What I like about Donald Trump

[spdrun]

Or someone on his campaign team got him hooked on coke and meth. “Yep, Don, try this, this will keep you awake for the debate.” One can hope, right?

[outtamojo]

[quote=bearishgurl]From his purple-tie rah-rah video after the Nevada caucus, Trump appears to have lost a few pounds in recent weeks. It’s possible that he has gotten a clue and is toting a personal trainer/dietition in his entourage.[/quote]

Lol- me personally I don’t ascribe moral implications to being overweight.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=flu] . . . The biggest problem I have with Trump isn’t Trump himself. It’s with a good percentage of his supporters that are itching to ship people who aren’t white “back home”.[/quote]flu, I can tell you from direct experience that “a good percentage of (Trump’s) supporters” are “Hispanic.” Meaning 100% Hispanic with relatives still living in MX. Many of this subset of Hispanics are boomers and older, who grew up in the US and were schooled in SD County. This group of mostly longtime homeowners are sick and tired of the (essentially) open borders allowing Mexican Nationals to cross the border at nine months pregnant with no questions asked, only to drop their babies on US soil within 72 hours of arrival (with witnesses, of course). It is not uncommon for Mexican Nationals to use “professionally manufactured” fake ID’s (using identities gleaned from a deceased American’s SSN record) and bogus US addresses (often of long vacant, boarded-up homes) to successfully obtain access to US health clinics and food banks and even successfully obtain USDA food aid (SNAP)! (Not sure if an “illegal immigrant” can successfully get cash aid (TANF) for their “anchor baby” after it is born …. this might be problematic for them because it involves oversight from a human social worker who has access to state computer systems.) In addition, I believe Mexican Nationals can now legally obtain CA Driver Licenses WITHOUT a US address, but of course it is not too difficult at most for them to use the US address of a relative to apply for their DL and use their relative’s CA-tagged vehicle to take their driving exam for their initial license. However, their personal vehicles are licensed in MX so they don’t have to provide “proof of insurance” to drive here. In the states of Baja CA, MX the legal liability limits are about $3K per vehicle and it is very likely that most Mexican drivers don’t even carry that. In some parts of south county (SD), up to 75% of the vehicles on the street every day sport MX tags. Long-naturalized citizens who came to the US legally (of Mexican and Filipino descent) and those who were born here long ago detest our “open borders” and are very vocal about it. If Trump wins the repub nomination, I expect to see “Trump for President – Let’s Make America Great Again” signs in front yards on every block around here. LOTS of Mexican-Americans (esp the older set) watch FOX News every day. I think we’re all going to be shocked when we see a LOT of precincts of SD South County turn from “blue” to “red” or “purple” (since the last general election 3.5 years ago). Let’s refer back to this thread in November, shall we?

In sum, Trump supporters are not all “white rednecks” and besides, “non-hispanic whites” are in a minority as a group in the US. They may still be the biggest minority, but nonetheless, I doubt their numbers are >50% of the US population. In addition, a percentage of “white-appearing persons” in the US are of mixed heritage or are European or Canadian immigrants or dual citizens and many may not even identify as “white” on paper.

[quote=flu]And I’m not even talking about illegal aliens. There’s this current of backlash against tech workers, specifically Indians and to a lesser extent, asians. Part of this is animosity against H1-B programs. The problem is many of these Trump supporters blame indians and to a lesser extent asians as the source of all their joblesness problem. I don’t get it.

This country really haven’t “progressed” as are misled to believe. When in doubt, when your in a financial rut, blame someone that isn’t white on all of your problems…[/quote]flu, the discontent among US citizens who majored in tech and haven’t been able to land a good job in their fields because some employers would prefer H1b hires are of ALL races, not just “white.” Think about it, flu. Do you know of any other country who “gives away” the bulk of their most coveted, higher-paying jobs with an actual “career path” to “foreigners” over their own citizens?

I DO believe that there are not enough American medical school graduates to fill MD positions for some medical sub-specialties in the US. But I don’t believe for a minute that there are not enough qualified engineering graduates of all kinds to fill engineering positions in US companies with a presence on US soil. Yes, even all the available engineering openings in SV at any given time.

[FlyerInHi]

This article explains it pretty well.
That makes very good sense because conversative natural reaction to everything is “shock and awe”, doubling down and tripling down to defeat the opponents.

Yes, Polarization Is Asymmetric—and Conservatives Are Worse
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/06/yes-polarization-is-asymmetric-and-conservatives-are-worse/373044/

[bearishgurl]

[quote=outtamojo][quote=bearishgurl]From his purple-tie rah-rah video after the Nevada caucus, Trump appears to have lost a few pounds in recent weeks. It’s possible that he has gotten a clue and is toting a personal trainer/dietition in his entourage.[/quote]

Lol- me personally I don’t ascribe moral implications to being overweight.[/quote]Who said anything about morality? I’m just worried about possible health problems if he should be elected POTUS. That’s a pretty stressful position … especially with his agenda. Trump is no spring chicken….

