Who won the Presidential debate? Comments as the Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates debate before the election.

[stockstradr]

I’m a liberal. No apologies. I’m voting for Obama.

However, I think Obama lost that debate…yet he lost it by a close margin; he didn’t lose big.

Obama had SO MUCH material to use to go direct attack mode on McCain, but Obama held back. And McCain put Obama on the ropes early and Obama couldn’t move off the ropes and found himself simply defending himself for much of the debate.

EXAMPLE: McCain was EFFECTIVE with his pork-barrel spending attack against Obama, and positioning himself (McCain) as fiscally conservative with voter’s tax dollars. Now that is a lie and totally absurd for a Republican who’s closely supported much of the Bush administration massive spending to claim he’s a fiscally conservative. But it doesn’t matter because McCain was very effective spinning that lie (McCain fiscal conservative, Obama pork barrel spender) during the debate.

[Aecetia]

I thought it was close, but Obama won because he sounds smarter than McCain. I did not say he is smarter, but perception is everything in politics. His suit was perfect- perfect fit, tie, the whole package. Obviously, Obama benefits from his Hollywood connections. McCain’s tie with stripes was not good for TV and it was too wide. Once again, I am not talking about substance, just perception. Neither of them truly spoke to my concerns. Both were well- rehearsed and it was very scripted.

[Aecetia]

I thought it was close, but Obama won because he sounds smarter than McCain. I did not say he is smarter, but perception is everything in politics. His suit was perfect- perfect fit, tie, the whole package. Obviously, Obama benefits from his Hollywood connections. McCain’s tie with stripes was not good for TV and it was too wide. Once again, I am not talking about substance, just perception. Neither of them truly spoke to my concerns. Both were well- rehearsed and it was very scripted.

[Aecetia]

I thought it was close, but Obama won because he sounds smarter than McCain. I did not say he is smarter, but perception is everything in politics. His suit was perfect- perfect fit, tie, the whole package. Obviously, Obama benefits from his Hollywood connections. McCain’s tie with stripes was not good for TV and it was too wide. Once again, I am not talking about substance, just perception. Neither of them truly spoke to my concerns. Both were well- rehearsed and it was very scripted.

[Aecetia]

I thought it was close, but Obama won because he sounds smarter than McCain. I did not say he is smarter, but perception is everything in politics. His suit was perfect- perfect fit, tie, the whole package. Obviously, Obama benefits from his Hollywood connections. McCain’s tie with stripes was not good for TV and it was too wide. Once again, I am not talking about substance, just perception. Neither of them truly spoke to my concerns. Both were well- rehearsed and it was very scripted.

[Aecetia]

I thought it was close, but Obama won because he sounds smarter than McCain. I did not say he is smarter, but perception is everything in politics. His suit was perfect- perfect fit, tie, the whole package. Obviously, Obama benefits from his Hollywood connections. McCain’s tie with stripes was not good for TV and it was too wide. Once again, I am not talking about substance, just perception. Neither of them truly spoke to my concerns. Both were well- rehearsed and it was very scripted.

[CAwireman]

Oh gee, someone opened up a thread on this.

I thought Obama held more of a presidential posture. He’s a far better speaker and easily grasps all the topics. I’d feel better if Obama respresented our country based upon his ability to communicate. Bush is an embarrassment. While I think all politicians are owned by big business and special interest, I feel that Obama is the lesser of two evils and is young enough to have not lost all touch with some honorable balance between reality and idealism. But, he is green. However, we need some youth to get us going in another direction. If he wins let’s hope he doesn’t fall into line with the tax and spend liberal stereotype.

(Did anyone notice the little bit of spit on Obama’s lower lip towards the end of the debate? Gross! You’d think someone would have let him know….)

Mcain is a long time committee politician. Having survived a war, survived 5 years in a prison camp, and possessing an unequaled up close and personal knowledge of the military, defense and defense spending, he’s without many peers in this area.
But let’s face it, republicans are about getting the rich richer at any cost. And, the Republican leaders don’t care if that means the elimation of the middle class. It surprises me how many middle class republicans don’t see this. Regardless of what Mcain says he’ll do, he’ll fall right in with the republicans and continue to feed the engine that is taking our country in the wrong direction.
If I’m incorrect and he actually intends to buck the system and try to get it on track, then great – if Obama loses, Mcain – go get em. But he doesn’t inspire confidence. When he talks, you want to tune him out. We’ve had enough of the empty republican suit for the last 8 years. While, Mcain would go a long way towards filling a suit that Bush has left empty, Mcain is a pro/heavy military supportor and will never admit that the decision to go into Iraq was a colossal error, or worse.

