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CardiffBaseball
ParticipantNostra yes, and for the record I do not find her to be all that pretty, not ugly either just not those stunning facial features we associate with the super attractive types.. Yet she is incredibly appealing. Now this 2004 picture, she looks to have it all covered.
CardiffBaseball
ParticipantNostra yes, and for the record I do not find her to be all that pretty, not ugly either just not those stunning facial features we associate with the super attractive types.. Yet she is incredibly appealing. Now this 2004 picture, she looks to have it all covered.
CardiffBaseball
ParticipantNostra yes, and for the record I do not find her to be all that pretty, not ugly either just not those stunning facial features we associate with the super attractive types.. Yet she is incredibly appealing. Now this 2004 picture, she looks to have it all covered.
CardiffBaseball
ParticipantNostra yes, and for the record I do not find her to be all that pretty, not ugly either just not those stunning facial features we associate with the super attractive types.. Yet she is incredibly appealing. Now this 2004 picture, she looks to have it all covered.
CardiffBaseball
ParticipantNostra yes, and for the record I do not find her to be all that pretty, not ugly either just not those stunning facial features we associate with the super attractive types.. Yet she is incredibly appealing. Now this 2004 picture, she looks to have it all covered.
CardiffBaseball
ParticipantMy problem with the trashing of Palin is that if you read the tea-leaves it seems to be coming from the either the Romney or McCain camp, neither of whom are what I’d call intellectual conservatives.
I always go back to Newt Gingrich (before he got too full of himself) like him or hate him, when he was the mouthpiece, every argument was pretty damn tough. In my youthful days while in the military and aggressively studying for masters’ I paraded as a democrat. After all dad was a big union boss, and everyone in Youngstown Ohio is a democrat. I subscribed to New Republic, and loyally read articles from “The Nation”. If you think back to the very late 80s, early 90s, as the republican revolution was gathering steam remember the “talk shows”. Pat Buchannon used to destroy Michael Kinsley, and it killed me because I was a Kinsley guy. Newt would articulate well, as I’ve mentioned Dick Armey. Also Bill Bennett was a damn good debator, and at some point the logic and reason of the right won me over.
Now it could be said since I hated gun control, was pro-death penalty, and not a big fan of welfare programs I was not ever that liberal. However I was quite representative of a typical Midwestern yellow-dog democrat. Born Donkey, Die Donkey, just don’t bug me with pesky details.
I agree with Allen that we just don’t have those types of politicians in the GOP these days.
I disagree with Allen that it’s the Palin factor. The Palin factor is certainly a big part of the problem but she is merely an effect not the cause.
The problem and the reason why there are no intelligent debaters these days is precisely because of Bush’s massive shift left. Trying to be all things to all people instead of just being a conservative. Anyone who fervently supported Bush has no intellectual ground to stand on regarding conservative small governement principles. By that I mean smaller government, cutting wasteful federal programs (NE for the Arts, Dept. of Ed?), etc. How many voices out there have any credibility? If you were of the intellectual bent but went along with the massive growth in govt. how are you supposed to convince some fence-sitter to switch to the GOP?
So the last thing I think we need is a bunch of fvcks from inside McCain’s camp blaming Sarah Palin for not being smart. Scapegoating is what they are doing for to save their hides for the dumb ass campaign they ran. After all some of these losers don’t have real jobs they just hop from one politician to the next.
CardiffBaseball
ParticipantMy problem with the trashing of Palin is that if you read the tea-leaves it seems to be coming from the either the Romney or McCain camp, neither of whom are what I’d call intellectual conservatives.
I always go back to Newt Gingrich (before he got too full of himself) like him or hate him, when he was the mouthpiece, every argument was pretty damn tough. In my youthful days while in the military and aggressively studying for masters’ I paraded as a democrat. After all dad was a big union boss, and everyone in Youngstown Ohio is a democrat. I subscribed to New Republic, and loyally read articles from “The Nation”. If you think back to the very late 80s, early 90s, as the republican revolution was gathering steam remember the “talk shows”. Pat Buchannon used to destroy Michael Kinsley, and it killed me because I was a Kinsley guy. Newt would articulate well, as I’ve mentioned Dick Armey. Also Bill Bennett was a damn good debator, and at some point the logic and reason of the right won me over.
