Thoughts on the passage of the health care bill?

[air_ogi]

The funniest part of all of this, is that passed legislation is very similar to the Republican 1993 counter proposal.

http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/Graphics/2010/022310-Bill-comparison.aspx

So I guess Rush is right. The country is definitely moving to the right.

[Arraya]

[quote=air_ogi]The funniest part of all of this, is that passed legislation is very similar to the Republican 1993 counter proposal.

http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/Graphics/2010/022310-Bill-comparison.aspx

So I guess Rush is right. The country is definitely moving to the right.[/quote]

Rush is entirely correct. This country has been bludgeoned to idiocy with corporate propaganda for decades. So much so, that Obama is to the right of Nixon and people are still crying communism.

Really, it’s a victory for the right, since it was their proposal. They should just brag about stopping universal healthcare and fattening up the insurance industry and call it a day.

[Arraya]

[quote=air_ogi]The funniest part of all of this, is that passed legislation is very similar to the Republican 1993 counter proposal.

http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/Graphics/2010/022310-Bill-comparison.aspx

So I guess Rush is right. The country is definitely moving to the right.[/quote]

Rush is entirely correct. This country has been bludgeoned to idiocy with corporate propaganda for decades. So much so, that Obama is to the right of Nixon and people are still crying communism.

Really, it’s a victory for the right, since it was their proposal. They should just brag about stopping universal healthcare and fattening up the insurance industry and call it a day.

[Arraya]

[quote=air_ogi]The funniest part of all of this, is that passed legislation is very similar to the Republican 1993 counter proposal.

http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/Graphics/2010/022310-Bill-comparison.aspx

So I guess Rush is right. The country is definitely moving to the right.[/quote]

Rush is entirely correct. This country has been bludgeoned to idiocy with corporate propaganda for decades. So much so, that Obama is to the right of Nixon and people are still crying communism.

Really, it’s a victory for the right, since it was their proposal. They should just brag about stopping universal healthcare and fattening up the insurance industry and call it a day.

[Arraya]

[quote=air_ogi]The funniest part of all of this, is that passed legislation is very similar to the Republican 1993 counter proposal.

http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/Graphics/2010/022310-Bill-comparison.aspx

So I guess Rush is right. The country is definitely moving to the right.[/quote]

Rush is entirely correct. This country has been bludgeoned to idiocy with corporate propaganda for decades. So much so, that Obama is to the right of Nixon and people are still crying communism.

Really, it’s a victory for the right, since it was their proposal. They should just brag about stopping universal healthcare and fattening up the insurance industry and call it a day.

[Arraya]

[quote=air_ogi]The funniest part of all of this, is that passed legislation is very similar to the Republican 1993 counter proposal.

http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/Graphics/2010/022310-Bill-comparison.aspx

So I guess Rush is right. The country is definitely moving to the right.[/quote]

Rush is entirely correct. This country has been bludgeoned to idiocy with corporate propaganda for decades. So much so, that Obama is to the right of Nixon and people are still crying communism.

Really, it’s a victory for the right, since it was their proposal. They should just brag about stopping universal healthcare and fattening up the insurance industry and call it a day.

[danielwis]

I don’t want to live in a country where 40 million do not have health care, and in 10 years 60 million do not have health care. I do not want to live in a country where social unrest breeds do to increasing numbers of disaffected people, without health care, and without adequate work/pay to put a roof over their head.

I believe we can do better, and with this bill, I believe we are going to do better. I have health insurance/health care, and I want everyone in this country to also have health care.

[danielwis]

I don’t want to live in a country where 40 million do not have health care, and in 10 years 60 million do not have health care. I do not want to live in a country where social unrest breeds do to increasing numbers of disaffected people, without health care, and without adequate work/pay to put a roof over their head.

I believe we can do better, and with this bill, I believe we are going to do better. I have health insurance/health care, and I want everyone in this country to also have health care.

[danielwis]

I don’t want to live in a country where 40 million do not have health care, and in 10 years 60 million do not have health care. I do not want to live in a country where social unrest breeds do to increasing numbers of disaffected people, without health care, and without adequate work/pay to put a roof over their head.

I believe we can do better, and with this bill, I believe we are going to do better. I have health insurance/health care, and I want everyone in this country to also have health care.

[danielwis]

I don’t want to live in a country where 40 million do not have health care, and in 10 years 60 million do not have health care. I do not want to live in a country where social unrest breeds do to increasing numbers of disaffected people, without health care, and without adequate work/pay to put a roof over their head.

I believe we can do better, and with this bill, I believe we are going to do better. I have health insurance/health care, and I want everyone in this country to also have health care.

[danielwis]

I don’t want to live in a country where 40 million do not have health care, and in 10 years 60 million do not have health care. I do not want to live in a country where social unrest breeds do to increasing numbers of disaffected people, without health care, and without adequate work/pay to put a roof over their head.

I believe we can do better, and with this bill, I believe we are going to do better. I have health insurance/health care, and I want everyone in this country to also have health care.

[danielwis]

[quote=AN][quote=air_ogi]43% oppose it for being too liberal
39% favor it
13% oppose it for not being liberal enough
3% oppose it for some indeterminate reasons

so 52% of Americans went this reform or more liberal.[/quote]
By that math, wouldn’t that mean 82% of Americans want this reform or less liberal? I think 82% > 52%.[/quote]

No because you can’t add those that think we need reform, but its not liberal enough, to those that do not want reform and think its too liberal.

You can add those that favor, and those that think it didn’t go far enough, because both groups support reform. The majority want real reform, and 13 % want even more than what the bill offered.

[danielwis]

[quote=AN][quote=air_ogi]43% oppose it for being too liberal
39% favor it
13% oppose it for not being liberal enough
3% oppose it for some indeterminate reasons

so 52% of Americans went this reform or more liberal.[/quote]
By that math, wouldn’t that mean 82% of Americans want this reform or less liberal? I think 82% > 52%.[/quote]

No because you can’t add those that think we need reform, but its not liberal enough, to those that do not want reform and think its too liberal.

You can add those that favor, and those that think it didn’t go far enough, because both groups support reform. The majority want real reform, and 13 % want even more than what the bill offered.

[danielwis]

[quote=AN][quote=air_ogi]43% oppose it for being too liberal
39% favor it
13% oppose it for not being liberal enough
3% oppose it for some indeterminate reasons

so 52% of Americans went this reform or more liberal.[/quote]
By that math, wouldn’t that mean 82% of Americans want this reform or less liberal? I think 82% > 52%.[/quote]

No because you can’t add those that think we need reform, but its not liberal enough, to those that do not want reform and think its too liberal.

You can add those that favor, and those that think it didn’t go far enough, because both groups support reform. The majority want real reform, and 13 % want even more than what the bill offered.

[danielwis]

[quote=AN][quote=air_ogi]43% oppose it for being too liberal
39% favor it
13% oppose it for not being liberal enough
3% oppose it for some indeterminate reasons

so 52% of Americans went this reform or more liberal.[/quote]
By that math, wouldn’t that mean 82% of Americans want this reform or less liberal? I think 82% > 52%.[/quote]

No because you can’t add those that think we need reform, but its not liberal enough, to those that do not want reform and think its too liberal.

You can add those that favor, and those that think it didn’t go far enough, because both groups support reform. The majority want real reform, and 13 % want even more than what the bill offered.

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