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ParticipantZK , I am a tabula rasa believer pretty strongly birth order is strong too. Luck is important. I will say that your post is fair minded. You are thoughtful well above average on these topics.
Yes, I have knee jerk reactions to “it’s just his brain” type comments. I agree his entitlement appears to be an insurmountable problem, or a complete impediment to any psychological change for the better whatever the roots of his dysfunction are. I think over attributing “syndromes” to adjustment and well being of children is a real curse on them and society. What did his parents do about the entitlement? All kids try to be spoiled one way or another. My guess is they related to him primarily through things that support entitlement and didn’t do much of the hard work of parenting and the meltdown was severe.
Definitely had social sexual adjustment problems buried deeper under his conflict with the “hot chicks” rejecting him, I think that was the surface of it , the way he acted it out and wanted to believe it, because his real problems whatever they were, were seriously repressed.
ParticipantI am responding to comments , which should not be construed as wanting to have a professional style debate about mental illness. However, I will answer your question. Mental illness exists, yes. People can also do these kinds of murder rampages or alternatively commit suicide in isolation, without genetic predisposition to mental illness and some possibly have genetic predisposition to a serious degree and be pretty cool, though I don’t know them personally or it hasn’t been revealed.
ParticipantFirst sign of trouble when they enter school, put em on drugs and tell them it’s all their fault, some syndrome, the system will go along with it, …carry on with your expectations for them and perhaps spoil them if you have the money, but don’t worry about anything real, it will all work out and if it doesn’t, it’s all the kids fault.
ParticipantSaw one headline, “Dad Blames Son…Rodgers” Yeah , they do that a lot….nothing but the kids brain….move along now.
ParticipantI joined the military , put myself on medical hold when I was 19 and got a free year of very expert counseling. I didn’t come from a good family so I had to do it all myself.
No one ever told me it was my brain only….my family came up quite a bit. I bet all of our kids families come up quite a bit if they are lucky enough to not to have had mommy and daddy, and the only shrinks mommy and daddy will allow blame it all on their brains for their whole lives.Participant[quote=SK in CV][quote=Blogstar]If the father is the director of hunger games how can anyone rule out fucked up family and low values?[/quote]
He was the AD. Still financially highly successful under most metrics, but not nearly as high profile. And I think I read somewhere AD for 2nd unit. His parents were divorced and he lived with his mother, who didn’t have near the financial means as his father. Maybe if he’d grown up in south central, his brain would have miraculously healed itself.[/quote]
If he had grown up in south central we would be blaming his absentee father, his
welfare mom and his culture…not his brain. But we can’t do that when it is people like us. It is a huge disservice to humanity to blame the only the brain therefore the individual. It’s easier to unravel when you deal with all the causes rather than shut out what we don’t like to see.ParticipantIf the father is the director of hunger games how can anyone rule out fucked up family and low values?
Participant[quote=SK in CV][quote=Blogstar]The statement was the he came from a “good Family” how does anyone know?
If I knew my kids had a really fucked up brain I might not put his spoiled little ass in a BMER and send him off to college where he can suffer and fuck some people up. Denial runs in good families, I guess.[/quote]maybe they should have bought him an old pinto. Or send him to school to become a hair stylist. I wonder if that would have made it all better. No, actually I don’t.[/quote]
I guess you want it all black or white don’t you? Only brain ,no values or family.
What a cop out.ParticipantThe statement was the he came from a “good Family” how does anyone know?
If I knew my kids had a really fucked up brain I might not put his spoiled little ass in a BMER and send him off to college where he can suffer and fuck some people up. Denial runs in good families, I guess.Participant[quote=SK in CV][quote=Blogstar][quote=SK in CV]He didn’t have a screwed up value system. He had a screwed up brain. Perfect parenting wouldn’t have fixed that.[/quote]
Having to have the hottest girls or hate them is a value system. Something I have already taught my boys not to embrace. My boys may be crazy as hell when they grow up but the normal thing won’t be to go kill girls they can’t have .[/quote]
But your boys probably aren’t anywhere near as crazy as this kid was. That’s the point. He was broken. Possibly beyond repair. It wasn’t bad parenting. He didn’t need better parenting. He had a brain that did not function correctly. That may very well have been well beyond the fixes that current mental health care has available.[/quote]
Participant[quote=SK in CV]He didn’t have a screwed up value system. He had a screwed up brain. Perfect parenting wouldn’t have fixed that.[/quote]
Having to have the hottest girls or hate them is a value system. Something I have already taught my boys not to embrace. My boys may be crazy as hell when they grow up but the normal thing won’t be to go kill girls they can’t have .
Screwed up value system is written all over this kid. Good family isn’t necessarily unless you are in bizarro mundo where money equals good family.
ParticipantHow do you know he came from a good family, you are joking again, right?
Who taught him to have such a screwed up value system?Participant[quote=spdrun]Are those FSBOs, pocket listing, or what?[/quote]
How prevalent are, or were, short sales where the seller, or seller and Realtor and buyer picked each other and realtors went and put it together where nobody other than the selected buyer really had a chance? The banks turned a blind eye to these not so arms length transactions? I know it happened but how much?
ParticipantDoes he need a kitchen? How about just a fridge and microwave? Does he want to pretty much be left alone or actively participate in a household, common areas , kitchen etc. Maybe doesn’t matter too much either way?
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