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Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]True, NSR. But medical advancement is creating a health gap.
Dentistry is generally not well covered even with health insurance. Within one race you can look at teeth and determine social status.
Look at the quality and cleanliness of the complexion to determine social status. Look at overall weight and fitness.
And even if physical appearance is no indication of real health, I’m sure that it’s a determinant of psychological health which affects the drive to do better.[/quote]
The real determinant is stress. Lack of adequate financial resources and uncertainty in financial resources are a huge component of that.
You’re mistaking looking at winners and thinking that it’s the fruit of the money when it reality it’s the fruit of the lower stress of winning.
Check the health of any high income, highish networth person when their business has lost it’s edge and their health suffers accordingly.
As for the socialite idle rich, yea, over $5M or $25 M, wining and losing is just an ego thing, it’s like playing monopoly and has no consequences.
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]
Did you notice how goodlooking and healthy the rich are on TV, even in their 70s? Compare to the general population.[/quote]Have you noticed how in person, they’re not?
ParticipantLiving wage is generally defined as an amount needed to cover a 1 bedroom apartment rent with 1/3rd of the gross income. Expenses in area are generally in line with local rents.
Participant[quote=CDMA ENG]
Man… As much as I like to bash unions… Hobie is completely correct. Unions were just the “knob turners” that put the product together. [/quote]Not correct CDMA. I used to work in the auto industry. Those management choices you complain about were in a large part driven by the unions. Not actively, but passively through reticence and inflexibility.
By the 80s, the UAW benefit package cost to the companies exceeded both the competition’s cost and profit margin together, particularly on the low cost point vehicle.
By the 80s, the UAW had job bank and literally, had entire assembly lines of people sitting playing cards at picnic tables watching the automated stamping machines punch out doors. Instead of 40+ people working the line, there were two, one running the crane loading the steel roll in, one running another picking the carts of loaded doors out. And 40 people sitting playing cards, all getting paid.
Sorry, no product choice is going to succeed over that. Management failed, but the failure management had was not forcing the union back to reality before it was too late, they may have failed. I’m not sure how long the union could have held out.
Either way, the companies literally couldn’t build the vehicles you think they should have, their cost structure prevented it and the union pay and benefit package was a big part of that. Stupid design like having 20 fasteners for a bumper versus the competitions 5 just enhanced the problem.
Everybody wants to whine about the big three just building big trucks and SUVs before their demise (Ford excepted), but they did that for a reason, they are the only vehicle they make money on.
You haven’t seen despair until you seen a town whose one main plant has been downsizing for a decade.
ParticipantSD R, that’s because California is young, dumb and single. They’re too stupid to realize either how poor they are or how close to the edge they are.
32% of our population is under 24.
47% is under 34.
50% are currently single
with 1/3rd being never married.Living five to a sh*thole at the beach and partying is the life.
Or they’re just working and haven’t gotten their first kick to the crotch.
ParticipantLA DWP paid $35.5 million in unlimited sick time since 2010
[quote]Los Angeles’ Department of Water and Power has paid thousands of employees a total of $35.5 million since 2010 in extra sick days under an unusual program that the utility’s top executive acknowledges has been vulnerable to abuse.
DWP employees benefit from a 32-year-old policy that allows them to take paid days off well beyond the agency’s 10-day-a-year cap on sick days. Last year, 10% of the department’s roughly 10,000 employees took at least 10 extra days off, the data show. More than 220 took an extra 20 working days off, or about a month, according to a Times examination of data obtained under the California Public Records Act.
In fact, records and interviews show, there is no limit to the paid time off DWP employees can take when they say they’re sick, and requirements to provide medical proof of their illness have been loosely enforced.[/quote]
Luckily the city approved the tax increase to prevent the cut backs…
ParticipantYes, cannot, bad typo on my part. My self-imposed net-nanny time limit for non-productive sites, cut me off.
I view low wages as an external cost like pollution. Saying you need to pay low wages is like saying you must be allowed to pollute in order to compete.
They’ll whine that ALL those jobs will go away, but they won’t. Only some will. So instead of having the 100 people at the poverty wage paying place all dependent on the dole for food stamps and health care, we’d have some of them on the dole and many of the remainder would be working at the place that paid real wages and still made decent stuff that was worth the price paid. We’d all have to do with less disposable stuff.
But that’s me, I don’t think it’s horrible to contemplate a life where we’d actually still have cobblers around because everybody actually resoled and repaired their shoes instead of buying disposable slave labor products.
And heaven forbid if the twinkies or their knock-off made in Mexico in the vending machine at work needs to $2.50 instead of a $1.25 in order to pay the people involved. That’ll do us good too.
ParticipantMaybe CalPERs has cadillac plans, but regular family plans aren’t much different.
On a hourly rate, those CalPERS plans run $9.65/hr.
That’s our real problem. Obviously, minimum wage isn’t going to cut it. That’s the hard truth we need to address. $25/hr isn’t going to cut it. Not just in Detroit, everywhere.
Anything less is in reality, a starvation diet. People need sustainable wages. Jobs that can be done profitably with a sustainable wage need to go away.
The sooner we get there the better.
ParticipantPretty even split on Repubs and Dems too.
And doubly sadly, 12 clowns abstained.
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2013/roll412.xml
My clown abstained. Nasty gram time, here I come.
Participant[quote=squat300]
In 1993 my constit. Law final was on the issue of a hypothetical slavery reparations law.I got a very high grade. 2d highest in lg class.[/quote]
Whoopie do, you said what the Prof wanted to hear.
ParticipantWhat killed the American auto-industry was really simple.
The relationship between labor and the company was pure poison.
Add in greed, cynicism, incompetence and an f-u attitude or as long as I get mine and you know why it died. Those attitudes ran both sides up and down the whole range.
There’s a fundamental problem when plant workers say they work for the UAW and not Ford, GM or Chrysler, or even the individual sub-brand and management is worried about their private jet.
Participant[quote=SK in CV][quote=CA renter]+1, spdrun[/quote]
+2[/quote]
+3, now excuse me while I look outside to make sure no brimstone is raining.
Participant[quote=squat300]
[quote=Blogstar]Scaredy, when did Zimmerman corner Trayvon and start screaming at him for explanations? Who was a witness to that? Where was it recorded. It wasn’t and it isn’t even a likely scenario. It’s not a comparison at all.[/quote]Ok then. Just a black male adult coming up into the face if a white teen. White teen justified in feeling threatened in a bad drug infested neighborhood when questioned what he’s doing here?[/quote]
Should the white teen be alert? Yes.
Should the white teen be concerned this could turn out really badly? Yes.
Should the white teen feel endanger for his life? No. Not yet.
Should the white teen strike first and start an assault? No.
Standing your ground means you don’t need to run away from trouble, it also doesn’t give you carte blanche to strike first.
Someone figuratively getting in your face and asking what you’re doing ISN’T justification to go to force.
I thought he MIGHT hit me and he was on top and hitting me are two very different things.
Participant[quote]
WASHINGTON (AP) — In a heated confrontation over domestic spying, members of Congress said Wednesday they never intended to allow the National Security Agency to build a database of every phone call in America. And they threatened to curtail the government’s surveillance authority.Top Obama administration officials countered that the once-secret program was legal and necessary to keep America safe. And they left open the possibility that they could build similar databases of people’s credit card transactions, hotel records and Internet searches
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[/quote]Mindless posturing by Congress that won’t do anything.
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