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EconProf
ParticipantI suspect a lot of these 5+ bedroom McMansions are dinasaurs and will suffer greviously on a price per SF basis. When rising utility costs are factored in along with Americans’ coming healthy desire to downsize, quality and location will triumph over size. A smaller footprint is a good thing.
EconProf
ParticipantI suspect a lot of these 5+ bedroom McMansions are dinasaurs and will suffer greviously on a price per SF basis. When rising utility costs are factored in along with Americans’ coming healthy desire to downsize, quality and location will triumph over size. A smaller footprint is a good thing.
EconProf
ParticipantI suspect a lot of these 5+ bedroom McMansions are dinasaurs and will suffer greviously on a price per SF basis. When rising utility costs are factored in along with Americans’ coming healthy desire to downsize, quality and location will triumph over size. A smaller footprint is a good thing.
EconProf
ParticipantSince we are talking about taxes and capital gains, a couple of points:
1. Federal cap gains tax rates are about to take a huge jump from the current 15%, effective at the end of this year. So anyone contemplating the sale of an appreciated property should get going now with the sale.
2. CA cap gains are HUGE compared to most states, where sometimes it is zero. In selling a property recently, I was shocked to see it was about 40% of the Fed. amount. And escrow was forced by law to withhold an amount that will greatly exceed my CA tax liability, send it to Sacramento, which will keep it a total of 1 1/4 years until I file my CA taxes and get most of it back (probably in an I.O.U.) Thanks, Sacramento.EconProf
ParticipantSince we are talking about taxes and capital gains, a couple of points:
1. Federal cap gains tax rates are about to take a huge jump from the current 15%, effective at the end of this year. So anyone contemplating the sale of an appreciated property should get going now with the sale.
2. CA cap gains are HUGE compared to most states, where sometimes it is zero. In selling a property recently, I was shocked to see it was about 40% of the Fed. amount. And escrow was forced by law to withhold an amount that will greatly exceed my CA tax liability, send it to Sacramento, which will keep it a total of 1 1/4 years until I file my CA taxes and get most of it back (probably in an I.O.U.) Thanks, Sacramento.EconProf
ParticipantSince we are talking about taxes and capital gains, a couple of points:
1. Federal cap gains tax rates are about to take a huge jump from the current 15%, effective at the end of this year. So anyone contemplating the sale of an appreciated property should get going now with the sale.
2. CA cap gains are HUGE compared to most states, where sometimes it is zero. In selling a property recently, I was shocked to see it was about 40% of the Fed. amount. And escrow was forced by law to withhold an amount that will greatly exceed my CA tax liability, send it to Sacramento, which will keep it a total of 1 1/4 years until I file my CA taxes and get most of it back (probably in an I.O.U.) Thanks, Sacramento.EconProf
ParticipantSince we are talking about taxes and capital gains, a couple of points:
1. Federal cap gains tax rates are about to take a huge jump from the current 15%, effective at the end of this year. So anyone contemplating the sale of an appreciated property should get going now with the sale.
2. CA cap gains are HUGE compared to most states, where sometimes it is zero. In selling a property recently, I was shocked to see it was about 40% of the Fed. amount. And escrow was forced by law to withhold an amount that will greatly exceed my CA tax liability, send it to Sacramento, which will keep it a total of 1 1/4 years until I file my CA taxes and get most of it back (probably in an I.O.U.) Thanks, Sacramento.EconProf
ParticipantSince we are talking about taxes and capital gains, a couple of points:
1. Federal cap gains tax rates are about to take a huge jump from the current 15%, effective at the end of this year. So anyone contemplating the sale of an appreciated property should get going now with the sale.
2. CA cap gains are HUGE compared to most states, where sometimes it is zero. In selling a property recently, I was shocked to see it was about 40% of the Fed. amount. And escrow was forced by law to withhold an amount that will greatly exceed my CA tax liability, send it to Sacramento, which will keep it a total of 1 1/4 years until I file my CA taxes and get most of it back (probably in an I.O.U.) Thanks, Sacramento.EconProf
ParticipantYep, timing is everything.
The concept was touted by commissioned sales people and seminars, always a red flag.
