water leak in my rental

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=EconProf]We are all unduly afraid of asbestos due to a cabal of trial lawyers, abatement contractors, junk science, and bureaucrats. Real danger comes only from prolonged exposure to high concentrations of airborne asbestoes, such as that suffered decades later by shipyard workers in WW II.
Still, if they discovered it, current rules call for us to be overly safe–damn the cost–and contain it.
As to your higher utility costs when they use power tools to do the repairs, you are really talking about pennies here. Worry more about who is going to pay, and how your life and possessions will be disrupted during the work.[/quote]

And cigarettes kill less than a third of long term smokers.
At least your Ayn Rand level of credibility stays consistent.

[kiki]

Thanks for the comment on cable on hold.
I am already out of the apartment for 10days and property management thinks it might take 3 more weeks

I am not as concerned on repairs on my unit, I know the ownwers insurance is working on it. My concern is asbestos exposure from neighbot potential improper management of repair, as I said she does not have insurance so who know if someone qualified will do the job. I read asbestos left alone are not issue but if they are exposed just one fiber in air can be dangererous. She has to do work where asbestos could be exposed, the same way that we have to do in my apartment, with the difference the owner of the place I rent is taking care of it.

Regarding utilities, I do not know if it pennies or not. This is fundamental question: I am not living there, why would I pay any part of the bill, the owner should assume that cost instead of saying only incremental of a regular month

There is definitely pain on having to rush pack for a month and luve in a hotel. Plus we are paying everything now until the insurance pays us back. So if 2 lessons learn: get rental insurance and be sure to have at least 6 months of emergency fund. Hotel (living) is 3-4 times more expensive than rent plus no cooking at home so the 6months can ran out quickly.

I have lost a couple of days of work due to having to supervise one inspection and the move but not sure if anyone (insurance or condo owner) will pay so I am writing that off.

[kiki]

Thanks for the comment on cable on hold.
I am already out of the apartment for 10days and property management thinks it might take 3 more weeks

I am not as concerned on repairs on my unit, I know the ownwers insurance is working on it. My concern is asbestos exposure from neighbot potential improper management of repair, as I said she does not have insurance so who know if someone qualified will do the job. I read asbestos left alone are not issue but if they are exposed just one fiber in air can be dangererous. She has to do work where asbestos could be exposed, the same way that we have to do in my apartment, with the difference the owner of the place I rent is taking care of it.

Regarding utilities, I do not know if it pennies or not. This is fundamental question: I am not living there, why would I pay any part of the bill, the owner should assume that cost instead of saying only incremental of a regular month

There is definitely pain on having to rush pack for a month and luve in a hotel. Plus we are paying everything now until the insurance pays us back. So if 2 lessons learn: get rental insurance and be sure to have at least 6 months of emergency fund. Hotel (living) is 3-4 times more expensive than rent plus no cooking at home so the 6months can ran out quickly.

I have lost a couple of days of work due to having to supervise one inspection and the move but not sure if anyone (insurance or condo owner) will pay so I am writing that off.

[kiki]

Thanks for the comment on cable on hold.
I am already out of the apartment for 10days and property management thinks it might take 3 more weeks

I am not as concerned on repairs on my unit, I know the ownwers insurance is working on it. My concern is asbestos exposure from neighbot potential improper management of repair, as I said she does not have insurance so who know if someone qualified will do the job. I read asbestos left alone are not issue but if they are exposed just one fiber in air can be dangererous. She has to do work where asbestos could be exposed, the same way that we have to do in my apartment, with the difference the owner of the place I rent is taking care of it.

Regarding utilities, I do not know if it pennies or not. This is fundamental question: I am not living there, why would I pay any part of the bill, the owner should assume that cost instead of saying only incremental of a regular month

There is definitely pain on having to rush pack for a month and luve in a hotel. Plus we are paying everything now until the insurance pays us back. So if 2 lessons learn: get rental insurance and be sure to have at least 6 months of emergency fund. Hotel (living) is 3-4 times more expensive than rent plus no cooking at home so the 6months can ran out quickly.

I have lost a couple of days of work due to having to supervise one inspection and the move but not sure if anyone (insurance or condo owner) will pay so I am writing that off.

[kiki]

Thanks for the comment on cable on hold.
I am already out of the apartment for 10days and property management thinks it might take 3 more weeks

I am not as concerned on repairs on my unit, I know the ownwers insurance is working on it. My concern is asbestos exposure from neighbot potential improper management of repair, as I said she does not have insurance so who know if someone qualified will do the job. I read asbestos left alone are not issue but if they are exposed just one fiber in air can be dangererous. She has to do work where asbestos could be exposed, the same way that we have to do in my apartment, with the difference the owner of the place I rent is taking care of it.

