Well….How Are We Going To Profit From This Mess

[bearishgurl]

[quote=scaredyclassic][quote=utcsox]With Republicans control both the Presidency and the Congress, major tax reform is highly likely. Check out this tool that Tax Foundation made on how would the Trump proposed tax plans would effect you bottom line.

http://taxfoundation.org/blog/how-would-trump-and-clinton-tax-plans-affect-your-taxes%5B/quote%5D

3 lousy grand.[/quote]That’s better than a kick in the a$$, scaredy. I take it you will be “better off” under a Trump Administration than you currently are. Don’t knock it.

[njtosd]

[quote=scaredyclassic]only betas read poetry, probably to impress girls.

go long on harley davidsons and mancave accesdories.

short hipsters.[/quote]

Thanks for the nice response and your return to the moral high ground.

My husband is 6’2″ and I can’t get my arms all the way around him at the chest (and I’m 5’6″). He was blessed with a football player body and puts on muscle almost effortlessly. It pisses me off. He was the first person to convince me to read poetry. He also likes graphic design, science and switching engines in and out of cars. Women know that men are many things because they always want to tell us about their secret (forbidden) interests – (i.e. poetry or similar). I’ve never heard a woman decide not to go out with someone because he liked opera. My daughter got my husband’s height, long legs and some long lost relatives good looks. She only talks to guys who are in band with her. Most of whom are a head shorter than her.

Men buy Harleys for other men.

Personally, I think the misogyny issue wasn’t so influential in the election because I have heard this sort of stuff (well maybe not as bad as the Trump quote) from every stripe of male – especially when they don’t think women are around. (I worked at a law firm where I was one of the 2 or 3 women lawyers out of 60 or 70). I heard guys say repulsive stuff about their daughters and their wives. And it wasn’t limited to the republicans or democrats. For most women I think Trumps comments were a bit ho hum – although the assault issues were something different.

The population of this country is no different than it was before the election. I think if anything good came out of all of this it shows how misinformed or mistaken the news media is. I think the hand wringing is too much. The Supreme Ct. nominee can’t be any more conservative than Scalia, and even with him there was significant movement in terms of gay marriage, etc. I cried when Reagan was elected (even though I wasn’t old enough to vote) and it wasn’t the end of the world. In fact, the Reagan years were good for a lot of people. The race issue, if anything, seems to have gotten worse under Obama – at least I think so. Maybe people just more willing to talk about it. Not saying any of this is good – just that outcomes can be very unpredictable.

Thanks again for your nice reply. Go to the gym and try to forget about all this crap – that’s what I’m going to do.

[scaredyclassic]

[quote=bearishgurl][quote=scaredyclassic][quote=utcsox]With Republicans control both the Presidency and the Congress, major tax reform is highly likely. Check out this tool that Tax Foundation made on how would the Trump proposed tax plans would effect you bottom line.

http://taxfoundation.org/blog/how-would-trump-and-clinton-tax-plans-affect-your-taxes%5B/quote%5D

3 lousy grand.[/quote]That’s better than a kick in the a$$, scaredy. I take it you will be “better off” under a Trump Administration than you currently are. Don’t knock it.[/quote]

ok. i guess. if hillary had raised my taxes say 7k, i suppose im really up 10k overall, 16 k pretax. that sounds bigger. i can get a little excited about 16k. yeah, i just feel the moderately upper class should be coddled and catered to.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=njtosd][quote=scaredyclassic]only betas read poetry, probably to impress girls.

go long on harley davidsons and mancave accesdories.

short hipsters.[/quote]

Thanks for the nice response and your return to the moral high ground.

My husband is 6’2″ and I can’t get my arms all the way around him at the chest (and I’m 5’6″). He was blessed with a football player body and puts on muscle almost effortlessly. It pisses me off. He was the first person to convince me to read poetry. He also likes graphic design, science and switching engines in and out of cars. Women know that men are many things because they always want to tell us about their secret (forbidden) interests – (i.e. poetry or similar). I’ve never heard a woman decide not to go out with someone because he liked opera. My daughter got my husband’s height, long legs and some long lost relatives good looks. She only talks to guys who are in band with her. Most of whom are a head shorter than her.

Men buy Harleys for other men.

Personally, I think the misogyny issue wasn’t so influential in the election because I have heard this sort of stuff (well maybe not as bad as the Trump quote) from every stripe of male – especially when they don’t think women are around. (I worked at a law firm where I was one of the 2 or 3 women lawyers out of 60 or 70). I heard guys say repulsive stuff about their daughters and their wives. And it wasn’t limited to the republicans or democrats. For most women I think Trumps comments were a bit ho hum – although the assault issues were something different.

