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December 7, 2009 at 9:32 PM in reply to: After 60 job applications, honor student back home in Missoula #491801December 7, 2009 at 9:32 PM in reply to: After 60 job applications, honor student back home in Missoula #492182
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Participantwfb and flu:
Standardized nationwide tests would indeed be worth considering for a lot of fields besides the current CPA and Bar exams. Noted author Charles Murray (wrote the influential book Losing Ground), believes such tests could apply to many fields.
They would also serve as the organizer for the self-taught college grad, or “master of a discipline” or whatever one wants to call this certificate. The resulting test score would be a credential that person could take into the job market–let the employer decide. Of course, existing faculty would see this system as a job threat and call it inferior.
Some people can indeed be self-guided learners and want to short-circuit all the party atmosphere, political correctness, and waste inherent in 4 – 6 years of college classes.December 7, 2009 at 9:32 PM in reply to: After 60 job applications, honor student back home in Missoula #492271EconProf
Participantwfb and flu:
Standardized nationwide tests would indeed be worth considering for a lot of fields besides the current CPA and Bar exams. Noted author Charles Murray (wrote the influential book Losing Ground), believes such tests could apply to many fields.
They would also serve as the organizer for the self-taught college grad, or “master of a discipline” or whatever one wants to call this certificate. The resulting test score would be a credential that person could take into the job market–let the employer decide. Of course, existing faculty would see this system as a job threat and call it inferior.
Some people can indeed be self-guided learners and want to short-circuit all the party atmosphere, political correctness, and waste inherent in 4 – 6 years of college classes.December 7, 2009 at 9:32 PM in reply to: After 60 job applications, honor student back home in Missoula #492505EconProf
Participantwfb and flu:
Standardized nationwide tests would indeed be worth considering for a lot of fields besides the current CPA and Bar exams. Noted author Charles Murray (wrote the influential book Losing Ground), believes such tests could apply to many fields.
They would also serve as the organizer for the self-taught college grad, or “master of a discipline” or whatever one wants to call this certificate. The resulting test score would be a credential that person could take into the job market–let the employer decide. Of course, existing faculty would see this system as a job threat and call it inferior.
Some people can indeed be self-guided learners and want to short-circuit all the party atmosphere, political correctness, and waste inherent in 4 – 6 years of college classes.December 7, 2009 at 6:23 PM in reply to: After 60 job applications, honor student back home in Missoula #491525EconProf
ParticipantCollege degrees are hugely overrated in America. Soon the public will realize the military-industrial complex is nothing compared to the education-industrial complex. Both share many traits: self-serving bureaucracies, use of scare tactics, faulty statistics, lobbyists, union featherbedding, fighting the last war (or, for educrats, politically correct causes), etc.
Consider just one of the myths propagated by the education-industrial complex…the oft-quoted high rate-of-return on an “investment” in 4+ years of college:
1. The lifetime earnings of college grads vs. HS grads comparison is embarrassingly phoney. College-bound HS seniors already differ in IQ, ambition, family background, etc. from their non-college bound peers. How much does their college degree contribute to their lifetime earnings compared to all the other factors? I cringe every time I read that meaningless statistic trotted out.
2. The particular major chosen has a huge bearing on lifetime earnings. How valuable is a Sociology degree in the job market? English, history, political science, ethnic studies, women’s studies?
3. Recent tech advances allow really ambitious and curious HS graduates to learn on their own without the huge investment in time and money. The internet is an exploding font of knowledge and discovery. And that goes not only for their major field of study but the liberal arts, history, humanities as well. Wading through general ed. classes often taught badly by bored, tenured professors and teaching assistants can be topped by motivated individuals in a disciplined, self-guided course of study.
To take a real estate example, how knowledgeable would a senior majoring in real estate or finance be compared to a dedicated 22-year old glued to the Piggington site and all its assorted links. Which would you pick as an investor-partner or employee?
America has overinvested in college and university campuses and neglected HS and junior high education. We need to reach the huge and growing fraction of high schoolers who drop out and are tired of hearing that college is the holy grail they should be aiming for.December 7, 2009 at 6:23 PM in reply to: After 60 job applications, honor student back home in Missoula #491691EconProf
ParticipantCollege degrees are hugely overrated in America. Soon the public will realize the military-industrial complex is nothing compared to the education-industrial complex. Both share many traits: self-serving bureaucracies, use of scare tactics, faulty statistics, lobbyists, union featherbedding, fighting the last war (or, for educrats, politically correct causes), etc.
