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November 26, 2008 at 8:24 AM in reply to: Reminder: Property Tax Assessment Appeals deadline 5:00 p.m. Monday, December 1 #309485November 26, 2008 at 8:24 AM in reply to: Reminder: Property Tax Assessment Appeals deadline 5:00 p.m. Monday, December 1 #309506
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ParticipantIf you bought your property after 2003 or so, you are probably paying too much.
The deadline for appealing your assessment is 5:00 p.m. December 1, next Monday.
If your annual tax bill amounts to over 1.15 percent of the property value as of January 1, then you can file an appeal by the deadline. Details by googling County Assessor.EconProf
ParticipantIf you bought your property after 2003 or so, you are probably paying too much.
The deadline for appealing your assessment is 5:00 p.m. December 1, next Monday.
If your annual tax bill amounts to over 1.15 percent of the property value as of January 1, then you can file an appeal by the deadline. Details by googling County Assessor.EconProf
ParticipantIf you bought your property after 2003 or so, you are probably paying too much.
The deadline for appealing your assessment is 5:00 p.m. December 1, next Monday.
If your annual tax bill amounts to over 1.15 percent of the property value as of January 1, then you can file an appeal by the deadline. Details by googling County Assessor.EconProf
ParticipantIf you bought your property after 2003 or so, you are probably paying too much.
The deadline for appealing your assessment is 5:00 p.m. December 1, next Monday.
If your annual tax bill amounts to over 1.15 percent of the property value as of January 1, then you can file an appeal by the deadline. Details by googling County Assessor.EconProf
ParticipantIf you bought your property after 2003 or so, you are probably paying too much.
The deadline for appealing your assessment is 5:00 p.m. December 1, next Monday.
If your annual tax bill amounts to over 1.15 percent of the property value as of January 1, then you can file an appeal by the deadline. Details by googling County Assessor.EconProf
ParticipantGood point about the psychological element in this economic cycle.
Since WWII, we’ve had over a dozen recessions. Growth goes negative for 2 or 3 quarters, rarely more. Unemployment goes from “full employment” or 4% or so to 6-7%, seldom hitting 8%. Our downturn is offset by other countries’ upturn and the world economy does OK. So our fiscal and monetary policies apply stimulus, the inventory cycle kicks in as stores and factories discover they’ve cut production too much and re-hire, consumers get back to buying long-postponed durable goods. In other words, the recession exhausts itself and we bounce back.
Now it’s different. The world economy is falling into recession, fiscal and monetary weapons have been fired and are out of ammunition, the inventory cycle isn’t working because we’ve become a service-dominant economy, and consumers are scared and only BEGUN to cut back expenses relative to what they are capable of.
Casting a pall over everything is a growing deflationary psychology that threatens to rewrite all the rules since the deflation of the 1930s. I’m not predicting it, am just saying the odds have ratcheted up of a downturn worse than anything seen since the 1930s. Mass psychology is mistakenly ignored by my fellow economists, some of whom like to masturbate looking at economic models. The genius behind the multi-billion LTCB that failed in the late 1990s? Nobel prize winner. Failed again early this year & lost his backers more. Relied on faulty assumptions again in his models. But his math was correct.
In short, the rules we used to depend on are no longer valid. Those in power in business and government–and their economists–have lost their credibility. I suggest we study history now instead of economics, and would especially recommend Charles P. Kindleberger: Manias, Panics, and Crashes.EconProf
ParticipantGood point about the psychological element in this economic cycle.
Since WWII, we’ve had over a dozen recessions. Growth goes negative for 2 or 3 quarters, rarely more. Unemployment goes from “full employment” or 4% or so to 6-7%, seldom hitting 8%. Our downturn is offset by other countries’ upturn and the world economy does OK. So our fiscal and monetary policies apply stimulus, the inventory cycle kicks in as stores and factories discover they’ve cut production too much and re-hire, consumers get back to buying long-postponed durable goods. In other words, the recession exhausts itself and we bounce back.
Now it’s different. The world economy is falling into recession, fiscal and monetary weapons have been fired and are out of ammunition, the inventory cycle isn’t working because we’ve become a service-dominant economy, and consumers are scared and only BEGUN to cut back expenses relative to what they are capable of.
Casting a pall over everything is a growing deflationary psychology that threatens to rewrite all the rules since the deflation of the 1930s. I’m not predicting it, am just saying the odds have ratcheted up of a downturn worse than anything seen since the 1930s. Mass psychology is mistakenly ignored by my fellow economists, some of whom like to masturbate looking at economic models. The genius behind the multi-billion LTCB that failed in the late 1990s? Nobel prize winner. Failed again early this year & lost his backers more. Relied on faulty assumptions again in his models. But his math was correct.
In short, the rules we used to depend on are no longer valid. Those in power in business and government–and their economists–have lost their credibility. I suggest we study history now instead of economics, and would especially recommend Charles P. Kindleberger: Manias, Panics, and Crashes.EconProf
ParticipantGood point about the psychological element in this economic cycle.
Since WWII, we’ve had over a dozen recessions. Growth goes negative for 2 or 3 quarters, rarely more. Unemployment goes from “full employment” or 4% or so to 6-7%, seldom hitting 8%. Our downturn is offset by other countries’ upturn and the world economy does OK. So our fiscal and monetary policies apply stimulus, the inventory cycle kicks in as stores and factories discover they’ve cut production too much and re-hire, consumers get back to buying long-postponed durable goods. In other words, the recession exhausts itself and we bounce back.
