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We’ve also been seeing the positive high end trend in our neighborhood and in LJ and Sunset Cliffs, etc. where we have friends and family, gzz.

I think a lot of us hope, that, regardless of who the president is in the coming decades, CA real estate will continue to explode, but I’m sure we’ll eventually see riots about that, too, as more and more people are priced out of the market.

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Understand, flu. Right now many people across the country are whining about how the election ruined their lives, and my point in posting the article was to illustrate that there are many other issues Americans are facing that have an even greater potential to ruin their lives other than the election of a particular individual–just to try to give some perspective to the current hysteria.

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Not that I should have to explain myself, considering many of the posts I’ve read by others on this forum are extremely biased, and–you nailed it–“kinda creepy” in one way or another, but my original post concerned a topic about which, imo, and according to stats, huge numbers of voters should be far more concerned than many of the current topics currently being whined about across the country. That was my point.

The original post had nothing to do with my personal financial situation, but flu asked how I might remedy the situation by employing middle class workers, and I responded that we did.

Sorry to bring up reality.

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Not my point, flu. Just trying to put all of the current excessive whining and wailing in perspective, and btw, we do employ many people at the level you mentioned, and they are very appreciative.

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If the majority of voters, blue and red, really want to worry about something that has an almost 100% chance of destroying their lives, they might want to start with the following. Wonder which party they’ll blame?

“Forget about 62 or 65. More and more Americans are embracing the new reality of retiring at 70 — or later.

Many people look forward to retirement after spending years struggling through the daily grind. Unfortunately, a growing number of Americans may have to wait even longer to make their grand exit from the workforce. Although the average retirement age in the U.S. is just 63, according to a recent study by human resources consulting firm Willis Towers Watson, almost a quarter of Americans believe they won’t be able to retire until age 70 or older. Worse yet, 5% are convinced they’ll never be able to retire at all.

Even workers who plan to retire at 65 aren’t so sure of themselves. Those surveyed admit that, while they’d like to retire at 65, they think there’s a 50% chance they’ll wind up working until 70.

A lot has to do with insufficient savings. With Social Security only designed to replace about 40% of the average American’s pre-retirement income, most of us have to save independently to ensure a reasonably comfortable retirement. Yet an almost frightening one-third of Americans, many of whom are 55 and over, admit to having absolutely no retirement savings whatsoever.

And we’re stressed about it, too
For some people, the idea of working longer may not seem like such a bad thing. Financial benefits aside, studies have shown that working longer can actually lead to better health and a longer life. Yet among those surveyed by Willis Towers Watson, 40% of workers who anticipate retiring after age 70 have higher-than-average stress levels. Along these lines, 40% of workers planning to retire at 70 or later feel stuck in their jobs — ouch.

And it’s not just older workers who feel they’ll have no choice but to postpone retirement. Almost 25% of employees under 30 think they’ll wind up retiring in their 70s or even later. Meanwhile, 28% of workers in their 30s don’t think they’ll retire before 70, and 33% of 40-somethings feel the same way. It paints a pretty bleak picture, especially considering that younger workers still have a good number of years to save.” Fool.com

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That, I can understand to some degree, outtaomojo, but, imo, the secession movement is not about the common good, and is as dangerous as any politician could ever possibly be.

It is comprised primarily of people who are selfishly willing to derail the entire state, just so they can prove their point, even if it ends in disaster–which it most certainly will.

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Could be, but I don’t live in those states.

If people decide to move forward with secession, I hope they realize a lot could go wrong with this plan, and they could find themselves in a far worse situation than merely despising a particular politician.

I’ll carefully watch the progress of this proposal to see how things go, so we can cash out of all of our real estate holdings well ahead of any potential consequences (read watch your property values plummet) and live happily ever after regardless of what happens. Hope those who buy into this can do the same, just in case things don’t work out as planned.

In addition to plummeting property values, here’s another little primer on the consequences of secession:

What Would Happen if California Seceded from the Union

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Here’s what some are proposing:

http://fusion.net/story/368445/shervin-california-secession/

Might sound like a great idea until tech and other bubble industries burst again, and they are all out on the street, leaving the rest of us holding their bag. No thanks.

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On the macro level the issues are huge, and I think they will be a challenge for Trump, just as they would have been for any incoming administration.

On the micro level, there are always amazing financial and other opportunities under any administration. We’ve found that to be true under the present, and look forward to more in the future.

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Many of us realize there are always amazing financial and other opportunities under any administration. There have been under the present, and there will be in the future, so we’ll be taking advantage of those, in addition to enjoying all of the “liberal elitist” pleasures of life and more. Not to worry.

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[quote=FlyerInHi]Zk, good point on by right wing media. But it is fragmenting as is all media.
Fox is now averaging 2.2 million viewers with a core overall reach of 4 million, if I recall.
The audience is getting older.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-08-24/at-fox-news-election-year-s-big-ratings-mask-lots-of-wrinkles

Some good trends for democrats:

Regardless of the conspiracies, the core white male non-college block and their families is shrinking.

Univision is now a biggest network beating out ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX.
It’s free over the air and latino viewers are more reliable network viewers. Check out the line up of OTA Latino TV.

Facebook and social medial trend liberal. People what positive stories attached to them, not ah ha news.

In 4 years, all the Latino HS kids, BG sees in Chula Vista will be adults and of voting age. It’s happening all over the sunbelt. Those young adults will speak perfect English and not be afraid of “la policia” (police/authorities) like their parents. They will awaken the Latino giant.

Milenials will take over more responsibilities, earn more, vote more.

More boomers will die.

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Thanks for posting that info. That is great news. These trends indicate there will be a cash cow of opportunity for those who are currently well positioned and who hold the cards wrt real estate holdings, as well as other goods and services, such as movies, etc. The more consumers the merrier!

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Please don’t consider this advice, but here are a few ideas from others who were in your situation:

http://www.realtor.com/news/ask-a-realtor/how-do-i-terminate-a-buyers-agent-agreement/

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Agree with sp. As long as you are able to find good tenants, you should be fine, and, hopefully, if you do sell, you’ll find a buyer who sees the same potential.

A few of our single and multi-family properties here and in other states, although not in “ghetto” or “deplorable” areas, they are in older, high demand areas.

We’ve always been happy with the returns, and have never had any issues we couldn’t handle, so things might work out better than you think. In your case, getting the HOA on board is key.

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CAr, as you know from my posts over the years, both my wife and I come from families who have owned properties here for over a century, many of which we have inherited, and we both realize our good fortune (wrt real estate) was simply based upon being related to people who happened to be at the right place at the right time and who had the vision and the means to create a successful enterprise that we have continued to develop.

That said, I completely understand how there are many aspects of this situation wrt to property taxes, etc., that seem unfair to other taxpayers, and I can understand how there would be interest in legislating change. To that, I can only say that I believe that anyone in our same position would have taken advantage of these opportunities just as we have, but, perhaps it is time to reevaluate the situation from a different vantage point, and I wish you the best on your crusade.

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