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peterb
ParticipantIs the median home price now about 3 to 5 times median income?
Has the inventory come down to about 5000 houses?
Has the median home price not dropped YOY?
Has unemployment come down to 5.5% or lower?
Is getting a home loan now easier?
I’m thinking the answer to these questions is not only “No”, but that conditions for the market are worsening right now. Most markets tend to over correct. So we’ve probably got a long way to go yet.
peterb
ParticipantIs the median home price now about 3 to 5 times median income?
Has the inventory come down to about 5000 houses?
Has the median home price not dropped YOY?
Has unemployment come down to 5.5% or lower?
Is getting a home loan now easier?
I’m thinking the answer to these questions is not only “No”, but that conditions for the market are worsening right now. Most markets tend to over correct. So we’ve probably got a long way to go yet.
peterb
ParticipantIs the median home price now about 3 to 5 times median income?
Has the inventory come down to about 5000 houses?
Has the median home price not dropped YOY?
Has unemployment come down to 5.5% or lower?
Is getting a home loan now easier?
I’m thinking the answer to these questions is not only “No”, but that conditions for the market are worsening right now. Most markets tend to over correct. So we’ve probably got a long way to go yet.
peterb
ParticipantIs the median home price now about 3 to 5 times median income?
Has the inventory come down to about 5000 houses?
Has the median home price not dropped YOY?
Has unemployment come down to 5.5% or lower?
Is getting a home loan now easier?
I’m thinking the answer to these questions is not only “No”, but that conditions for the market are worsening right now. Most markets tend to over correct. So we’ve probably got a long way to go yet.
September 9, 2008 at 11:48 PM in reply to: Will owning a home soon become as common as owning a car? #268464peterb
ParticipantYeah, if you dont mind the house being in Modesto.
Given the huge number of condo’s built in down town SD, perhaps those will get pretty cheap. I’ve heard you can get a place in Temecula for the price of a Hummer. But maybe that’s a barter deal?September 9, 2008 at 11:48 PM in reply to: Will owning a home soon become as common as owning a car? #268688peterb
ParticipantYeah, if you dont mind the house being in Modesto.
Given the huge number of condo’s built in down town SD, perhaps those will get pretty cheap. I’ve heard you can get a place in Temecula for the price of a Hummer. But maybe that’s a barter deal?September 9, 2008 at 11:48 PM in reply to: Will owning a home soon become as common as owning a car? #268702peterb
ParticipantYeah, if you dont mind the house being in Modesto.
Given the huge number of condo’s built in down town SD, perhaps those will get pretty cheap. I’ve heard you can get a place in Temecula for the price of a Hummer. But maybe that’s a barter deal?September 9, 2008 at 11:48 PM in reply to: Will owning a home soon become as common as owning a car? #268746peterb
ParticipantYeah, if you dont mind the house being in Modesto.
Given the huge number of condo’s built in down town SD, perhaps those will get pretty cheap. I’ve heard you can get a place in Temecula for the price of a Hummer. But maybe that’s a barter deal?September 9, 2008 at 11:48 PM in reply to: Will owning a home soon become as common as owning a car? #268777peterb
ParticipantYeah, if you dont mind the house being in Modesto.
Given the huge number of condo’s built in down town SD, perhaps those will get pretty cheap. I’ve heard you can get a place in Temecula for the price of a Hummer. But maybe that’s a barter deal?peterb
ParticipantI see your point.I wasnt clear about supply being flexible as well….as supply shifts to the left,I’m guessing unemployment rises and thus is very strong demand destruction. I think we’re seeing this right now.
If you look at the production capacity created by the Chinese in the last 6 years, it’s through the roof. And they are nearly the lowest cost producer on the planet. But there’s also Eastern Europe’s build-up as well as emerging areas of Asia. I’d say that equals a global level of supply/capacity that’s unequaled in history.
If one believes Roubini’s analysis that a global recession is at hand, then I have trouble seeing how this cannot lower demand in a world of incredible supply. I think this is why I’ve heard Both Jim Rogers and Marc Faber talking about agricultural commodities lately. Lots of people on the planet these days and food is not very discressionary. So perhaps we could see inflation hitting food. Or maybe it already has?
