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July 25, 2011 at 7:46 PM #18970July 25, 2011 at 8:42 PM #712739
KSMountain
ParticipantAll right-wingers? So like, Bob Dole was inspirational to him?
July 25, 2011 at 8:42 PM #712833ParticipantAll right-wingers? So like, Bob Dole was inspirational to him?
July 25, 2011 at 8:42 PM #713431ParticipantAll right-wingers? So like, Bob Dole was inspirational to him?
July 25, 2011 at 8:42 PM #713585ParticipantAll right-wingers? So like, Bob Dole was inspirational to him?
July 25, 2011 at 8:42 PM #713941ParticipantAll right-wingers? So like, Bob Dole was inspirational to him?
July 25, 2011 at 9:27 PM #712775njtosd
ParticipantJust for the record, I don’t think I would go so far as to call this “Christian terrorism.” In fact, I don’t believe there can be any such thing, as the tenets of Christianity (I’m Roman Catholic, for the record) are diametrically opposed to terrorism. Take a look at the Sermon on the Mount (blessed are the meek for they shall inherit the earth, etc.) – considered by Christians to be almost on a par with the Ten Commandments. Something about Muslim immigration got this guy going, but that doesn’t make him a “Christian terrorist.”
Also, the fact that one crazy person found inspiration in the ramblings of another crazy person (the Unabomber) is not surprising, any more than the fact that there are crazy Americans that idolize Hitler (for reasons that I’ll never understand).
The only thing this all proves is that crazy people can do horrible things. Period.
July 25, 2011 at 9:27 PM #712868ParticipantJust for the record, I don’t think I would go so far as to call this “Christian terrorism.” In fact, I don’t believe there can be any such thing, as the tenets of Christianity (I’m Roman Catholic, for the record) are diametrically opposed to terrorism. Take a look at the Sermon on the Mount (blessed are the meek for they shall inherit the earth, etc.) – considered by Christians to be almost on a par with the Ten Commandments. Something about Muslim immigration got this guy going, but that doesn’t make him a “Christian terrorist.”
Also, the fact that one crazy person found inspiration in the ramblings of another crazy person (the Unabomber) is not surprising, any more than the fact that there are crazy Americans that idolize Hitler (for reasons that I’ll never understand).
The only thing this all proves is that crazy people can do horrible things. Period.
July 25, 2011 at 9:27 PM #713466ParticipantJust for the record, I don’t think I would go so far as to call this “Christian terrorism.” In fact, I don’t believe there can be any such thing, as the tenets of Christianity (I’m Roman Catholic, for the record) are diametrically opposed to terrorism. Take a look at the Sermon on the Mount (blessed are the meek for they shall inherit the earth, etc.) – considered by Christians to be almost on a par with the Ten Commandments. Something about Muslim immigration got this guy going, but that doesn’t make him a “Christian terrorist.”
Also, the fact that one crazy person found inspiration in the ramblings of another crazy person (the Unabomber) is not surprising, any more than the fact that there are crazy Americans that idolize Hitler (for reasons that I’ll never understand).
The only thing this all proves is that crazy people can do horrible things. Period.
July 25, 2011 at 9:27 PM #713619ParticipantJust for the record, I don’t think I would go so far as to call this “Christian terrorism.” In fact, I don’t believe there can be any such thing, as the tenets of Christianity (I’m Roman Catholic, for the record) are diametrically opposed to terrorism. Take a look at the Sermon on the Mount (blessed are the meek for they shall inherit the earth, etc.) – considered by Christians to be almost on a par with the Ten Commandments. Something about Muslim immigration got this guy going, but that doesn’t make him a “Christian terrorist.”
Also, the fact that one crazy person found inspiration in the ramblings of another crazy person (the Unabomber) is not surprising, any more than the fact that there are crazy Americans that idolize Hitler (for reasons that I’ll never understand).
The only thing this all proves is that crazy people can do horrible things. Period.
July 25, 2011 at 9:27 PM #713976ParticipantJust for the record, I don’t think I would go so far as to call this “Christian terrorism.” In fact, I don’t believe there can be any such thing, as the tenets of Christianity (I’m Roman Catholic, for the record) are diametrically opposed to terrorism. Take a look at the Sermon on the Mount (blessed are the meek for they shall inherit the earth, etc.) – considered by Christians to be almost on a par with the Ten Commandments. Something about Muslim immigration got this guy going, but that doesn’t make him a “Christian terrorist.”
Also, the fact that one crazy person found inspiration in the ramblings of another crazy person (the Unabomber) is not surprising, any more than the fact that there are crazy Americans that idolize Hitler (for reasons that I’ll never understand).
The only thing this all proves is that crazy people can do horrible things. Period.
July 25, 2011 at 9:51 PM #712794Arraya
Participant[quote=KSMountain]All right-wingers? So like, Bob Dole was inspirational to him?[/quote]
Unlike the Arizona shooter – this guy was a straight political “hate-speech” inspired.
Max Blumenthal does a great job covering the architecture of his thinking.
]When I wrote my analysis last December on the “Axis of Islamophobia,” laying out a new international political network of right-wing ultra-Zionists, Christian evangelicals, Tea Party activists and racist British soccer hooligans, I did not foresee a terrorist like Anders Behring Breivik emerging from the movement’s ranks. At the same time, I am not surprised that he did.
The rhetoric of the characters who inspired Breivik, from Pam Geller to Robert Spencer to Daniel Pipes, was so eliminationist in its nature that it was perhaps only a matter of time before someone put words into action.
