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barnaby33ParticipantPersonally I think rates need to rise substantially, but then again we’d have to stop deficit spending in line with that. Party on Waynes and Garths of the world!
Joshbarnaby33ParticipantHellishly commutable to most so cal locations.
Redneckula’s new town motto.
Joshbarnaby33ParticipantI did not pursue forbearance. As of now I’ve no need for one.
Joshbarnaby33ParticipantI went to LoanCabin and filled out the inquiry paperwork. 2 days later I get an email asking me for some rough details, to which I responded yesterday. Still no response.
Strangely I’ve pinged HLS twice and he’s not responded either. Maybe I’m un-loan-worthy, sniff…
JoshJuly 7, 2020 at 7:04 PM in reply to: OB density to be raised from 0.7 to 4.0 in proposed plan #818679barnaby33ParticipantThe link goes to a map, who is making the proposal to increase the density?
Joshbarnaby33ParticipantTo the poster who wants me to differentiate between treatment and cure, why? We have neither and the vast preponderance of evidence screams loudly that we will not be able to produce, test and manufacture either in a time frame which would mitigate anybody from catching this if they are susceptible.
The amount of fuzzy thinking and shiny graphics is just stunning. People simply do not want to accept reality. It reminds me of why religion remains popular. You’re going to die folks. So am I. I’d like it to be later rather than sooner, but sadly it’s not entirely up to me me me….
Wear a mask if you like the virtue signaling as I do. Avoid others as the only real way to stave off your individual risk (just know that you are willingly contributing to other forms of death by doing so.)
In a case like the Corona virus and with a govt as hopelessly broken as we have right now, there is practically speaking no cure or effective blocking treatment that can be deployed, hence herd immunity is the ONLY way to restore normalcy.
Josh
barnaby33Participantlet’s all throw caution to the wind because we’re all going to get it and party up.
Now that’s a straw man argument! Prophylactics will reduce the risk to you now, not society over the medium to long term.
Joshbarnaby33ParticipantHerd immunity isn’t fixed, you’re right. We don’t even know for certain if it exists with Covid-19. Lard help us all if there isn’t any such thing.
Joshbarnaby33ParticipantWhat makes you so convinced that a vaccine won’t happen?
Good question! I have two points to make as an answer. First how many viruses have we cured? The answer is very few, almost zero. A good writeup is from here:
The reasons involve biology and, to a lesser extent, money. Drug companies have developed treatments for a handful of viruses in the last few decades, such as HIV and the flu, but the arsenal is minimal when compared with all the antibiotics we have for treating bacteria. Remember that viruses are not bacteria, so antibiotics are no help.
The main difficulty is that viruses are technically not alive, instead depending on the “machinery” inside human cells to reproduce, said Zachary A. Klase, associate professor of biology at the University of the Sciences. So a drug that targets any part of that parasitic cycle could harm the patient in the process.
“You want something that targets the sickness and not you,” he said. “You need to look for the special things that only the virus is doing.”
Second is that even if a researcher today identified exactly how to block transmission or reproduction of the virus it takes a long time to weaponize it. Only in movies and even then needing a montage, is a cure or a weapon developed in short order. It takes a long time, measured in years to produce, distribute and administer a treatment or cure. Given those two data points alone it would be nothing short of the second coming of Jeebus if a cure arrived before herd immunity. It’s not impossible it’s just not probable.
Given that all the fractured news we have focusing on infection rates and with the none-too-subtle subtext of how awful this is are way off the mark. The messaging needs to be, heard immunity is the goal, here are the effective strategies to preserve as much life as we can while developing it and infections especially asymptomatic ones are a good thing for the population as a whole.
Joshbarnaby33ParticipantWe’re all going to get this, full stop. Herd immunity is the only known cure. I hate to sound like a dick as I have no wish for anyone to be ill. However with no cure and no real treatment on the horizon the absolute best we can hope for is to keep our hospital system and most vulnerable protected while the rest of us get it.
Think I’m wrong, great! Show me the path to a cure, please!
That being said, any region with 98.7% of it’s ICU full should be locked back down and hard.
Joshbarnaby33ParticipantHow often does re-zoning even occur?
Joshbarnaby33ParticipantIt takes a lot to get banned by Rich! I mean a Poway Seller lot!
Joshbarnaby33ParticipantSo Scardy you spilled a lot of digital ink, but we’re veering ever farther off topic. Does cousin marriage make you more or less optimistic?
Your cousin would like it if you kept your hands to yourself.
If she ain’t good enough for her own family, she ain’t good enough for ours!
Joshbarnaby33ParticipantPlenty of hosts on Airbnb rent long term as well. Right now you could probably find a sweet deal on a longer term rental fully furnished. The facebook group San Diego Airbnb short term rentals is a good starting point.
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