[CAwireman]

Oh gee, someone opened up a thread on this.

I thought Obama held more of a presidential posture. He’s a far better speaker and easily grasps all the topics. I’d feel better if Obama respresented our country based upon his ability to communicate. Bush is an embarrassment. While I think all politicians are owned by big business and special interest, I feel that Obama is the lesser of two evils and is young enough to have not lost all touch with some honorable balance between reality and idealism. But, he is green. However, we need some youth to get us going in another direction. If he wins let’s hope he doesn’t fall into line with the tax and spend liberal stereotype.

(Did anyone notice the little bit of spit on Obama’s lower lip towards the end of the debate? Gross! You’d think someone would have let him know….)

Mcain is a long time committee politician. Having survived a war, survived 5 years in a prison camp, and possessing an unequaled up close and personal knowledge of the military, defense and defense spending, he’s without many peers in this area.
But let’s face it, republicans are about getting the rich richer at any cost. And, the Republican leaders don’t care if that means the elimation of the middle class. It surprises me how many middle class republicans don’t see this. Regardless of what Mcain says he’ll do, he’ll fall right in with the republicans and continue to feed the engine that is taking our country in the wrong direction.
If I’m incorrect and he actually intends to buck the system and try to get it on track, then great – if Obama loses, Mcain – go get em. But he doesn’t inspire confidence. When he talks, you want to tune him out. We’ve had enough of the empty republican suit for the last 8 years. While, Mcain would go a long way towards filling a suit that Bush has left empty, Mcain is a pro/heavy military supportor and will never admit that the decision to go into Iraq was a colossal error, or worse.

[CAwireman]

Oh gee, someone opened up a thread on this.

I thought Obama held more of a presidential posture. He’s a far better speaker and easily grasps all the topics. I’d feel better if Obama respresented our country based upon his ability to communicate. Bush is an embarrassment. While I think all politicians are owned by big business and special interest, I feel that Obama is the lesser of two evils and is young enough to have not lost all touch with some honorable balance between reality and idealism. But, he is green. However, we need some youth to get us going in another direction. If he wins let’s hope he doesn’t fall into line with the tax and spend liberal stereotype.

(Did anyone notice the little bit of spit on Obama’s lower lip towards the end of the debate? Gross! You’d think someone would have let him know….)

Mcain is a long time committee politician. Having survived a war, survived 5 years in a prison camp, and possessing an unequaled up close and personal knowledge of the military, defense and defense spending, he’s without many peers in this area.
But let’s face it, republicans are about getting the rich richer at any cost. And, the Republican leaders don’t care if that means the elimation of the middle class. It surprises me how many middle class republicans don’t see this. Regardless of what Mcain says he’ll do, he’ll fall right in with the republicans and continue to feed the engine that is taking our country in the wrong direction.
If I’m incorrect and he actually intends to buck the system and try to get it on track, then great – if Obama loses, Mcain – go get em. But he doesn’t inspire confidence. When he talks, you want to tune him out. We’ve had enough of the empty republican suit for the last 8 years. While, Mcain would go a long way towards filling a suit that Bush has left empty, Mcain is a pro/heavy military supportor and will never admit that the decision to go into Iraq was a colossal error, or worse.

[CAwireman]

Oh gee, someone opened up a thread on this.

I thought Obama held more of a presidential posture. He’s a far better speaker and easily grasps all the topics. I’d feel better if Obama respresented our country based upon his ability to communicate. Bush is an embarrassment. While I think all politicians are owned by big business and special interest, I feel that Obama is the lesser of two evils and is young enough to have not lost all touch with some honorable balance between reality and idealism. But, he is green. However, we need some youth to get us going in another direction. If he wins let’s hope he doesn’t fall into line with the tax and spend liberal stereotype.

(Did anyone notice the little bit of spit on Obama’s lower lip towards the end of the debate? Gross! You’d think someone would have let him know….)