As horrific as Breivik’s actions were, he can not be dismissed as a “madman.” His writings contain the same themes and language as more prominent right-wing Islamophobes (or those who style themselves as “counter-Jihadists”) and many conservatives in general. What’s more, Breivik was articulate and coherent enough to offer a clear snapshot of his ideological motives. Ali Abunimah and Alex Kane have posted excellent summaries of Breivik’s writings here and here and a full English translation is here. It is also worth sitting through at least a portion of Breivik’s tedious video manifesto to get a sense of his thinking.
The Great Islamophobic Crusade
Inside the Bizarre Cabal of Secretive Donors, Demagogic Bloggers, Pseudo-Scholars, European Neo-Fascists, Violent Israeli Settlers, and Republican Presidential Hopefuls Behind the Crusade
http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/175334/tomgram:_max_blumenthal,_the_great_fear_/July 25, 2011 at 9:51 PM #712888Participant[quote=KSMountain]All right-wingers? So like, Bob Dole was inspirational to him?[/quote]
Unlike the Arizona shooter – this guy was a straight political “hate-speech” inspired.
Max Blumenthal does a great job covering the architecture of his thinking.
]When I wrote my analysis last December on the “Axis of Islamophobia,” laying out a new international political network of right-wing ultra-Zionists, Christian evangelicals, Tea Party activists and racist British soccer hooligans, I did not foresee a terrorist like Anders Behring Breivik emerging from the movement’s ranks. At the same time, I am not surprised that he did.
The rhetoric of the characters who inspired Breivik, from Pam Geller to Robert Spencer to Daniel Pipes, was so eliminationist in its nature that it was perhaps only a matter of time before someone put words into action.
As horrific as Breivik’s actions were, he can not be dismissed as a “madman.” His writings contain the same themes and language as more prominent right-wing Islamophobes (or those who style themselves as “counter-Jihadists”) and many conservatives in general. What’s more, Breivik was articulate and coherent enough to offer a clear snapshot of his ideological motives. Ali Abunimah and Alex Kane have posted excellent summaries of Breivik’s writings here and here and a full English translation is here. It is also worth sitting through at least a portion of Breivik’s tedious video manifesto to get a sense of his thinking.
The Great Islamophobic Crusade
Inside the Bizarre Cabal of Secretive Donors, Demagogic Bloggers, Pseudo-Scholars, European Neo-Fascists, Violent Israeli Settlers, and Republican Presidential Hopefuls Behind the Crusade
http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/175334/tomgram:_max_blumenthal,_the_great_fear_/July 25, 2011 at 9:51 PM #713486Participant[quote=KSMountain]All right-wingers? So like, Bob Dole was inspirational to him?[/quote]
Unlike the Arizona shooter – this guy was a straight political “hate-speech” inspired.
Max Blumenthal does a great job covering the architecture of his thinking.
]When I wrote my analysis last December on the “Axis of Islamophobia,” laying out a new international political network of right-wing ultra-Zionists, Christian evangelicals, Tea Party activists and racist British soccer hooligans, I did not foresee a terrorist like Anders Behring Breivik emerging from the movement’s ranks. At the same time, I am not surprised that he did.
The rhetoric of the characters who inspired Breivik, from Pam Geller to Robert Spencer to Daniel Pipes, was so eliminationist in its nature that it was perhaps only a matter of time before someone put words into action.
As horrific as Breivik’s actions were, he can not be dismissed as a “madman.” His writings contain the same themes and language as more prominent right-wing Islamophobes (or those who style themselves as “counter-Jihadists”) and many conservatives in general. What’s more, Breivik was articulate and coherent enough to offer a clear snapshot of his ideological motives. Ali Abunimah and Alex Kane have posted excellent summaries of Breivik’s writings here and here and a full English translation is here. It is also worth sitting through at least a portion of Breivik’s tedious video manifesto to get a sense of his thinking.
The Great Islamophobic Crusade
Inside the Bizarre Cabal of Secretive Donors, Demagogic Bloggers, Pseudo-Scholars, European Neo-Fascists, Violent Israeli Settlers, and Republican Presidential Hopefuls Behind the Crusade
http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/175334/tomgram:_max_blumenthal,_the_great_fear_/July 25, 2011 at 9:51 PM #713639Participant[quote=KSMountain]All right-wingers? So like, Bob Dole was inspirational to him?[/quote]
Unlike the Arizona shooter – this guy was a straight political “hate-speech” inspired.
Max Blumenthal does a great job covering the architecture of his thinking.
]When I wrote my analysis last December on the “Axis of Islamophobia,” laying out a new international political network of right-wing ultra-Zionists, Christian evangelicals, Tea Party activists and racist British soccer hooligans, I did not foresee a terrorist like Anders Behring Breivik emerging from the movement’s ranks. At the same time, I am not surprised that he did.
The rhetoric of the characters who inspired Breivik, from Pam Geller to Robert Spencer to Daniel Pipes, was so eliminationist in its nature that it was perhaps only a matter of time before someone put words into action.
As horrific as Breivik’s actions were, he can not be dismissed as a “madman.” His writings contain the same themes and language as more prominent right-wing Islamophobes (or those who style themselves as “counter-Jihadists”) and many conservatives in general. What’s more, Breivik was articulate and coherent enough to offer a clear snapshot of his ideological motives. Ali Abunimah and Alex Kane have posted excellent summaries of Breivik’s writings here and here and a full English translation is here. It is also worth sitting through at least a portion of Breivik’s tedious video manifesto to get a sense of his thinking.
The Great Islamophobic Crusade
Inside the Bizarre Cabal of Secretive Donors, Demagogic Bloggers, Pseudo-Scholars, European Neo-Fascists, Violent Israeli Settlers, and Republican Presidential Hopefuls Behind the Crusade
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