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[davelj]

[quote=KSMountain]Wow. I’d have to say this thread has been hijacked.

The “life is only about my own mind and body and the stories I can tell about it” approach is kinda depressing to me.

If you do good for someone else, true, *you* can only experience your perception of your good work, but in fact, if you really helped that person, then their life is changed and you have indeed affected something external to yourself.

Over the course of a life you may be able to affect many many others positively…

I guess that would be one strategy for a life.

Another might be pure hedonism. Why not.

Equally valid approaches I guess. Although given we live in an interconnected society, I guess some approaches are more beneficial to the “tribe” than others…[/quote]

Suggesting that hedonism and charity are mutually exclusive is absurd. I get immense pleasure from helping others. Otherwise I wouldn’t bother. (Of course, I also get pleasure from planning the demise of certain others when the opportunity arises – but I digress.) But, regardless of whether or not I’ve “affected something external to myself,” it’s only my perception of it that really matters. Because when I die, I won’t perceive anything.

[KSMountain]

Yeah they’re not exclusive. Didn’t mean to imply that. I suppose you could even have a policy of being hedonistic only odd numbered days and charitable the rest of the time. Could you truly be charitable and hedonistic at the same time? Not sure.

I still don’t agree with this last of yours:
“it’s only my perception of it that really matters. Because when I die, I won’t perceive anything.”

Your works can outlive you. I agree they won’t matter to *you* (religious predictions aside), but they still could matter to others.

I didn’t know any Stevie Ray Vaughan tunes until he was already dead (unfortunately). They may not matter to *him* anymore, but they do to me…

Children and grandchildren of course are obvious examples of “works” that will likely outlive you.

[KSMountain]

Yeah they’re not exclusive. Didn’t mean to imply that. I suppose you could even have a policy of being hedonistic only odd numbered days and charitable the rest of the time. Could you truly be charitable and hedonistic at the same time? Not sure.

I still don’t agree with this last of yours:
“it’s only my perception of it that really matters. Because when I die, I won’t perceive anything.”

Your works can outlive you. I agree they won’t matter to *you* (religious predictions aside), but they still could matter to others.

I didn’t know any Stevie Ray Vaughan tunes until he was already dead (unfortunately). They may not matter to *him* anymore, but they do to me…

Children and grandchildren of course are obvious examples of “works” that will likely outlive you.

[KSMountain]

Yeah they’re not exclusive. Didn’t mean to imply that. I suppose you could even have a policy of being hedonistic only odd numbered days and charitable the rest of the time. Could you truly be charitable and hedonistic at the same time? Not sure.

I still don’t agree with this last of yours:
“it’s only my perception of it that really matters. Because when I die, I won’t perceive anything.”

Your works can outlive you. I agree they won’t matter to *you* (religious predictions aside), but they still could matter to others.

I didn’t know any Stevie Ray Vaughan tunes until he was already dead (unfortunately). They may not matter to *him* anymore, but they do to me…

Children and grandchildren of course are obvious examples of “works” that will likely outlive you.

[KSMountain]

Yeah they’re not exclusive. Didn’t mean to imply that. I suppose you could even have a policy of being hedonistic only odd numbered days and charitable the rest of the time. Could you truly be charitable and hedonistic at the same time? Not sure.

I still don’t agree with this last of yours:
“it’s only my perception of it that really matters. Because when I die, I won’t perceive anything.”

Your works can outlive you. I agree they won’t matter to *you* (religious predictions aside), but they still could matter to others.

I didn’t know any Stevie Ray Vaughan tunes until he was already dead (unfortunately). They may not matter to *him* anymore, but they do to me…

Children and grandchildren of course are obvious examples of “works” that will likely outlive you.

[KSMountain]

Yeah they’re not exclusive. Didn’t mean to imply that. I suppose you could even have a policy of being hedonistic only odd numbered days and charitable the rest of the time. Could you truly be charitable and hedonistic at the same time? Not sure.

I still don’t agree with this last of yours:
“it’s only my perception of it that really matters. Because when I die, I won’t perceive anything.”

Your works can outlive you. I agree they won’t matter to *you* (religious predictions aside), but they still could matter to others.

