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ParticipantI agree with you that they should not have tenure and should have a 401k plan like most of us.
AN, are you in Engineering or have friends in Engineering? May be you are your friends work in a few selected fields like network (IT), database, or petroleum engineering where the pay are much higher than the average Engineering pay. Companies like Qualcom or Boeing may pay that much but the average Engineers don’t work for those companies. I believe the average pay is closer to 90-95k for a non manager Engineer with 10 yrs of experience.
[quote=AN]10 years experienced teacher should be making around $120k. Just like a 10 years experienced Engineer with a Master degree. But at the same time, such teacher shouldn’t have pension or tenure either, just like a comparable Engineer.[/quote]
ParticipantI agree with you that they should not have tenure and should have a 401k plan like most of us.
AN, are you in Engineering or have friends in Engineering? May be you are your friends work in a few selected fields like network (IT), database, or petroleum engineering where the pay are much higher than the average Engineering pay. Companies like Qualcom or Boeing may pay that much but the average Engineers don’t work for those companies. I believe the average pay is closer to 90-95k for a non manager Engineer with 10 yrs of experience.
[quote=AN]10 years experienced teacher should be making around $120k. Just like a 10 years experienced Engineer with a Master degree. But at the same time, such teacher shouldn’t have pension or tenure either, just like a comparable Engineer.[/quote]
ParticipantThe ‘average’ teacher salary is very misleading. This include part-time teachers, special ed tutors, and substitute teachers. In OC the average teacher salary is $78K, with teachers in Laguna Beach Unified in 2009-10 earned the highest average salary of $93,120. I am not sure if this include only full-time teachers or also part-time teachers.
My friend is a math teacher in Fountain Valley and with 10 yrs of experience he is making more than $80K which is comparable to Engineers with similar experience but they have a lot more vacation and plus a pension. From the article, they had 180 instruction days last year.
[quote=ucodegen][quote=Fearful]What do you expect from CNN. “Linear equations”? “Matrix calculus”? I did my undergrad in physics, and I have to say I could not explain to someone what a linear equation is and how it is different from a non linear equation. Matrix calculus? I suppose I probably would know it if I saw it, but the name does not ring a bell.[/quote]
How about Linear Algebra and Vector Calculus.. they do exist. I can Xerox the cover of some text books. I suspect that the CNN writers decided to exaggerate the field to make the teacher look more ‘special’. I also suspect that the salaries were listed as below the actual. Something is definitely screwy in the article.http://www.fldoe.org/eias/eiaspubs/pdf/tchsal10.pdf
http://teacherportal.com/salary/Florida-teacher-salaryI noted a good percentage of Masters degrees, but there was no correlation between salaries and what field of study that the Masters was done in, nor what field they were teaching.
NOTE: Starting salary is listed as $33K, Average salary is $46K.[quote=Fearful]It’s “Caltech”, by the way.[/quote]
Unless he is talking about this group: http://www.caltech.com/Pages/Default.aspxThe mis-capitalization is understandable considering that Caltech stands for “California Institute of Technology”.. which incidentally includes JPL.(http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/)[/quote]
ParticipantThe ‘average’ teacher salary is very misleading. This include part-time teachers, special ed tutors, and substitute teachers. In OC the average teacher salary is $78K, with teachers in Laguna Beach Unified in 2009-10 earned the highest average salary of $93,120. I am not sure if this include only full-time teachers or also part-time teachers.
My friend is a math teacher in Fountain Valley and with 10 yrs of experience he is making more than $80K which is comparable to Engineers with similar experience but they have a lot more vacation and plus a pension. From the article, they had 180 instruction days last year.
