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October 27, 2010 at 12:07 PM #624367October 27, 2010 at 1:27 PM #623321CoronitaParticipant
[quote=weberlin][quote=flu]Off topic. It’s 11:57 AM..Why do I get the sneaking feeling, the markets are going to turn around in the last hour and end break even or maybe even a little positive today after initially falling 100 pts this morning. Seems like sentiment is “we don’t give a sh!t the economy is bad, we’re going to rally anyway”… Bubble forming again?[/quote]
I don’t know about the break even at the end of the day thing, but I’m 100% with you on “Bubble forming again”[/quote]
Well nasdaq did close positive…Dow recovered, but still neg….Sigh..bubblecious.
October 27, 2010 at 1:27 PM #623405CoronitaParticipant[quote=weberlin][quote=flu]Off topic. It’s 11:57 AM..Why do I get the sneaking feeling, the markets are going to turn around in the last hour and end break even or maybe even a little positive today after initially falling 100 pts this morning. Seems like sentiment is “we don’t give a sh!t the economy is bad, we’re going to rally anyway”… Bubble forming again?[/quote]
I don’t know about the break even at the end of the day thing, but I’m 100% with you on “Bubble forming again”[/quote]
Well nasdaq did close positive…Dow recovered, but still neg….Sigh..bubblecious.
October 27, 2010 at 1:27 PM #623969CoronitaParticipant[quote=weberlin][quote=flu]Off topic. It’s 11:57 AM..Why do I get the sneaking feeling, the markets are going to turn around in the last hour and end break even or maybe even a little positive today after initially falling 100 pts this morning. Seems like sentiment is “we don’t give a sh!t the economy is bad, we’re going to rally anyway”… Bubble forming again?[/quote]
I don’t know about the break even at the end of the day thing, but I’m 100% with you on “Bubble forming again”[/quote]
Well nasdaq did close positive…Dow recovered, but still neg….Sigh..bubblecious.
October 27, 2010 at 1:27 PM #624096CoronitaParticipant[quote=weberlin][quote=flu]Off topic. It’s 11:57 AM..Why do I get the sneaking feeling, the markets are going to turn around in the last hour and end break even or maybe even a little positive today after initially falling 100 pts this morning. Seems like sentiment is “we don’t give a sh!t the economy is bad, we’re going to rally anyway”… Bubble forming again?[/quote]
I don’t know about the break even at the end of the day thing, but I’m 100% with you on “Bubble forming again”[/quote]
Well nasdaq did close positive…Dow recovered, but still neg….Sigh..bubblecious.
October 27, 2010 at 1:27 PM #624412CoronitaParticipant[quote=weberlin][quote=flu]Off topic. It’s 11:57 AM..Why do I get the sneaking feeling, the markets are going to turn around in the last hour and end break even or maybe even a little positive today after initially falling 100 pts this morning. Seems like sentiment is “we don’t give a sh!t the economy is bad, we’re going to rally anyway”… Bubble forming again?[/quote]
I don’t know about the break even at the end of the day thing, but I’m 100% with you on “Bubble forming again”[/quote]
Well nasdaq did close positive…Dow recovered, but still neg….Sigh..bubblecious.
October 27, 2010 at 1:44 PM #623346enron_by_the_seaParticipant[quote=weberlin]
I don’t know about the break even at the end of the day thing, but I’m 100% with you on “Bubble forming again”[/quote]Historically markets (are manipulated to) do well in the third year of a presidential term.
October 27, 2010 at 1:44 PM #623430enron_by_the_seaParticipant[quote=weberlin]
I don’t know about the break even at the end of the day thing, but I’m 100% with you on “Bubble forming again”[/quote]Historically markets (are manipulated to) do well in the third year of a presidential term.
October 27, 2010 at 1:44 PM #623994enron_by_the_seaParticipant[quote=weberlin]
I don’t know about the break even at the end of the day thing, but I’m 100% with you on “Bubble forming again”[/quote]Historically markets (are manipulated to) do well in the third year of a presidential term.
October 27, 2010 at 1:44 PM #624121enron_by_the_seaParticipant[quote=weberlin]
I don’t know about the break even at the end of the day thing, but I’m 100% with you on “Bubble forming again”[/quote]Historically markets (are manipulated to) do well in the third year of a presidential term.
October 27, 2010 at 1:44 PM #624437enron_by_the_seaParticipant[quote=weberlin]
I don’t know about the break even at the end of the day thing, but I’m 100% with you on “Bubble forming again”[/quote]Historically markets (are manipulated to) do well in the third year of a presidential term.
October 27, 2010 at 1:46 PM #623351(former)FormerSanDieganParticipant[quote=weberlin]
I still don’t get it. If only a handful of companies were performing well, this might make sense to me. In addition to Ford’s record profits, Google had a smashing 3rd quarter that led to a 10% jump. The success of individual companies does not surprise me. But, the Dow is up 3% in Oct. and 6% over the last 3 months. NASDAQ? 5% and 10% respectively. How can these ‘broad’ index measurements perform so well in light of little good news about the current performance and future of the economy?
[/quote]The indexes are simply collections of these individual companies. It is more than a few companies outperforming expectations.
Take the Dow. IBM is one of the Dow stocks. IBM accounts for about 9.5% of the movement in the DJIA. From the end of August to today IBM is up about 15%, partly due to anticipated good earnings which were released in mid October.
