quote]
I’m not sure where you mean in the last 10-15 years. This sounds like something from another era, like the 1950’s or 1960’s. I’m not saying defined benefit pensions weren’t more common 10-15 years ago, but they couldn’t have been as rich as what we see in government.
Seriously, there were private employees getting 2.5% for every year worked starting at age 55 as recently as 15 years ago? Maybe at the Big 3 auto makers but how about in this part of the country? Every place I’ve worked going back to the 1980’s it’s been IRA or 403B or 401k usually with a modest employer match.
Participant[quote=briansd1]
And she’s going on 90yo and still in excellent health. Her health care cost to society is less than $500/year (she sees the doctor only once a year and sometimes she skips a year), but she contributes much more than that in Medicare premiums.
[/quote]If she’s in a Medicare Advantage HMO she’s costing taxpayers way more than $500/year. The HMO is reaping the benefit.
Participant[quote=briansd1]
And she’s going on 90yo and still in excellent health. Her health care cost to society is less than $500/year (she sees the doctor only once a year and sometimes she skips a year), but she contributes much more than that in Medicare premiums.
[/quote]If she’s in a Medicare Advantage HMO she’s costing taxpayers way more than $500/year. The HMO is reaping the benefit.
Participant[quote=briansd1]
And she’s going on 90yo and still in excellent health. Her health care cost to society is less than $500/year (she sees the doctor only once a year and sometimes she skips a year), but she contributes much more than that in Medicare premiums.
[/quote]If she’s in a Medicare Advantage HMO she’s costing taxpayers way more than $500/year. The HMO is reaping the benefit.
Participant[quote=briansd1]
And she’s going on 90yo and still in excellent health. Her health care cost to society is less than $500/year (she sees the doctor only once a year and sometimes she skips a year), but she contributes much more than that in Medicare premiums.
[/quote]If she’s in a Medicare Advantage HMO she’s costing taxpayers way more than $500/year. The HMO is reaping the benefit.
Participant[quote=briansd1]
And she’s going on 90yo and still in excellent health. Her health care cost to society is less than $500/year (she sees the doctor only once a year and sometimes she skips a year), but she contributes much more than that in Medicare premiums.
[/quote]If she’s in a Medicare Advantage HMO she’s costing taxpayers way more than $500/year. The HMO is reaping the benefit.
ParticipantI know $530k looks cheap compared to $750k, but peak pricing was so retarded it qualified for the Special Olympics. Not saying $300k is possible but do you really think a house is worth 77% more than a decade ago, especially in today’s economy?
Raising interest rates could shock the real estate market enough to crash it. Cheap credit and government manipulation have kept things propped up as high as they are.
We might be close to a bottom in some areas but I doubt any areas still selling for $500k are close to it.
ParticipantI know $530k looks cheap compared to $750k, but peak pricing was so retarded it qualified for the Special Olympics. Not saying $300k is possible but do you really think a house is worth 77% more than a decade ago, especially in today’s economy?
Raising interest rates could shock the real estate market enough to crash it. Cheap credit and government manipulation have kept things propped up as high as they are.
We might be close to a bottom in some areas but I doubt any areas still selling for $500k are close to it.
ParticipantI know $530k looks cheap compared to $750k, but peak pricing was so retarded it qualified for the Special Olympics. Not saying $300k is possible but do you really think a house is worth 77% more than a decade ago, especially in today’s economy?
Raising interest rates could shock the real estate market enough to crash it. Cheap credit and government manipulation have kept things propped up as high as they are.
We might be close to a bottom in some areas but I doubt any areas still selling for $500k are close to it.
ParticipantI know $530k looks cheap compared to $750k, but peak pricing was so retarded it qualified for the Special Olympics. Not saying $300k is possible but do you really think a house is worth 77% more than a decade ago, especially in today’s economy?
Raising interest rates could shock the real estate market enough to crash it. Cheap credit and government manipulation have kept things propped up as high as they are.
We might be close to a bottom in some areas but I doubt any areas still selling for $500k are close to it.
ParticipantI know $530k looks cheap compared to $750k, but peak pricing was so retarded it qualified for the Special Olympics. Not saying $300k is possible but do you really think a house is worth 77% more than a decade ago, especially in today’s economy?
Raising interest rates could shock the real estate market enough to crash it. Cheap credit and government manipulation have kept things propped up as high as they are.
We might be close to a bottom in some areas but I doubt any areas still selling for $500k are close to it.
ParticipantThe shrinking products bother me most, because that’s an increase they’re trying to impose surreptitiously.
Examples: tuna cans from 6oz to 5oz, store brand yogurt from 8oz to 6oz, “half gallon” ice cream from 2 quarts to 1.75 quarts to now 1.5 quarts, Haagen Dazs pints now 14oz.
At least some toilet paper is narrower than before which was obvious when seeing some older and newer product stacked together. There are no doubt dozens of other products that have shrunk.
ParticipantThe shrinking products bother me most, because that’s an increase they’re trying to impose surreptitiously.
Examples: tuna cans from 6oz to 5oz, store brand yogurt from 8oz to 6oz, “half gallon” ice cream from 2 quarts to 1.75 quarts to now 1.5 quarts, Haagen Dazs pints now 14oz.
At least some toilet paper is narrower than before which was obvious when seeing some older and newer product stacked together. There are no doubt dozens of other products that have shrunk.
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