Consider just one of the myths propagated by the education-industrial complex…the oft-quoted high rate-of-return on an “investment” in 4+ years of college:
1. The lifetime earnings of college grads vs. HS grads comparison is embarrassingly phoney. College-bound HS seniors already differ in IQ, ambition, family background, etc. from their non-college bound peers. How much does their college degree contribute to their lifetime earnings compared to all the other factors? I cringe every time I read that meaningless statistic trotted out.
2. The particular major chosen has a huge bearing on lifetime earnings. How valuable is a Sociology degree in the job market? English, history, political science, ethnic studies, women’s studies?
3. Recent tech advances allow really ambitious and curious HS graduates to learn on their own without the huge investment in time and money. The internet is an exploding font of knowledge and discovery. And that goes not only for their major field of study but the liberal arts, history, humanities as well. Wading through general ed. classes often taught badly by bored, tenured professors and teaching assistants can be topped by motivated individuals in a disciplined, self-guided course of study.
To take a real estate example, how knowledgeable would a senior majoring in real estate or finance be compared to a dedicated 22-year old glued to the Piggington site and all its assorted links. Which would you pick as an investor-partner or employee?
America has overinvested in college and university campuses and neglected HS and junior high education. We need to reach the huge and growing fraction of high schoolers who drop out and are tired of hearing that college is the holy grail they should be aiming for.December 7, 2009 at 6:23 PM in reply to: After 60 job applications, honor student back home in Missoula #492073EconProf
ParticipantCollege degrees are hugely overrated in America. Soon the public will realize the military-industrial complex is nothing compared to the education-industrial complex. Both share many traits: self-serving bureaucracies, use of scare tactics, faulty statistics, lobbyists, union featherbedding, fighting the last war (or, for educrats, politically correct causes), etc.
Consider just one of the myths propagated by the education-industrial complex…the oft-quoted high rate-of-return on an “investment” in 4+ years of college:
1. The lifetime earnings of college grads vs. HS grads comparison is embarrassingly phoney. College-bound HS seniors already differ in IQ, ambition, family background, etc. from their non-college bound peers. How much does their college degree contribute to their lifetime earnings compared to all the other factors? I cringe every time I read that meaningless statistic trotted out.
2. The particular major chosen has a huge bearing on lifetime earnings. How valuable is a Sociology degree in the job market? English, history, political science, ethnic studies, women’s studies?
3. Recent tech advances allow really ambitious and curious HS graduates to learn on their own without the huge investment in time and money. The internet is an exploding font of knowledge and discovery. And that goes not only for their major field of study but the liberal arts, history, humanities as well. Wading through general ed. classes often taught badly by bored, tenured professors and teaching assistants can be topped by motivated individuals in a disciplined, self-guided course of study.
To take a real estate example, how knowledgeable would a senior majoring in real estate or finance be compared to a dedicated 22-year old glued to the Piggington site and all its assorted links. Which would you pick as an investor-partner or employee?
America has overinvested in college and university campuses and neglected HS and junior high education. We need to reach the huge and growing fraction of high schoolers who drop out and are tired of hearing that college is the holy grail they should be aiming for.December 7, 2009 at 6:23 PM in reply to: After 60 job applications, honor student back home in Missoula #492161EconProf
ParticipantCollege degrees are hugely overrated in America. Soon the public will realize the military-industrial complex is nothing compared to the education-industrial complex. Both share many traits: self-serving bureaucracies, use of scare tactics, faulty statistics, lobbyists, union featherbedding, fighting the last war (or, for educrats, politically correct causes), etc.
Consider just one of the myths propagated by the education-industrial complex…the oft-quoted high rate-of-return on an “investment” in 4+ years of college:
1. The lifetime earnings of college grads vs. HS grads comparison is embarrassingly phoney. College-bound HS seniors already differ in IQ, ambition, family background, etc. from their non-college bound peers. How much does their college degree contribute to their lifetime earnings compared to all the other factors? I cringe every time I read that meaningless statistic trotted out.
2. The particular major chosen has a huge bearing on lifetime earnings. How valuable is a Sociology degree in the job market? English, history, political science, ethnic studies, women’s studies?
