Why I am leaving San Diego

[jstoesz]

Thank you all for your kind words. You are good bunch…

bearishgirl, you asked why we do not stay up there.

Ultimately, the answer is because we do not have family up there. My wife’s and my family are both amazing, and we want involved Grandparents. But if I were master of the universe we would move the whole lot to lake tahoe (or SLO) and I would only be cognizant of my after tax income. But sadly I am not master of the universe.

So when it comes to to really settling and putting down deep roots, SD (because we hate OC even more) or Minneapolis are our only really viable choices.

To the materialism thing. I think their is a big difference with MN’s and the cabins, and CA and their houses and cars and boats and clothes.

You have a hard time finding a new BMW or Mercedes in MN, even people who can afford them are embarrassed by their money and are not in a hurry to flaunt it. Not that there is anything wrong with either car (not my thing, but in MN it is a source of embarrassment). I remember in school we would call kids who were higher in the socio-economic ladder “rich” and they would vehemently deny it. There was no, my dad makes more than your dad shenanigans.

Cabins are something families have and are passed down from generations. Most of my friends had cabins that their grandparents gave them. As long as you pay the taxes your family keeps the cabin.

I agree with you all about letting the materialism roll off your back, it doesn’t bother me much. I drive a beat honda and wear clothes till they have holes. It can get in my wife head from time to time, and I am terrified of what it could do to a child.

[DWCAP]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=jstoesz]Sorry Allan, Hockey is way more entertaining. The difference is, Hockey blows on TV and blows your mind in person. Football blows in person, and blows your mind on TV.

But I haven’t watched either in years. You have to have some pretty impressive Cable to watch the Wild or the Gophers. And the Vikings…what can you say about those retards. We just can’t seem to hire has been quarterbacks and pin brained receivers. At least we fired one of the two.[/quote]

My buddy from MN believes that Favre is actually part of a conspiracy hatched by the Packers to destroy the Vikings. He thinks Favre is still in the employ of Green Bay, and has been tanking games intentionally.

Being a California kid, I never got hockey. I have family in MN, IL, WI and MI, so hockey was a fairly big deal with my cousins and my mom was a huge Detroit Red Wings fan.

I played football, and am a Raiders fan, so I have mental issues all my own. Although, the Raiders are starting to scare me. They’re 4 – 4 and playing lights out defense. I don’t know what I’m going to do if they stay .500 or better this year. I’m so used to being miserable and unhappy with those losing bastards, I’m not sure I know how to behave properly. I’ll probably start rooting for the 49ers.[/quote]

Then like most football fans he must have totally forgotten last year, and the fact that the Farve lead Vikings kicked the Crap out of the Packers. The problem with the Vikings is that they cant get a good young Quarterback to save their lives. The last guy, Tarvaris, Sucked. Sucked sucked sucked. They needed to drop him like a whinny reciever, (cough) Moss (cough), and get someone young who needed a year to learn LAST year. There was plenty of time for ‘the kid’ to play dead time last year and learn from the guy who holds so many records it isnt funny. Instead they road that horse into the ground and were left with nothing but some bad Chuck meat at the end for this year. Obviously, This is Farves last year.

But PLEASE coaches, find someone new. T.Jackson couldnt lead his way out of a wet paper bag.

[DWCAP]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=jstoesz]Sorry Allan, Hockey is way more entertaining. The difference is, Hockey blows on TV and blows your mind in person. Football blows in person, and blows your mind on TV.

But I haven’t watched either in years. You have to have some pretty impressive Cable to watch the Wild or the Gophers. And the Vikings…what can you say about those retards. We just can’t seem to hire has been quarterbacks and pin brained receivers. At least we fired one of the two.[/quote]

My buddy from MN believes that Favre is actually part of a conspiracy hatched by the Packers to destroy the Vikings. He thinks Favre is still in the employ of Green Bay, and has been tanking games intentionally.

Being a California kid, I never got hockey. I have family in MN, IL, WI and MI, so hockey was a fairly big deal with my cousins and my mom was a huge Detroit Red Wings fan.

