[KSMountain]

[quote=jpinpb]I had seen a situation that was interesting.

Three people at a restaurant waiting for a table outside. The average wait was like 20/30 minutes. A couple sitting at a table for four were waiting for their check. Three people next on the list were anxious to be seated. The couple paid their check and continued to sit at the table and chat. Something like 10 minutes go by and another couple walk by the restaurant and see the couple sitting down. They all know each other. The couple that paid their check invites the couple passing by to sit down at their table. Then a few minutes later, the couple that paid their bill then leave and the couple that had been walking by are still sitting at the table and place their food order.

The three people waiting for the table are pissed.[/quote]
That one is way worse than the original scenario, imo.

[KSMountain]

[quote=jpinpb]I had seen a situation that was interesting.

Three people at a restaurant waiting for a table outside. The average wait was like 20/30 minutes. A couple sitting at a table for four were waiting for their check. Three people next on the list were anxious to be seated. The couple paid their check and continued to sit at the table and chat. Something like 10 minutes go by and another couple walk by the restaurant and see the couple sitting down. They all know each other. The couple that paid their check invites the couple passing by to sit down at their table. Then a few minutes later, the couple that paid their bill then leave and the couple that had been walking by are still sitting at the table and place their food order.

The three people waiting for the table are pissed.[/quote]
That one is way worse than the original scenario, imo.

[KSMountain]

Agree with this, as long as you’re in a place where ATM’s are available.

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Agree with this, as long as you’re in a place where ATM’s are available.

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Agree with this, as long as you’re in a place where ATM’s are available.

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Agree with this, as long as you’re in a place where ATM’s are available.

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Agree with this, as long as you’re in a place where ATM’s are available.

[KSMountain]

[quote=briansd1]The legislation is more than budget neutral. It saves money. Granted, the CBO numbers are only estimates. But what else do you want?[/quote]
Well, let’s check back in 10 years and see who was right. Or, barring that, let’s try to remember this discussion. If I’m wrong, 10 years from now (March 25, 2020) I’ll hoist a drink in your honor. In front of all my friends, with my obscenely overpriced chardonnay in one hand, I’ll say “briansd1 was right!”.

[KSMountain]

[quote=briansd1]The legislation is more than budget neutral. It saves money. Granted, the CBO numbers are only estimates. But what else do you want?[/quote]
Well, let’s check back in 10 years and see who was right. Or, barring that, let’s try to remember this discussion. If I’m wrong, 10 years from now (March 25, 2020) I’ll hoist a drink in your honor. In front of all my friends, with my obscenely overpriced chardonnay in one hand, I’ll say “briansd1 was right!”.

[KSMountain]

[quote=briansd1]The legislation is more than budget neutral. It saves money. Granted, the CBO numbers are only estimates. But what else do you want?[/quote]
Well, let’s check back in 10 years and see who was right. Or, barring that, let’s try to remember this discussion. If I’m wrong, 10 years from now (March 25, 2020) I’ll hoist a drink in your honor. In front of all my friends, with my obscenely overpriced chardonnay in one hand, I’ll say “briansd1 was right!”.

[KSMountain]

[quote=briansd1]The legislation is more than budget neutral. It saves money. Granted, the CBO numbers are only estimates. But what else do you want?[/quote]
Well, let’s check back in 10 years and see who was right. Or, barring that, let’s try to remember this discussion. If I’m wrong, 10 years from now (March 25, 2020) I’ll hoist a drink in your honor. In front of all my friends, with my obscenely overpriced chardonnay in one hand, I’ll say “briansd1 was right!”.

[KSMountain]

[quote=briansd1]The legislation is more than budget neutral. It saves money. Granted, the CBO numbers are only estimates. But what else do you want?[/quote]
Well, let’s check back in 10 years and see who was right. Or, barring that, let’s try to remember this discussion. If I’m wrong, 10 years from now (March 25, 2020) I’ll hoist a drink in your honor. In front of all my friends, with my obscenely overpriced chardonnay in one hand, I’ll say “briansd1 was right!”.