I didn’t know any Stevie Ray Vaughan tunes until he was already dead (unfortunately). They may not matter to *him* anymore, but they do to me…

Children and grandchildren of course are obvious examples of “works” that will likely outlive you.

[Aecetia]

Okay, I will say it.: Hitler. Are you happy now?

[Aecetia]

Okay, I will say it.: Hitler. Are you happy now?

[Aecetia]

Okay, I will say it.: Hitler. Are you happy now?

[Aecetia]

Okay, I will say it.: Hitler. Are you happy now?

[Aecetia]

Okay, I will say it.: Hitler. Are you happy now?

[fredo4]

[quote=davelj][quote=fredo4]

OK fine. You don’t like the heroin idea I take it. My sister-in-law could totally set you up, if you do. She’s been feeling excellent for nearly twenty years now.[/quote]

Drugs have no appeal to me whatsoever. Generically, drug addicts are unhappy with their existences and seek to escape reality through artificial means. I quite enjoy my real life and have no interest in “escaping” it.

I’ve never had an illegal drug, including pot, although I support the legalization of all drugs. I didn’t start drinking until I was 34, and do occasionally like to have a few beers. I’ve never been shitfaced. But getting a moderate buzz going in the presence of entertaining company is one of life’s pleasures. Moderation in all things. Including moderation.[/quote]

But if it’s pleasure you’re after (because life has no point), it’s all just a matter of brain chemistry. Whether you have an abundance of dopamine and norepinephrine provided by drugs or by a few beers and “entertaining” company, it’s all essentially the same.

[fredo4]

[quote=davelj][quote=fredo4]

OK fine. You don’t like the heroin idea I take it. My sister-in-law could totally set you up, if you do. She’s been feeling excellent for nearly twenty years now.[/quote]

Drugs have no appeal to me whatsoever. Generically, drug addicts are unhappy with their existences and seek to escape reality through artificial means. I quite enjoy my real life and have no interest in “escaping” it.

I’ve never had an illegal drug, including pot, although I support the legalization of all drugs. I didn’t start drinking until I was 34, and do occasionally like to have a few beers. I’ve never been shitfaced. But getting a moderate buzz going in the presence of entertaining company is one of life’s pleasures. Moderation in all things. Including moderation.[/quote]

But if it’s pleasure you’re after (because life has no point), it’s all just a matter of brain chemistry. Whether you have an abundance of dopamine and norepinephrine provided by drugs or by a few beers and “entertaining” company, it’s all essentially the same.

[fredo4]

[quote=davelj][quote=fredo4]

OK fine. You don’t like the heroin idea I take it. My sister-in-law could totally set you up, if you do. She’s been feeling excellent for nearly twenty years now.[/quote]

Drugs have no appeal to me whatsoever. Generically, drug addicts are unhappy with their existences and seek to escape reality through artificial means. I quite enjoy my real life and have no interest in “escaping” it.

I’ve never had an illegal drug, including pot, although I support the legalization of all drugs. I didn’t start drinking until I was 34, and do occasionally like to have a few beers. I’ve never been shitfaced. But getting a moderate buzz going in the presence of entertaining company is one of life’s pleasures. Moderation in all things. Including moderation.[/quote]

But if it’s pleasure you’re after (because life has no point), it’s all just a matter of brain chemistry. Whether you have an abundance of dopamine and norepinephrine provided by drugs or by a few beers and “entertaining” company, it’s all essentially the same.

[fredo4]

[quote=davelj][quote=fredo4]

OK fine. You don’t like the heroin idea I take it. My sister-in-law could totally set you up, if you do. She’s been feeling excellent for nearly twenty years now.[/quote]

Drugs have no appeal to me whatsoever. Generically, drug addicts are unhappy with their existences and seek to escape reality through artificial means. I quite enjoy my real life and have no interest in “escaping” it.

I’ve never had an illegal drug, including pot, although I support the legalization of all drugs. I didn’t start drinking until I was 34, and do occasionally like to have a few beers. I’ve never been shitfaced. But getting a moderate buzz going in the presence of entertaining company is one of life’s pleasures. Moderation in all things. Including moderation.[/quote]

But if it’s pleasure you’re after (because life has no point), it’s all just a matter of brain chemistry. Whether you have an abundance of dopamine and norepinephrine provided by drugs or by a few beers and “entertaining” company, it’s all essentially the same.

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