The following 9 companies make up 50% of the weighting in the DJIA:
IBM
3M
Chevron
McDonalds
Caterpillar
United Technologies
Boeing
ExxonMobil
Johnson & JohnsonIf these companies are doing well, the index will go up.
Similarly, the following companies make up 50% of the weighting og the QQQQ ETF, which tracks the NASDAQ.
Apple Inc.
QUALCOMM Inc.
Microsoft Corp.
Google Inc. (Cl A)
Oracle Corp. ORCL
Gilead Sciences Inc.
Research In Motion Ltd.
Cisco Systems Inc.
Teva Pharmaceutical Industries Ltd.
Intel Corp. INTC
Amgen Inc.
Amazon.com Inc.If these comapnies are meeting/exceeding earnings, it will drive the index.
October 27, 2010 at 1:46 PM #623435(former)FormerSanDieganParticipant[quote=weberlin]
I still don’t get it. If only a handful of companies were performing well, this might make sense to me. In addition to Ford’s record profits, Google had a smashing 3rd quarter that led to a 10% jump. The success of individual companies does not surprise me. But, the Dow is up 3% in Oct. and 6% over the last 3 months. NASDAQ? 5% and 10% respectively. How can these ‘broad’ index measurements perform so well in light of little good news about the current performance and future of the economy?
[/quote]The indexes are simply collections of these individual companies. It is more than a few companies outperforming expectations.
Take the Dow. IBM is one of the Dow stocks. IBM accounts for about 9.5% of the movement in the DJIA. From the end of August to today IBM is up about 15%, partly due to anticipated good earnings which were released in mid October.
The following 9 companies make up 50% of the weighting in the DJIA:
IBM
3M
Chevron
McDonalds
Caterpillar
United Technologies
Boeing
ExxonMobil
Johnson & JohnsonIf these companies are doing well, the index will go up.
Similarly, the following companies make up 50% of the weighting og the QQQQ ETF, which tracks the NASDAQ.
Apple Inc.
QUALCOMM Inc.
Microsoft Corp.
Google Inc. (Cl A)
Oracle Corp. ORCL
Gilead Sciences Inc.
Research In Motion Ltd.
Cisco Systems Inc.
Teva Pharmaceutical Industries Ltd.
Intel Corp. INTC
Amgen Inc.
Amazon.com Inc.If these comapnies are meeting/exceeding earnings, it will drive the index.
October 27, 2010 at 1:46 PM #623999(former)FormerSanDieganParticipant[quote=weberlin]
I still don’t get it. If only a handful of companies were performing well, this might make sense to me. In addition to Ford’s record profits, Google had a smashing 3rd quarter that led to a 10% jump. The success of individual companies does not surprise me. But, the Dow is up 3% in Oct. and 6% over the last 3 months. NASDAQ? 5% and 10% respectively. How can these ‘broad’ index measurements perform so well in light of little good news about the current performance and future of the economy?
[/quote]The indexes are simply collections of these individual companies. It is more than a few companies outperforming expectations.
Take the Dow. IBM is one of the Dow stocks. IBM accounts for about 9.5% of the movement in the DJIA. From the end of August to today IBM is up about 15%, partly due to anticipated good earnings which were released in mid October.
The following 9 companies make up 50% of the weighting in the DJIA:
IBM
3M
Chevron
McDonalds
Caterpillar
United Technologies
Boeing
ExxonMobil
Johnson & JohnsonIf these companies are doing well, the index will go up.
Similarly, the following companies make up 50% of the weighting og the QQQQ ETF, which tracks the NASDAQ.
Apple Inc.
QUALCOMM Inc.
Microsoft Corp.
Google Inc. (Cl A)
Oracle Corp. ORCL
Gilead Sciences Inc.
Research In Motion Ltd.
Cisco Systems Inc.
Teva Pharmaceutical Industries Ltd.
Intel Corp. INTC
Amgen Inc.
Amazon.com Inc.If these comapnies are meeting/exceeding earnings, it will drive the index.
October 27, 2010 at 1:46 PM #624126(former)FormerSanDieganParticipant[quote=weberlin]
I still don’t get it. If only a handful of companies were performing well, this might make sense to me. In addition to Ford’s record profits, Google had a smashing 3rd quarter that led to a 10% jump. The success of individual companies does not surprise me. But, the Dow is up 3% in Oct. and 6% over the last 3 months. NASDAQ? 5% and 10% respectively. How can these ‘broad’ index measurements perform so well in light of little good news about the current performance and future of the economy?
[/quote]The indexes are simply collections of these individual companies. It is more than a few companies outperforming expectations.
Take the Dow. IBM is one of the Dow stocks. IBM accounts for about 9.5% of the movement in the DJIA. From the end of August to today IBM is up about 15%, partly due to anticipated good earnings which were released in mid October.
The following 9 companies make up 50% of the weighting in the DJIA:
IBM
3M
Chevron
McDonalds
Caterpillar
United Technologies
Boeing
ExxonMobil
Johnson & JohnsonIf these companies are doing well, the index will go up.
Similarly, the following companies make up 50% of the weighting og the QQQQ ETF, which tracks the NASDAQ.
Apple Inc.
QUALCOMM Inc.
Microsoft Corp.
Google Inc. (Cl A)
Oracle Corp. ORCL
Gilead Sciences Inc.
Research In Motion Ltd.
Cisco Systems Inc.
Teva Pharmaceutical Industries Ltd.
Intel Corp. INTC
Amgen Inc.
Amazon.com Inc.If these comapnies are meeting/exceeding earnings, it will drive the index.
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