I played football, and am a Raiders fan, so I have mental issues all my own. Although, the Raiders are starting to scare me. They’re 4 – 4 and playing lights out defense. I don’t know what I’m going to do if they stay .500 or better this year. I’m so used to being miserable and unhappy with those losing bastards, I’m not sure I know how to behave properly. I’ll probably start rooting for the 49ers.[/quote]

Then like most football fans he must have totally forgotten last year, and the fact that the Farve lead Vikings kicked the Crap out of the Packers. The problem with the Vikings is that they cant get a good young Quarterback to save their lives. The last guy, Tarvaris, Sucked. Sucked sucked sucked. They needed to drop him like a whinny reciever, (cough) Moss (cough), and get someone young who needed a year to learn LAST year. There was plenty of time for ‘the kid’ to play dead time last year and learn from the guy who holds so many records it isnt funny. Instead they road that horse into the ground and were left with nothing but some bad Chuck meat at the end for this year. Obviously, This is Farves last year.

But PLEASE coaches, find someone new. T.Jackson couldnt lead his way out of a wet paper bag.

[DWCAP]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=jstoesz]Sorry Allan, Hockey is way more entertaining. The difference is, Hockey blows on TV and blows your mind in person. Football blows in person, and blows your mind on TV.

But I haven’t watched either in years. You have to have some pretty impressive Cable to watch the Wild or the Gophers. And the Vikings…what can you say about those retards. We just can’t seem to hire has been quarterbacks and pin brained receivers. At least we fired one of the two.[/quote]

My buddy from MN believes that Favre is actually part of a conspiracy hatched by the Packers to destroy the Vikings. He thinks Favre is still in the employ of Green Bay, and has been tanking games intentionally.

Being a California kid, I never got hockey. I have family in MN, IL, WI and MI, so hockey was a fairly big deal with my cousins and my mom was a huge Detroit Red Wings fan.

I played football, and am a Raiders fan, so I have mental issues all my own. Although, the Raiders are starting to scare me. They’re 4 – 4 and playing lights out defense. I don’t know what I’m going to do if they stay .500 or better this year. I’m so used to being miserable and unhappy with those losing bastards, I’m not sure I know how to behave properly. I’ll probably start rooting for the 49ers.[/quote]

Then like most football fans he must have totally forgotten last year, and the fact that the Farve lead Vikings kicked the Crap out of the Packers. The problem with the Vikings is that they cant get a good young Quarterback to save their lives. The last guy, Tarvaris, Sucked. Sucked sucked sucked. They needed to drop him like a whinny reciever, (cough) Moss (cough), and get someone young who needed a year to learn LAST year. There was plenty of time for ‘the kid’ to play dead time last year and learn from the guy who holds so many records it isnt funny. Instead they road that horse into the ground and were left with nothing but some bad Chuck meat at the end for this year. Obviously, This is Farves last year.

But PLEASE coaches, find someone new. T.Jackson couldnt lead his way out of a wet paper bag.

[DWCAP]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=jstoesz]Sorry Allan, Hockey is way more entertaining. The difference is, Hockey blows on TV and blows your mind in person. Football blows in person, and blows your mind on TV.

But I haven’t watched either in years. You have to have some pretty impressive Cable to watch the Wild or the Gophers. And the Vikings…what can you say about those retards. We just can’t seem to hire has been quarterbacks and pin brained receivers. At least we fired one of the two.[/quote]

My buddy from MN believes that Favre is actually part of a conspiracy hatched by the Packers to destroy the Vikings. He thinks Favre is still in the employ of Green Bay, and has been tanking games intentionally.

Being a California kid, I never got hockey. I have family in MN, IL, WI and MI, so hockey was a fairly big deal with my cousins and my mom was a huge Detroit Red Wings fan.

