Touchy Topic: American citizens competing for scarce jobs with 20 million illegals

[patientrenter]

FLU, I greatly favor legal immigration of highly qualified smart people. Why? Because it will probably make me wealthier, and I will have more people to make my good friends. Perhaps because I am conservative, my social circle is dominated by a few nationalities sometimes associated with high educational achievement, high savings, business sense, trustworthiness, loyalty…

[Coronita]

[quote=patientrenter]FLU, I greatly favor legal immigration of highly qualified smart people. Why? Because it will probably make me wealthier, and I will have more people to make my good friends. Perhaps because I am conservative, my social circle is dominated by a few nationalities sometimes associated with high educational achievement, high savings, business sense, trustworthiness, loyalty…

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Which is exactly why, I fear the Democratic party…

It’s really a conundrum with me. Because generally I back a more socially liberal party, as Democrats stand for.

But Democrats(in the past) have sided with pro-union, pro-protectionism, etc. And indirectly, in my opinion, they end up fvcking over every legalized immigrant, because they often bring up economic issues in terms of unfair trade, country xyz is stealing jobs,etc, rather than “we as a country need to figure out a way to outsmart everyone else”.

So when a Democratic politiciansays “The chinese are sucking are wealth dry via outsourcing”, most j6p union worker can’t distinguish “chinese”, meaning the country versus chinese (or anyone asian for that matter) who with the exception of a hair color and skin pretty much grew up here. And the Democrat party are much more inclined to make a statement like this.

It will be interesting to see what happens when Obama wins the general election. I’m pretty certain there will be conflict with China in the coming years.

Any chinese american who thinks he’ll be universally accepted when the sh!t really hits the fan with China is fooling himself.

[Coronita]

[quote=patientrenter]FLU, I greatly favor legal immigration of highly qualified smart people. Why? Because it will probably make me wealthier, and I will have more people to make my good friends. Perhaps because I am conservative, my social circle is dominated by a few nationalities sometimes associated with high educational achievement, high savings, business sense, trustworthiness, loyalty…

[/quote]

Which is exactly why, I fear the Democratic party…

It’s really a conundrum with me. Because generally I back a more socially liberal party, as Democrats stand for.

But Democrats(in the past) have sided with pro-union, pro-protectionism, etc. And indirectly, in my opinion, they end up fvcking over every legalized immigrant, because they often bring up economic issues in terms of unfair trade, country xyz is stealing jobs,etc, rather than “we as a country need to figure out a way to outsmart everyone else”.

So when a Democratic politiciansays “The chinese are sucking are wealth dry via outsourcing”, most j6p union worker can’t distinguish “chinese”, meaning the country versus chinese (or anyone asian for that matter) who with the exception of a hair color and skin pretty much grew up here. And the Democrat party are much more inclined to make a statement like this.

It will be interesting to see what happens when Obama wins the general election. I’m pretty certain there will be conflict with China in the coming years.

Any chinese american who thinks he’ll be universally accepted when the sh!t really hits the fan with China is fooling himself.

[Coronita]

[quote=patientrenter]FLU, I greatly favor legal immigration of highly qualified smart people. Why? Because it will probably make me wealthier, and I will have more people to make my good friends. Perhaps because I am conservative, my social circle is dominated by a few nationalities sometimes associated with high educational achievement, high savings, business sense, trustworthiness, loyalty…

[/quote]

Which is exactly why, I fear the Democratic party…

It’s really a conundrum with me. Because generally I back a more socially liberal party, as Democrats stand for.

But Democrats(in the past) have sided with pro-union, pro-protectionism, etc. And indirectly, in my opinion, they end up fvcking over every legalized immigrant, because they often bring up economic issues in terms of unfair trade, country xyz is stealing jobs,etc, rather than “we as a country need to figure out a way to outsmart everyone else”.

So when a Democratic politiciansays “The chinese are sucking are wealth dry via outsourcing”, most j6p union worker can’t distinguish “chinese”, meaning the country versus chinese (or anyone asian for that matter) who with the exception of a hair color and skin pretty much grew up here. And the Democrat party are much more inclined to make a statement like this.