Now it’s different. The world economy is falling into recession, fiscal and monetary weapons have been fired and are out of ammunition, the inventory cycle isn’t working because we’ve become a service-dominant economy, and consumers are scared and only BEGUN to cut back expenses relative to what they are capable of.
Casting a pall over everything is a growing deflationary psychology that threatens to rewrite all the rules since the deflation of the 1930s. I’m not predicting it, am just saying the odds have ratcheted up of a downturn worse than anything seen since the 1930s. Mass psychology is mistakenly ignored by my fellow economists, some of whom like to masturbate looking at economic models. The genius behind the multi-billion LTCB that failed in the late 1990s? Nobel prize winner. Failed again early this year & lost his backers more. Relied on faulty assumptions again in his models. But his math was correct.
In short, the rules we used to depend on are no longer valid. Those in power in business and government–and their economists–have lost their credibility. I suggest we study history now instead of economics, and would especially recommend Charles P. Kindleberger: Manias, Panics, and Crashes.EconProf
ParticipantGood point about the psychological element in this economic cycle.
Since WWII, we’ve had over a dozen recessions. Growth goes negative for 2 or 3 quarters, rarely more. Unemployment goes from “full employment” or 4% or so to 6-7%, seldom hitting 8%. Our downturn is offset by other countries’ upturn and the world economy does OK. So our fiscal and monetary policies apply stimulus, the inventory cycle kicks in as stores and factories discover they’ve cut production too much and re-hire, consumers get back to buying long-postponed durable goods. In other words, the recession exhausts itself and we bounce back.
Now it’s different. The world economy is falling into recession, fiscal and monetary weapons have been fired and are out of ammunition, the inventory cycle isn’t working because we’ve become a service-dominant economy, and consumers are scared and only BEGUN to cut back expenses relative to what they are capable of.
Casting a pall over everything is a growing deflationary psychology that threatens to rewrite all the rules since the deflation of the 1930s. I’m not predicting it, am just saying the odds have ratcheted up of a downturn worse than anything seen since the 1930s. Mass psychology is mistakenly ignored by my fellow economists, some of whom like to masturbate looking at economic models. The genius behind the multi-billion LTCB that failed in the late 1990s? Nobel prize winner. Failed again early this year & lost his backers more. Relied on faulty assumptions again in his models. But his math was correct.
In short, the rules we used to depend on are no longer valid. Those in power in business and government–and their economists–have lost their credibility. I suggest we study history now instead of economics, and would especially recommend Charles P. Kindleberger: Manias, Panics, and Crashes.EconProf
ParticipantGood point about the psychological element in this economic cycle.
Since WWII, we’ve had over a dozen recessions. Growth goes negative for 2 or 3 quarters, rarely more. Unemployment goes from “full employment” or 4% or so to 6-7%, seldom hitting 8%. Our downturn is offset by other countries’ upturn and the world economy does OK. So our fiscal and monetary policies apply stimulus, the inventory cycle kicks in as stores and factories discover they’ve cut production too much and re-hire, consumers get back to buying long-postponed durable goods. In other words, the recession exhausts itself and we bounce back.
Now it’s different. The world economy is falling into recession, fiscal and monetary weapons have been fired and are out of ammunition, the inventory cycle isn’t working because we’ve become a service-dominant economy, and consumers are scared and only BEGUN to cut back expenses relative to what they are capable of.
Casting a pall over everything is a growing deflationary psychology that threatens to rewrite all the rules since the deflation of the 1930s. I’m not predicting it, am just saying the odds have ratcheted up of a downturn worse than anything seen since the 1930s. Mass psychology is mistakenly ignored by my fellow economists, some of whom like to masturbate looking at economic models. The genius behind the multi-billion LTCB that failed in the late 1990s? Nobel prize winner. Failed again early this year & lost his backers more. Relied on faulty assumptions again in his models. But his math was correct.
In short, the rules we used to depend on are no longer valid. Those in power in business and government–and their economists–have lost their credibility. I suggest we study history now instead of economics, and would especially recommend Charles P. Kindleberger: Manias, Panics, and Crashes.EconProf
ParticipantSan Diego city finances are soooo screwed, and accordingly, so are taxpayers within city limits.
The original whistleblower you refer to is Shipione, an accountant, and her husband, equally vocal about the coming debacle, is Pat Shea, an attorney.
The looming fiscal train wreck for San Diego is still greatly underrated in magnitude due to my favorite niche subject: time lags. Several time lags are at work here which, when combined, will drop a grenade into the city council’s little party. One time lag is the reporting and recognition delay between the portfolio deterioration of the pension fund the end-of-reporting-period publication. Apply mark-to-market rules to today’s holdings and the pension fund is way underfunded relative to its promises.
Another unremarked lag comes from RE values falling and thus future property tax revenues falling as owners flood the county with assessment appeals. That lag is years long, and will slam county and school districts as well.
Yes, you can blame Peters, Manshaim (sp), and Atkins for this, all still in power, all still bobbing and weaving to dodge responsibility. The Union Tribune has been pretty decent about reporting the shennanigans over the years, but the public employee unions run the city.
Carl DeMaio is the one hope on the city council. Long a critic of city finances, he is conservative and one smart guy. Too bad April Boling, another critic and an accountant, lost to airhead Marti Emerald. -
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