[quote=ucodegen][quote=Fearful]What do you expect from CNN. “Linear equations”? “Matrix calculus”? I did my undergrad in physics, and I have to say I could not explain to someone what a linear equation is and how it is different from a non linear equation. Matrix calculus? I suppose I probably would know it if I saw it, but the name does not ring a bell.[/quote]
How about Linear Algebra and Vector Calculus.. they do exist. I can Xerox the cover of some text books. I suspect that the CNN writers decided to exaggerate the field to make the teacher look more ‘special’. I also suspect that the salaries were listed as below the actual. Something is definitely screwy in the article.http://www.fldoe.org/eias/eiaspubs/pdf/tchsal10.pdf
http://teacherportal.com/salary/Florida-teacher-salaryI noted a good percentage of Masters degrees, but there was no correlation between salaries and what field of study that the Masters was done in, nor what field they were teaching.
NOTE: Starting salary is listed as $33K, Average salary is $46K.[quote=Fearful]It’s “Caltech”, by the way.[/quote]
Unless he is talking about this group: http://www.caltech.com/Pages/Default.aspxThe mis-capitalization is understandable considering that Caltech stands for “California Institute of Technology”.. which incidentally includes JPL.(http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/)[/quote]
ParticipantThe ‘average’ teacher salary is very misleading. This include part-time teachers, special ed tutors, and substitute teachers. In OC the average teacher salary is $78K, with teachers in Laguna Beach Unified in 2009-10 earned the highest average salary of $93,120. I am not sure if this include only full-time teachers or also part-time teachers.
My friend is a math teacher in Fountain Valley and with 10 yrs of experience he is making more than $80K which is comparable to Engineers with similar experience but they have a lot more vacation and plus a pension. From the article, they had 180 instruction days last year.
[quote=ucodegen][quote=Fearful]What do you expect from CNN. “Linear equations”? “Matrix calculus”? I did my undergrad in physics, and I have to say I could not explain to someone what a linear equation is and how it is different from a non linear equation. Matrix calculus? I suppose I probably would know it if I saw it, but the name does not ring a bell.[/quote]
How about Linear Algebra and Vector Calculus.. they do exist. I can Xerox the cover of some text books. I suspect that the CNN writers decided to exaggerate the field to make the teacher look more ‘special’. I also suspect that the salaries were listed as below the actual. Something is definitely screwy in the article.http://www.fldoe.org/eias/eiaspubs/pdf/tchsal10.pdf
http://teacherportal.com/salary/Florida-teacher-salaryI noted a good percentage of Masters degrees, but there was no correlation between salaries and what field of study that the Masters was done in, nor what field they were teaching.
NOTE: Starting salary is listed as $33K, Average salary is $46K.[quote=Fearful]It’s “Caltech”, by the way.[/quote]
Unless he is talking about this group: http://www.caltech.com/Pages/Default.aspxThe mis-capitalization is understandable considering that Caltech stands for “California Institute of Technology”.. which incidentally includes JPL.(http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/)[/quote]
ParticipantThe ‘average’ teacher salary is very misleading. This include part-time teachers, special ed tutors, and substitute teachers. In OC the average teacher salary is $78K, with teachers in Laguna Beach Unified in 2009-10 earned the highest average salary of $93,120. I am not sure if this include only full-time teachers or also part-time teachers.
My friend is a math teacher in Fountain Valley and with 10 yrs of experience he is making more than $80K which is comparable to Engineers with similar experience but they have a lot more vacation and plus a pension. From the article, they had 180 instruction days last year.
[quote=ucodegen][quote=Fearful]What do you expect from CNN. “Linear equations”? “Matrix calculus”? I did my undergrad in physics, and I have to say I could not explain to someone what a linear equation is and how it is different from a non linear equation. Matrix calculus? I suppose I probably would know it if I saw it, but the name does not ring a bell.[/quote]
How about Linear Algebra and Vector Calculus.. they do exist. I can Xerox the cover of some text books. I suspect that the CNN writers decided to exaggerate the field to make the teacher look more ‘special’. I also suspect that the salaries were listed as below the actual. Something is definitely screwy in the article.http://www.fldoe.org/eias/eiaspubs/pdf/tchsal10.pdf
http://teacherportal.com/salary/Florida-teacher-salaryI noted a good percentage of Masters degrees, but there was no correlation between salaries and what field of study that the Masters was done in, nor what field they were teaching.
