Why I am leaving San Diego

[DWCAP]

Your study includes the years 1992-2002. The most recient data seems to be nearly 8 years old, and totally behind the Housing bubble and recient Federal interventions.

[jstoesz]

Sorry Allan, Hockey is way more entertaining. The difference is, Hockey blows on TV and blows your mind in person. Football blows in person, and blows your mind on TV.

But I haven’t watched either in years. You have to have some pretty impressive Cable to watch the Wild or the Gophers. And the Vikings…what can you say about those retards. We just can’t seem to hire has been quarterbacks and pin brained receivers. At least we fired one of the two.

[jstoesz]

Sorry Allan, Hockey is way more entertaining. The difference is, Hockey blows on TV and blows your mind in person. Football blows in person, and blows your mind on TV.

But I haven’t watched either in years. You have to have some pretty impressive Cable to watch the Wild or the Gophers. And the Vikings…what can you say about those retards. We just can’t seem to hire has been quarterbacks and pin brained receivers. At least we fired one of the two.

[jstoesz]

Sorry Allan, Hockey is way more entertaining. The difference is, Hockey blows on TV and blows your mind in person. Football blows in person, and blows your mind on TV.

But I haven’t watched either in years. You have to have some pretty impressive Cable to watch the Wild or the Gophers. And the Vikings…what can you say about those retards. We just can’t seem to hire has been quarterbacks and pin brained receivers. At least we fired one of the two.

[jstoesz]

Sorry Allan, Hockey is way more entertaining. The difference is, Hockey blows on TV and blows your mind in person. Football blows in person, and blows your mind on TV.

But I haven’t watched either in years. You have to have some pretty impressive Cable to watch the Wild or the Gophers. And the Vikings…what can you say about those retards. We just can’t seem to hire has been quarterbacks and pin brained receivers. At least we fired one of the two.

[jstoesz]

Sorry Allan, Hockey is way more entertaining. The difference is, Hockey blows on TV and blows your mind in person. Football blows in person, and blows your mind on TV.

But I haven’t watched either in years. You have to have some pretty impressive Cable to watch the Wild or the Gophers. And the Vikings…what can you say about those retards. We just can’t seem to hire has been quarterbacks and pin brained receivers. At least we fired one of the two.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=jstoesz]The wife is from Irvine…thankfully she hates orange county.

I went to school in San Luis Obispo (finest town in California), and have worked down here for 4 years.

We are moving to Placerville and working in El Dorado Hills (foothills east of Sac). It is not out of California sadly, but it is moving in the right direction. It is way cheaper. I can rent a nice SFH on land for ~$1200/month, with south lake 1.5 hrs away.[/quote]

jstoesz, I LOVE Placerville, one of my FAV tire-chain mounting and removal areas (along with “Colfax”)!! Even though it can easily get “boxed-in” during a snowstorm, is it VERY beautiful and devoid of major commercialism. I love seeing the trains that run through there and the old locomotives. Why don’t you consider settling there (as opposed to MN) if your jobs work out?? I’ve never been to MN but I’m SURE that Placerville is more beautiful and has better weather overall. Just think about the proximity to S. Tahoe and skiing at the world-class Heavenly resort! Purchasing early season passes during the previous summer only costs about $360!

S. Tahoe is on my retirement short list. The less than half-dozen (commercial-looking) large casinos on the Stateline, NV side don’t bother me as I don’t gamble. Why don’t you consider moving there as well?? El Dorado County has jobs and its resale housing market is VERY depressed right now. I’m sure rentals there would be higher than Placerville, though. The city buses in S. Tahoe are free and have ski holders on the sides so no scrambling for parking spaces at the lifts (non-existent at the gondola).

I also love SLO with all its trees and history (and home of Cal-Poly). It’s a VERY nice town, except for the summer heat. But there are probably not too many good jobs in that area.

