Used cars are not good deals any more!

[bearishgurl]

[quote=ocrenter]Agree, toyota and Lexus barely depreciate, not worth it to buy used. Euro luxury brands depreciate like mad the first 3-4 years[/quote]

Toyota and Lexus DO depreciate after the Certified Used period is over or they no longer qualify for it. Toyota Motor Co has extended this period up to the last eight model years, depending on mileage and condition of vehicle.

ocrenter, you might be SHOCKED at the good Toyota/Lexus deals for model years 2004 and older, ESP if paying cash or purchasing from a private party.

[bearishgurl]

Toy pickups and 4-runners can easily last 300+k miles as do Lexuses (if properly maintained). The Lexus Luxury Sedan (model years ’89 to ’00) was built to last ~500K miles.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexus_LS

[Coronita]

[quote=bearishgurl]The Lexus Luxury Sedan (model years ’89 to ’00) was built to last ~500K miles.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexus_LS%5B/quote%5D

Data?

[bearishgurl]

[quote=flu][quote=bearishgurl]The Lexus Luxury Sedan (model years ’89 to ’00) was built to last ~500K miles.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexus_LS
[/quote]

Data?[/quote]

From the above link:

…Lexus’ flagship model is recognized as one of the most reliable vehicles ever built, having held the top ranking in J.D. Power and Associates’ U.S. Vehicle Dependability Survey for fifteen consecutive years (1994–2009), and receiving Consumer Reports’ highest rankings for vehicle dependability…

see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_UZ_engine

Ask ANY Certified Toyota mechanic and they will tell you. Not only that, if you have one to sell or part out, they will buy it or get it sold for you very quickly.

[joec]

As other people have said, it really depends on the car and model and mileage and year. Very high priced cars depreciate quickly because there is more room to drop.

Used cars sometimes don’t even drop at all if you buy it cheap. A friend of mine bought a used Acura NSX way back and sold it for more than he paid after tracking it and driving it around a few years.

That said, if you talk about “MOST” cards, buying used usually is still a better deal (as it should be), but when you bring in financing, your credit, loans, etc…

USED might make a lot of sense for a lot of people.

LEASING also isn’t as bad as people make it out to be depending on how you own/use/drive your cars and if you can deduct it for a business.

Bottom line is that the answer really depends and using a Prius as an example is pretty bad since Prius used to sell more than new since there was a shortage early on.

I personally like new myself and will probably lease (for business) our next vehicle.

Last 2 vehicles were purchased new.

[scaredyclassic]

car leaks a lot of oil so i’m thinking now im just never going to change the oil again, just keep adding new oil.

is that ok?

[all]

[quote=squat250]car leaks a lot of oil so i’m thinking now im just never going to change the oil again, just keep adding new oil.

is that ok?[/quote]

Isn’t that how cars are supposed to work?

[scaredyclassic]

i think im gonna go buy a brand new honda accord tomorrow. i cant unscrew the bolt holding down my spare tire and have to cut it off. the drain bolt is stripped and needed an oversized plug. one tire hasa nail in it and leaks and needs to be replaced. i don’t know. sometimes it’s all kind of overwhelming.

but maybe I should just reread THE POWER OF NOW by eckhart tolle..

[paramount]

[quote=bearishgurl]Toy pickups and 4-runners can easily last 300+k miles as do Lexuses (if properly maintained). The Lexus Luxury Sedan (model years ’89 to ’00) was built to last ~500K miles.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexus_LS%5B/quote%5D

I looked hard at 4-Runners before buying a CX-9.

I used to tell anyone who would listen that Crossover’s (CUV) weren’t good at either being a SUV or a car. Don’t buy one.

But then I drove one – a Traverse in particular. I was really, really impressed by the overall ride and driving experience.

For the vast majority of drivers, a CUV is a far superior choice (IMO) when compared to an old BOF SUV.

They are easier and more comfortable to drive and have a much better ride.

I doubt I would ever buy an old school BOF SUV ever again, even the legendary 4-Runner is outclassed in almost every meaningful way (for most buyers) by even an average CUV.

[spdrun]

Station. Wagon. The real kind. Not one designed for stupid Americans with ego problems who won’t drive a wagon because their mommy drove one in 1985.

The Jetta and Passat wagon are still sold in the cesspit that’s the US auto market, even if pickings are slim.

This being said, I did a 1000-mile trip this week in a car that I paid $2500 for. Nice to see all the pigeons in their leased/borrowed cars and laugh as I pass them.

[sdrealtor]

[quote=squat250]i think im gonna go buy a brand new honda accord tomorrow. i cant unscrew the bolt holding down my spare tire and have to cut it off. the drain bolt is stripped and needed an oversized plug. one tire hasa nail in it and leaks and needs to be replaced. i don’t know. sometimes it’s all kind of overwhelming.

but maybe I should just reread THE POWER OF NOW by eckhart tolle..[/quote]

Its just a flesh wound. I think she’s salvagable.