I played football, and am a Raiders fan, so I have mental issues all my own. Although, the Raiders are starting to scare me. They’re 4 – 4 and playing lights out defense. I don’t know what I’m going to do if they stay .500 or better this year. I’m so used to being miserable and unhappy with those losing bastards, I’m not sure I know how to behave properly. I’ll probably start rooting for the 49ers.[/quote]

Then like most football fans he must have totally forgotten last year, and the fact that the Farve lead Vikings kicked the Crap out of the Packers. The problem with the Vikings is that they cant get a good young Quarterback to save their lives. The last guy, Tarvaris, Sucked. Sucked sucked sucked. They needed to drop him like a whinny reciever, (cough) Moss (cough), and get someone young who needed a year to learn LAST year. There was plenty of time for ‘the kid’ to play dead time last year and learn from the guy who holds so many records it isnt funny. Instead they road that horse into the ground and were left with nothing but some bad Chuck meat at the end for this year. Obviously, This is Farves last year.

But PLEASE coaches, find someone new. T.Jackson couldnt lead his way out of a wet paper bag.

[DWCAP]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=jstoesz]Sorry Allan, Hockey is way more entertaining. The difference is, Hockey blows on TV and blows your mind in person. Football blows in person, and blows your mind on TV.

But I haven’t watched either in years. You have to have some pretty impressive Cable to watch the Wild or the Gophers. And the Vikings…what can you say about those retards. We just can’t seem to hire has been quarterbacks and pin brained receivers. At least we fired one of the two.[/quote]

My buddy from MN believes that Favre is actually part of a conspiracy hatched by the Packers to destroy the Vikings. He thinks Favre is still in the employ of Green Bay, and has been tanking games intentionally.

Being a California kid, I never got hockey. I have family in MN, IL, WI and MI, so hockey was a fairly big deal with my cousins and my mom was a huge Detroit Red Wings fan.

I played football, and am a Raiders fan, so I have mental issues all my own. Although, the Raiders are starting to scare me. They’re 4 – 4 and playing lights out defense. I don’t know what I’m going to do if they stay .500 or better this year. I’m so used to being miserable and unhappy with those losing bastards, I’m not sure I know how to behave properly. I’ll probably start rooting for the 49ers.[/quote]

Then like most football fans he must have totally forgotten last year, and the fact that the Farve lead Vikings kicked the Crap out of the Packers. The problem with the Vikings is that they cant get a good young Quarterback to save their lives. The last guy, Tarvaris, Sucked. Sucked sucked sucked. They needed to drop him like a whinny reciever, (cough) Moss (cough), and get someone young who needed a year to learn LAST year. There was plenty of time for ‘the kid’ to play dead time last year and learn from the guy who holds so many records it isnt funny. Instead they road that horse into the ground and were left with nothing but some bad Chuck meat at the end for this year. Obviously, This is Farves last year.

But PLEASE coaches, find someone new. T.Jackson couldnt lead his way out of a wet paper bag.

[jstoesz]

wow! You hit that nail on the head…

that is exactly what has killed me about the vikings. We have a habit of getting washed up quarterbacks and hope they can hit a good receiving lineup. The practice goes back to Good ole warren moon. Sure we had a few good years with culpepper, but the man had less than half a brain…he was clearly no franchise maker.

Sadly I found out both Culpepper and Green are now in Sacramento at the Sacramento Mountain Lions. So no matter how little Dante or Denny, I can’t get away from them.

[jstoesz]

wow! You hit that nail on the head…

that is exactly what has killed me about the vikings. We have a habit of getting washed up quarterbacks and hope they can hit a good receiving lineup. The practice goes back to Good ole warren moon. Sure we had a few good years with culpepper, but the man had less than half a brain…he was clearly no franchise maker.

Sadly I found out both Culpepper and Green are now in Sacramento at the Sacramento Mountain Lions. So no matter how little Dante or Denny, I can’t get away from them.

[jstoesz]

wow! You hit that nail on the head…

that is exactly what has killed me about the vikings. We have a habit of getting washed up quarterbacks and hope they can hit a good receiving lineup. The practice goes back to Good ole warren moon. Sure we had a few good years with culpepper, but the man had less than half a brain…he was clearly no franchise maker.

Sadly I found out both Culpepper and Green are now in Sacramento at the Sacramento Mountain Lions. So no matter how little Dante or Denny, I can’t get away from them.

