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June 22, 2009 at 10:13 AM #419395June 22, 2009 at 11:21 AM #418719
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Participant[quote=Casca]Or as that fellow Burke said some time ago, “For evil to triumph only requires that good men do nothing.”
[/quote]This implies that there is no middle ground between “doing nothing” and absolute all out invasion of a foreign country on false pretenses. The is of course a huge middle ground in our foreign policy responses to various crisis. I suppose around here you’re either W (invading Iraq on false pretenses) or you are Chamberlain? Please.
June 22, 2009 at 11:21 AM #418949Participant[quote=Casca]Or as that fellow Burke said some time ago, “For evil to triumph only requires that good men do nothing.”
[/quote]This implies that there is no middle ground between “doing nothing” and absolute all out invasion of a foreign country on false pretenses. The is of course a huge middle ground in our foreign policy responses to various crisis. I suppose around here you’re either W (invading Iraq on false pretenses) or you are Chamberlain? Please.
June 22, 2009 at 11:21 AM #419216Participant[quote=Casca]Or as that fellow Burke said some time ago, “For evil to triumph only requires that good men do nothing.”
[/quote]This implies that there is no middle ground between “doing nothing” and absolute all out invasion of a foreign country on false pretenses. The is of course a huge middle ground in our foreign policy responses to various crisis. I suppose around here you’re either W (invading Iraq on false pretenses) or you are Chamberlain? Please.
June 22, 2009 at 11:21 AM #419283Participant[quote=Casca]Or as that fellow Burke said some time ago, “For evil to triumph only requires that good men do nothing.”
[/quote]This implies that there is no middle ground between “doing nothing” and absolute all out invasion of a foreign country on false pretenses. The is of course a huge middle ground in our foreign policy responses to various crisis. I suppose around here you’re either W (invading Iraq on false pretenses) or you are Chamberlain? Please.
June 22, 2009 at 11:21 AM #419444Participant[quote=Casca]Or as that fellow Burke said some time ago, “For evil to triumph only requires that good men do nothing.”
[/quote]This implies that there is no middle ground between “doing nothing” and absolute all out invasion of a foreign country on false pretenses. The is of course a huge middle ground in our foreign policy responses to various crisis. I suppose around here you’re either W (invading Iraq on false pretenses) or you are Chamberlain? Please.
June 22, 2009 at 11:29 AM #418730ParticipantOut of curiosity, which country was it that flew those planes into the WTC? And which country was it that bombed the Spanish trains?
Because we should just bomb that country into oblivion, right?
The issues are not that simple, except to people who take a simplistic view of them. If you could define “get involved” a little better, maybe we could take you more seriously.
[quote=GoUSC]Of course we shouldn’t get involved in the issues of other countries…
I mean it’s not like…
1. A bunch of guys flew planes into two buildings in New York.
2. Or blew up a bunch of trains in Spain.
3. Or just today said if they got Pakistan’s nuclear weapons they would use them against us.
4. Or are trying to acquire nuclear weapons and plan to fire a ballistic missile towards Hawaii.
Of course not. If we just stick our heads in the sand and don’t activity take a roll in the world today all of these problems will go away.
I mean afterall we should all behave like Neville Chamberlain. That really worked out well for Europe.
The naivity of people never ceases to amaze me.
Look I am no surpport of George Bush. He did plenty wrong. But Obama is trying to use the current situation to push through a huge program of increase government spending and doing it at a time when everybody is more worried about paying their bills then focusing on what Washington is doing.
We *CANNOT* run ourselves in tens of trillions of dollars of debt and expect it to work.
With all that said I think everyone in DC doesn’t give a crap about us and that being a politician has become more about getting re-elected than serving the country.[/quote]
June 22, 2009 at 11:29 AM #418959ParticipantOut of curiosity, which country was it that flew those planes into the WTC? And which country was it that bombed the Spanish trains?
Because we should just bomb that country into oblivion, right?
The issues are not that simple, except to people who take a simplistic view of them. If you could define “get involved” a little better, maybe we could take you more seriously.