The population of this country is no different than it was before the election. I think if anything good came out of all of this it shows how misinformed or mistaken the news media is. I think the hand wringing is too much. The Supreme Ct. nominee can’t be any more conservative than Scalia, and even with him there was significant movement in terms of gay marriage, etc. I cried when Reagan was elected (even though I wasn’t old enough to vote) and it wasn’t the end of the world. In fact, the Reagan years were good for a lot of people. The race issue, if anything, seems to have gotten worse under Obama – at least I think so. Maybe people just more willing to talk about it. Not saying any of this is good – just that outcomes can be very unpredictable.

Thanks again for your nice reply. Go to the gym and try to forget about all this crap – that’s what I’m going to do.[/quote]Great post, nj. There DOES seem to be a lot of (unnecessary) hand-wringing going on right now. I’m not threatened by Trump’s future Supreme Court justice picks, either. I see certainly one and maybe two reasonable choices appointed by Trump making it thru the confirmation hearings (the reason being that Trump is actually a “Reagan Democrat”). And I see that several Dem PACs funded by George Soros are again running craigslist ads in CA, WA and OR (and perhaps NY) offering young people nice sums of money to protest against the election of Trump and cause cities to have to spend a lot of money on extra law enforcement. For the life of me, I don’t understand why they are getting so much airtime. These thugs/kids are losers who can’t get regular jobs and are probably flunking out of college.

Like you, I wasn’t bothered by Trump’s rhetoric or his off-color jokes. I’ve worked around numerous lawyers myself for many years who regularly told off-color jokes to each other around the water cooler and copy machine, no matter who was in earshot. I like Trump. He’s a real, regular person (difficult to impossible to run into in “PC Coastal CA”). I have always been a direct person and as such, I feel a certain comfort level with him and wouldn’t mind meeting him in person.

Disclaimer: I have never been a big TV watcher and have never seen “The Apprentice” nor have I had a chance yet to read any of the books out there about Trump.

Oh, and I DID vote for Reagan …. twice! And before that, Jimmy Carter :=0

[FlyerInHi]

njtosd, i interesting you should mention women who felt that Trump’s actions were hohum.

What about men who felt disrespected by the small actions of elitist democrats? Could the alpha males be the weak insecure ones who can’t handle a bitch as president?

[njtosd]

[quote=FlyerInHi]njtosd, i interesting you should mention women who felt that Trump’s actions were hohum.

What about men who felt disrespected by the small actions of elitist democrats? Could the alpha males be the weak insecure ones who can’t handle a bitch as president?[/quote]

🙂 Case in point. People who wouldn’t dream of using the “n word” think the “b word” (or the”c word, if we’re talking about spdrun) is peachy and kind of hip. Although to be fair Brian you are the most politically (at least) schizophrenic person on this site.

Not really sure what you mean by the small actions of elitist democrats. Nominating a woman as a presidential candidate doesn’t seem small to me, so I’m confused. FWIW – Scandinavia seems riddled with alpha male physical types and is known for its progressiveness in terms of gender issues. Things get worse for women in that area of the world as you go south.

And I never said his actions as a whole were ho hum – I said his language, which is not unlike some things I’ve read on this site, might not be as striking as some might think.

[scaredyclassic]

i really felt the grab them by the pussy was pretty offensive lite. imagine what he could have said. a little more graphic and brutal and it could have had an effect.

[FlyerInHi]

The take away for the elections is that an overt prick can be president but a female prick cannot, eventhough the female is only arguably a covert prick.

By small actions by elitist I mean the little things that some people feel dissed about like the soda tax that people view as a value judgement on their dietary habits. Or Hollywood praising the Prius over the big SUV. Or saying that American sniper was not a good movie (it sucked).

Real alpha males shouldn’t give a shit what coastal liberals think. But the modern American alpha male needs constant reminder that he’s greatest. He needs to fly the flag on his garage and his president better damn well wear a flag pin.

[njtosd]

[quote=scaredyclassic]i really felt the grab them by the pussy was pretty offensive lite. imagine what he could have said. a little more graphic and brutal and it could have had an effect.[/quote]

The “p word” bothers me – but I have been called oversensitive. And I’m sure he and Bill Clinton have also said worse. We know Anthony Weiner has said worse about to a minor (Although – that girl is really something, if you read about it – she said she was obsessed with Anthony and wanted him to be her Hannibal Lechter . . . ). I know both Bill and Anthony are no longer candidates for public office, but AW didn’t turn into a creepazoid over night – Huma Abedin knew him for years and married him anyway. Etc. Etc. In other words, if you’re looking for the party that only tolerates polite and PC talk, it doesn’t exist.

I think AN’s graphic in another thread explains things a lot more more simply. People are unhappy and they want something different. God knows what different is going to be.

[utcsox]

Check out this article of six tax planning strategies to prepare for a Trump Presidency.

By far the most interesting strategy is to “tender you resignation today” if you are an employee and earn more than $52,000 (if single) or more than $105,000 (if married filing jointly).

http://www.forbes.com/sites/anthonynitti/2016/11/13/six-tax-planning-strategies-to-prepare-for-a-trump-presidency/#5831bdc17222

[njtosd]

[quote=FlyerInHi]The take away for the elections is that an overt prick can be president but a female prick cannot, eventhough the female is only arguably a covert prick.

