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[quote=ocrenter][quote=Blogstar]Asians are historically not good at lobbying and should be given preference.

This debate should be focused on third grade students and younger. By the end of third grade , young ones should be ready for 4th, or else they are disadvantaged. Waiting until they are college age to rectify disadvantage is where all the trouble comes from.[/quote]

that’s the problem people don’t seem to get.

you get a guy that’s well suited for SDSU and bump him up so he can get to UCLA and he’s going to get burnt. Everything in college is graded on a bell shaped curve. So you pretty much just guarenteed he’ll be lagging behind the curve in college, and probaly eventually drop out.[/quote]+100

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Totally agree with flu and ocrenter. AA tend to just put our head down, work hard and take it with no major noise. I posted this on my Facebook and did not hear a peep, not even a like. It’s kinda sad when you think about it.

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[quote=scaredyclassic]is it a dog eat dog world, or a dogs creating so many dogs world in a dogworld of ever increasing dog toys?

I used to think it was a doggie-dog world when i was little.[/quote]
Not mutually exclusive.

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[quote=CA renter][quote=AN][quote=CA renter]Students/job seekers are being fed the myth that *they* are the problem, when (IMO) the problem is our global economic system. We have an oversupply of labor, globally-speaking, and demand for the goods and services being sold is drying up in many cases. So now, parents are expected to shell out upwards of six figures for their children’s educations without any guarantee of a decent job…or even if the decent job exists today, no guarantee that the specialized training will be able to qualify that person for a job in another field if the job market should change.[/quote]Really? Upward of 6 figures? CSU tuition are only ~$6k/year while UC are about $12k/year. That’s hardly 6 figures. Now, if you waste your money on private school for a degree that doesn’t pay, well, that’s essentially your own fault for wasting that money. No one forces you to pay $40k/year for a BA in underwater basket weaving.
[quote=CA renter]And let’s just consider for a moment what would happen if *everybody* got an engineering degree. What would happen to wages for those job applicants? Would our economy, or the job market, be any better off? If we compare the “innovations” of the past few years with the innovations from our “glory days” in the 1940s-1960s, we’re not doing so well. If Facebook is what we consider to be innovation and progress, then we’re in serious trouble, IMHO.[/quote]There’s much more than just Facebook. How about iPhone, Android phones, iPad, autonomous cars, drones, computing power that far exceed desktop computers from 10 years ago in the palm of your hand, 24/7 connectivity, ability to communicate and see people across the globe, voice recognition, nano-tech, biotech, etc. I can go on and on and on. You seriously need to open your eyes if you think Facebook is the only innovation we got in the last few years.
As for if everyone has an engineering degree, you fail to see that it’s not a zero sum game. Even more start ups will occur and maybe we’ll find new markets and new innovations. Maybe we’ll have EV cars that can drive 1000 miles and cellphones that’ll last a month. Maybe we’ll have a cure for cancer and AIDS. Maybe we’ll be able to do things we never would have thought of.[/quote]

I agree that CSU is relatively inexpensive, especially if the students live at home (which is what we’re planning to do), but for students who want to attend a private university, or a university that specializes in a particular major (can’t live at home), the costs increase quite a bit.

According to the CSU Standard Student Expense Budget (and I think their estimates are on the conservative side), the *current* annual cost for a student to attend college is $15K-$16K if they live at home, $20K-$24K if they live on campus, and $22K-$24K if they live off campus. If the student attends only four years, the cost will run between $60K and $96K for just a B.A./B.S. If they aren’t able to get all of their classes when they need them, or if they change majors, or if they pursue an advanced degree, the costs go up from there. And this is basically the least expensive option.

http://www.calstate.edu/sas/costofattendance/documents/2013-14COA.pdf

We must also note that today’s “in” major could very well be tomorrow’s over-saturated major when everyone rushes to get the same degree and/or the job market shifts. Look at what’s happened to nursing, for instance. So people might start out in the “right” major, only to enter a saturated job market with few prospects. That’s every bit as “worthless” as an underwater basket weaving degree, especially if the major is highly specialized, so it can’t really transfer easily (one of the benefits of a liberal arts major).