Now it could be said since I hated gun control, was pro-death penalty, and not a big fan of welfare programs I was not ever that liberal. However I was quite representative of a typical Midwestern yellow-dog democrat. Born Donkey, Die Donkey, just don’t bug me with pesky details.
I agree with Allen that we just don’t have those types of politicians in the GOP these days.
I disagree with Allen that it’s the Palin factor. The Palin factor is certainly a big part of the problem but she is merely an effect not the cause.
The problem and the reason why there are no intelligent debaters these days is precisely because of Bush’s massive shift left. Trying to be all things to all people instead of just being a conservative. Anyone who fervently supported Bush has no intellectual ground to stand on regarding conservative small governement principles. By that I mean smaller government, cutting wasteful federal programs (NE for the Arts, Dept. of Ed?), etc. How many voices out there have any credibility? If you were of the intellectual bent but went along with the massive growth in govt. how are you supposed to convince some fence-sitter to switch to the GOP?
So the last thing I think we need is a bunch of fvcks from inside McCain’s camp blaming Sarah Palin for not being smart. Scapegoating is what they are doing for to save their hides for the dumb ass campaign they ran. After all some of these losers don’t have real jobs they just hop from one politician to the next.
CardiffBaseball
ParticipantMy problem with the trashing of Palin is that if you read the tea-leaves it seems to be coming from the either the Romney or McCain camp, neither of whom are what I’d call intellectual conservatives.
I always go back to Newt Gingrich (before he got too full of himself) like him or hate him, when he was the mouthpiece, every argument was pretty damn tough. In my youthful days while in the military and aggressively studying for masters’ I paraded as a democrat. After all dad was a big union boss, and everyone in Youngstown Ohio is a democrat. I subscribed to New Republic, and loyally read articles from “The Nation”. If you think back to the very late 80s, early 90s, as the republican revolution was gathering steam remember the “talk shows”. Pat Buchannon used to destroy Michael Kinsley, and it killed me because I was a Kinsley guy. Newt would articulate well, as I’ve mentioned Dick Armey. Also Bill Bennett was a damn good debator, and at some point the logic and reason of the right won me over.
Now it could be said since I hated gun control, was pro-death penalty, and not a big fan of welfare programs I was not ever that liberal. However I was quite representative of a typical Midwestern yellow-dog democrat. Born Donkey, Die Donkey, just don’t bug me with pesky details.
I agree with Allen that we just don’t have those types of politicians in the GOP these days.
I disagree with Allen that it’s the Palin factor. The Palin factor is certainly a big part of the problem but she is merely an effect not the cause.
The problem and the reason why there are no intelligent debaters these days is precisely because of Bush’s massive shift left. Trying to be all things to all people instead of just being a conservative. Anyone who fervently supported Bush has no intellectual ground to stand on regarding conservative small governement principles. By that I mean smaller government, cutting wasteful federal programs (NE for the Arts, Dept. of Ed?), etc. How many voices out there have any credibility? If you were of the intellectual bent but went along with the massive growth in govt. how are you supposed to convince some fence-sitter to switch to the GOP?
So the last thing I think we need is a bunch of fvcks from inside McCain’s camp blaming Sarah Palin for not being smart. Scapegoating is what they are doing for to save their hides for the dumb ass campaign they ran. After all some of these losers don’t have real jobs they just hop from one politician to the next.
CardiffBaseball
ParticipantMy problem with the trashing of Palin is that if you read the tea-leaves it seems to be coming from the either the Romney or McCain camp, neither of whom are what I’d call intellectual conservatives.
