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February 20, 2011 at 9:56 PM #670118February 20, 2011 at 10:18 PM #668977CA renterParticipant
[quote=paramount]Change is Coming:
A friend of mine from RB put this music video together:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYFzd9gWmLU%5B/quote%5D
Yes, a tremendous amount of destruction has been going on, but not a single thing in that video was due to govt workers. I guess that’s the point I’m trying to make — they are making union workers the scapegoat, and those who created the crisis are slipping away, unscathed.
Thanks for the debate, Paramount. I sincerely wish you and your family the very best.
February 20, 2011 at 10:18 PM #669039CA renterParticipant[quote=paramount]Change is Coming:
A friend of mine from RB put this music video together:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYFzd9gWmLU%5B/quote%5D
Yes, a tremendous amount of destruction has been going on, but not a single thing in that video was due to govt workers. I guess that’s the point I’m trying to make — they are making union workers the scapegoat, and those who created the crisis are slipping away, unscathed.
Thanks for the debate, Paramount. I sincerely wish you and your family the very best.
February 20, 2011 at 10:18 PM #669646CA renterParticipant[quote=paramount]Change is Coming:
A friend of mine from RB put this music video together:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYFzd9gWmLU%5B/quote%5D
Yes, a tremendous amount of destruction has been going on, but not a single thing in that video was due to govt workers. I guess that’s the point I’m trying to make — they are making union workers the scapegoat, and those who created the crisis are slipping away, unscathed.
Thanks for the debate, Paramount. I sincerely wish you and your family the very best.
February 20, 2011 at 10:18 PM #669785CA renterParticipant[quote=paramount]Change is Coming:
A friend of mine from RB put this music video together:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYFzd9gWmLU%5B/quote%5D
Yes, a tremendous amount of destruction has been going on, but not a single thing in that video was due to govt workers. I guess that’s the point I’m trying to make — they are making union workers the scapegoat, and those who created the crisis are slipping away, unscathed.
Thanks for the debate, Paramount. I sincerely wish you and your family the very best.
February 20, 2011 at 10:18 PM #670128CA renterParticipant[quote=paramount]Change is Coming:
A friend of mine from RB put this music video together:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYFzd9gWmLU%5B/quote%5D
Yes, a tremendous amount of destruction has been going on, but not a single thing in that video was due to govt workers. I guess that’s the point I’m trying to make — they are making union workers the scapegoat, and those who created the crisis are slipping away, unscathed.
Thanks for the debate, Paramount. I sincerely wish you and your family the very best.
February 22, 2011 at 9:27 AM #669447jeemanParticipant“BTW, our states are not going broke because of the unions. They are going broke because of the boom/bust policies of the Federal Reserve.”
CAR,
Actually, it was the policies of the Federal Reserve that helped us to realize what kind of untenable commitment we made as states. As Warren Buffett says, “you don’t know who is swimming naked until the tide goes back out”.
As income tax revenues declined, and people lost their jobs, and thus sales tax revenues declined, we have in place these hard budget promises of lavish pensions of over $1M/employee (not just teachers).
I see that as far as tax revenue, the natural business cycle went into a bust period, so you are correct there. But states are unable to be nimble because of the spending that the public unions are unwilling to cut.
And then they go on strike against their boss…which is you and me. They want blood from a stone.
February 22, 2011 at 9:27 AM #669509jeemanParticipant“BTW, our states are not going broke because of the unions. They are going broke because of the boom/bust policies of the Federal Reserve.”
CAR,
Actually, it was the policies of the Federal Reserve that helped us to realize what kind of untenable commitment we made as states. As Warren Buffett says, “you don’t know who is swimming naked until the tide goes back out”.
As income tax revenues declined, and people lost their jobs, and thus sales tax revenues declined, we have in place these hard budget promises of lavish pensions of over $1M/employee (not just teachers).
I see that as far as tax revenue, the natural business cycle went into a bust period, so you are correct there. But states are unable to be nimble because of the spending that the public unions are unwilling to cut.
And then they go on strike against their boss…which is you and me. They want blood from a stone.
February 22, 2011 at 9:27 AM #670116jeemanParticipant“BTW, our states are not going broke because of the unions. They are going broke because of the boom/bust policies of the Federal Reserve.”
CAR,
Actually, it was the policies of the Federal Reserve that helped us to realize what kind of untenable commitment we made as states. As Warren Buffett says, “you don’t know who is swimming naked until the tide goes back out”.
As income tax revenues declined, and people lost their jobs, and thus sales tax revenues declined, we have in place these hard budget promises of lavish pensions of over $1M/employee (not just teachers).
I see that as far as tax revenue, the natural business cycle went into a bust period, so you are correct there. But states are unable to be nimble because of the spending that the public unions are unwilling to cut.
And then they go on strike against their boss…which is you and me. They want blood from a stone.
February 22, 2011 at 9:27 AM #670255jeemanParticipant“BTW, our states are not going broke because of the unions. They are going broke because of the boom/bust policies of the Federal Reserve.”
CAR,
Actually, it was the policies of the Federal Reserve that helped us to realize what kind of untenable commitment we made as states. As Warren Buffett says, “you don’t know who is swimming naked until the tide goes back out”.