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As for those innovations, while I respect the fact that many people are in love with their iPhones, the main innovation was getting a mobile phone into a person’s hand. That was done well before this past decade. Navigation is cool, but the rest is just “fluff” as far as I’m concerned. We had notebook/laptop computers decades ago, so the iPad isn’t such a big deal, IMO. And 24/7 connectivity is as much a burden as it is a blessing. We had voice recognition decades ago, TV cards for computers were available back then, too. And “Picturephones”/teleconferencing was available decades ago, as well. There have been some advances in biotech, but with cancer, for instance, we’re still using many of the same drugs and treatments that we were using decades ago. Drones???? Don’t get me started on drones! 🙁

Sorry, but I’m just not seeing the life-altering innovations that you seem to be seeing. Of course, I’ll admit that you are more tech-focused than I am, so you’re more likely to notice the incremental changes that might be a big deal to you (and others like you), but not nearly as impressive to me (and others like myself).

I also think you greatly underestimate the extent to which our economy IS zero-sum.[/quote]That’s the most ridiculous post I’ve ever read. My only response to a post like that is lol.

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[quote=CA renter]Students/job seekers are being fed the myth that *they* are the problem, when (IMO) the problem is our global economic system. We have an oversupply of labor, globally-speaking, and demand for the goods and services being sold is drying up in many cases. So now, parents are expected to shell out upwards of six figures for their children’s educations without any guarantee of a decent job…or even if the decent job exists today, no guarantee that the specialized training will be able to qualify that person for a job in another field if the job market should change.[/quote]Really? Upward of 6 figures? CSU tuition are only ~$6k/year while UC are about $12k/year. That’s hardly 6 figures. Now, if you waste your money on private school for a degree that doesn’t pay, well, that’s essentially your own fault for wasting that money. No one forces you to pay $40k/year for a BA in underwater basket weaving.
[quote=CA renter]And let’s just consider for a moment what would happen if *everybody* got an engineering degree. What would happen to wages for those job applicants? Would our economy, or the job market, be any better off? If we compare the “innovations” of the past few years with the innovations from our “glory days” in the 1940s-1960s, we’re not doing so well. If Facebook is what we consider to be innovation and progress, then we’re in serious trouble, IMHO.[/quote]There’s much more than just Facebook. How about iPhone, Android phones, iPad, autonomous cars, drones, computing power that far exceed desktop computers from 10 years ago in the palm of your hand, 24/7 connectivity, ability to communicate and see people across the globe, voice recognition, nano-tech, biotech, etc. I can go on and on and on. You seriously need to open your eyes if you think Facebook is the only innovation we got in the last few years.
As for if everyone has an engineering degree, you fail to see that it’s not a zero sum game. Even more start ups will occur and maybe we’ll find new markets and new innovations. Maybe we’ll have EV cars that can drive 1000 miles and cellphones that’ll last a month. Maybe we’ll have a cure for cancer and AIDS. Maybe we’ll be able to do things we never would have thought of.

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[quote=flu][quote=paramount]To be honest flu, thanks to you I’ve done very well with phot. Thanks.[/quote]

Did you not listen to me and decide to short it ? Lol[/quote]
I too benefit greatly from PHOT. Thanks flu

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[quote=flu][quote=harvey]But who will speak for the dumb kids?

CAR to the rescue![/quote]

It isn’t about dumb kids… You know the sad part of this is… Most “genius” kids either flunk out because they never bother to try or they end up like Mark Z and Bill Gates and drop out on their own because they have a better use of their time. So this really isn’t about “smart kids”.

It’s really about folks who paid their dues, put in a lot of time and effort to further themselves….And simply being denied opportunity because of their ethnicity in the interest of filling quotas…

Put in another way, it would be like the NBA having a policy that says that since asians make up 13-14% of the California population, asians are disproportionately under-represented on the LA Lakers and LA Clippers…

As a result, there should be quotas that specifically recruit asians and fill 13% of the starters on the LA Lakers and LA Clippers.. As a result, there should be a law that restrict the number of african americans that are on the LA Lakers and LA Clippers so that the percentage of african americans on the LA Lakers and LA Clippers is similar to the % of population in CA that are african americans….. irrespective of how good they may be..Simply because they are african americans and there are “too many of them” on the NBA teams…it doesn’t matter if they have “talent” or achieved great athleticism through “hard work”….