Regarding utilities, I do not know if it pennies or not. This is fundamental question: I am not living there, why would I pay any part of the bill, the owner should assume that cost instead of saying only incremental of a regular month

There is definitely pain on having to rush pack for a month and luve in a hotel. Plus we are paying everything now until the insurance pays us back. So if 2 lessons learn: get rental insurance and be sure to have at least 6 months of emergency fund. Hotel (living) is 3-4 times more expensive than rent plus no cooking at home so the 6months can ran out quickly.

I have lost a couple of days of work due to having to supervise one inspection and the move but not sure if anyone (insurance or condo owner) will pay so I am writing that off.

[kiki]

Thanks for the comment on cable on hold.
I am already out of the apartment for 10days and property management thinks it might take 3 more weeks

I am not as concerned on repairs on my unit, I know the ownwers insurance is working on it. My concern is asbestos exposure from neighbot potential improper management of repair, as I said she does not have insurance so who know if someone qualified will do the job. I read asbestos left alone are not issue but if they are exposed just one fiber in air can be dangererous. She has to do work where asbestos could be exposed, the same way that we have to do in my apartment, with the difference the owner of the place I rent is taking care of it.

Regarding utilities, I do not know if it pennies or not. This is fundamental question: I am not living there, why would I pay any part of the bill, the owner should assume that cost instead of saying only incremental of a regular month

There is definitely pain on having to rush pack for a month and luve in a hotel. Plus we are paying everything now until the insurance pays us back. So if 2 lessons learn: get rental insurance and be sure to have at least 6 months of emergency fund. Hotel (living) is 3-4 times more expensive than rent plus no cooking at home so the 6months can ran out quickly.

I have lost a couple of days of work due to having to supervise one inspection and the move but not sure if anyone (insurance or condo owner) will pay so I am writing that off.

[EconProf]

Could you tell us where they found asbestos and who found it?
Frankly, asbestos is in just about everything in any building over 20 years old: drywall, insulation, wiring, caulk, glue, popcorn ceilings…the list is dozens long.
Genuine risk to depends its magnitude and whether it is airborn. The shipyard workers of WW II inhaled it for years, in high concentrations, and many died as a result, decades later.
When the current laws on asbestos were debated years ago, a big battle occurred about how to best deal with asbestos. Many scientists argued it would be safest to contain it or wrap it and not disturb it or let it get airborn. Those who argued for removal and disposal, whatever the cost, won out, which may be why you are now so greatly inconvienced and paying in both time and money, as are the other parties.
I am sorry for the price, broadly speaking, you are paying for all this. It would be good to know how the asbestos was discovered, since the subject does not typically come up when fixing a plumbing leak and related repairs.

[EconProf]

Could you tell us where they found asbestos and who found it?
Frankly, asbestos is in just about everything in any building over 20 years old: drywall, insulation, wiring, caulk, glue, popcorn ceilings…the list is dozens long.
Genuine risk to depends its magnitude and whether it is airborn. The shipyard workers of WW II inhaled it for years, in high concentrations, and many died as a result, decades later.
When the current laws on asbestos were debated years ago, a big battle occurred about how to best deal with asbestos. Many scientists argued it would be safest to contain it or wrap it and not disturb it or let it get airborn. Those who argued for removal and disposal, whatever the cost, won out, which may be why you are now so greatly inconvienced and paying in both time and money, as are the other parties.
I am sorry for the price, broadly speaking, you are paying for all this. It would be good to know how the asbestos was discovered, since the subject does not typically come up when fixing a plumbing leak and related repairs.

[EconProf]

Could you tell us where they found asbestos and who found it?
Frankly, asbestos is in just about everything in any building over 20 years old: drywall, insulation, wiring, caulk, glue, popcorn ceilings…the list is dozens long.
Genuine risk to depends its magnitude and whether it is airborn. The shipyard workers of WW II inhaled it for years, in high concentrations, and many died as a result, decades later.
When the current laws on asbestos were debated years ago, a big battle occurred about how to best deal with asbestos. Many scientists argued it would be safest to contain it or wrap it and not disturb it or let it get airborn. Those who argued for removal and disposal, whatever the cost, won out, which may be why you are now so greatly inconvienced and paying in both time and money, as are the other parties.
I am sorry for the price, broadly speaking, you are paying for all this. It would be good to know how the asbestos was discovered, since the subject does not typically come up when fixing a plumbing leak and related repairs.

[EconProf]

Could you tell us where they found asbestos and who found it?
Frankly, asbestos is in just about everything in any building over 20 years old: drywall, insulation, wiring, caulk, glue, popcorn ceilings…the list is dozens long.
Genuine risk to depends its magnitude and whether it is airborn. The shipyard workers of WW II inhaled it for years, in high concentrations, and many died as a result, decades later.
When the current laws on asbestos were debated years ago, a big battle occurred about how to best deal with asbestos. Many scientists argued it would be safest to contain it or wrap it and not disturb it or let it get airborn. Those who argued for removal and disposal, whatever the cost, won out, which may be why you are now so greatly inconvienced and paying in both time and money, as are the other parties.
I am sorry for the price, broadly speaking, you are paying for all this. It would be good to know how the asbestos was discovered, since the subject does not typically come up when fixing a plumbing leak and related repairs.