I always go back to Newt Gingrich (before he got too full of himself) like him or hate him, when he was the mouthpiece, every argument was pretty damn tough. In my youthful days while in the military and aggressively studying for masters’ I paraded as a democrat. After all dad was a big union boss, and everyone in Youngstown Ohio is a democrat. I subscribed to New Republic, and loyally read articles from “The Nation”. If you think back to the very late 80s, early 90s, as the republican revolution was gathering steam remember the “talk shows”. Pat Buchannon used to destroy Michael Kinsley, and it killed me because I was a Kinsley guy. Newt would articulate well, as I’ve mentioned Dick Armey. Also Bill Bennett was a damn good debator, and at some point the logic and reason of the right won me over.
Now it could be said since I hated gun control, was pro-death penalty, and not a big fan of welfare programs I was not ever that liberal. However I was quite representative of a typical Midwestern yellow-dog democrat. Born Donkey, Die Donkey, just don’t bug me with pesky details.
I agree with Allen that we just don’t have those types of politicians in the GOP these days.
I disagree with Allen that it’s the Palin factor. The Palin factor is certainly a big part of the problem but she is merely an effect not the cause.
The problem and the reason why there are no intelligent debaters these days is precisely because of Bush’s massive shift left. Trying to be all things to all people instead of just being a conservative. Anyone who fervently supported Bush has no intellectual ground to stand on regarding conservative small governement principles. By that I mean smaller government, cutting wasteful federal programs (NE for the Arts, Dept. of Ed?), etc. How many voices out there have any credibility? If you were of the intellectual bent but went along with the massive growth in govt. how are you supposed to convince some fence-sitter to switch to the GOP?
So the last thing I think we need is a bunch of fvcks from inside McCain’s camp blaming Sarah Palin for not being smart. Scapegoating is what they are doing for to save their hides for the dumb ass campaign they ran. After all some of these losers don’t have real jobs they just hop from one politician to the next.
CardiffBaseball
ParticipantMy problem with the trashing of Palin is that if you read the tea-leaves it seems to be coming from the either the Romney or McCain camp, neither of whom are what I’d call intellectual conservatives.
I always go back to Newt Gingrich (before he got too full of himself) like him or hate him, when he was the mouthpiece, every argument was pretty damn tough. In my youthful days while in the military and aggressively studying for masters’ I paraded as a democrat. After all dad was a big union boss, and everyone in Youngstown Ohio is a democrat. I subscribed to New Republic, and loyally read articles from “The Nation”. If you think back to the very late 80s, early 90s, as the republican revolution was gathering steam remember the “talk shows”. Pat Buchannon used to destroy Michael Kinsley, and it killed me because I was a Kinsley guy. Newt would articulate well, as I’ve mentioned Dick Armey. Also Bill Bennett was a damn good debator, and at some point the logic and reason of the right won me over.
Now it could be said since I hated gun control, was pro-death penalty, and not a big fan of welfare programs I was not ever that liberal. However I was quite representative of a typical Midwestern yellow-dog democrat. Born Donkey, Die Donkey, just don’t bug me with pesky details.
I agree with Allen that we just don’t have those types of politicians in the GOP these days.
I disagree with Allen that it’s the Palin factor. The Palin factor is certainly a big part of the problem but she is merely an effect not the cause.
The problem and the reason why there are no intelligent debaters these days is precisely because of Bush’s massive shift left. Trying to be all things to all people instead of just being a conservative. Anyone who fervently supported Bush has no intellectual ground to stand on regarding conservative small governement principles. By that I mean smaller government, cutting wasteful federal programs (NE for the Arts, Dept. of Ed?), etc. How many voices out there have any credibility? If you were of the intellectual bent but went along with the massive growth in govt. how are you supposed to convince some fence-sitter to switch to the GOP?
So the last thing I think we need is a bunch of fvcks from inside McCain’s camp blaming Sarah Palin for not being smart. Scapegoating is what they are doing for to save their hides for the dumb ass campaign they ran. After all some of these losers don’t have real jobs they just hop from one politician to the next.
