What is patriotism? (An email I wrote in response to a swipe from a friends relative)

[barnaby33]

The point is that the game is rigged against the little guy, but lets not make it worse. If people got off their asses and wrote their senators this deal would be dead in its tracks.

The point is that any kind of democracy requires informed citizens, not consumers.

The point is its theft, pretty plain and simple.

The point is that things like this are allowed to occur because people don’t raise their voices.

How many points do you need?

Josh

[cr]

Josh – I agree with your arguments, but fail to see how impeaching Bush will ally senators, representatives, and other elected or appointed government officials with the ideals that most of us on here generally believe are right for the economy, and right morally.

You’d be better off starting a grass roots third party and one by one take over house and senate seats, and get rid of career politicians.

There are plenty of people who’d support that.

As I said, do you think any other president or candidate would not have signed it? The problem is beyond GW.

[cr]

Josh – I agree with your arguments, but fail to see how impeaching Bush will ally senators, representatives, and other elected or appointed government officials with the ideals that most of us on here generally believe are right for the economy, and right morally.

You’d be better off starting a grass roots third party and one by one take over house and senate seats, and get rid of career politicians.

There are plenty of people who’d support that.

As I said, do you think any other president or candidate would not have signed it? The problem is beyond GW.

[cr]

Josh – I agree with your arguments, but fail to see how impeaching Bush will ally senators, representatives, and other elected or appointed government officials with the ideals that most of us on here generally believe are right for the economy, and right morally.

You’d be better off starting a grass roots third party and one by one take over house and senate seats, and get rid of career politicians.

There are plenty of people who’d support that.

As I said, do you think any other president or candidate would not have signed it? The problem is beyond GW.

[cr]

Josh – I agree with your arguments, but fail to see how impeaching Bush will ally senators, representatives, and other elected or appointed government officials with the ideals that most of us on here generally believe are right for the economy, and right morally.

You’d be better off starting a grass roots third party and one by one take over house and senate seats, and get rid of career politicians.

There are plenty of people who’d support that.

As I said, do you think any other president or candidate would not have signed it? The problem is beyond GW.

[cr]

Josh – I agree with your arguments, but fail to see how impeaching Bush will ally senators, representatives, and other elected or appointed government officials with the ideals that most of us on here generally believe are right for the economy, and right morally.

You’d be better off starting a grass roots third party and one by one take over house and senate seats, and get rid of career politicians.

There are plenty of people who’d support that.

As I said, do you think any other president or candidate would not have signed it? The problem is beyond GW.

[barnaby33]

Certainly the problem is systemic. We have created a gargantuan financial system that nobody understands, underpinned by a legal system very few understand and forced poorly educated people into investing their money into it.

The reason why its worth the attempt is that GWB signed off on the deal. The clearest way to say no mas is to go after the guy at the top and make an example of him.

Do I think it will happen, not a chance in hell. Do I think it will get Congress/Presidents attention, maybe. If enough people take 30 seconds to read the petition, 10 minutes to read some commentary on the issue and another minute to sign the petition, back room deals that screw all of us, especially savers can be stopped. This is still a democracy as long as we act like it.

Josh

[barnaby33]

Certainly the problem is systemic. We have created a gargantuan financial system that nobody understands, underpinned by a legal system very few understand and forced poorly educated people into investing their money into it.

The reason why its worth the attempt is that GWB signed off on the deal. The clearest way to say no mas is to go after the guy at the top and make an example of him.

Do I think it will happen, not a chance in hell. Do I think it will get Congress/Presidents attention, maybe. If enough people take 30 seconds to read the petition, 10 minutes to read some commentary on the issue and another minute to sign the petition, back room deals that screw all of us, especially savers can be stopped. This is still a democracy as long as we act like it.

Josh

[barnaby33]

Certainly the problem is systemic. We have created a gargantuan financial system that nobody understands, underpinned by a legal system very few understand and forced poorly educated people into investing their money into it.

The reason why its worth the attempt is that GWB signed off on the deal. The clearest way to say no mas is to go after the guy at the top and make an example of him.

Do I think it will happen, not a chance in hell. Do I think it will get Congress/Presidents attention, maybe. If enough people take 30 seconds to read the petition, 10 minutes to read some commentary on the issue and another minute to sign the petition, back room deals that screw all of us, especially savers can be stopped. This is still a democracy as long as we act like it.

Josh

[barnaby33]

Certainly the problem is systemic. We have created a gargantuan financial system that nobody understands, underpinned by a legal system very few understand and forced poorly educated people into investing their money into it.

The reason why its worth the attempt is that GWB signed off on the deal. The clearest way to say no mas is to go after the guy at the top and make an example of him.

Do I think it will happen, not a chance in hell. Do I think it will get Congress/Presidents attention, maybe. If enough people take 30 seconds to read the petition, 10 minutes to read some commentary on the issue and another minute to sign the petition, back room deals that screw all of us, especially savers can be stopped. This is still a democracy as long as we act like it.

Josh

[barnaby33]

Certainly the problem is systemic. We have created a gargantuan financial system that nobody understands, underpinned by a legal system very few understand and forced poorly educated people into investing their money into it.

The reason why its worth the attempt is that GWB signed off on the deal. The clearest way to say no mas is to go after the guy at the top and make an example of him.

Do I think it will happen, not a chance in hell. Do I think it will get Congress/Presidents attention, maybe. If enough people take 30 seconds to read the petition, 10 minutes to read some commentary on the issue and another minute to sign the petition, back room deals that screw all of us, especially savers can be stopped. This is still a democracy as long as we act like it.

Josh

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