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June 23, 2009 at 10:44 PM #420284June 24, 2009 at 7:43 AM #419610socratttParticipant
[quote=Veritas] Both parties leave a lot to be desired and both will have to morph into something that supports core values of the majority of those the government serves or neither will survive. A party built on a loose coalition of fringe groups will not last in the long haul and will not survive the looming monetary crisis or leadership crisis.[/quote]
Veritas, extremely good point and what many fail to understand. This main post was merely addressed to take the side of Obama. Let’s be honest Obama has a lot of issues we could frown upon as well. The point is simple, neither Dems or Repubs seem to get the point. I think the real problem lies in the relationship between business and state. If we could tear those two apart and focus more on the people rather than the internal relationships that run this country we would be in a much better position.
No party will get it right. No one is hailing Obama as the Messiah anymore because it is obvious he isn’t going to fix the problem and is now in a better position of causing greater harm than good. I thought his goals entailed curbing spending. Look where we are today. Spending $1.6 trillion on a health care bill while our government is essentially bankrupt is ridiculous. Why can’t CA or our country figure out how to stop this mess? It isn’t as hard as it looks, the problem is we have too many corrupt politicians looking out for their best interests and businesses lobbying for their piece of the pie. There are plenty of projects that can be cut that many of our citizens would agree upon.
I am tired of all this garbage. I am tired of hearing Bush did this and Obama did that. This country is joke and we, the people, need to take a stand and help solve the problems that brought us here. If we don’t start taking control as citizens our government will run this country into the ground! We haven’t seen this happen yet (except on paper). I believe we are months away from a lot of changes as those bailouts gave us some breathing room!
June 24, 2009 at 7:43 AM #419841socratttParticipant[quote=Veritas] Both parties leave a lot to be desired and both will have to morph into something that supports core values of the majority of those the government serves or neither will survive. A party built on a loose coalition of fringe groups will not last in the long haul and will not survive the looming monetary crisis or leadership crisis.[/quote]
Veritas, extremely good point and what many fail to understand. This main post was merely addressed to take the side of Obama. Let’s be honest Obama has a lot of issues we could frown upon as well. The point is simple, neither Dems or Repubs seem to get the point. I think the real problem lies in the relationship between business and state. If we could tear those two apart and focus more on the people rather than the internal relationships that run this country we would be in a much better position.
No party will get it right. No one is hailing Obama as the Messiah anymore because it is obvious he isn’t going to fix the problem and is now in a better position of causing greater harm than good. I thought his goals entailed curbing spending. Look where we are today. Spending $1.6 trillion on a health care bill while our government is essentially bankrupt is ridiculous. Why can’t CA or our country figure out how to stop this mess? It isn’t as hard as it looks, the problem is we have too many corrupt politicians looking out for their best interests and businesses lobbying for their piece of the pie. There are plenty of projects that can be cut that many of our citizens would agree upon.
I am tired of all this garbage. I am tired of hearing Bush did this and Obama did that. This country is joke and we, the people, need to take a stand and help solve the problems that brought us here. If we don’t start taking control as citizens our government will run this country into the ground! We haven’t seen this happen yet (except on paper). I believe we are months away from a lot of changes as those bailouts gave us some breathing room!
June 24, 2009 at 7:43 AM #420110socratttParticipant[quote=Veritas] Both parties leave a lot to be desired and both will have to morph into something that supports core values of the majority of those the government serves or neither will survive. A party built on a loose coalition of fringe groups will not last in the long haul and will not survive the looming monetary crisis or leadership crisis.[/quote]
Veritas, extremely good point and what many fail to understand. This main post was merely addressed to take the side of Obama. Let’s be honest Obama has a lot of issues we could frown upon as well. The point is simple, neither Dems or Repubs seem to get the point. I think the real problem lies in the relationship between business and state. If we could tear those two apart and focus more on the people rather than the internal relationships that run this country we would be in a much better position.
No party will get it right. No one is hailing Obama as the Messiah anymore because it is obvious he isn’t going to fix the problem and is now in a better position of causing greater harm than good. I thought his goals entailed curbing spending. Look where we are today. Spending $1.6 trillion on a health care bill while our government is essentially bankrupt is ridiculous. Why can’t CA or our country figure out how to stop this mess? It isn’t as hard as it looks, the problem is we have too many corrupt politicians looking out for their best interests and businesses lobbying for their piece of the pie. There are plenty of projects that can be cut that many of our citizens would agree upon.
I am tired of all this garbage. I am tired of hearing Bush did this and Obama did that. This country is joke and we, the people, need to take a stand and help solve the problems that brought us here. If we don’t start taking control as citizens our government will run this country into the ground! We haven’t seen this happen yet (except on paper). I believe we are months away from a lot of changes as those bailouts gave us some breathing room!
June 24, 2009 at 7:43 AM #420177socratttParticipant[quote=Veritas] Both parties leave a lot to be desired and both will have to morph into something that supports core values of the majority of those the government serves or neither will survive. A party built on a loose coalition of fringe groups will not last in the long haul and will not survive the looming monetary crisis or leadership crisis.[/quote]
Veritas, extremely good point and what many fail to understand. This main post was merely addressed to take the side of Obama. Let’s be honest Obama has a lot of issues we could frown upon as well. The point is simple, neither Dems or Repubs seem to get the point. I think the real problem lies in the relationship between business and state. If we could tear those two apart and focus more on the people rather than the internal relationships that run this country we would be in a much better position.