NOTE: Starting salary is listed as $33K, Average salary is $46K.[quote=Fearful]It’s “Caltech”, by the way.[/quote]
Unless he is talking about this group: http://www.caltech.com/Pages/Default.aspxThe mis-capitalization is understandable considering that Caltech stands for “California Institute of Technology”.. which incidentally includes JPL.(http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/)[/quote]
ParticipantThe ‘average’ teacher salary is very misleading. This include part-time teachers, special ed tutors, and substitute teachers. In OC the average teacher salary is $78K, with teachers in Laguna Beach Unified in 2009-10 earned the highest average salary of $93,120. I am not sure if this include only full-time teachers or also part-time teachers.
My friend is a math teacher in Fountain Valley and with 10 yrs of experience he is making more than $80K which is comparable to Engineers with similar experience but they have a lot more vacation and plus a pension. From the article, they had 180 instruction days last year.
[quote=ucodegen][quote=Fearful]What do you expect from CNN. “Linear equations”? “Matrix calculus”? I did my undergrad in physics, and I have to say I could not explain to someone what a linear equation is and how it is different from a non linear equation. Matrix calculus? I suppose I probably would know it if I saw it, but the name does not ring a bell.[/quote]
How about Linear Algebra and Vector Calculus.. they do exist. I can Xerox the cover of some text books. I suspect that the CNN writers decided to exaggerate the field to make the teacher look more ‘special’. I also suspect that the salaries were listed as below the actual. Something is definitely screwy in the article.http://www.fldoe.org/eias/eiaspubs/pdf/tchsal10.pdf
http://teacherportal.com/salary/Florida-teacher-salaryI noted a good percentage of Masters degrees, but there was no correlation between salaries and what field of study that the Masters was done in, nor what field they were teaching.
NOTE: Starting salary is listed as $33K, Average salary is $46K.[quote=Fearful]It’s “Caltech”, by the way.[/quote]
Unless he is talking about this group: http://www.caltech.com/Pages/Default.aspxThe mis-capitalization is understandable considering that Caltech stands for “California Institute of Technology”.. which incidentally includes JPL.(http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/)[/quote]
ParticipantThis guy calls himself a Knight Templar which refernces to the crusade and to get rid of Muslims. If you don’t call him a Christian Terrorists how can you call Muslim Extremists “Terrorists”?
ParticipantThis guy calls himself a Knight Templar which refernces to the crusade and to get rid of Muslims. If you don’t call him a Christian Terrorists how can you call Muslim Extremists “Terrorists”?
ParticipantThis guy calls himself a Knight Templar which refernces to the crusade and to get rid of Muslims. If you don’t call him a Christian Terrorists how can you call Muslim Extremists “Terrorists”?
ParticipantThis guy calls himself a Knight Templar which refernces to the crusade and to get rid of Muslims. If you don’t call him a Christian Terrorists how can you call Muslim Extremists “Terrorists”?
ParticipantThis guy calls himself a Knight Templar which refernces to the crusade and to get rid of Muslims. If you don’t call him a Christian Terrorists how can you call Muslim Extremists “Terrorists”?
ParticipantI and my nephew will start at around 11 AM today. It seems to be cool enough to hike at mid day today. We will start from Sorrento Valley Blvd and hike to Black Mountain. My wife will pick us up from there. I don’t want to hike 12 miles the first time. Thanks everyone for your helpful information.
ParticipantI and my nephew will start at around 11 AM today. It seems to be cool enough to hike at mid day today. We will start from Sorrento Valley Blvd and hike to Black Mountain. My wife will pick us up from there. I don’t want to hike 12 miles the first time. Thanks everyone for your helpful information.
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