As income tax revenues declined, and people lost their jobs, and thus sales tax revenues declined, we have in place these hard budget promises of lavish pensions of over $1M/employee (not just teachers).
I see that as far as tax revenue, the natural business cycle went into a bust period, so you are correct there. But states are unable to be nimble because of the spending that the public unions are unwilling to cut.
And then they go on strike against their boss…which is you and me. They want blood from a stone.
February 22, 2011 at 9:27 AM #670599jeemanParticipant“BTW, our states are not going broke because of the unions. They are going broke because of the boom/bust policies of the Federal Reserve.”
CAR,
Actually, it was the policies of the Federal Reserve that helped us to realize what kind of untenable commitment we made as states. As Warren Buffett says, “you don’t know who is swimming naked until the tide goes back out”.
As income tax revenues declined, and people lost their jobs, and thus sales tax revenues declined, we have in place these hard budget promises of lavish pensions of over $1M/employee (not just teachers).
I see that as far as tax revenue, the natural business cycle went into a bust period, so you are correct there. But states are unable to be nimble because of the spending that the public unions are unwilling to cut.
And then they go on strike against their boss…which is you and me. They want blood from a stone.
February 22, 2011 at 9:35 AM #669452ArrayaParticipantIt ain’t robbery, it’s a business cycle
As the people’s wealth accumulates, it is steadily siphoned off by government and elite private forces. From time to time, it is openly plundered for their benefit by way of various bubbles, depressions or recessions and other forms of theft passed off as unavoidable acts of nature/god. These periodic raids and draw downs of the people’s wealth are attributed to “business cycles.” Past periodic raids and thefts are heralded as being proof of the rationale. “See folks, it comes and goes, so it’s a cycle!” Economic raids and busts become “market adjustments.” Public blackmail and plundering through bailouts become a “necessary rescue packages.” Giveaways to corporations under the guise of public works and creating employment become “stimulus.” The chief responsibility of economists is to name things in accordance with government and corporate interests. The function of the public is to acquire debt and maintain “consumer confidence.” When the public staggers to its feet again and manages to carry more debt, buy more poker chips on credit to play again, it’s called a recovery. They are back in the game.
Dealer, hit me with two more cards,. I feel lucky.
February 22, 2011 at 9:35 AM #669514ArrayaParticipantIt ain’t robbery, it’s a business cycle
As the people’s wealth accumulates, it is steadily siphoned off by government and elite private forces. From time to time, it is openly plundered for their benefit by way of various bubbles, depressions or recessions and other forms of theft passed off as unavoidable acts of nature/god. These periodic raids and draw downs of the people’s wealth are attributed to “business cycles.” Past periodic raids and thefts are heralded as being proof of the rationale. “See folks, it comes and goes, so it’s a cycle!” Economic raids and busts become “market adjustments.” Public blackmail and plundering through bailouts become a “necessary rescue packages.” Giveaways to corporations under the guise of public works and creating employment become “stimulus.” The chief responsibility of economists is to name things in accordance with government and corporate interests. The function of the public is to acquire debt and maintain “consumer confidence.” When the public staggers to its feet again and manages to carry more debt, buy more poker chips on credit to play again, it’s called a recovery. They are back in the game.
Dealer, hit me with two more cards,. I feel lucky.
February 22, 2011 at 9:35 AM #670121ArrayaParticipantIt ain’t robbery, it’s a business cycle
As the people’s wealth accumulates, it is steadily siphoned off by government and elite private forces. From time to time, it is openly plundered for their benefit by way of various bubbles, depressions or recessions and other forms of theft passed off as unavoidable acts of nature/god. These periodic raids and draw downs of the people’s wealth are attributed to “business cycles.” Past periodic raids and thefts are heralded as being proof of the rationale. “See folks, it comes and goes, so it’s a cycle!” Economic raids and busts become “market adjustments.” Public blackmail and plundering through bailouts become a “necessary rescue packages.” Giveaways to corporations under the guise of public works and creating employment become “stimulus.” The chief responsibility of economists is to name things in accordance with government and corporate interests. The function of the public is to acquire debt and maintain “consumer confidence.” When the public staggers to its feet again and manages to carry more debt, buy more poker chips on credit to play again, it’s called a recovery. They are back in the game.
Dealer, hit me with two more cards,. I feel lucky.
February 22, 2011 at 9:35 AM #670260ArrayaParticipantIt ain’t robbery, it’s a business cycle
As the people’s wealth accumulates, it is steadily siphoned off by government and elite private forces. From time to time, it is openly plundered for their benefit by way of various bubbles, depressions or recessions and other forms of theft passed off as unavoidable acts of nature/god. These periodic raids and draw downs of the people’s wealth are attributed to “business cycles.” Past periodic raids and thefts are heralded as being proof of the rationale. “See folks, it comes and goes, so it’s a cycle!” Economic raids and busts become “market adjustments.” Public blackmail and plundering through bailouts become a “necessary rescue packages.” Giveaways to corporations under the guise of public works and creating employment become “stimulus.” The chief responsibility of economists is to name things in accordance with government and corporate interests. The function of the public is to acquire debt and maintain “consumer confidence.” When the public staggers to its feet again and manages to carry more debt, buy more poker chips on credit to play again, it’s called a recovery. They are back in the game.
Dealer, hit me with two more cards,. I feel lucky.
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