[sdrealtor]

[quote=paramount][quote=bearishgurl]Toy pickups and 4-runners can easily last 300+k miles as do Lexuses (if properly maintained). The Lexus Luxury Sedan (model years ’89 to ’00) was built to last ~500K miles.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexus_LS%5B/quote%5D

I looked hard at 4-Runners before buying a CX-9.

I used to tell anyone who would listen that Crossover’s (CUV) weren’t good at either being a SUV or a car. Don’t buy one.

But then I drove one – a Traverse in particular. I was really, really impressed by the overall ride and driving experience.

For the vast majority of drivers, a CUV is a far superior choice (IMO) when compared to an old BOF SUV.

They are easier and more comfortable to drive and have a much better ride.

I doubt I would ever buy an old school BOF SUV ever again, even the legendary 4-Runner is outclassed in almost every meaningful way (for most buyers) by even an average CUV.[/quote]

I drive a 335 but I have an old school BOF SUV that I will keep until the wheels fall off. Never again will I buy a beast like that. I dream of driving it off a cliff into the ocean. It deserves to die a spectacular death like that

[Coronita]

[quote=squat250]i think im gonna go buy a brand new honda accord tomorrow. i cant unscrew the bolt holding down my spare tire and have to cut it off. the drain bolt is stripped and needed an oversized plug. one tire hasa nail in it and leaks and needs to be replaced. i don’t know. sometimes it’s all kind of overwhelming.

but maybe I should just reread THE POWER OF NOW by eckhart tolle..[/quote]

Accord? Meh…. Get a 2013 Nissan Altima….

Or better yet a 2013 Kia Optima SX… Imho those things look way cooler than fricking boring ass Accord. I’ve seen some of these cars passing by, and the side view made my head turn a few times. The rear deck looks pretty good too imho…they did a good job with the LED tailights… My first impression when I saw one go by was who the heck makes that? And then I was stunned it was Kia…
It’s got a 274HP 4 cylinder turbo charged engine. Yes, that’s right… 274HP out of a 4banger…It’s rated at 22/32MPG…And you can’t beat the 10 year power train warranty, and 5/60 general warranty….

BTW: stripped drain plug = shitty mechanic… Just get one of these..

Fumoto Drain Plug

I had one on my old Acura Integra when the shitty mechanic kept stripping the drain plug.

[scaredyclassic]

i have been having strong feelings of mortality in my car, as never before. I spend more time on a risky two lane road.

Have you all read the iihs mortality figures by model car? Honda Acccord does extremely well.

Course it may just be the broing ass safe dudes self select and all buy honda accords. Still, the numbers are the numbers.

Is it too late to put that drain plug in if I’ve already had someone strip the threads and an oversized plug is in?

[creechrr]

[quote=bearishgurl][quote=squat250]5 spd manual hatchback. coveted DX model. dog vomited only one time in back. mouse families have nested once in back under spare tire. comes with many bumperstickers included. has all glass windows. has minor rear and front damage. dents. roof vibrates at high speeds. no radio. has glove compartment AND ashtray. Silver but peeling. also the hatchback struts dont workso you can get guillotined if not careful. i use a vise pliers to hold it open. will show buyer how.

has had 3,000 in repairs over the last 18 months with receipts.

i was thinking of maybe ripping out all the upholstery and carpeting and removing all the seats and just installing one fancy leather racing drivers seat. gotta get rid of smell.

also wondering if a well written craigslist ad could become a viral internet sensation on this car…[/quote]

scaredy, do you have a passport? You could take it to TJ and have the interior ripped out and redone in carpet or vinyl floors; leather or pleather … what’s your pleasure? You might be surprised how little this costs in comparison to estimates from same types of companies in SD County!

If you would like have a referral to a good auto upholsterer in SD County, pm me and I may be able to help.

You can remove the bumper stickers with “Goo-Gone” and a single-edge razor knife or sharp scraper.

hint: After you get the interior redone and trunk relined, you don’t have to mention the dog’s mistake and the fmr mice nest in your craigslist ad :=]

Or maybe since it runs decent and has an authentic “5-spd overdrive” transmission, creechrr might take it off your hands and fix it up himself! These types of vehicles are hard to find today in your price range that run decent.

I drove a clutch up until ’92 and loved them. I kept trying to shift my Camry for over two years after that, lol :=0[/quote]

I miss my old ’95 hatchback. If you’re going to get rid of it, let me know. I could care less about the interior. I just need the unibody to be straight and able to pass smog.

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