It will be interesting to see what happens when Obama wins the general election. I’m pretty certain there will be conflict with China in the coming years.

Any chinese american who thinks he’ll be universally accepted when the sh!t really hits the fan with China is fooling himself.

[Coronita]

[quote=patientrenter]FLU, I greatly favor legal immigration of highly qualified smart people. Why? Because it will probably make me wealthier, and I will have more people to make my good friends. Perhaps because I am conservative, my social circle is dominated by a few nationalities sometimes associated with high educational achievement, high savings, business sense, trustworthiness, loyalty…

[/quote]

Which is exactly why, I fear the Democratic party…

It’s really a conundrum with me. Because generally I back a more socially liberal party, as Democrats stand for.

But Democrats(in the past) have sided with pro-union, pro-protectionism, etc. And indirectly, in my opinion, they end up fvcking over every legalized immigrant, because they often bring up economic issues in terms of unfair trade, country xyz is stealing jobs,etc, rather than “we as a country need to figure out a way to outsmart everyone else”.

So when a Democratic politiciansays “The chinese are sucking are wealth dry via outsourcing”, most j6p union worker can’t distinguish “chinese”, meaning the country versus chinese (or anyone asian for that matter) who with the exception of a hair color and skin pretty much grew up here. And the Democrat party are much more inclined to make a statement like this.

It will be interesting to see what happens when Obama wins the general election. I’m pretty certain there will be conflict with China in the coming years.

Any chinese american who thinks he’ll be universally accepted when the sh!t really hits the fan with China is fooling himself.

[Coronita]

[quote=patientrenter]FLU, I greatly favor legal immigration of highly qualified smart people. Why? Because it will probably make me wealthier, and I will have more people to make my good friends. Perhaps because I am conservative, my social circle is dominated by a few nationalities sometimes associated with high educational achievement, high savings, business sense, trustworthiness, loyalty…

[/quote]

Which is exactly why, I fear the Democratic party…

It’s really a conundrum with me. Because generally I back a more socially liberal party, as Democrats stand for.

But Democrats(in the past) have sided with pro-union, pro-protectionism, etc. And indirectly, in my opinion, they end up fvcking over every legalized immigrant, because they often bring up economic issues in terms of unfair trade, country xyz is stealing jobs,etc, rather than “we as a country need to figure out a way to outsmart everyone else”.

So when a Democratic politiciansays “The chinese are sucking are wealth dry via outsourcing”, most j6p union worker can’t distinguish “chinese”, meaning the country versus chinese (or anyone asian for that matter) who with the exception of a hair color and skin pretty much grew up here. And the Democrat party are much more inclined to make a statement like this.

It will be interesting to see what happens when Obama wins the general election. I’m pretty certain there will be conflict with China in the coming years.

Any chinese american who thinks he’ll be universally accepted when the sh!t really hits the fan with China is fooling himself.

[CA renter]

History repeats itself:

Mexican and Mexican American workers often earned more in the United States than they could in Mexico’s civil war economy, although California farmers paid Mexican and Mexican American workers significantly less than white American workers. By the 1920s, at least three quarters of California’s 200,000 farm workers were Mexican or Mexican American.

As this rapid shift of Mexico’s working population occurred, the first labor agreement between the United States and Mexico was formed. Mexico required that U.S. farm owners provide legal contracts for all Mexican workers guaranteeing conditions such as wages and work schedules. The U.S. government, in turn, enforced the border between the United States and Mexico, checking that all Mexican immigrants had the proper work contract so they would not be exploited.

As the Great Depression took a toll on California’s economy during the 1930s, however, Mexicans and Mexican Americans became targets for discrimination and removal. White government officials claimed that Mexican immigrants made up the majority of the California unemployed. White trade unions claimed that Mexican immigrants were taking jobs that should go to white men. In reality, a new supply of white refugees desperate for jobs was flooding California from the Midwest, making up the majority of the unemployed.

http://www.museumca.org/picturethis/3_2.html

[CA renter]

History repeats itself:

Mexican and Mexican American workers often earned more in the United States than they could in Mexico’s civil war economy, although California farmers paid Mexican and Mexican American workers significantly less than white American workers. By the 1920s, at least three quarters of California’s 200,000 farm workers were Mexican or Mexican American.

