Whole Foods Saturation

[NotCranky]

[quote=faterikcartman]Years ago a friend introduced me to People’s hippie Co-Op in OB. I carefully observed the general health, appearance, and smell of the hippies there and heard their exhortations to eat organic and raw foods. For years now, as a result of those observations, I have restricted my diet to one consisting only of products with at least ten ingredients I cannot pronounce or identify, cooked products, overly processed products, and those containing a reasonably high level preservatives, and meat, preferably red, included in every meal and some between-meal snacks. I remain strong and healthy, with fantastic cholesterol and other blood levels. The hippies I encounter are constantly searching for some new organic or diet craze to cure their malaise and numerous physical and psychological issues. If I didn’t hate them so much I would tell them my secret.[/quote]

I am a lot like you with regards to health, it’s a gift. A lot of those folks at people’s and other health food nuts, had experienced serious illnesses before they took faith and refuge in alternative diets. Until you have walked in their shoes you don’t know.They may be screwed either way. And yes being hygiene challenged is often part of being a hippie, it wasn’t quite universal though.I Loved those hummus and avocado sandwiches with spouts and jack cheese.

Some of you might remember Jimbo working at People’s ? He was a really nice young man… and clean too.

[faterikcartman]

[quote=Jacarandoso][quote=faterikcartman]Years ago a friend introduced me to People’s hippie Co-Op in OB. I carefully observed the general health, appearance, and smell of the hippies there and heard their exhortations to eat organic and raw foods. For years now, as a result of those observations, I have restricted my diet to one consisting only of products with at least ten ingredients I cannot pronounce or identify, cooked products, overly processed products, and those containing a reasonably high level preservatives, and meat, preferably red, included in every meal and some between-meal snacks. I remain strong and healthy, with fantastic cholesterol and other blood levels. The hippies I encounter are constantly searching for some new organic or diet craze to cure their malaise and numerous physical and psychological issues. If I didn’t hate them so much I would tell them my secret.[/quote]

I am a lot like you with regards to health, it’s a gift. A lot of those folks at people’s and other health food nuts, had experienced serious illnesses before they took faith and refuge in alternative diets. Until you have walked in their shoes you don’t know.They may be screwed either way. And yes being hygiene challenged is often part of being a hippie, it wasn’t quite universal though.I Loved those hummus and avocado sandwiches with spouts and jack cheese.

Some of you might remember Jimbo working at People’s ? He was a really nice young man… and clean too.[/quote]

Believe me, I have heartfelt sympathy for someone with a legitimate medical issue. My beef is generally with people looking for salvation from a guru, crystals, pyramids, chakras, auras, or earth goddesses via fad health foods. I’ve seen otherwise normal and healthy people adopt a vegan, vegetarian, raw food, or organic everything and no red meat, [fill in the blank] and become generally unhealthy and with a good dose of the crazies. Most everyone here not afflicted knows someone too.

I’m all for balanced. I think too many people who get on these kicks lose that and, IMO, their health suffers.

For the .000000001% who might care we’ve been on what we call a modified Atkins diet for years. We look and feel great and our blood and other tests back that up. We don’t bother with consulting the book or anything like that. We try to eat a lot of veggies and we generally skip breads, pastas, sodas, and food out of a box.

For the guy who likes sausages, we do too. Have you tried http://www.tandhsausage.Jalapeñoalepeno and cheddar sausage!

As for Whole Foods, I guess a lot of people got upset when they learned the owner was a capitalist: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204251404574342170072865070.html
Which cracked me up because the prices should have tipped them off years ago. As for me, I think the owner is great and if there were a Whole Foods near me where I could get California grown produce instead of Mexico (especially tomatoes) I would buy them withouthesitationn even if they were expensive.

[faterikcartman]

[quote=Jacarandoso][quote=faterikcartman]Years ago a friend introduced me to People’s hippie Co-Op in OB. I carefully observed the general health, appearance, and smell of the hippies there and heard their exhortations to eat organic and raw foods. For years now, as a result of those observations, I have restricted my diet to one consisting only of products with at least ten ingredients I cannot pronounce or identify, cooked products, overly processed products, and those containing a reasonably high level preservatives, and meat, preferably red, included in every meal and some between-meal snacks. I remain strong and healthy, with fantastic cholesterol and other blood levels. The hippies I encounter are constantly searching for some new organic or diet craze to cure their malaise and numerous physical and psychological issues. If I didn’t hate them so much I would tell them my secret.[/quote]

I am a lot like you with regards to health, it’s a gift. A lot of those folks at people’s and other health food nuts, had experienced serious illnesses before they took faith and refuge in alternative diets. Until you have walked in their shoes you don’t know.They may be screwed either way. And yes being hygiene challenged is often part of being a hippie, it wasn’t quite universal though.I Loved those hummus and avocado sandwiches with spouts and jack cheese.