3. Recent tech advances allow really ambitious and curious HS graduates to learn on their own without the huge investment in time and money. The internet is an exploding font of knowledge and discovery. And that goes not only for their major field of study but the liberal arts, history, humanities as well. Wading through general ed. classes often taught badly by bored, tenured professors and teaching assistants can be topped by motivated individuals in a disciplined, self-guided course of study.
To take a real estate example, how knowledgeable would a senior majoring in real estate or finance be compared to a dedicated 22-year old glued to the Piggington site and all its assorted links. Which would you pick as an investor-partner or employee?
America has overinvested in college and university campuses and neglected HS and junior high education. We need to reach the huge and growing fraction of high schoolers who drop out and are tired of hearing that college is the holy grail they should be aiming for.December 7, 2009 at 6:23 PM in reply to: After 60 job applications, honor student back home in Missoula #492395EconProf
ParticipantCollege degrees are hugely overrated in America. Soon the public will realize the military-industrial complex is nothing compared to the education-industrial complex. Both share many traits: self-serving bureaucracies, use of scare tactics, faulty statistics, lobbyists, union featherbedding, fighting the last war (or, for educrats, politically correct causes), etc.
Consider just one of the myths propagated by the education-industrial complex…the oft-quoted high rate-of-return on an “investment” in 4+ years of college:
1. The lifetime earnings of college grads vs. HS grads comparison is embarrassingly phoney. College-bound HS seniors already differ in IQ, ambition, family background, etc. from their non-college bound peers. How much does their college degree contribute to their lifetime earnings compared to all the other factors? I cringe every time I read that meaningless statistic trotted out.
2. The particular major chosen has a huge bearing on lifetime earnings. How valuable is a Sociology degree in the job market? English, history, political science, ethnic studies, women’s studies?
3. Recent tech advances allow really ambitious and curious HS graduates to learn on their own without the huge investment in time and money. The internet is an exploding font of knowledge and discovery. And that goes not only for their major field of study but the liberal arts, history, humanities as well. Wading through general ed. classes often taught badly by bored, tenured professors and teaching assistants can be topped by motivated individuals in a disciplined, self-guided course of study.
To take a real estate example, how knowledgeable would a senior majoring in real estate or finance be compared to a dedicated 22-year old glued to the Piggington site and all its assorted links. Which would you pick as an investor-partner or employee?
America has overinvested in college and university campuses and neglected HS and junior high education. We need to reach the huge and growing fraction of high schoolers who drop out and are tired of hearing that college is the holy grail they should be aiming for.EconProf
ParticipantTo go long on gold is to go short on this government. Investors are looking at the policies of this Fed and Treasury Department, and this Congress, and saying “Get me out of here”. They are not (yet) voting with their feet by leaving the country, but are investing their money into gold and foreign stock markets. So far is year, their investments have rewarded them well.
Gold up about $18 more today.EconProf
ParticipantTo go long on gold is to go short on this government. Investors are looking at the policies of this Fed and Treasury Department, and this Congress, and saying “Get me out of here”. They are not (yet) voting with their feet by leaving the country, but are investing their money into gold and foreign stock markets. So far is year, their investments have rewarded them well.
Gold up about $18 more today.EconProf
ParticipantTo go long on gold is to go short on this government. Investors are looking at the policies of this Fed and Treasury Department, and this Congress, and saying “Get me out of here”. They are not (yet) voting with their feet by leaving the country, but are investing their money into gold and foreign stock markets. So far is year, their investments have rewarded them well.
Gold up about $18 more today.EconProf
ParticipantTo go long on gold is to go short on this government. Investors are looking at the policies of this Fed and Treasury Department, and this Congress, and saying “Get me out of here”. They are not (yet) voting with their feet by leaving the country, but are investing their money into gold and foreign stock markets. So far is year, their investments have rewarded them well.
Gold up about $18 more today.EconProf
ParticipantTo go long on gold is to go short on this government. Investors are looking at the policies of this Fed and Treasury Department, and this Congress, and saying “Get me out of here”. They are not (yet) voting with their feet by leaving the country, but are investing their money into gold and foreign stock markets. So far is year, their investments have rewarded them well.
Gold up about $18 more today.EconProf
ParticipantThis spoof from Saturday Night Live is funny because there is an element of truth to every piece of its humor. Fair or not, when SNL mocks a politician, it could be all over for him, as the polls are starting to suggest for Mr. Obama.
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