OT: Patriotic Traitor (more of the latter)

[KIBU]

http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/19/opinion/hayden-snowden-impact/index.html?hpt=hp_t4

The consequences of this one will be much more harmful than even the wikileaks to America. It will greatly aid American’s competitors and enemies.

[all]

Says a Chertoff Group Mercenary General.

[spdrun]

Hayden is dead fucking wrong about Snowden on two counts:
(1) if he reduced the ability of American cloud companies to compete because he revealed that their users’ data aren’t safe from US gov’t intrusion, in contravention of local laws, then he did customers across the world a great service. Competing on false pretenses is unacceptable. And frankly, if fewer people and businesses put their data in the cloud without thinking about the implications of it, it will be a win for the cause of privacy.

If you want it to be private, it should stay local and internal is the lesson. Whether the data stays local or goes in the cloud, American companies will design solutions to store and manage it — different companies may be involved, but either way, America will do fine.

(2) so what if he reduced the confidence of the world in the ability of the US to keep such secrets? The programs are of questionable legality and should be subject to public oversight by public courts. Perhaps showing the world that the US still has people who have the testicular fortitude to stand up for freedom isn’t such a bad thing.

[CA renter]

+1, spdrun

[SK in CV]

[quote=CA renter]+1, spdrun[/quote]

+2

[mike92104]

I could give a flying F*%$ about the consequences. I see Snowden as a patriot. None of the other traitors were trying to inform us that our government had begun to spy on it’s own citizens.

[KIBU]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obamas-moscow-visit-to-meet-putin-is-in-limbo-because-of-snowden-standoff/2013/07/18/20f5f452-efe2-11e2-9008-61e94a7ea20d_story.html

Obama’s Moscow visit to meet Putin is in limbo because of Snowden standoff

President Obama’s scheduled trip to Moscow to meet with Russian President Vladi­mir Putin in September is in limbo because of uncertainty surrounding National Security Agency leaker Edward Snowden, who fled to Russia and is seeking asylum there.

In addition to the Snowden case, relations between the United States and Russia have become strained in recent weeks over the ongoing conflict in Syria, disputes over nuclear weapons and concerns about the Putin government’s treatment of dissidents.

[spdrun]

^^^

Don’t blame Snowden. One side or the other could always find a convenient reason to play games and call off the visit.

[no_such_reality]

[quote=SK in CV][quote=CA renter]+1, spdrun[/quote]

+2[/quote]

+3, now excuse me while I look outside to make sure no brimstone is raining.

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