CardiffBaseball
ParticipantPatient I haven’t paid close attention so don’t take offense, but are you a lady, and speaking of how you like to see a man look or just as a guy respecting that he’s so thin? I don’t know, when I see these runners and triathletes I think ooh that’s too skinny. I don’t mind Michelle, taller girls are sometimes framed that way.
Give me a crossfit chick though over skinny but no muscle tone. My wife watches Dancing with the Stars while I am on the laptop… The body of that beach volleyball player gold medal winner was about perfect. Thick or should I say high cheekbones… no fat… Can’t think of her name but her husband played pro-baseball.
Lebron James is supposedly 274 now with 5% body fat. I don’t know if that is accurate just what the ESPN reporter said the other night. Is he sufficiently skinny? 4.5 speed on 6’8″. I wonder what he’ll look like at Obama’s age? Hopefully not Magic Johnson or Tony Gwynn, but sometimes great athletes have that weight gain propensity and it only stay under control while you are active.
CardiffBaseball
ParticipantPatient I haven’t paid close attention so don’t take offense, but are you a lady, and speaking of how you like to see a man look or just as a guy respecting that he’s so thin? I don’t know, when I see these runners and triathletes I think ooh that’s too skinny. I don’t mind Michelle, taller girls are sometimes framed that way.
Give me a crossfit chick though over skinny but no muscle tone. My wife watches Dancing with the Stars while I am on the laptop… The body of that beach volleyball player gold medal winner was about perfect. Thick or should I say high cheekbones… no fat… Can’t think of her name but her husband played pro-baseball.
Lebron James is supposedly 274 now with 5% body fat. I don’t know if that is accurate just what the ESPN reporter said the other night. Is he sufficiently skinny? 4.5 speed on 6’8″. I wonder what he’ll look like at Obama’s age? Hopefully not Magic Johnson or Tony Gwynn, but sometimes great athletes have that weight gain propensity and it only stay under control while you are active.
CardiffBaseball
ParticipantPatient I haven’t paid close attention so don’t take offense, but are you a lady, and speaking of how you like to see a man look or just as a guy respecting that he’s so thin? I don’t know, when I see these runners and triathletes I think ooh that’s too skinny. I don’t mind Michelle, taller girls are sometimes framed that way.
Give me a crossfit chick though over skinny but no muscle tone. My wife watches Dancing with the Stars while I am on the laptop… The body of that beach volleyball player gold medal winner was about perfect. Thick or should I say high cheekbones… no fat… Can’t think of her name but her husband played pro-baseball.
Lebron James is supposedly 274 now with 5% body fat. I don’t know if that is accurate just what the ESPN reporter said the other night. Is he sufficiently skinny? 4.5 speed on 6’8″. I wonder what he’ll look like at Obama’s age? Hopefully not Magic Johnson or Tony Gwynn, but sometimes great athletes have that weight gain propensity and it only stay under control while you are active.
CardiffBaseball
ParticipantPatient I haven’t paid close attention so don’t take offense, but are you a lady, and speaking of how you like to see a man look or just as a guy respecting that he’s so thin? I don’t know, when I see these runners and triathletes I think ooh that’s too skinny. I don’t mind Michelle, taller girls are sometimes framed that way.
Give me a crossfit chick though over skinny but no muscle tone. My wife watches Dancing with the Stars while I am on the laptop… The body of that beach volleyball player gold medal winner was about perfect. Thick or should I say high cheekbones… no fat… Can’t think of her name but her husband played pro-baseball.
Lebron James is supposedly 274 now with 5% body fat. I don’t know if that is accurate just what the ESPN reporter said the other night. Is he sufficiently skinny? 4.5 speed on 6’8″. I wonder what he’ll look like at Obama’s age? Hopefully not Magic Johnson or Tony Gwynn, but sometimes great athletes have that weight gain propensity and it only stay under control while you are active.
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