Yes, SD is an “irrigated desert.” It’s very nice, but not for everyone. It’s gotten VERY BIG in the last 25 years. Truly, we DO have the best weather in the nation, consistently, but there are trade-offs people make to live here that newcomers (or those considering moving here) often tire of or end up choosing not to make. Most people who have lived most or all of their lives in SD don’t know the difference. I’ve been here almost 35 years but have relatives whom I regularly visit in other states who have a low household income (by SD stds) and own gorgeous large brick newer homes on land with central A/C. I know there is a difference in the cost of real estate between SD and other areas but some or all that difference is made up in higher utilities, snow tires and higher food costs.

jstoesz, I’ve traveled about 17 states by car and I haven’t really noticed any difference anywhere in the degree of “materialism” among inhabitants. If anything, where the cost of housing is LOWER, residents have MORE discretionary income to spend on second homes, vehicles, RVs, boats, horses, vacations, jewelry, weekly salon, season tix, etc. MANY “middle-class” residents in the southwest and midwest sections of the country have second homes (lakefront or mtn) and DO NOT rent them out. Most of these second homes are purchased with cash. They are typically left empty but furnished just waiting for their owners and/or their friends/family to spend time there :=)

[bearishgurl]

[quote=jstoesz]The wife is from Irvine…thankfully she hates orange county.

I went to school in San Luis Obispo (finest town in California), and have worked down here for 4 years.

We are moving to Placerville and working in El Dorado Hills (foothills east of Sac). It is not out of California sadly, but it is moving in the right direction. It is way cheaper. I can rent a nice SFH on land for ~$1200/month, with south lake 1.5 hrs away.[/quote]

jstoesz, I LOVE Placerville, one of my FAV tire-chain mounting and removal areas (along with “Colfax”)!! Even though it can easily get “boxed-in” during a snowstorm, is it VERY beautiful and devoid of major commercialism. I love seeing the trains that run through there and the old locomotives. Why don’t you consider settling there (as opposed to MN) if your jobs work out?? I’ve never been to MN but I’m SURE that Placerville is more beautiful and has better weather overall. Just think about the proximity to S. Tahoe and skiing at the world-class Heavenly resort! Purchasing early season passes during the previous summer only costs about $360!

S. Tahoe is on my retirement short list. The less than half-dozen (commercial-looking) large casinos on the Stateline, NV side don’t bother me as I don’t gamble. Why don’t you consider moving there as well?? El Dorado County has jobs and its resale housing market is VERY depressed right now. I’m sure rentals there would be higher than Placerville, though. The city buses in S. Tahoe are free and have ski holders on the sides so no scrambling for parking spaces at the lifts (non-existent at the gondola).

I also love SLO with all its trees and history (and home of Cal-Poly). It’s a VERY nice town, except for the summer heat. But there are probably not too many good jobs in that area.

Yes, SD is an “irrigated desert.” It’s very nice, but not for everyone. It’s gotten VERY BIG in the last 25 years. Truly, we DO have the best weather in the nation, consistently, but there are trade-offs people make to live here that newcomers (or those considering moving here) often tire of or end up choosing not to make. Most people who have lived most or all of their lives in SD don’t know the difference. I’ve been here almost 35 years but have relatives whom I regularly visit in other states who have a low household income (by SD stds) and own gorgeous large brick newer homes on land with central A/C. I know there is a difference in the cost of real estate between SD and other areas but some or all that difference is made up in higher utilities, snow tires and higher food costs.

jstoesz, I’ve traveled about 17 states by car and I haven’t really noticed any difference anywhere in the degree of “materialism” among inhabitants. If anything, where the cost of housing is LOWER, residents have MORE discretionary income to spend on second homes, vehicles, RVs, boats, horses, vacations, jewelry, weekly salon, season tix, etc. MANY “middle-class” residents in the southwest and midwest sections of the country have second homes (lakefront or mtn) and DO NOT rent them out. Most of these second homes are purchased with cash. They are typically left empty but furnished just waiting for their owners and/or their friends/family to spend time there :=)

[bearishgurl]

[quote=jstoesz]The wife is from Irvine…thankfully she hates orange county.

I went to school in San Luis Obispo (finest town in California), and have worked down here for 4 years.