[quote=GoUSC]Of course we shouldn’t get involved in the issues of other countries…
I mean it’s not like…
1. A bunch of guys flew planes into two buildings in New York.
2. Or blew up a bunch of trains in Spain.
3. Or just today said if they got Pakistan’s nuclear weapons they would use them against us.
4. Or are trying to acquire nuclear weapons and plan to fire a ballistic missile towards Hawaii.
Of course not. If we just stick our heads in the sand and don’t activity take a roll in the world today all of these problems will go away.
I mean afterall we should all behave like Neville Chamberlain. That really worked out well for Europe.
The naivity of people never ceases to amaze me.
Look I am no surpport of George Bush. He did plenty wrong. But Obama is trying to use the current situation to push through a huge program of increase government spending and doing it at a time when everybody is more worried about paying their bills then focusing on what Washington is doing.
We *CANNOT* run ourselves in tens of trillions of dollars of debt and expect it to work.
With all that said I think everyone in DC doesn’t give a crap about us and that being a politician has become more about getting re-elected than serving the country.[/quote]
June 22, 2009 at 11:29 AM #419226ParticipantOut of curiosity, which country was it that flew those planes into the WTC? And which country was it that bombed the Spanish trains?
Because we should just bomb that country into oblivion, right?
The issues are not that simple, except to people who take a simplistic view of them. If you could define “get involved” a little better, maybe we could take you more seriously.
[quote=GoUSC]Of course we shouldn’t get involved in the issues of other countries…
I mean it’s not like…
1. A bunch of guys flew planes into two buildings in New York.
2. Or blew up a bunch of trains in Spain.
3. Or just today said if they got Pakistan’s nuclear weapons they would use them against us.
4. Or are trying to acquire nuclear weapons and plan to fire a ballistic missile towards Hawaii.
Of course not. If we just stick our heads in the sand and don’t activity take a roll in the world today all of these problems will go away.
I mean afterall we should all behave like Neville Chamberlain. That really worked out well for Europe.
The naivity of people never ceases to amaze me.
Look I am no surpport of George Bush. He did plenty wrong. But Obama is trying to use the current situation to push through a huge program of increase government spending and doing it at a time when everybody is more worried about paying their bills then focusing on what Washington is doing.
We *CANNOT* run ourselves in tens of trillions of dollars of debt and expect it to work.
With all that said I think everyone in DC doesn’t give a crap about us and that being a politician has become more about getting re-elected than serving the country.[/quote]
June 22, 2009 at 11:29 AM #419293ParticipantOut of curiosity, which country was it that flew those planes into the WTC? And which country was it that bombed the Spanish trains?
Because we should just bomb that country into oblivion, right?
The issues are not that simple, except to people who take a simplistic view of them. If you could define “get involved” a little better, maybe we could take you more seriously.
[quote=GoUSC]Of course we shouldn’t get involved in the issues of other countries…
I mean it’s not like…
1. A bunch of guys flew planes into two buildings in New York.
2. Or blew up a bunch of trains in Spain.
3. Or just today said if they got Pakistan’s nuclear weapons they would use them against us.
4. Or are trying to acquire nuclear weapons and plan to fire a ballistic missile towards Hawaii.
Of course not. If we just stick our heads in the sand and don’t activity take a roll in the world today all of these problems will go away.
I mean afterall we should all behave like Neville Chamberlain. That really worked out well for Europe.
The naivity of people never ceases to amaze me.
Look I am no surpport of George Bush. He did plenty wrong. But Obama is trying to use the current situation to push through a huge program of increase government spending and doing it at a time when everybody is more worried about paying their bills then focusing on what Washington is doing.
We *CANNOT* run ourselves in tens of trillions of dollars of debt and expect it to work.
With all that said I think everyone in DC doesn’t give a crap about us and that being a politician has become more about getting re-elected than serving the country.[/quote]
June 22, 2009 at 11:29 AM #419454ParticipantOut of curiosity, which country was it that flew those planes into the WTC? And which country was it that bombed the Spanish trains?
Because we should just bomb that country into oblivion, right?
The issues are not that simple, except to people who take a simplistic view of them. If you could define “get involved” a little better, maybe we could take you more seriously.