Still, TICs could evolve into viable products if competition and the transparency of an efficient marketplace took hold. For example, shares should be able to be bought and sold. Right now our old-fashioned founding documents allow it only with a $25k fee.
REITs also evolved to become respectable investments, but it has taken decades. With today’s computer-enabled communications, TICs will come along faster. The 1031 exchange aspect of TICs are just too compelling for them to fade away.EconProf
ParticipantYep, timing is everything.
The concept was touted by commissioned sales people and seminars, always a red flag.
Still, TICs could evolve into viable products if competition and the transparency of an efficient marketplace took hold. For example, shares should be able to be bought and sold. Right now our old-fashioned founding documents allow it only with a $25k fee.
REITs also evolved to become respectable investments, but it has taken decades. With today’s computer-enabled communications, TICs will come along faster. The 1031 exchange aspect of TICs are just too compelling for them to fade away.EconProf
ParticipantYep, timing is everything.
The concept was touted by commissioned sales people and seminars, always a red flag.
Still, TICs could evolve into viable products if competition and the transparency of an efficient marketplace took hold. For example, shares should be able to be bought and sold. Right now our old-fashioned founding documents allow it only with a $25k fee.
REITs also evolved to become respectable investments, but it has taken decades. With today’s computer-enabled communications, TICs will come along faster. The 1031 exchange aspect of TICs are just too compelling for them to fade away.EconProf
ParticipantYep, timing is everything.
The concept was touted by commissioned sales people and seminars, always a red flag.
Still, TICs could evolve into viable products if competition and the transparency of an efficient marketplace took hold. For example, shares should be able to be bought and sold. Right now our old-fashioned founding documents allow it only with a $25k fee.
REITs also evolved to become respectable investments, but it has taken decades. With today’s computer-enabled communications, TICs will come along faster. The 1031 exchange aspect of TICs are just too compelling for them to fade away.EconProf
ParticipantYep, timing is everything.
The concept was touted by commissioned sales people and seminars, always a red flag.
Still, TICs could evolve into viable products if competition and the transparency of an efficient marketplace took hold. For example, shares should be able to be bought and sold. Right now our old-fashioned founding documents allow it only with a $25k fee.
REITs also evolved to become respectable investments, but it has taken decades. With today’s computer-enabled communications, TICs will come along faster. The 1031 exchange aspect of TICs are just too compelling for them to fade away.EconProf
ParticipantTIC’s are a unique way of owning real estate by having a percentage of the property, alongside other TIC owners, each with a percentage that adds up to 100%. They were popular a few years ago when investors were flush with capital gains on their long-held properties and sought to escape management duties by doing a tax-free exchange into a big property while escaping management duties.
Great concept in theory, but depends on two things working out: 1) Successfully farming out the management to outsiders you have to trust, and 2) Timing within the big real estate cycle. On both counts I have been unlucky, and am now paying the price.
Five years ago, flush with a big capital gain, I put several hundred thousand dollars into a promising TIC. It seemed to have everything: cash flow, great loan (5.06%!), experienced management, good RE product (high end apartment complex in the plush suburb of Overland Park, KS), and the TIC concept itself, which seemed fail-safe.
But the RE market peaked shortly thereafter, monthly cash flow checks, originally 8% on my investment, slowed and then stopped, and the management company, seeing the abyss, started to “milk” the property for its own cash flow benefit, knowing they would soon bail.
They sold, or gave away–not sure yet–their management contract to another firm. Three of us activist TIC owners, out of 24, are now trying to get answers. The new managers are on our side, and see the potential of the property itself and the rapidly-improving market it is in.
In retrospect, the big problem was timing within the grand real estate cycle. Had RE not nose-dived, the original management company would have hung in there. Five years ago everyone was looking at the fantastic returns of the immediate past. I assumed a less bouyant trend in rents and prices that would still generate a fairly riskless, moderate return. I just did not factor in a melt-down in virtually everything.
A lot of TICs are in trouble now, and many people have lost much or all of their investment. The leverage involved pretty much dictates that returns will be terrific in an up market and awful in a down market. But TICs will come back, if and when the broader market recovers. -
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