No party will get it right. No one is hailing Obama as the Messiah anymore because it is obvious he isn’t going to fix the problem and is now in a better position of causing greater harm than good. I thought his goals entailed curbing spending. Look where we are today. Spending $1.6 trillion on a health care bill while our government is essentially bankrupt is ridiculous. Why can’t CA or our country figure out how to stop this mess? It isn’t as hard as it looks, the problem is we have too many corrupt politicians looking out for their best interests and businesses lobbying for their piece of the pie. There are plenty of projects that can be cut that many of our citizens would agree upon.
I am tired of all this garbage. I am tired of hearing Bush did this and Obama did that. This country is joke and we, the people, need to take a stand and help solve the problems that brought us here. If we don’t start taking control as citizens our government will run this country into the ground! We haven’t seen this happen yet (except on paper). I believe we are months away from a lot of changes as those bailouts gave us some breathing room!
June 24, 2009 at 7:43 AM #420339socratttParticipant[quote=Veritas] Both parties leave a lot to be desired and both will have to morph into something that supports core values of the majority of those the government serves or neither will survive. A party built on a loose coalition of fringe groups will not last in the long haul and will not survive the looming monetary crisis or leadership crisis.[/quote]
Veritas, extremely good point and what many fail to understand. This main post was merely addressed to take the side of Obama. Let’s be honest Obama has a lot of issues we could frown upon as well. The point is simple, neither Dems or Repubs seem to get the point. I think the real problem lies in the relationship between business and state. If we could tear those two apart and focus more on the people rather than the internal relationships that run this country we would be in a much better position.
No party will get it right. No one is hailing Obama as the Messiah anymore because it is obvious he isn’t going to fix the problem and is now in a better position of causing greater harm than good. I thought his goals entailed curbing spending. Look where we are today. Spending $1.6 trillion on a health care bill while our government is essentially bankrupt is ridiculous. Why can’t CA or our country figure out how to stop this mess? It isn’t as hard as it looks, the problem is we have too many corrupt politicians looking out for their best interests and businesses lobbying for their piece of the pie. There are plenty of projects that can be cut that many of our citizens would agree upon.
I am tired of all this garbage. I am tired of hearing Bush did this and Obama did that. This country is joke and we, the people, need to take a stand and help solve the problems that brought us here. If we don’t start taking control as citizens our government will run this country into the ground! We haven’t seen this happen yet (except on paper). I believe we are months away from a lot of changes as those bailouts gave us some breathing room!
June 24, 2009 at 10:22 AM #419650VeritasParticipantSocrattt:
You are 100% correct. The chickens are getting ready to roost. The economy is a ticking time bomb and now we have the North Korean cartoon character ready to ruin our party, Iranian instability, Afghanistan and Iraq continuing to drain the coffers. What next? Is Yellowstone ready to blow and give us a natural nuclear winter? It’s almost like watching a mini series only we are in it. The tea parties are more about taxes than Obama, regardless of what the media portrays. Most of them are a slice of Americana, not just old, grumpy white people. I suggest everyone voice their opinion to Congress by writing, emailing and calling them to tell them what you want, not what they think you want.
June 24, 2009 at 10:22 AM #419881VeritasParticipantSocrattt:
You are 100% correct. The chickens are getting ready to roost. The economy is a ticking time bomb and now we have the North Korean cartoon character ready to ruin our party, Iranian instability, Afghanistan and Iraq continuing to drain the coffers. What next? Is Yellowstone ready to blow and give us a natural nuclear winter? It’s almost like watching a mini series only we are in it. The tea parties are more about taxes than Obama, regardless of what the media portrays. Most of them are a slice of Americana, not just old, grumpy white people. I suggest everyone voice their opinion to Congress by writing, emailing and calling them to tell them what you want, not what they think you want.
June 24, 2009 at 10:22 AM #420150VeritasParticipantSocrattt:
You are 100% correct. The chickens are getting ready to roost. The economy is a ticking time bomb and now we have the North Korean cartoon character ready to ruin our party, Iranian instability, Afghanistan and Iraq continuing to drain the coffers. What next? Is Yellowstone ready to blow and give us a natural nuclear winter? It’s almost like watching a mini series only we are in it. The tea parties are more about taxes than Obama, regardless of what the media portrays. Most of them are a slice of Americana, not just old, grumpy white people. I suggest everyone voice their opinion to Congress by writing, emailing and calling them to tell them what you want, not what they think you want.
June 24, 2009 at 10:22 AM #420217VeritasParticipantSocrattt:
You are 100% correct. The chickens are getting ready to roost. The economy is a ticking time bomb and now we have the North Korean cartoon character ready to ruin our party, Iranian instability, Afghanistan and Iraq continuing to drain the coffers. What next? Is Yellowstone ready to blow and give us a natural nuclear winter? It’s almost like watching a mini series only we are in it. The tea parties are more about taxes than Obama, regardless of what the media portrays. Most of them are a slice of Americana, not just old, grumpy white people. I suggest everyone voice their opinion to Congress by writing, emailing and calling them to tell them what you want, not what they think you want.
June 24, 2009 at 10:22 AM #420379VeritasParticipantSocrattt:
You are 100% correct. The chickens are getting ready to roost. The economy is a ticking time bomb and now we have the North Korean cartoon character ready to ruin our party, Iranian instability, Afghanistan and Iraq continuing to drain the coffers. What next? Is Yellowstone ready to blow and give us a natural nuclear winter? It’s almost like watching a mini series only we are in it. The tea parties are more about taxes than Obama, regardless of what the media portrays. Most of them are a slice of Americana, not just old, grumpy white people. I suggest everyone voice their opinion to Congress by writing, emailing and calling them to tell them what you want, not what they think you want.
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