[quote=GoUSC]Of course we shouldn’t get involved in the issues of other countries…
I mean it’s not like…
1. A bunch of guys flew planes into two buildings in New York.
2. Or blew up a bunch of trains in Spain.
3. Or just today said if they got Pakistan’s nuclear weapons they would use them against us.
4. Or are trying to acquire nuclear weapons and plan to fire a ballistic missile towards Hawaii.
Of course not. If we just stick our heads in the sand and don’t activity take a roll in the world today all of these problems will go away.
I mean afterall we should all behave like Neville Chamberlain. That really worked out well for Europe.
The naivity of people never ceases to amaze me.
Look I am no surpport of George Bush. He did plenty wrong. But Obama is trying to use the current situation to push through a huge program of increase government spending and doing it at a time when everybody is more worried about paying their bills then focusing on what Washington is doing.
We *CANNOT* run ourselves in tens of trillions of dollars of debt and expect it to work.
With all that said I think everyone in DC doesn’t give a crap about us and that being a politician has become more about getting re-elected than serving the country.[/quote]
June 22, 2009 at 12:12 PM #418763luchabee
ParticipantLikely, we will have a 15% unemployment rate in CA when all is said and done, if we are not already there. California is our test case for the US as a whole and our new regulatory, tax and spend state. The only thing keeping the federal government propped up is our ability to print and borrow money. This will stop soon, unfortunately.
Liberal policies are predicated on the idea that American businesses are what they once were, but with globalism, we really don’t have much anymore. So, like GM and California, liberals have killed our competitiveness and the nation as a whole is next. In sum, globalism would have turn us into England inevitably (no significant manufacturing base, etc.), but liberalism helped to get us there a whole lot quicker.
Likely, sdgirl, you have never employed anyone in CA or met a payroll . . . So you may have not thought about all the burdens to running a business in the US and CA under Democrat rule.
June 22, 2009 at 12:12 PM #418994ParticipantLikely, we will have a 15% unemployment rate in CA when all is said and done, if we are not already there. California is our test case for the US as a whole and our new regulatory, tax and spend state. The only thing keeping the federal government propped up is our ability to print and borrow money. This will stop soon, unfortunately.
Liberal policies are predicated on the idea that American businesses are what they once were, but with globalism, we really don’t have much anymore. So, like GM and California, liberals have killed our competitiveness and the nation as a whole is next. In sum, globalism would have turn us into England inevitably (no significant manufacturing base, etc.), but liberalism helped to get us there a whole lot quicker.
Likely, sdgirl, you have never employed anyone in CA or met a payroll . . . So you may have not thought about all the burdens to running a business in the US and CA under Democrat rule.
June 22, 2009 at 12:12 PM #419260ParticipantLikely, we will have a 15% unemployment rate in CA when all is said and done, if we are not already there. California is our test case for the US as a whole and our new regulatory, tax and spend state. The only thing keeping the federal government propped up is our ability to print and borrow money. This will stop soon, unfortunately.
Liberal policies are predicated on the idea that American businesses are what they once were, but with globalism, we really don’t have much anymore. So, like GM and California, liberals have killed our competitiveness and the nation as a whole is next. In sum, globalism would have turn us into England inevitably (no significant manufacturing base, etc.), but liberalism helped to get us there a whole lot quicker.
Likely, sdgirl, you have never employed anyone in CA or met a payroll . . . So you may have not thought about all the burdens to running a business in the US and CA under Democrat rule.
June 22, 2009 at 12:12 PM #419328ParticipantLikely, we will have a 15% unemployment rate in CA when all is said and done, if we are not already there. California is our test case for the US as a whole and our new regulatory, tax and spend state. The only thing keeping the federal government propped up is our ability to print and borrow money. This will stop soon, unfortunately.
Liberal policies are predicated on the idea that American businesses are what they once were, but with globalism, we really don’t have much anymore. So, like GM and California, liberals have killed our competitiveness and the nation as a whole is next. In sum, globalism would have turn us into England inevitably (no significant manufacturing base, etc.), but liberalism helped to get us there a whole lot quicker.
Likely, sdgirl, you have never employed anyone in CA or met a payroll . . . So you may have not thought about all the burdens to running a business in the US and CA under Democrat rule.
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