Some of you might remember Jimbo working at People’s ? He was a really nice young man… and clean too.[/quote]

Believe me, I have heartfelt sympathy for someone with a legitimate medical issue. My beef is generally with people looking for salvation from a guru, crystals, pyramids, chakras, auras, or earth goddesses via fad health foods. I’ve seen otherwise normal and healthy people adopt a vegan, vegetarian, raw food, or organic everything and no red meat, [fill in the blank] and become generally unhealthy and with a good dose of the crazies. Most everyone here not afflicted knows someone too.

I’m all for balanced. I think too many people who get on these kicks lose that and, IMO, their health suffers.

For the .000000001% who might care we’ve been on what we call a modified Atkins diet for years. We look and feel great and our blood and other tests back that up. We don’t bother with consulting the book or anything like that. We try to eat a lot of veggies and we generally skip breads, pastas, sodas, and food out of a box.

For the guy who likes sausages, we do too. Have you tried http://www.tandhsausage.Jalapeñoalepeno and cheddar sausage!

As for Whole Foods, I guess a lot of people got upset when they learned the owner was a capitalist: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204251404574342170072865070.html
Which cracked me up because the prices should have tipped them off years ago. As for me, I think the owner is great and if there were a Whole Foods near me where I could get California grown produce instead of Mexico (especially tomatoes) I would buy them withouthesitationn even if they were expensive.

[faterikcartman]

[quote=Jacarandoso][quote=faterikcartman]Years ago a friend introduced me to People’s hippie Co-Op in OB. I carefully observed the general health, appearance, and smell of the hippies there and heard their exhortations to eat organic and raw foods. For years now, as a result of those observations, I have restricted my diet to one consisting only of products with at least ten ingredients I cannot pronounce or identify, cooked products, overly processed products, and those containing a reasonably high level preservatives, and meat, preferably red, included in every meal and some between-meal snacks. I remain strong and healthy, with fantastic cholesterol and other blood levels. The hippies I encounter are constantly searching for some new organic or diet craze to cure their malaise and numerous physical and psychological issues. If I didn’t hate them so much I would tell them my secret.[/quote]

I am a lot like you with regards to health, it’s a gift. A lot of those folks at people’s and other health food nuts, had experienced serious illnesses before they took faith and refuge in alternative diets. Until you have walked in their shoes you don’t know.They may be screwed either way. And yes being hygiene challenged is often part of being a hippie, it wasn’t quite universal though.I Loved those hummus and avocado sandwiches with spouts and jack cheese.

Some of you might remember Jimbo working at People’s ? He was a really nice young man… and clean too.[/quote]

Believe me, I have heartfelt sympathy for someone with a legitimate medical issue. My beef is generally with people looking for salvation from a guru, crystals, pyramids, chakras, auras, or earth goddesses via fad health foods. I’ve seen otherwise normal and healthy people adopt a vegan, vegetarian, raw food, or organic everything and no red meat, [fill in the blank] and become generally unhealthy and with a good dose of the crazies. Most everyone here not afflicted knows someone too.

I’m all for balanced. I think too many people who get on these kicks lose that and, IMO, their health suffers.

For the .000000001% who might care we’ve been on what we call a modified Atkins diet for years. We look and feel great and our blood and other tests back that up. We don’t bother with consulting the book or anything like that. We try to eat a lot of veggies and we generally skip breads, pastas, sodas, and food out of a box.

For the guy who likes sausages, we do too. Have you tried http://www.tandhsausage.Jalapeñoalepeno and cheddar sausage!

As for Whole Foods, I guess a lot of people got upset when they learned the owner was a capitalist: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204251404574342170072865070.html
Which cracked me up because the prices should have tipped them off years ago. As for me, I think the owner is great and if there were a Whole Foods near me where I could get California grown produce instead of Mexico (especially tomatoes) I would buy them withouthesitationn even if they were expensive.