We are moving to Placerville and working in El Dorado Hills (foothills east of Sac). It is not out of California sadly, but it is moving in the right direction. It is way cheaper. I can rent a nice SFH on land for ~$1200/month, with south lake 1.5 hrs away.[/quote]

jstoesz, I LOVE Placerville, one of my FAV tire-chain mounting and removal areas (along with “Colfax”)!! Even though it can easily get “boxed-in” during a snowstorm, is it VERY beautiful and devoid of major commercialism. I love seeing the trains that run through there and the old locomotives. Why don’t you consider settling there (as opposed to MN) if your jobs work out?? I’ve never been to MN but I’m SURE that Placerville is more beautiful and has better weather overall. Just think about the proximity to S. Tahoe and skiing at the world-class Heavenly resort! Purchasing early season passes during the previous summer only costs about $360!

S. Tahoe is on my retirement short list. The less than half-dozen (commercial-looking) large casinos on the Stateline, NV side don’t bother me as I don’t gamble. Why don’t you consider moving there as well?? El Dorado County has jobs and its resale housing market is VERY depressed right now. I’m sure rentals there would be higher than Placerville, though. The city buses in S. Tahoe are free and have ski holders on the sides so no scrambling for parking spaces at the lifts (non-existent at the gondola).

I also love SLO with all its trees and history (and home of Cal-Poly). It’s a VERY nice town, except for the summer heat. But there are probably not too many good jobs in that area.

Yes, SD is an “irrigated desert.” It’s very nice, but not for everyone. It’s gotten VERY BIG in the last 25 years. Truly, we DO have the best weather in the nation, consistently, but there are trade-offs people make to live here that newcomers (or those considering moving here) often tire of or end up choosing not to make. Most people who have lived most or all of their lives in SD don’t know the difference. I’ve been here almost 35 years but have relatives whom I regularly visit in other states who have a low household income (by SD stds) and own gorgeous large brick newer homes on land with central A/C. I know there is a difference in the cost of real estate between SD and other areas but some or all that difference is made up in higher utilities, snow tires and higher food costs.

jstoesz, I’ve traveled about 17 states by car and I haven’t really noticed any difference anywhere in the degree of “materialism” among inhabitants. If anything, where the cost of housing is LOWER, residents have MORE discretionary income to spend on second homes, vehicles, RVs, boats, horses, vacations, jewelry, weekly salon, season tix, etc. MANY “middle-class” residents in the southwest and midwest sections of the country have second homes (lakefront or mtn) and DO NOT rent them out. Most of these second homes are purchased with cash. They are typically left empty but furnished just waiting for their owners and/or their friends/family to spend time there :=)

[bearishgurl]

[quote=jstoesz]The wife is from Irvine…thankfully she hates orange county.

I went to school in San Luis Obispo (finest town in California), and have worked down here for 4 years.

We are moving to Placerville and working in El Dorado Hills (foothills east of Sac). It is not out of California sadly, but it is moving in the right direction. It is way cheaper. I can rent a nice SFH on land for ~$1200/month, with south lake 1.5 hrs away.[/quote]

jstoesz, I LOVE Placerville, one of my FAV tire-chain mounting and removal areas (along with “Colfax”)!! Even though it can easily get “boxed-in” during a snowstorm, is it VERY beautiful and devoid of major commercialism. I love seeing the trains that run through there and the old locomotives. Why don’t you consider settling there (as opposed to MN) if your jobs work out?? I’ve never been to MN but I’m SURE that Placerville is more beautiful and has better weather overall. Just think about the proximity to S. Tahoe and skiing at the world-class Heavenly resort! Purchasing early season passes during the previous summer only costs about $360!

S. Tahoe is on my retirement short list. The less than half-dozen (commercial-looking) large casinos on the Stateline, NV side don’t bother me as I don’t gamble. Why don’t you consider moving there as well?? El Dorado County has jobs and its resale housing market is VERY depressed right now. I’m sure rentals there would be higher than Placerville, though. The city buses in S. Tahoe are free and have ski holders on the sides so no scrambling for parking spaces at the lifts (non-existent at the gondola).

I also love SLO with all its trees and history (and home of Cal-Poly). It’s a VERY nice town, except for the summer heat. But there are probably not too many good jobs in that area.