[EconProf]

Could you tell us where they found asbestos and who found it?
Frankly, asbestos is in just about everything in any building over 20 years old: drywall, insulation, wiring, caulk, glue, popcorn ceilings…the list is dozens long.
Genuine risk to depends its magnitude and whether it is airborn. The shipyard workers of WW II inhaled it for years, in high concentrations, and many died as a result, decades later.
When the current laws on asbestos were debated years ago, a big battle occurred about how to best deal with asbestos. Many scientists argued it would be safest to contain it or wrap it and not disturb it or let it get airborn. Those who argued for removal and disposal, whatever the cost, won out, which may be why you are now so greatly inconvienced and paying in both time and money, as are the other parties.
I am sorry for the price, broadly speaking, you are paying for all this. It would be good to know how the asbestos was discovered, since the subject does not typically come up when fixing a plumbing leak and related repairs.

[kiki]

I do not know the proceduce they did to find it. but it was on the wall from that are on the bedrooms and bathroom
All the property manager told us was: “We need to take all your stuff from your rooms to fix the walls. Also, we will take a sample (not sure of what: wall, insulations?) to determine if there is asbestos and if so, we need to take the asbesto out before starting any repair”.
To find out if there is asbesto they had to take it to a LAB.

They told us they found it and two days ago my husband went to check the place saw the rooms tented. Not sure how, he did not take a picture but told me “Honey, the apartment looks like ET, when the FEDs go to the house to get ET out and there are white tents all over”. He said there was sign in hall saying ” to enter in this area you need special clothing and mask” so he left and we have not gone to the place again. We are waiting to get a call with some updates.

as i said i moved most of my stuff (Except the kitchen and pictures hanging on the wall) to a storage so we are just waiting.

We are trying to get more information but the property manager does not seems to know much and he is telling little by little day by day based on what the people doing the work do and based and the insurance tells him what they will pay.

[kiki]

I do not know the proceduce they did to find it. but it was on the wall from that are on the bedrooms and bathroom
All the property manager told us was: “We need to take all your stuff from your rooms to fix the walls. Also, we will take a sample (not sure of what: wall, insulations?) to determine if there is asbestos and if so, we need to take the asbesto out before starting any repair”.
To find out if there is asbesto they had to take it to a LAB.

They told us they found it and two days ago my husband went to check the place saw the rooms tented. Not sure how, he did not take a picture but told me “Honey, the apartment looks like ET, when the FEDs go to the house to get ET out and there are white tents all over”. He said there was sign in hall saying ” to enter in this area you need special clothing and mask” so he left and we have not gone to the place again. We are waiting to get a call with some updates.

as i said i moved most of my stuff (Except the kitchen and pictures hanging on the wall) to a storage so we are just waiting.

We are trying to get more information but the property manager does not seems to know much and he is telling little by little day by day based on what the people doing the work do and based and the insurance tells him what they will pay.

[kiki]

I do not know the proceduce they did to find it. but it was on the wall from that are on the bedrooms and bathroom
All the property manager told us was: “We need to take all your stuff from your rooms to fix the walls. Also, we will take a sample (not sure of what: wall, insulations?) to determine if there is asbestos and if so, we need to take the asbesto out before starting any repair”.
To find out if there is asbesto they had to take it to a LAB.

They told us they found it and two days ago my husband went to check the place saw the rooms tented. Not sure how, he did not take a picture but told me “Honey, the apartment looks like ET, when the FEDs go to the house to get ET out and there are white tents all over”. He said there was sign in hall saying ” to enter in this area you need special clothing and mask” so he left and we have not gone to the place again. We are waiting to get a call with some updates.

as i said i moved most of my stuff (Except the kitchen and pictures hanging on the wall) to a storage so we are just waiting.

We are trying to get more information but the property manager does not seems to know much and he is telling little by little day by day based on what the people doing the work do and based and the insurance tells him what they will pay.

[kiki]

I do not know the proceduce they did to find it. but it was on the wall from that are on the bedrooms and bathroom
All the property manager told us was: “We need to take all your stuff from your rooms to fix the walls. Also, we will take a sample (not sure of what: wall, insulations?) to determine if there is asbestos and if so, we need to take the asbesto out before starting any repair”.
To find out if there is asbesto they had to take it to a LAB.

They told us they found it and two days ago my husband went to check the place saw the rooms tented. Not sure how, he did not take a picture but told me “Honey, the apartment looks like ET, when the FEDs go to the house to get ET out and there are white tents all over”. He said there was sign in hall saying ” to enter in this area you need special clothing and mask” so he left and we have not gone to the place again. We are waiting to get a call with some updates.

as i said i moved most of my stuff (Except the kitchen and pictures hanging on the wall) to a storage so we are just waiting.

We are trying to get more information but the property manager does not seems to know much and he is telling little by little day by day based on what the people doing the work do and based and the insurance tells him what they will pay.

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