As this rapid shift of Mexico’s working population occurred, the first labor agreement between the United States and Mexico was formed. Mexico required that U.S. farm owners provide legal contracts for all Mexican workers guaranteeing conditions such as wages and work schedules. The U.S. government, in turn, enforced the border between the United States and Mexico, checking that all Mexican immigrants had the proper work contract so they would not be exploited.

As the Great Depression took a toll on California’s economy during the 1930s, however, Mexicans and Mexican Americans became targets for discrimination and removal. White government officials claimed that Mexican immigrants made up the majority of the California unemployed. White trade unions claimed that Mexican immigrants were taking jobs that should go to white men. In reality, a new supply of white refugees desperate for jobs was flooding California from the Midwest, making up the majority of the unemployed.

http://www.museumca.org/picturethis/3_2.html

[CA renter]

History repeats itself:

Mexican and Mexican American workers often earned more in the United States than they could in Mexico’s civil war economy, although California farmers paid Mexican and Mexican American workers significantly less than white American workers. By the 1920s, at least three quarters of California’s 200,000 farm workers were Mexican or Mexican American.

As this rapid shift of Mexico’s working population occurred, the first labor agreement between the United States and Mexico was formed. Mexico required that U.S. farm owners provide legal contracts for all Mexican workers guaranteeing conditions such as wages and work schedules. The U.S. government, in turn, enforced the border between the United States and Mexico, checking that all Mexican immigrants had the proper work contract so they would not be exploited.

As the Great Depression took a toll on California’s economy during the 1930s, however, Mexicans and Mexican Americans became targets for discrimination and removal. White government officials claimed that Mexican immigrants made up the majority of the California unemployed. White trade unions claimed that Mexican immigrants were taking jobs that should go to white men. In reality, a new supply of white refugees desperate for jobs was flooding California from the Midwest, making up the majority of the unemployed.

http://www.museumca.org/picturethis/3_2.html

[CA renter]

History repeats itself:

Mexican and Mexican American workers often earned more in the United States than they could in Mexico’s civil war economy, although California farmers paid Mexican and Mexican American workers significantly less than white American workers. By the 1920s, at least three quarters of California’s 200,000 farm workers were Mexican or Mexican American.

As this rapid shift of Mexico’s working population occurred, the first labor agreement between the United States and Mexico was formed. Mexico required that U.S. farm owners provide legal contracts for all Mexican workers guaranteeing conditions such as wages and work schedules. The U.S. government, in turn, enforced the border between the United States and Mexico, checking that all Mexican immigrants had the proper work contract so they would not be exploited.

As the Great Depression took a toll on California’s economy during the 1930s, however, Mexicans and Mexican Americans became targets for discrimination and removal. White government officials claimed that Mexican immigrants made up the majority of the California unemployed. White trade unions claimed that Mexican immigrants were taking jobs that should go to white men. In reality, a new supply of white refugees desperate for jobs was flooding California from the Midwest, making up the majority of the unemployed.

http://www.museumca.org/picturethis/3_2.html

[CA renter]

History repeats itself:

Mexican and Mexican American workers often earned more in the United States than they could in Mexico’s civil war economy, although California farmers paid Mexican and Mexican American workers significantly less than white American workers. By the 1920s, at least three quarters of California’s 200,000 farm workers were Mexican or Mexican American.

As this rapid shift of Mexico’s working population occurred, the first labor agreement between the United States and Mexico was formed. Mexico required that U.S. farm owners provide legal contracts for all Mexican workers guaranteeing conditions such as wages and work schedules. The U.S. government, in turn, enforced the border between the United States and Mexico, checking that all Mexican immigrants had the proper work contract so they would not be exploited.

As the Great Depression took a toll on California’s economy during the 1930s, however, Mexicans and Mexican Americans became targets for discrimination and removal. White government officials claimed that Mexican immigrants made up the majority of the California unemployed. White trade unions claimed that Mexican immigrants were taking jobs that should go to white men. In reality, a new supply of white refugees desperate for jobs was flooding California from the Midwest, making up the majority of the unemployed.

http://www.museumca.org/picturethis/3_2.html

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