Mcain is a long time committee politician. Having survived a war, survived 5 years in a prison camp, and possessing an unequaled up close and personal knowledge of the military, defense and defense spending, he’s without many peers in this area.
But let’s face it, republicans are about getting the rich richer at any cost. And, the Republican leaders don’t care if that means the elimation of the middle class. It surprises me how many middle class republicans don’t see this. Regardless of what Mcain says he’ll do, he’ll fall right in with the republicans and continue to feed the engine that is taking our country in the wrong direction.
If I’m incorrect and he actually intends to buck the system and try to get it on track, then great – if Obama loses, Mcain – go get em. But he doesn’t inspire confidence. When he talks, you want to tune him out. We’ve had enough of the empty republican suit for the last 8 years. While, Mcain would go a long way towards filling a suit that Bush has left empty, Mcain is a pro/heavy military supportor and will never admit that the decision to go into Iraq was a colossal error, or worse.

[CAwireman]

Oh gee, someone opened up a thread on this.

I thought Obama held more of a presidential posture. He’s a far better speaker and easily grasps all the topics. I’d feel better if Obama respresented our country based upon his ability to communicate. Bush is an embarrassment. While I think all politicians are owned by big business and special interest, I feel that Obama is the lesser of two evils and is young enough to have not lost all touch with some honorable balance between reality and idealism. But, he is green. However, we need some youth to get us going in another direction. If he wins let’s hope he doesn’t fall into line with the tax and spend liberal stereotype.

(Did anyone notice the little bit of spit on Obama’s lower lip towards the end of the debate? Gross! You’d think someone would have let him know….)

Mcain is a long time committee politician. Having survived a war, survived 5 years in a prison camp, and possessing an unequaled up close and personal knowledge of the military, defense and defense spending, he’s without many peers in this area.
But let’s face it, republicans are about getting the rich richer at any cost. And, the Republican leaders don’t care if that means the elimation of the middle class. It surprises me how many middle class republicans don’t see this. Regardless of what Mcain says he’ll do, he’ll fall right in with the republicans and continue to feed the engine that is taking our country in the wrong direction.
If I’m incorrect and he actually intends to buck the system and try to get it on track, then great – if Obama loses, Mcain – go get em. But he doesn’t inspire confidence. When he talks, you want to tune him out. We’ve had enough of the empty republican suit for the last 8 years. While, Mcain would go a long way towards filling a suit that Bush has left empty, Mcain is a pro/heavy military supportor and will never admit that the decision to go into Iraq was a colossal error, or worse.

[34f3f3f]

McCain had the upperhand in foreign affaires, which is to be expected, and his arguments were strong. I think just walking out of Iraq without a phased withdrawal could be dangerous, but McCain’s reasons for staying in Iraq are still driven more by military instincts than politics, such as ‘we will win this war’, rather than we made a mistake and it is our responsibility to the Iraqi people to clear it up. I also think he is right in that some sort of precondition needs to be set before meeting with the leaders of states such as Iran. But Obama may have been rebelling against what he sees as preconditions that are belligerent, and not conducive to dialogue. Maybe he believes in that old expression, keep your friends close, but your enemies closer. Obama made veiled references to the cost of the Iraq war, which hasn’t received the same publicity as the current financial crisis. So a big boost to him there.

Neither touched on the current financial crisis, which is wise given the number of people who were duped into believing the Iraq war was the right thing to do.

On health care, Obama wins hands down, but that is my own personal bias. The US has possibly the worst health care system in the developed world. I am sorry if that displeases anyone, but I feel very strongly that that is the case, and with some credentials to back it up.

On the issue of how their personas come across, Obama comes across as being perhaps a little naive that being nice to McCain will work in his favor. He is calm, but every now and then pauses, and seems a little unsure of himself. His answers were rehearsed, but only a fool is going to attempt to improvise in a presidential debate. McCain’s body language really lets him down. He is awkward, faltering, nervous, which all puts the spotlight on his age. He has an almost Churchillian way about him. One thing the media did not pick up on was he rarely if at all looked at his opponent. This made him look arrogant, and some will say he is a racist.

So in conclusion, no really clear winners but youth and judgement, may just have had the edge on experience and tradition.

[34f3f3f]

McCain had the upperhand in foreign affaires, which is to be expected, and his arguments were strong. I think just walking out of Iraq without a phased withdrawal could be dangerous, but McCain’s reasons for staying in Iraq are still driven more by military instincts than politics, such as ‘we will win this war’, rather than we made a mistake and it is our responsibility to the Iraqi people to clear it up. I also think he is right in that some sort of precondition needs to be set before meeting with the leaders of states such as Iran. But Obama may have been rebelling against what he sees as preconditions that are belligerent, and not conducive to dialogue. Maybe he believes in that old expression, keep your friends close, but your enemies closer. Obama made veiled references to the cost of the Iraq war, which hasn’t received the same publicity as the current financial crisis. So a big boost to him there.