[faterikcartman]

[quote=Jacarandoso][quote=faterikcartman]Years ago a friend introduced me to People’s hippie Co-Op in OB. I carefully observed the general health, appearance, and smell of the hippies there and heard their exhortations to eat organic and raw foods. For years now, as a result of those observations, I have restricted my diet to one consisting only of products with at least ten ingredients I cannot pronounce or identify, cooked products, overly processed products, and those containing a reasonably high level preservatives, and meat, preferably red, included in every meal and some between-meal snacks. I remain strong and healthy, with fantastic cholesterol and other blood levels. The hippies I encounter are constantly searching for some new organic or diet craze to cure their malaise and numerous physical and psychological issues. If I didn’t hate them so much I would tell them my secret.[/quote]

I am a lot like you with regards to health, it’s a gift. A lot of those folks at people’s and other health food nuts, had experienced serious illnesses before they took faith and refuge in alternative diets. Until you have walked in their shoes you don’t know.They may be screwed either way. And yes being hygiene challenged is often part of being a hippie, it wasn’t quite universal though.I Loved those hummus and avocado sandwiches with spouts and jack cheese.

Some of you might remember Jimbo working at People’s ? He was a really nice young man… and clean too.[/quote]

Believe me, I have heartfelt sympathy for someone with a legitimate medical issue. My beef is generally with people looking for salvation from a guru, crystals, pyramids, chakras, auras, or earth goddesses via fad health foods. I’ve seen otherwise normal and healthy people adopt a vegan, vegetarian, raw food, or organic everything and no red meat, [fill in the blank] and become generally unhealthy and with a good dose of the crazies. Most everyone here not afflicted knows someone too.

I’m all for balanced. I think too many people who get on these kicks lose that and, IMO, their health suffers.

For the .000000001% who might care we’ve been on what we call a modified Atkins diet for years. We look and feel great and our blood and other tests back that up. We don’t bother with consulting the book or anything like that. We try to eat a lot of veggies and we generally skip breads, pastas, sodas, and food out of a box.

For the guy who likes sausages, we do too. Have you tried http://www.tandhsausage.Jalapeñoalepeno and cheddar sausage!

As for Whole Foods, I guess a lot of people got upset when they learned the owner was a capitalist: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204251404574342170072865070.html
Which cracked me up because the prices should have tipped them off years ago. As for me, I think the owner is great and if there were a Whole Foods near me where I could get California grown produce instead of Mexico (especially tomatoes) I would buy them withouthesitationn even if they were expensive.

[faterikcartman]

[quote=Jacarandoso][quote=faterikcartman]Years ago a friend introduced me to People’s hippie Co-Op in OB. I carefully observed the general health, appearance, and smell of the hippies there and heard their exhortations to eat organic and raw foods. For years now, as a result of those observations, I have restricted my diet to one consisting only of products with at least ten ingredients I cannot pronounce or identify, cooked products, overly processed products, and those containing a reasonably high level preservatives, and meat, preferably red, included in every meal and some between-meal snacks. I remain strong and healthy, with fantastic cholesterol and other blood levels. The hippies I encounter are constantly searching for some new organic or diet craze to cure their malaise and numerous physical and psychological issues. If I didn’t hate them so much I would tell them my secret.[/quote]

I am a lot like you with regards to health, it’s a gift. A lot of those folks at people’s and other health food nuts, had experienced serious illnesses before they took faith and refuge in alternative diets. Until you have walked in their shoes you don’t know.They may be screwed either way. And yes being hygiene challenged is often part of being a hippie, it wasn’t quite universal though.I Loved those hummus and avocado sandwiches with spouts and jack cheese.

Some of you might remember Jimbo working at People’s ? He was a really nice young man… and clean too.[/quote]

Believe me, I have heartfelt sympathy for someone with a legitimate medical issue. My beef is generally with people looking for salvation from a guru, crystals, pyramids, chakras, auras, or earth goddesses via fad health foods. I’ve seen otherwise normal and healthy people adopt a vegan, vegetarian, raw food, or organic everything and no red meat, [fill in the blank] and become generally unhealthy and with a good dose of the crazies. Most everyone here not afflicted knows someone too.

I’m all for balanced. I think too many people who get on these kicks lose that and, IMO, their health suffers.

For the .000000001% who might care we’ve been on what we call a modified Atkins diet for years. We look and feel great and our blood and other tests back that up. We don’t bother with consulting the book or anything like that. We try to eat a lot of veggies and we generally skip breads, pastas, sodas, and food out of a box.