Of course the if someone did propose such a ridiculous racist/discriminatory policy, of course all hell would break lose.

So, again…….Double standards anyone?????

It would be a pretty funny spoof on the daily show if we had an SCA-NBA bill…[/quote]+1

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[quote=paramount]This is the place we need to get to in California:

This is great stuff….

Universal Choice/Real Parental Choice is Good:

and as a bonus…what’s a good teacher worth:

http://youtu.be/ImEtrk4CQow%5B/quote%5DI wish CA will do that, but I doubt that’ll ever happen. At least not while teachers union have anything to say about it.

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[quote=scaredyclassic]Be the best in a crappy school![/quote]
exactly. Or at least be in they top 9% in a good school instead of 15% in a great school. There are plenty of ways to game the system.

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[quote=flu][quote=AN][quote=flu]As a suggestion for asian parents that want their kids to go to a UC school, perhaps the trick is (in addition to changing the last name temporarily), buy a house out of state and actually apply for admission as an out of state resident that will pay for the full tuition.. Just kidding… sort of..[/quote]flu, I totally agree with you about the name thing. Which is why, if you look at my kids’ names on an application, you’d think they have German decent :-).

But if you’re going to change their name temporarily, it might make a bigger effect if you name them something like Jamal or Jermaine or Monique or Keyshia.[/quote]

I think in honor of this bill, I’ll change my kid’s last name to Hernandez, just to make a mockery of this ridiculous “law”….

Please sign the petition, and get your significant other and all of your family members and relatives to sign…[/quote]I wonder if on the application, you check the Hispanic box. Would they be able to tell? Maybe that’s one way around it. You can very well have a Chinese dad and a Mexican mom and you just happen to identify yourself more with your Hispanic heritage. That way, you don’t have to go through the hassle of changing your name :-).

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[quote=flu]As a suggestion for asian parents that want their kids to go to a UC school, perhaps the trick is (in addition to changing the last name temporarily), buy a house out of state and actually apply for admission as an out of state resident that will pay for the full tuition.. Just kidding… sort of..[/quote]flu, I totally agree with you about the name thing. Which is why, if you look at my kids’ names on an application, you’d think they have German decent :-).

But if you’re going to change their name temporarily, it might make a bigger effect if you name them something like Jamal or Jermaine or Monique or Keyshia.

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[quote=SD Realtor]AN and CDMA – Yeah it is pretty much of a burner out there right now. Hang in there. Hopefully you will get the entitled sellers phenom to occur where every seller will list well above comps and that may help push up some inventory. It may take a few months but I maybe you get some relief in July.

As for foreclosures in San Diego county, I don’t see it making much if any effect at all. Way to much cash out there still. Not to mention the government has already displayed that they will allow overall market manipulation to prevent a foreclosure inventory glut that will crash or severely depreciate housing markets.[/quote]The supply of well above comps will do me no good, I’m a cheapskate who want a killer deal :-). I’m kicking myself for not going “all in” in 2008-2011, so I’m hanging my hope on a foreclosure tsunami that spdrun keep on talking about.

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[quote=paramount]With mortage apps at 20 year lows, we don’t need the supply.[/quote]
I don’t see your point.

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[quote=CDMA ENG]I am about ready to cry over this subject.

I have literally looked at every home in San Marcos and Carlsbad… TWICE!

CE[/quote]When supply is this low, I’m sure it’s not hard to look at every home twice. Considering the big run up that we had, I would assume we’d see more dream listers listing at insane prices. We don’t even have that. What will price do in the spring if supply stay as low as it is right now? Will we see another 10-20% price increase?

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Timeshare drastically decrease in price in resale market, so if you really want to get a timeshare, resale is definitely the way to go. If you like to return to the same place every year and you have a lot of time to travel, then it might make sense. Personally, I would much rather just buy investment properties in those places if I really want to return to the same place. However, I tend to prefer traveling to new places, so timeshare won’t make much sense for me.

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