[jstoesz]

wow! You hit that nail on the head…

that is exactly what has killed me about the vikings. We have a habit of getting washed up quarterbacks and hope they can hit a good receiving lineup. The practice goes back to Good ole warren moon. Sure we had a few good years with culpepper, but the man had less than half a brain…he was clearly no franchise maker.

Sadly I found out both Culpepper and Green are now in Sacramento at the Sacramento Mountain Lions. So no matter how little Dante or Denny, I can’t get away from them.

[jstoesz]

wow! You hit that nail on the head…

that is exactly what has killed me about the vikings. We have a habit of getting washed up quarterbacks and hope they can hit a good receiving lineup. The practice goes back to Good ole warren moon. Sure we had a few good years with culpepper, but the man had less than half a brain…he was clearly no franchise maker.

Sadly I found out both Culpepper and Green are now in Sacramento at the Sacramento Mountain Lions. So no matter how little Dante or Denny, I can’t get away from them.

[joec]

[quote=jstoesz]
I agree with you all about letting the materialism roll off your back, it doesn’t bother me much. I drive a beat honda and wear clothes till they have holes. It can get in my wife head from time to time, and I am terrified of what it could do to a child.[/quote]

I think you just described every married man with children…me included. Really, why put good cash/resources on nice clothes after those 2 things? I don’t need to look nice. 😉

I agree LA/OC is a ton more superficial/fake than SD or the bay area having lived in all 3 places…SD is pricey to live as well, but of the 3, it’s still cheaper by a mile in terms of housing for what you get/schools than the bay area or LA.

SAC would be nice for Tahoe. Miss the slopes down here…

Good luck on your move! If your wife doesn’t have family/friends in SAC, I wouldn’t be too surprised to see another move in the near future unfortunately. 🙁

[joec]

[quote=jstoesz]
I agree with you all about letting the materialism roll off your back, it doesn’t bother me much. I drive a beat honda and wear clothes till they have holes. It can get in my wife head from time to time, and I am terrified of what it could do to a child.[/quote]

I think you just described every married man with children…me included. Really, why put good cash/resources on nice clothes after those 2 things? I don’t need to look nice. 😉

I agree LA/OC is a ton more superficial/fake than SD or the bay area having lived in all 3 places…SD is pricey to live as well, but of the 3, it’s still cheaper by a mile in terms of housing for what you get/schools than the bay area or LA.

SAC would be nice for Tahoe. Miss the slopes down here…

Good luck on your move! If your wife doesn’t have family/friends in SAC, I wouldn’t be too surprised to see another move in the near future unfortunately. 🙁

[joec]

[quote=jstoesz]
I agree with you all about letting the materialism roll off your back, it doesn’t bother me much. I drive a beat honda and wear clothes till they have holes. It can get in my wife head from time to time, and I am terrified of what it could do to a child.[/quote]

I think you just described every married man with children…me included. Really, why put good cash/resources on nice clothes after those 2 things? I don’t need to look nice. 😉

I agree LA/OC is a ton more superficial/fake than SD or the bay area having lived in all 3 places…SD is pricey to live as well, but of the 3, it’s still cheaper by a mile in terms of housing for what you get/schools than the bay area or LA.

SAC would be nice for Tahoe. Miss the slopes down here…

Good luck on your move! If your wife doesn’t have family/friends in SAC, I wouldn’t be too surprised to see another move in the near future unfortunately. 🙁

[joec]

[quote=jstoesz]
I agree with you all about letting the materialism roll off your back, it doesn’t bother me much. I drive a beat honda and wear clothes till they have holes. It can get in my wife head from time to time, and I am terrified of what it could do to a child.[/quote]

I think you just described every married man with children…me included. Really, why put good cash/resources on nice clothes after those 2 things? I don’t need to look nice. 😉

I agree LA/OC is a ton more superficial/fake than SD or the bay area having lived in all 3 places…SD is pricey to live as well, but of the 3, it’s still cheaper by a mile in terms of housing for what you get/schools than the bay area or LA.

SAC would be nice for Tahoe. Miss the slopes down here…

Good luck on your move! If your wife doesn’t have family/friends in SAC, I wouldn’t be too surprised to see another move in the near future unfortunately. 🙁

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