For the guy who likes sausages, we do too. Have you tried http://www.tandhsausage.Jalapeñoalepeno and cheddar sausage!

As for Whole Foods, I guess a lot of people got upset when they learned the owner was a capitalist: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204251404574342170072865070.html
Which cracked me up because the prices should have tipped them off years ago. As for me, I think the owner is great and if there were a Whole Foods near me where I could get California grown produce instead of Mexico (especially tomatoes) I would buy them withouthesitationn even if they were expensive.

[briansd1]

[quote=Jacarandoso]

I am a lot like you with regards to health, it’s a gift. A lot of those folks at people’s and other health food nuts, had experienced serious illnesses before they took faith and refuge in alternative diets. Until you have walked in their shoes you don’t know.They may be screwed either way. And yes being hygiene challenged is often part of being a hippie, it wasn’t quite universal though.I Loved those hummus and avocado sandwiches with spouts and jack cheese.

Some of you might remember Jimbo working at People’s ? He was a really nice young man… and clean too.[/quote]

Just because one eats at Jyoti Bahanga and smells like a Hari Krishna doesn’t mean that one is healthy.

Actually a lot of vegetarian foods is really bad because it’s full of gluten and fatty dairy.

Having had the opportunity to experience different cultures, I think that Western diets are very unhealthy because they were developed for areas that experience months of unheated cold each year. Sames goes with Northern Asian diets.

Today, we have central air and heat. So we need to eat accordingly. The problem is that food is culture more than nutrition. People really need to look at the science behind food.

[briansd1]

[quote=Jacarandoso]

I am a lot like you with regards to health, it’s a gift. A lot of those folks at people’s and other health food nuts, had experienced serious illnesses before they took faith and refuge in alternative diets. Until you have walked in their shoes you don’t know.They may be screwed either way. And yes being hygiene challenged is often part of being a hippie, it wasn’t quite universal though.I Loved those hummus and avocado sandwiches with spouts and jack cheese.

Some of you might remember Jimbo working at People’s ? He was a really nice young man… and clean too.[/quote]

Just because one eats at Jyoti Bahanga and smells like a Hari Krishna doesn’t mean that one is healthy.

Actually a lot of vegetarian foods is really bad because it’s full of gluten and fatty dairy.

Having had the opportunity to experience different cultures, I think that Western diets are very unhealthy because they were developed for areas that experience months of unheated cold each year. Sames goes with Northern Asian diets.

Today, we have central air and heat. So we need to eat accordingly. The problem is that food is culture more than nutrition. People really need to look at the science behind food.

[briansd1]

[quote=Jacarandoso]

I am a lot like you with regards to health, it’s a gift. A lot of those folks at people’s and other health food nuts, had experienced serious illnesses before they took faith and refuge in alternative diets. Until you have walked in their shoes you don’t know.They may be screwed either way. And yes being hygiene challenged is often part of being a hippie, it wasn’t quite universal though.I Loved those hummus and avocado sandwiches with spouts and jack cheese.

Some of you might remember Jimbo working at People’s ? He was a really nice young man… and clean too.[/quote]

Just because one eats at Jyoti Bahanga and smells like a Hari Krishna doesn’t mean that one is healthy.

Actually a lot of vegetarian foods is really bad because it’s full of gluten and fatty dairy.

Having had the opportunity to experience different cultures, I think that Western diets are very unhealthy because they were developed for areas that experience months of unheated cold each year. Sames goes with Northern Asian diets.

Today, we have central air and heat. So we need to eat accordingly. The problem is that food is culture more than nutrition. People really need to look at the science behind food.

[briansd1]

[quote=Jacarandoso]

I am a lot like you with regards to health, it’s a gift. A lot of those folks at people’s and other health food nuts, had experienced serious illnesses before they took faith and refuge in alternative diets. Until you have walked in their shoes you don’t know.They may be screwed either way. And yes being hygiene challenged is often part of being a hippie, it wasn’t quite universal though.I Loved those hummus and avocado sandwiches with spouts and jack cheese.

Some of you might remember Jimbo working at People’s ? He was a really nice young man… and clean too.[/quote]

Just because one eats at Jyoti Bahanga and smells like a Hari Krishna doesn’t mean that one is healthy.

Actually a lot of vegetarian foods is really bad because it’s full of gluten and fatty dairy.

Having had the opportunity to experience different cultures, I think that Western diets are very unhealthy because they were developed for areas that experience months of unheated cold each year. Sames goes with Northern Asian diets.

