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lostkitty
ParticipantPerry- well said: “Could it be that the right is feeling a little demoralized these days?”
Anyone who voted for Bush (either time, but especially the second, has got to be feeling like a poo-poo head loser). Everything the opposition warned about has come to fruition. The information was all there. Nothing “new” or unexpected has happened.
Politics is absolutely linked to RE. The mood of the people is an important barometer… as is their optimism or pessimism.
Scott Ritter was right…
ParticipantPerry- well said: “Could it be that the right is feeling a little demoralized these days?”
Anyone who voted for Bush (either time, but especially the second, has got to be feeling like a poo-poo head loser). Everything the opposition warned about has come to fruition. The information was all there. Nothing “new” or unexpected has happened.
Politics is absolutely linked to RE. The mood of the people is an important barometer… as is their optimism or pessimism.
Scott Ritter was right…
ParticipantI enjoyed the Turning Point more than Blink.
Just finished Blink recently, and found it to be a chapter or two of “wow!, that’s interesting.” and then a lot of the same thereafter. But i did like the discussion of the Navy war-games and the different approaches the two sides took.
The basic message, “Trust your instincts.”
One later chapter that captured my interest was the one on prejudice (skin color/xenophobia). It’s the one instance where instincts will lead you astray. I liked that he offered a way to combat those ‘wrong’ instincts. It was so simple… bombard yourself with positive messages about whatever group you are prejudiced against.
Okay, now that i write all this… I guess I liked more of the book than I remembered at first.
ParticipantI enjoyed the Turning Point more than Blink.
Just finished Blink recently, and found it to be a chapter or two of “wow!, that’s interesting.” and then a lot of the same thereafter. But i did like the discussion of the Navy war-games and the different approaches the two sides took.
The basic message, “Trust your instincts.”
One later chapter that captured my interest was the one on prejudice (skin color/xenophobia). It’s the one instance where instincts will lead you astray. I liked that he offered a way to combat those ‘wrong’ instincts. It was so simple… bombard yourself with positive messages about whatever group you are prejudiced against.
Okay, now that i write all this… I guess I liked more of the book than I remembered at first.
Participantnsr-
What about the firemen, the roads, etc.? Do you think everything should be privitized?
If you do not believe universal healthcare is necessary, then do you therefore believe everything is fine the way it is right now?
I welcome debate on the topic. I just want things to be different, better. I dont want to hear another story of one of my parents or in-laws friends becoming bogged down with debt while fighting unexpected illness, injury. It isnt right.
I like everything I hear coming out of Ron Paul’s mouth, except his stance on healthcare. And that alone is enough to send my vote elsewhere.
Participantnsr-
What about the firemen, the roads, etc.? Do you think everything should be privitized?
If you do not believe universal healthcare is necessary, then do you therefore believe everything is fine the way it is right now?
I welcome debate on the topic. I just want things to be different, better. I dont want to hear another story of one of my parents or in-laws friends becoming bogged down with debt while fighting unexpected illness, injury. It isnt right.
I like everything I hear coming out of Ron Paul’s mouth, except his stance on healthcare. And that alone is enough to send my vote elsewhere.
Participantjg-
There you go again…. In your world, it is all about “me”, never “we”. Using your logic, the goverment is a total waste. Why should you pay for firemen you dont use, police you dont need, why pay to have roads paved when you only use a few of them?
Me me me me… that is all I hear from you.Participantjg-
There you go again…. In your world, it is all about “me”, never “we”. Using your logic, the goverment is a total waste. Why should you pay for firemen you dont use, police you dont need, why pay to have roads paved when you only use a few of them?
Me me me me… that is all I hear from you.ParticipantIt is my belief that the biggest problem with American health care is that so much money is spent on treating symptoms, but so little is spent on treating causes. This subject was touched on in the movie "Supersize me". Nutrition is such a huge part of good health, and so few doctors push this agenda, all they do is prescribe pills to address the symptoms caused by poor nutrition.
They actually address this topic in the movie. they are talking to a doct in England who tells how he is given "incentive pay" for…. (drum roll) … getting the most people to quit smoking, exercise, eat better, cholesterol levels down… etc. He's sporting a wicked awesome Audi ride as a result.
ParticipantIt is my belief that the biggest problem with American health care is that so much money is spent on treating symptoms, but so little is spent on treating causes. This subject was touched on in the movie "Supersize me". Nutrition is such a huge part of good health, and so few doctors push this agenda, all they do is prescribe pills to address the symptoms caused by poor nutrition.
They actually address this topic in the movie. they are talking to a doct in England who tells how he is given "incentive pay" for…. (drum roll) … getting the most people to quit smoking, exercise, eat better, cholesterol levels down… etc. He's sporting a wicked awesome Audi ride as a result.
