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August 2, 2007 at 2:21 PM #69654August 2, 2007 at 2:21 PM #69729lindismithParticipant
8-lanes each way – that’s always great for surrounding home values! Add the noise and the pollution….
Why can’t we just have a comprehensive public transit system?
August 2, 2007 at 2:32 PM #69661sdrealtorParticipant“Why can’t we just have a comprehensive public transit system?”
The complete and utter lack of true employment centers!
August 2, 2007 at 2:32 PM #69735sdrealtorParticipant“Why can’t we just have a comprehensive public transit system?”
The complete and utter lack of true employment centers!
August 2, 2007 at 2:37 PM #69665jennyoParticipantHave you SEEN Oroville? Nothing in Oroville should cost $300,000. My friend bought a small house downtown for $43,000 in 2000! Yes, the lake is pretty when there is water in it, but the meth labs in the surrounding hills kind of ruin the atmosphere with the smell.
August 2, 2007 at 2:37 PM #69739jennyoParticipantHave you SEEN Oroville? Nothing in Oroville should cost $300,000. My friend bought a small house downtown for $43,000 in 2000! Yes, the lake is pretty when there is water in it, but the meth labs in the surrounding hills kind of ruin the atmosphere with the smell.
August 2, 2007 at 2:39 PM #69666Omega PointParticipant“Why can’t we just have a comprehensive public transit system?”
Because it would be inconvenient, no one would ride it, it would lose money, and just be a big waste of tax payers’ money.
August 2, 2007 at 2:39 PM #69741Omega PointParticipant“Why can’t we just have a comprehensive public transit system?”
Because it would be inconvenient, no one would ride it, it would lose money, and just be a big waste of tax payers’ money.
August 2, 2007 at 3:09 PM #69685anxvarietyParticipantI’ve lived in San Diego for 25 years and you wouldn’t believe what it looked like about 15 years ago… The 76 was one lane each way, the 15 was like a ghost town and the 5 south was almost always light.
I now commute from Oceanside to La Jolla and back.. I hit traffic in the morning on 5 south starting at La Costa and ending around Villa De La Valley-Del Mar Heights but as some have noted – the I-5 north is more frustrating… no matter what time you leave it seems that it’s backed up from I-56 to Lomas Sante Fe .
I’m in a checkmate with my commute.. I don’t want to live down here in La Jolla or Del Mar, but no matter where I move north of those two places I’m still going to have to deal with that I-5 northbound traffic.
I work directly between the Sorrento Valley and Old Town stations – why is there not even a Mission Bay coaster stop???
August 2, 2007 at 3:09 PM #69759anxvarietyParticipantI’ve lived in San Diego for 25 years and you wouldn’t believe what it looked like about 15 years ago… The 76 was one lane each way, the 15 was like a ghost town and the 5 south was almost always light.
I now commute from Oceanside to La Jolla and back.. I hit traffic in the morning on 5 south starting at La Costa and ending around Villa De La Valley-Del Mar Heights but as some have noted – the I-5 north is more frustrating… no matter what time you leave it seems that it’s backed up from I-56 to Lomas Sante Fe .
I’m in a checkmate with my commute.. I don’t want to live down here in La Jolla or Del Mar, but no matter where I move north of those two places I’m still going to have to deal with that I-5 northbound traffic.
I work directly between the Sorrento Valley and Old Town stations – why is there not even a Mission Bay coaster stop???
August 2, 2007 at 3:32 PM #69691sdrealtorParticipantwhy is there not even a Mission Bay coaster stop???
Because the Coaster doesnt float (rimshot!)
August 2, 2007 at 3:32 PM #69765sdrealtorParticipantwhy is there not even a Mission Bay coaster stop???
Because the Coaster doesnt float (rimshot!)
August 2, 2007 at 5:31 PM #69722greekfireParticipantThe biggest problem with freeway congestion here is that the I-5 and I-15 are the only north/south freeways available. Other coastal north/south alternatives such as Coast Highway, El Camino Real, or even Vulcan Dr in La Costa/Encinitas is that they are all littered with stops or traffic signals and there is no interconnection. You might luck out one day and get 2-3 green lights in a row. More often than not, however, you are bound to be stopped at EVERY darn traffic signal. This is probably as bad as sitting in freeway parking lot.
I think the Coaster is an ok alternative, but its service range is limited. Taking the bus is just not an option for most people. Cities like New York, Boston, and San Francisco have a more developed mass transit system, but even they experience a boatload of gridlock every day. Forget about carpool lanes, too, as they don’t work. How many more freaking car pool lanes do we need to build to realize that they don’t work!
CalTrans is proposing to widen the I-5 up to as many as 8-10 lanes EACH WAY! Can you imagine the huge costs and damage to residents and business that would go with all of the right-of-way acquisition alone? What’s more, I think there have been studies that show that the more you widen a road, it will eventually just fill up again. All of the development and traffic impact reports use the new traffic figures to justify building their development. Next thing you know 5-10 years have passed and traffic is back to where it was before the widening.
I started this thread a few weeks back in response to our traffic problems: http://piggington.com/traffic_solution_ultra_narrow_vehicles
Ultra narrow vehicles, a better mass-transit system, and increased tele-commuting (working from home) will help to reduce the traffic load on our freeways. Mass transit alone, widening freeways, and stinking carpool lanes won’t solve our problem.
August 2, 2007 at 5:31 PM #69797greekfireParticipantThe biggest problem with freeway congestion here is that the I-5 and I-15 are the only north/south freeways available. Other coastal north/south alternatives such as Coast Highway, El Camino Real, or even Vulcan Dr in La Costa/Encinitas is that they are all littered with stops or traffic signals and there is no interconnection. You might luck out one day and get 2-3 green lights in a row. More often than not, however, you are bound to be stopped at EVERY darn traffic signal. This is probably as bad as sitting in freeway parking lot.
I think the Coaster is an ok alternative, but its service range is limited. Taking the bus is just not an option for most people. Cities like New York, Boston, and San Francisco have a more developed mass transit system, but even they experience a boatload of gridlock every day. Forget about carpool lanes, too, as they don’t work. How many more freaking car pool lanes do we need to build to realize that they don’t work!
CalTrans is proposing to widen the I-5 up to as many as 8-10 lanes EACH WAY! Can you imagine the huge costs and damage to residents and business that would go with all of the right-of-way acquisition alone? What’s more, I think there have been studies that show that the more you widen a road, it will eventually just fill up again. All of the development and traffic impact reports use the new traffic figures to justify building their development. Next thing you know 5-10 years have passed and traffic is back to where it was before the widening.
I started this thread a few weeks back in response to our traffic problems: http://piggington.com/traffic_solution_ultra_narrow_vehicles
Ultra narrow vehicles, a better mass-transit system, and increased tele-commuting (working from home) will help to reduce the traffic load on our freeways. Mass transit alone, widening freeways, and stinking carpool lanes won’t solve our problem.
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