I think from an Austrian point of view, we are in a deflationary cycle or just starting one. But it’s hardly my area of expertise.
peterb
ParticipantI see your point.I wasnt clear about supply being flexible as well….as supply shifts to the left,I’m guessing unemployment rises and thus is very strong demand destruction. I think we’re seeing this right now.
If you look at the production capacity created by the Chinese in the last 6 years, it’s through the roof. And they are nearly the lowest cost producer on the planet. But there’s also Eastern Europe’s build-up as well as emerging areas of Asia. I’d say that equals a global level of supply/capacity that’s unequaled in history.
If one believes Roubini’s analysis that a global recession is at hand, then I have trouble seeing how this cannot lower demand in a world of incredible supply. I think this is why I’ve heard Both Jim Rogers and Marc Faber talking about agricultural commodities lately. Lots of people on the planet these days and food is not very discressionary. So perhaps we could see inflation hitting food. Or maybe it already has?
I think from an Austrian point of view, we are in a deflationary cycle or just starting one. But it’s hardly my area of expertise.
peterb
ParticipantI see your point.I wasnt clear about supply being flexible as well….as supply shifts to the left,I’m guessing unemployment rises and thus is very strong demand destruction. I think we’re seeing this right now.
If you look at the production capacity created by the Chinese in the last 6 years, it’s through the roof. And they are nearly the lowest cost producer on the planet. But there’s also Eastern Europe’s build-up as well as emerging areas of Asia. I’d say that equals a global level of supply/capacity that’s unequaled in history.
If one believes Roubini’s analysis that a global recession is at hand, then I have trouble seeing how this cannot lower demand in a world of incredible supply. I think this is why I’ve heard Both Jim Rogers and Marc Faber talking about agricultural commodities lately. Lots of people on the planet these days and food is not very discressionary. So perhaps we could see inflation hitting food. Or maybe it already has?
I think from an Austrian point of view, we are in a deflationary cycle or just starting one. But it’s hardly my area of expertise.
peterb
ParticipantI see your point.I wasnt clear about supply being flexible as well….as supply shifts to the left,I’m guessing unemployment rises and thus is very strong demand destruction. I think we’re seeing this right now.
If you look at the production capacity created by the Chinese in the last 6 years, it’s through the roof. And they are nearly the lowest cost producer on the planet. But there’s also Eastern Europe’s build-up as well as emerging areas of Asia. I’d say that equals a global level of supply/capacity that’s unequaled in history.
If one believes Roubini’s analysis that a global recession is at hand, then I have trouble seeing how this cannot lower demand in a world of incredible supply. I think this is why I’ve heard Both Jim Rogers and Marc Faber talking about agricultural commodities lately. Lots of people on the planet these days and food is not very discressionary. So perhaps we could see inflation hitting food. Or maybe it already has?
I think from an Austrian point of view, we are in a deflationary cycle or just starting one. But it’s hardly my area of expertise.
peterb
ParticipantI see your point.I wasnt clear about supply being flexible as well….as supply shifts to the left,I’m guessing unemployment rises and thus is very strong demand destruction. I think we’re seeing this right now.
If you look at the production capacity created by the Chinese in the last 6 years, it’s through the roof. And they are nearly the lowest cost producer on the planet. But there’s also Eastern Europe’s build-up as well as emerging areas of Asia. I’d say that equals a global level of supply/capacity that’s unequaled in history.
If one believes Roubini’s analysis that a global recession is at hand, then I have trouble seeing how this cannot lower demand in a world of incredible supply. I think this is why I’ve heard Both Jim Rogers and Marc Faber talking about agricultural commodities lately. Lots of people on the planet these days and food is not very discressionary. So perhaps we could see inflation hitting food. Or maybe it already has?
I think from an Austrian point of view, we are in a deflationary cycle or just starting one. But it’s hardly my area of expertise.
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