Today, we have central air and heat. So we need to eat accordingly. The problem is that food is culture more than nutrition. People really need to look at the science behind food.

[briansd1]

[quote=Jacarandoso]

I am a lot like you with regards to health, it’s a gift. A lot of those folks at people’s and other health food nuts, had experienced serious illnesses before they took faith and refuge in alternative diets. Until you have walked in their shoes you don’t know.They may be screwed either way. And yes being hygiene challenged is often part of being a hippie, it wasn’t quite universal though.I Loved those hummus and avocado sandwiches with spouts and jack cheese.

Some of you might remember Jimbo working at People’s ? He was a really nice young man… and clean too.[/quote]

Just because one eats at Jyoti Bahanga and smells like a Hari Krishna doesn’t mean that one is healthy.

Actually a lot of vegetarian foods is really bad because it’s full of gluten and fatty dairy.

Having had the opportunity to experience different cultures, I think that Western diets are very unhealthy because they were developed for areas that experience months of unheated cold each year. Sames goes with Northern Asian diets.

Today, we have central air and heat. So we need to eat accordingly. The problem is that food is culture more than nutrition. People really need to look at the science behind food.

[CardiffBaseball]

FatErik I have a good friend who went Vegan and had a lot of health issues. After about 15 years he’s apparently given up and is back eating meat. A lot of gut issues.

Like you I basically eat a somewhat Atkins style without really paying attention, but I need to stick it through this time. Luckily the biggest loser contest at the office motivation. I really don’t count calories or pay attention to what I am eating, and the diet is fairly self-regulating in that you are satiated enough not to have a 5000 calorie day. Do you know how much steak and sausage one must eat to have a day like that?

It’s not for everyone but when I cut the grains and sugars I feel lighter, more energetic etc. At a recent steakhouse family meal I just skipped over the bread. Looked good but once I start I go a little overboard and get that carb-coma feeling. So some veggies, salads etc. round out my day. Working well so far, and not following some specific plan makes things much simpler.

[CardiffBaseball]

FatErik I have a good friend who went Vegan and had a lot of health issues. After about 15 years he’s apparently given up and is back eating meat. A lot of gut issues.

Like you I basically eat a somewhat Atkins style without really paying attention, but I need to stick it through this time. Luckily the biggest loser contest at the office motivation. I really don’t count calories or pay attention to what I am eating, and the diet is fairly self-regulating in that you are satiated enough not to have a 5000 calorie day. Do you know how much steak and sausage one must eat to have a day like that?

It’s not for everyone but when I cut the grains and sugars I feel lighter, more energetic etc. At a recent steakhouse family meal I just skipped over the bread. Looked good but once I start I go a little overboard and get that carb-coma feeling. So some veggies, salads etc. round out my day. Working well so far, and not following some specific plan makes things much simpler.

[CardiffBaseball]

FatErik I have a good friend who went Vegan and had a lot of health issues. After about 15 years he’s apparently given up and is back eating meat. A lot of gut issues.

Like you I basically eat a somewhat Atkins style without really paying attention, but I need to stick it through this time. Luckily the biggest loser contest at the office motivation. I really don’t count calories or pay attention to what I am eating, and the diet is fairly self-regulating in that you are satiated enough not to have a 5000 calorie day. Do you know how much steak and sausage one must eat to have a day like that?

It’s not for everyone but when I cut the grains and sugars I feel lighter, more energetic etc. At a recent steakhouse family meal I just skipped over the bread. Looked good but once I start I go a little overboard and get that carb-coma feeling. So some veggies, salads etc. round out my day. Working well so far, and not following some specific plan makes things much simpler.

[CardiffBaseball]

FatErik I have a good friend who went Vegan and had a lot of health issues. After about 15 years he’s apparently given up and is back eating meat. A lot of gut issues.

Like you I basically eat a somewhat Atkins style without really paying attention, but I need to stick it through this time. Luckily the biggest loser contest at the office motivation. I really don’t count calories or pay attention to what I am eating, and the diet is fairly self-regulating in that you are satiated enough not to have a 5000 calorie day. Do you know how much steak and sausage one must eat to have a day like that?

It’s not for everyone but when I cut the grains and sugars I feel lighter, more energetic etc. At a recent steakhouse family meal I just skipped over the bread. Looked good but once I start I go a little overboard and get that carb-coma feeling. So some veggies, salads etc. round out my day. Working well so far, and not following some specific plan makes things much simpler.

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