[KSMountain]

[quote=briansd1]Medicare and Social Security are existing programs. They have nothing to do with providing health care to all Americans.[/quote]
Pelosi et. al. have been calling them pillars analogous to what was just passed. As pillars, they leave a bit to be desired.

[quote=briansd1]
Who says a fast-food worker should have the same benefits as a business executive?

In America, there should be a minimum standard of health care for all. Minimum doesn’t mean the very best.

The rich executive is free to buy insurance or pay out of pocket for health care service at the Ritz Carlton if he wishes. Nobody is stopping him.

If the executive’s employer is giving him this very best health care as compensation, that compensation should be taxed.[/quote]

Well ok, sounds like we kind of agree on that.

Though I will say, the *tone* of the debate has been more towards homogenizing the benefits. Limiting what people make in salary/benefits. Demonizing folks that have been successful.

Imagine that the rich-haters fully got their way. Imagine a society where everyone made exactly the same income. Why would anyone try hard at work? Why even go to college? How much innovation would there be?

I’ve seen first hand where union folks actually *squashed* hard work, extra work, fast work. I don’t even *know* how they’d feel about creativity but literally based on what I saw, I don’t think they’d encourage it.

I really think you should consider the long term implications of actually getting what you think you want Brian.

[KSMountain]

[quote=briansd1]Medicare and Social Security are existing programs. They have nothing to do with providing health care to all Americans.[/quote]
Pelosi et. al. have been calling them pillars analogous to what was just passed. As pillars, they leave a bit to be desired.

[quote=briansd1]
Who says a fast-food worker should have the same benefits as a business executive?

In America, there should be a minimum standard of health care for all. Minimum doesn’t mean the very best.

The rich executive is free to buy insurance or pay out of pocket for health care service at the Ritz Carlton if he wishes. Nobody is stopping him.

If the executive’s employer is giving him this very best health care as compensation, that compensation should be taxed.[/quote]

Well ok, sounds like we kind of agree on that.

Though I will say, the *tone* of the debate has been more towards homogenizing the benefits. Limiting what people make in salary/benefits. Demonizing folks that have been successful.

Imagine that the rich-haters fully got their way. Imagine a society where everyone made exactly the same income. Why would anyone try hard at work? Why even go to college? How much innovation would there be?

I’ve seen first hand where union folks actually *squashed* hard work, extra work, fast work. I don’t even *know* how they’d feel about creativity but literally based on what I saw, I don’t think they’d encourage it.

I really think you should consider the long term implications of actually getting what you think you want Brian.

[KSMountain]

[quote=briansd1]Medicare and Social Security are existing programs. They have nothing to do with providing health care to all Americans.[/quote]
Pelosi et. al. have been calling them pillars analogous to what was just passed. As pillars, they leave a bit to be desired.

[quote=briansd1]
Who says a fast-food worker should have the same benefits as a business executive?

In America, there should be a minimum standard of health care for all. Minimum doesn’t mean the very best.

The rich executive is free to buy insurance or pay out of pocket for health care service at the Ritz Carlton if he wishes. Nobody is stopping him.

If the executive’s employer is giving him this very best health care as compensation, that compensation should be taxed.[/quote]

Well ok, sounds like we kind of agree on that.

Though I will say, the *tone* of the debate has been more towards homogenizing the benefits. Limiting what people make in salary/benefits. Demonizing folks that have been successful.

Imagine that the rich-haters fully got their way. Imagine a society where everyone made exactly the same income. Why would anyone try hard at work? Why even go to college? How much innovation would there be?

I’ve seen first hand where union folks actually *squashed* hard work, extra work, fast work. I don’t even *know* how they’d feel about creativity but literally based on what I saw, I don’t think they’d encourage it.

I really think you should consider the long term implications of actually getting what you think you want Brian.

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