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July 2, 2009 at 8:25 AM in reply to: OT: Cap and Tax. Maybe One of the Largest Tax Increases in a Long While? #423829July 2, 2009 at 8:25 AM in reply to: OT: Cap and Tax. Maybe One of the Largest Tax Increases in a Long While? #424059
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Participantluchabee,
What was Davidson’s Ph.D thesis topic?
I hope you re-read your post. Other than completely bizarre chapter on how every American has AC and we are a OK, the paper has nothing to do with Environmental Economics, specialty of both authors. But of course, Joe the Plumber wasn’t expert on tax policy either, and he was in every talking point during election.
In the bill that passed the House, agriculture industry got a large number of carbon credits. Even if they didn’t, claiming that $60/ton higher fertilizer costs will cause world famine is silly. In 2008 fertilizer prices went up $200 to $300/ton and the world is still around.
July 2, 2009 at 8:25 AM in reply to: OT: Cap and Tax. Maybe One of the Largest Tax Increases in a Long While? #424339Participantluchabee,
What was Davidson’s Ph.D thesis topic?
I hope you re-read your post. Other than completely bizarre chapter on how every American has AC and we are a OK, the paper has nothing to do with Environmental Economics, specialty of both authors. But of course, Joe the Plumber wasn’t expert on tax policy either, and he was in every talking point during election.
In the bill that passed the House, agriculture industry got a large number of carbon credits. Even if they didn’t, claiming that $60/ton higher fertilizer costs will cause world famine is silly. In 2008 fertilizer prices went up $200 to $300/ton and the world is still around.
July 2, 2009 at 8:25 AM in reply to: OT: Cap and Tax. Maybe One of the Largest Tax Increases in a Long While? #424409Participantluchabee,
What was Davidson’s Ph.D thesis topic?
I hope you re-read your post. Other than completely bizarre chapter on how every American has AC and we are a OK, the paper has nothing to do with Environmental Economics, specialty of both authors. But of course, Joe the Plumber wasn’t expert on tax policy either, and he was in every talking point during election.
In the bill that passed the House, agriculture industry got a large number of carbon credits. Even if they didn’t, claiming that $60/ton higher fertilizer costs will cause world famine is silly. In 2008 fertilizer prices went up $200 to $300/ton and the world is still around.
July 2, 2009 at 8:25 AM in reply to: OT: Cap and Tax. Maybe One of the Largest Tax Increases in a Long While? #424571Participantluchabee,
What was Davidson’s Ph.D thesis topic?
I hope you re-read your post. Other than completely bizarre chapter on how every American has AC and we are a OK, the paper has nothing to do with Environmental Economics, specialty of both authors. But of course, Joe the Plumber wasn’t expert on tax policy either, and he was in every talking point during election.
In the bill that passed the House, agriculture industry got a large number of carbon credits. Even if they didn’t, claiming that $60/ton higher fertilizer costs will cause world famine is silly. In 2008 fertilizer prices went up $200 to $300/ton and the world is still around.
July 1, 2009 at 7:14 PM in reply to: OT: Cap and Tax. Maybe One of the Largest Tax Increases in a Long While? #423609ParticipantIf China and India decide that it is OK to grow CO2 emissions to per capita levels as current US levels or higher, I agree that it is completely moot what we do.
But with significantly higher levels of emissions per capita, we don’t have moral ground to criticize either India or China.
India and China are developing nations with significant energy consumption growth. There is nothing that will change that. There are two ways CO2 emissions can be resolved. Over next 50 years, either we work together and US lowers CO2 emissions to their levels, or developing world increases CO2 emissions to our levels.
July 1, 2009 at 7:14 PM in reply to: OT: Cap and Tax. Maybe One of the Largest Tax Increases in a Long While? #423838ParticipantIf China and India decide that it is OK to grow CO2 emissions to per capita levels as current US levels or higher, I agree that it is completely moot what we do.
But with significantly higher levels of emissions per capita, we don’t have moral ground to criticize either India or China.
India and China are developing nations with significant energy consumption growth. There is nothing that will change that. There are two ways CO2 emissions can be resolved. Over next 50 years, either we work together and US lowers CO2 emissions to their levels, or developing world increases CO2 emissions to our levels.
July 1, 2009 at 7:14 PM in reply to: OT: Cap and Tax. Maybe One of the Largest Tax Increases in a Long While? #424118ParticipantIf China and India decide that it is OK to grow CO2 emissions to per capita levels as current US levels or higher, I agree that it is completely moot what we do.