Participantno_such_reality
you wrote:
“That’s what you need to realize about MM, his work is fiction. It may be factual sources, but it woven together out of context with the exception implied as the norm to create a work of propaganda to further his political view.”So which of his movies have you seen?
Participantno_such_reality
you wrote:
“That’s what you need to realize about MM, his work is fiction. It may be factual sources, but it woven together out of context with the exception implied as the norm to create a work of propaganda to further his political view.”So which of his movies have you seen?
ParticipantTurned out the movie was showing semi-nearby.
Saw it yesterday, and I am still so saddened by it. Heartbroken really, that our contry has become what it has.
Everyone should see it – regardless of party affiliation. Don’t be afraid to face the ideas you hold dearly. If your ideas are solid, then you’ll leave feeling the same as when you went in the theater. Or you may see things suddenly from a different perspective… who knows. There is always room to grow and change with new information. Please see it. It is about the most basic of needs a country should provide for it’s citizens – healthcare – so the people can work.My kids have had some health issues themselves, and at the same time that my husband’s job (Delta Airlines) was deeply cutting pilot pay, they were also continually changing the health benefits and insurance companies. New cards every year from a new company… We were increasingly drowning in co-pays, medicine costs, but what is one to do when your child has pneumonia, a broken arm, a head injury? The insurance company tried their damndest to find a way to not pay that broken arm bill. Where exactly did it happen, could it have been prevented, was in on the property of someone they could go after instead? The questions we had to answer, and then answer again!!! The financial relief when he dumped that Delta job and went to a small company was tremendous just in healthcare alone.
The stories of people who worked hard their whole lives, only to be buried by healthcare debt are compelling in this movie… Good hard-working people, not the bottom-dwellers of society.
A note for jg… if you see it, which I please please please hope you do, look closely at which people have bad teeth… It is all the Americans that have the nasty teeth and fat asses! It is the Americans who are waiting at the hospitals for hours. it is the Americans who are angry and frustrated, stressed to the max. It is the Americans who are in despair over their lack of medical care.
MM interviews conservatives from other countries who while fiscally conservative, absolutely believe that healthcare is independent of the market economy … it is essential.
We now have excellent coverage. can go anywhere we like without referrals, etc. STILL, I am endlessly having to call up the insurance company because they are all f’d up. They all are… the errors in billing are a constant. They must be corrected to protect our credit, and it is many times a year that i end up on the phone setting things straight.
See it, so we can have an intelligent discussion here. Just saying “I wont see it because MM is fat” is a pathetic excuse for an apathetic citizen. I personally love America, and I want better for all of us, not just for ME.
ParticipantTurned out the movie was showing semi-nearby.
Saw it yesterday, and I am still so saddened by it. Heartbroken really, that our contry has become what it has.
Everyone should see it – regardless of party affiliation. Don’t be afraid to face the ideas you hold dearly. If your ideas are solid, then you’ll leave feeling the same as when you went in the theater. Or you may see things suddenly from a different perspective… who knows. There is always room to grow and change with new information. Please see it. It is about the most basic of needs a country should provide for it’s citizens – healthcare – so the people can work.My kids have had some health issues themselves, and at the same time that my husband’s job (Delta Airlines) was deeply cutting pilot pay, they were also continually changing the health benefits and insurance companies. New cards every year from a new company… We were increasingly drowning in co-pays, medicine costs, but what is one to do when your child has pneumonia, a broken arm, a head injury? The insurance company tried their damndest to find a way to not pay that broken arm bill. Where exactly did it happen, could it have been prevented, was in on the property of someone they could go after instead? The questions we had to answer, and then answer again!!! The financial relief when he dumped that Delta job and went to a small company was tremendous just in healthcare alone.
The stories of people who worked hard their whole lives, only to be buried by healthcare debt are compelling in this movie… Good hard-working people, not the bottom-dwellers of society.
A note for jg… if you see it, which I please please please hope you do, look closely at which people have bad teeth… It is all the Americans that have the nasty teeth and fat asses! It is the Americans who are waiting at the hospitals for hours. it is the Americans who are angry and frustrated, stressed to the max. It is the Americans who are in despair over their lack of medical care.
MM interviews conservatives from other countries who while fiscally conservative, absolutely believe that healthcare is independent of the market economy … it is essential.
We now have excellent coverage. can go anywhere we like without referrals, etc. STILL, I am endlessly having to call up the insurance company because they are all f’d up. They all are… the errors in billing are a constant. They must be corrected to protect our credit, and it is many times a year that i end up on the phone setting things straight.
See it, so we can have an intelligent discussion here. Just saying “I wont see it because MM is fat” is a pathetic excuse for an apathetic citizen. I personally love America, and I want better for all of us, not just for ME.
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