Yes, SD is an “irrigated desert.” It’s very nice, but not for everyone. It’s gotten VERY BIG in the last 25 years. Truly, we DO have the best weather in the nation, consistently, but there are trade-offs people make to live here that newcomers (or those considering moving here) often tire of or end up choosing not to make. Most people who have lived most or all of their lives in SD don’t know the difference. I’ve been here almost 35 years but have relatives whom I regularly visit in other states who have a low household income (by SD stds) and own gorgeous large brick newer homes on land with central A/C. I know there is a difference in the cost of real estate between SD and other areas but some or all that difference is made up in higher utilities, snow tires and higher food costs.

jstoesz, I’ve traveled about 17 states by car and I haven’t really noticed any difference anywhere in the degree of “materialism” among inhabitants. If anything, where the cost of housing is LOWER, residents have MORE discretionary income to spend on second homes, vehicles, RVs, boats, horses, vacations, jewelry, weekly salon, season tix, etc. MANY “middle-class” residents in the southwest and midwest sections of the country have second homes (lakefront or mtn) and DO NOT rent them out. Most of these second homes are purchased with cash. They are typically left empty but furnished just waiting for their owners and/or their friends/family to spend time there :=)

[bearishgurl]

[quote=jstoesz]The wife is from Irvine…thankfully she hates orange county.

I went to school in San Luis Obispo (finest town in California), and have worked down here for 4 years.

We are moving to Placerville and working in El Dorado Hills (foothills east of Sac). It is not out of California sadly, but it is moving in the right direction. It is way cheaper. I can rent a nice SFH on land for ~$1200/month, with south lake 1.5 hrs away.[/quote]

jstoesz, I LOVE Placerville, one of my FAV tire-chain mounting and removal areas (along with “Colfax”)!! Even though it can easily get “boxed-in” during a snowstorm, is it VERY beautiful and devoid of major commercialism. I love seeing the trains that run through there and the old locomotives. Why don’t you consider settling there (as opposed to MN) if your jobs work out?? I’ve never been to MN but I’m SURE that Placerville is more beautiful and has better weather overall. Just think about the proximity to S. Tahoe and skiing at the world-class Heavenly resort! Purchasing early season passes during the previous summer only costs about $360!

S. Tahoe is on my retirement short list. The less than half-dozen (commercial-looking) large casinos on the Stateline, NV side don’t bother me as I don’t gamble. Why don’t you consider moving there as well?? El Dorado County has jobs and its resale housing market is VERY depressed right now. I’m sure rentals there would be higher than Placerville, though. The city buses in S. Tahoe are free and have ski holders on the sides so no scrambling for parking spaces at the lifts (non-existent at the gondola).

I also love SLO with all its trees and history (and home of Cal-Poly). It’s a VERY nice town, except for the summer heat. But there are probably not too many good jobs in that area.

Yes, SD is an “irrigated desert.” It’s very nice, but not for everyone. It’s gotten VERY BIG in the last 25 years. Truly, we DO have the best weather in the nation, consistently, but there are trade-offs people make to live here that newcomers (or those considering moving here) often tire of or end up choosing not to make. Most people who have lived most or all of their lives in SD don’t know the difference. I’ve been here almost 35 years but have relatives whom I regularly visit in other states who have a low household income (by SD stds) and own gorgeous large brick newer homes on land with central A/C. I know there is a difference in the cost of real estate between SD and other areas but some or all that difference is made up in higher utilities, snow tires and higher food costs.

jstoesz, I’ve traveled about 17 states by car and I haven’t really noticed any difference anywhere in the degree of “materialism” among inhabitants. If anything, where the cost of housing is LOWER, residents have MORE discretionary income to spend on second homes, vehicles, RVs, boats, horses, vacations, jewelry, weekly salon, season tix, etc. MANY “middle-class” residents in the southwest and midwest sections of the country have second homes (lakefront or mtn) and DO NOT rent them out. Most of these second homes are purchased with cash. They are typically left empty but furnished just waiting for their owners and/or their friends/family to spend time there :=)

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=jstoesz]Sorry Allan, Hockey is way more entertaining. The difference is, Hockey blows on TV and blows your mind in person. Football blows in person, and blows your mind on TV.