[scaredyclassic]

the constitution requires the potus be min. 35 years old, i think. if they could have seen how old people are taking over the land, maybe they would have put a max. it’s hilarious to think about a 35 year old actually getting elected. would look so young nowadays.

[enron_by_the_sea]

[quote=bearishgurl]flu, I can tell you from direct experience that “a good percentage of (Trump’s) supporters” are “Hispanic.” [/quote]

Sorry this is BS! Not supported by any data!

If you care about real data, then here it is, fresh from today:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/02/25/hispanic-poll-donald-trump-marco-rubio-ted-cruz-hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders/80881576/

[bearishgurl]

[quote=scaredyclassic]the constitution requires the potus be min. 35 years old, i think. if they could have seen how old people are taking over the land, maybe they would have put a max. it’s hilarious to think about a 35 year old actually getting elected. would look so young nowadays.[/quote]I believe JFK was only 35 when he was elected POTUS.

edit: He was 44 years of age. Obama was also only 47 years old at the time of his inauguration.

[FlyerInHi]

BG, trump won the Hispanic vote within the Republican Party in Nevada. But Hispanic republicans are a very small portion. Hillary will win Nevada because of Hispanics and blacks.

20% of Hispanics identity as whites. That’s because among hispanics, white is higher status. All you have to do is watch telenovelas to see that. Subliminal and overt racism within Hispanics. I have friend who says he’s Italian, but I know he’s Mexican because of his last name; and he pretends not to understand Spanish. He lied about his background and can’t escape the lie.

My observation is that immigrants of all races who are hoomers or older and came earlier, tend to side with Whites because Whites were historically higher status. Survival instincts cause humans in ingratiate with the higher status/power.

Since globalization took hold in the 90s and other countries became wealthier and had access to the same consumer products we had, the attitudes changed. Immigrants who come here with an education and some money don’t view Whites with the same deference of the past. They see themselves more as global citizens who take advantage of global opportunities (more like an American expat who works in Brazil or China).

American Whites better learn the ways of a globalized world if they are to thrive. Discontent won’t solve anything.

People’s feelings about race, power, status can be exploited easily. Whenever there is a shift in politics and economics that upset the status quo people feel discontent, never mind that they should be happy because the tides lift all boats.

The whole Southern Strategy was about discontent at the time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

[bearishgurl]

[quote=FlyerInHi] . . . Hispanic republicans are a very small portion. Hillary will win Nevada because of Hispanics and blacks.[/quote]Don’t be so sure about that, FIH. There is still time to re-register for the primary election in CA and the general election in NV. It is too soon to tell what will happen.

[FlyerInHi]

BG, I think Trump will get the nomination because of “discontent” among Republicans, but the won’t win the general election. He will lose worse than Romney.

Not sure if he will get the support of the Republican establishment, but if he doesn’t he won’t win for sure because he doesn’t have an organization. He’s too stingy, and not as rich as he says, to build an organization.

Romney’s candidacy is an interesting comparison because it was based on discontent on the Republican side. Romney and his organization were convinced they would win like Reagan won because Obama (like Carter) was just a one-off president because of Iraq (Watergate in Carter’s case). The Republicans were shocked that Obama was even elected. They thought that Romney would correct the arc of history… but unfortunately for them, demographics shifted. Trump is now discontent amplified.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=FlyerInHi]. . . Trump is now discontent amplified.[/quote]This is precisely why Election 2016 is a “new day,” FIH. This country has a lot more serious “issues” today than it did in 2008, in spite of the “mortgage meltdown” looming at the time.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=enron_by_the_sea][quote=bearishgurl]flu, I can tell you from direct experience that “a good percentage of (Trump’s) supporters” are “Hispanic.” [/quote]

Sorry this is BS! Not supported by any data!

If you care about real data, then here it is, fresh from today:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/02/25/hispanic-poll-donald-trump-marco-rubio-ted-cruz-hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders/80881576/
[/quote]I saw your article re: the USA Today poll and will read it. I must have a pretty “vociferous” group of boomers in my little “microcosm” just nine miles from the Int’l border, lol …

We haven’t yet seen how the repub candidates will fare in TX and FL (which both have large Hispanic populations).

And btw, I’m not a registered Republican and haven’t yet made up my mind who I will vote for in the primary … or even if I will re-register to do so.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=bearishgurl][quote=FlyerInHi]. . . Trump is now discontent amplified.[/quote]This is precisely why Election 2016 is a “new day,” FIH. This country has a lot more serious “issues” today than it did in 2008, in spite of the “mortgage meltdown” looming at the time.[/quote]

What more serious issues other than manufactured discontent?

GDP, unemployment, house values… are all doing well. Home Depot and Lowes just reported higher sales.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=bearishgurl] I must have a pretty “vociferous” group of boomers in my little “microcosm” just nine miles from the Int’l border, lol …[/quote]

Look further East to the McMansions of Chula Vista. Lots of Mexican dual citizens who paid cash for their houses. They go back and forth and have business in Mexico. They don’t appreciate Trump saying Mexico will pay for the wall.

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