Neither touched on the current financial crisis, which is wise given the number of people who were duped into believing the Iraq war was the right thing to do.

On health care, Obama wins hands down, but that is my own personal bias. The US has possibly the worst health care system in the developed world. I am sorry if that displeases anyone, but I feel very strongly that that is the case, and with some credentials to back it up.

On the issue of how their personas come across, Obama comes across as being perhaps a little naive that being nice to McCain will work in his favor. He is calm, but every now and then pauses, and seems a little unsure of himself. His answers were rehearsed, but only a fool is going to attempt to improvise in a presidential debate. McCain’s body language really lets him down. He is awkward, faltering, nervous, which all puts the spotlight on his age. He has an almost Churchillian way about him. One thing the media did not pick up on was he rarely if at all looked at his opponent. This made him look arrogant, and some will say he is a racist.

So in conclusion, no really clear winners but youth and judgement, may just have had the edge on experience and tradition.

[34f3f3f]

McCain had the upperhand in foreign affaires, which is to be expected, and his arguments were strong. I think just walking out of Iraq without a phased withdrawal could be dangerous, but McCain’s reasons for staying in Iraq are still driven more by military instincts than politics, such as ‘we will win this war’, rather than we made a mistake and it is our responsibility to the Iraqi people to clear it up. I also think he is right in that some sort of precondition needs to be set before meeting with the leaders of states such as Iran. But Obama may have been rebelling against what he sees as preconditions that are belligerent, and not conducive to dialogue. Maybe he believes in that old expression, keep your friends close, but your enemies closer. Obama made veiled references to the cost of the Iraq war, which hasn’t received the same publicity as the current financial crisis. So a big boost to him there.

Neither touched on the current financial crisis, which is wise given the number of people who were duped into believing the Iraq war was the right thing to do.

On health care, Obama wins hands down, but that is my own personal bias. The US has possibly the worst health care system in the developed world. I am sorry if that displeases anyone, but I feel very strongly that that is the case, and with some credentials to back it up.

On the issue of how their personas come across, Obama comes across as being perhaps a little naive that being nice to McCain will work in his favor. He is calm, but every now and then pauses, and seems a little unsure of himself. His answers were rehearsed, but only a fool is going to attempt to improvise in a presidential debate. McCain’s body language really lets him down. He is awkward, faltering, nervous, which all puts the spotlight on his age. He has an almost Churchillian way about him. One thing the media did not pick up on was he rarely if at all looked at his opponent. This made him look arrogant, and some will say he is a racist.

So in conclusion, no really clear winners but youth and judgement, may just have had the edge on experience and tradition.

[34f3f3f]

McCain had the upperhand in foreign affaires, which is to be expected, and his arguments were strong. I think just walking out of Iraq without a phased withdrawal could be dangerous, but McCain’s reasons for staying in Iraq are still driven more by military instincts than politics, such as ‘we will win this war’, rather than we made a mistake and it is our responsibility to the Iraqi people to clear it up. I also think he is right in that some sort of precondition needs to be set before meeting with the leaders of states such as Iran. But Obama may have been rebelling against what he sees as preconditions that are belligerent, and not conducive to dialogue. Maybe he believes in that old expression, keep your friends close, but your enemies closer. Obama made veiled references to the cost of the Iraq war, which hasn’t received the same publicity as the current financial crisis. So a big boost to him there.

Neither touched on the current financial crisis, which is wise given the number of people who were duped into believing the Iraq war was the right thing to do.

On health care, Obama wins hands down, but that is my own personal bias. The US has possibly the worst health care system in the developed world. I am sorry if that displeases anyone, but I feel very strongly that that is the case, and with some credentials to back it up.

On the issue of how their personas come across, Obama comes across as being perhaps a little naive that being nice to McCain will work in his favor. He is calm, but every now and then pauses, and seems a little unsure of himself. His answers were rehearsed, but only a fool is going to attempt to improvise in a presidential debate. McCain’s body language really lets him down. He is awkward, faltering, nervous, which all puts the spotlight on his age. He has an almost Churchillian way about him. One thing the media did not pick up on was he rarely if at all looked at his opponent. This made him look arrogant, and some will say he is a racist.

So in conclusion, no really clear winners but youth and judgement, may just have had the edge on experience and tradition.

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