But I haven’t watched either in years. You have to have some pretty impressive Cable to watch the Wild or the Gophers. And the Vikings…what can you say about those retards. We just can’t seem to hire has been quarterbacks and pin brained receivers. At least we fired one of the two.[/quote]

My buddy from MN believes that Favre is actually part of a conspiracy hatched by the Packers to destroy the Vikings. He thinks Favre is still in the employ of Green Bay, and has been tanking games intentionally.

Being a California kid, I never got hockey. I have family in MN, IL, WI and MI, so hockey was a fairly big deal with my cousins and my mom was a huge Detroit Red Wings fan.

I played football, and am a Raiders fan, so I have mental issues all my own. Although, the Raiders are starting to scare me. They’re 4 – 4 and playing lights out defense. I don’t know what I’m going to do if they stay .500 or better this year. I’m so used to being miserable and unhappy with those losing bastards, I’m not sure I know how to behave properly. I’ll probably start rooting for the 49ers.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=jstoesz]Sorry Allan, Hockey is way more entertaining. The difference is, Hockey blows on TV and blows your mind in person. Football blows in person, and blows your mind on TV.

But I haven’t watched either in years. You have to have some pretty impressive Cable to watch the Wild or the Gophers. And the Vikings…what can you say about those retards. We just can’t seem to hire has been quarterbacks and pin brained receivers. At least we fired one of the two.[/quote]

My buddy from MN believes that Favre is actually part of a conspiracy hatched by the Packers to destroy the Vikings. He thinks Favre is still in the employ of Green Bay, and has been tanking games intentionally.

Being a California kid, I never got hockey. I have family in MN, IL, WI and MI, so hockey was a fairly big deal with my cousins and my mom was a huge Detroit Red Wings fan.

I played football, and am a Raiders fan, so I have mental issues all my own. Although, the Raiders are starting to scare me. They’re 4 – 4 and playing lights out defense. I don’t know what I’m going to do if they stay .500 or better this year. I’m so used to being miserable and unhappy with those losing bastards, I’m not sure I know how to behave properly. I’ll probably start rooting for the 49ers.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=jstoesz]Sorry Allan, Hockey is way more entertaining. The difference is, Hockey blows on TV and blows your mind in person. Football blows in person, and blows your mind on TV.

But I haven’t watched either in years. You have to have some pretty impressive Cable to watch the Wild or the Gophers. And the Vikings…what can you say about those retards. We just can’t seem to hire has been quarterbacks and pin brained receivers. At least we fired one of the two.[/quote]

My buddy from MN believes that Favre is actually part of a conspiracy hatched by the Packers to destroy the Vikings. He thinks Favre is still in the employ of Green Bay, and has been tanking games intentionally.

Being a California kid, I never got hockey. I have family in MN, IL, WI and MI, so hockey was a fairly big deal with my cousins and my mom was a huge Detroit Red Wings fan.

I played football, and am a Raiders fan, so I have mental issues all my own. Although, the Raiders are starting to scare me. They’re 4 – 4 and playing lights out defense. I don’t know what I’m going to do if they stay .500 or better this year. I’m so used to being miserable and unhappy with those losing bastards, I’m not sure I know how to behave properly. I’ll probably start rooting for the 49ers.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=jstoesz]Sorry Allan, Hockey is way more entertaining. The difference is, Hockey blows on TV and blows your mind in person. Football blows in person, and blows your mind on TV.

But I haven’t watched either in years. You have to have some pretty impressive Cable to watch the Wild or the Gophers. And the Vikings…what can you say about those retards. We just can’t seem to hire has been quarterbacks and pin brained receivers. At least we fired one of the two.[/quote]

My buddy from MN believes that Favre is actually part of a conspiracy hatched by the Packers to destroy the Vikings. He thinks Favre is still in the employ of Green Bay, and has been tanking games intentionally.

Being a California kid, I never got hockey. I have family in MN, IL, WI and MI, so hockey was a fairly big deal with my cousins and my mom was a huge Detroit Red Wings fan.

I played football, and am a Raiders fan, so I have mental issues all my own. Although, the Raiders are starting to scare me. They’re 4 – 4 and playing lights out defense. I don’t know what I’m going to do if they stay .500 or better this year. I’m so used to being miserable and unhappy with those losing bastards, I’m not sure I know how to behave properly. I’ll probably start rooting for the 49ers.

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