But with significantly higher levels of emissions per capita, we don’t have moral ground to criticize either India or China.
India and China are developing nations with significant energy consumption growth. There is nothing that will change that. There are two ways CO2 emissions can be resolved. Over next 50 years, either we work together and US lowers CO2 emissions to their levels, or developing world increases CO2 emissions to our levels.
July 1, 2009 at 7:14 PM in reply to: OT: Cap and Tax. Maybe One of the Largest Tax Increases in a Long While? #424188ParticipantIf China and India decide that it is OK to grow CO2 emissions to per capita levels as current US levels or higher, I agree that it is completely moot what we do.
But with significantly higher levels of emissions per capita, we don’t have moral ground to criticize either India or China.
India and China are developing nations with significant energy consumption growth. There is nothing that will change that. There are two ways CO2 emissions can be resolved. Over next 50 years, either we work together and US lowers CO2 emissions to their levels, or developing world increases CO2 emissions to our levels.
July 1, 2009 at 7:14 PM in reply to: OT: Cap and Tax. Maybe One of the Largest Tax Increases in a Long While? #424350ParticipantIf China and India decide that it is OK to grow CO2 emissions to per capita levels as current US levels or higher, I agree that it is completely moot what we do.
But with significantly higher levels of emissions per capita, we don’t have moral ground to criticize either India or China.
India and China are developing nations with significant energy consumption growth. There is nothing that will change that. There are two ways CO2 emissions can be resolved. Over next 50 years, either we work together and US lowers CO2 emissions to their levels, or developing world increases CO2 emissions to our levels.
July 1, 2009 at 6:08 PM in reply to: OT: Cap and Tax. Maybe One of the Largest Tax Increases in a Long While? #423579ParticipantYes, how dare I discriminate based on scientific credentials. Maybe we should ask Rush Limbaugh for his opinion.
China produces 1/3 of CO2 per capita US. India produces 1/10 of CO2 per capita as US.
EU introduced cap and trade in 2005 and had reduction in unemployment by 21% (from 8.9% to 7%) by 2008. I am not claiming that it was due to cap and trade, but your claim that cap and trade is economy destroyer is not grounded in fact.
July 1, 2009 at 6:08 PM in reply to: OT: Cap and Tax. Maybe One of the Largest Tax Increases in a Long While? #423808ParticipantYes, how dare I discriminate based on scientific credentials. Maybe we should ask Rush Limbaugh for his opinion.
China produces 1/3 of CO2 per capita US. India produces 1/10 of CO2 per capita as US.
EU introduced cap and trade in 2005 and had reduction in unemployment by 21% (from 8.9% to 7%) by 2008. I am not claiming that it was due to cap and trade, but your claim that cap and trade is economy destroyer is not grounded in fact.
July 1, 2009 at 6:08 PM in reply to: OT: Cap and Tax. Maybe One of the Largest Tax Increases in a Long While? #424088ParticipantYes, how dare I discriminate based on scientific credentials. Maybe we should ask Rush Limbaugh for his opinion.
China produces 1/3 of CO2 per capita US. India produces 1/10 of CO2 per capita as US.
EU introduced cap and trade in 2005 and had reduction in unemployment by 21% (from 8.9% to 7%) by 2008. I am not claiming that it was due to cap and trade, but your claim that cap and trade is economy destroyer is not grounded in fact.
July 1, 2009 at 6:08 PM in reply to: OT: Cap and Tax. Maybe One of the Largest Tax Increases in a Long While? #424157ParticipantYes, how dare I discriminate based on scientific credentials. Maybe we should ask Rush Limbaugh for his opinion.
China produces 1/3 of CO2 per capita US. India produces 1/10 of CO2 per capita as US.
EU introduced cap and trade in 2005 and had reduction in unemployment by 21% (from 8.9% to 7%) by 2008. I am not claiming that it was due to cap and trade, but your claim that cap and trade is economy destroyer is not grounded in fact.
July 1, 2009 at 6:08 PM in reply to: OT: Cap and Tax. Maybe One of the Largest Tax Increases in a Long While? #424320ParticipantYes, how dare I discriminate based on scientific credentials. Maybe we should ask Rush Limbaugh for his opinion.
China produces 1/3 of CO2 per capita US. India produces 1/10 of CO2 per capita as US.
EU introduced cap and trade in 2005 and had reduction in unemployment by 21% (from 8.9% to 7%) by 2008. I am not claiming that it was due to cap and trade, but your claim that cap and trade is economy destroyer is not grounded in fact.
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