By small actions by elitist I mean the little things that some people feel dissed about like the soda tax that people view as a value judgement on their dietary habits. Or Hollywood praising the Prius over the big SUV. Or saying that American sniper was not a good movie (it sucked).

Real alpha males shouldn’t give a shit what coastal liberals think. But the modern American alpha male needs constant reminder that he’s greatest. He needs to fly the flag on his garage and his president better damn well wear a flag pin.[/quote]

Once again, the sweeping generalizations about the non-coastal areas. Areas where, from what I can tell, you’ve never lived.

I do agree that some people resent being told what they should drink or drive more than others. Most men I know hate being told what to do at all. I haven’t noticed it break down along party lines – but maybe that’s so. We are always looking for a balance between independence and social obligations and I don’t think you or anyone else is guaranteed to have the right answer.

And finally, by the way, I find your fixation on (your version of) healthy eating eating a little odd, but so be it. And we’ve never owned an SUV or a Prius, so maybe we’re just out of it altogether.

[njtosd]

[quote=utcsox]Check out this article of six tax planning strategies to prepare for a Trump Presidency.

By far the most interesting strategy is to “tender you resignation today” if you are an employee and earn more than $52,000 (if single) or more than $105,000 (if married filing jointly).

http://www.forbes.com/sites/anthonynitti/2016/11/13/six-tax-planning-strategies-to-prepare-for-a-trump-presidency/#5831bdc17222%5B/quote%5D

Tender your resignation today and become a consultant to your former employer, if that is permitted while maintaining the tax advantage. Or start your own business. Not as attention grabbing as your statement, but more accurate.

[utcsox]

[quote=njtosd][quote=utcsox]Check out this article of six tax planning strategies to prepare for a Trump Presidency.

By far the most interesting strategy is to “tender you resignation today” if you are an employee and earn more than $52,000 (if single) or more than $105,000 (if married filing jointly).

http://www.forbes.com/sites/anthonynitti/2016/11/13/six-tax-planning-strategies-to-prepare-for-a-trump-presidency/#5831bdc17222%5B/quote%5D

Tender your resignation today and become a consultant to your former employer, if that is permitted while maintaining the tax advantage. Or start your own business. Not as attention grabbing as your statement, but more accurate.[/quote]

Fair. I shall editorialize like you did

[bearishgurl]

[quote=FlyerInHi] . . . Real alpha males shouldn’t give a shit what coastal liberals think. But the modern American alpha male needs constant reminder that he’s greatest. He needs to fly the flag on his garage and his president better damn well wear a flag pin.[/quote]I would prefer this to an alpha OR beta male (illegal or otherwise) flying the Mexican flag on American soil (in lieu of the American flag).

That’s what we have in many neighborhoods in CA (which last time I checked, was part of the US).

[bearishgurl]

[quote=njtosd][quote=FlyerInHi]The take away for the elections is that an overt prick can be president but a female prick cannot, eventhough the female is only arguably a covert prick.

By small actions by elitist I mean the little things that some people feel dissed about like the soda tax that people view as a value judgement on their dietary habits. Or Hollywood praising the Prius over the big SUV. Or saying that American sniper was not a good movie (it sucked).

Real alpha males shouldn’t give a shit what coastal liberals think. But the modern American alpha male needs constant reminder that he’s greatest. He needs to fly the flag on his garage and his president better damn well wear a flag pin.[/quote]

Once again, the sweeping generalizations about the non-coastal areas. Areas where, from what I can tell, you’ve never lived.

I do agree that some people resent being told what they should drink or drive more than others. Most men I know hate being told what to do at all. I haven’t noticed it break down along party lines – but maybe that’s so. We are always looking for a balance between independence and social obligations and I don’t think you or anyone else is guaranteed to have the right answer.

And finally, by the way, I find your fixation on (your version of) healthy eating eating a little odd, but so be it. And we’ve never owned an SUV or a Prius, so maybe we’re just out of it altogether.[/quote]You’re not “out of it,” nj.

Actually, FIH currently resides in (inland) Las Vegas, NV. Or so he says. I can personally attest that that city is full of deplorables, including working-class Hispanics and middle-class retirees (some longtime Nevadans and also mostly deplorable). And FIH has stated here that he drives a Camry and has an older pickup he uses to go to Home Depot, etc, lol …

HRC won NV by just 24K votes so it must have a good portion of deplorables in its 3 major population centers. The rest of the state has a higher population of jackrabbits and wild horses than people but those scattered staunch desert-dwellers are both deplorable and irredeemable :=0. In short, by virtue of choosing to declare NV his “home state,” FIH is no longer a member of the “coastal liberal elite.”

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