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March 27, 2010 at 11:53 AM #533089March 27, 2010 at 11:59 AM #532155daveljParticipant
[quote=AN][quote=briansd1]I watch my sister-in-law and she lives for her child. Without the child they would be divorced already. The child keeps her busy and out of my brother’s hair so it works out just fine. The child gives her purpose in life.
Sure my brother loves his kid but it was more for her than for him.
BTW, it was supposed to be an “accident”. Sure it was.[/quote]
Two people giving up personal happiness for the happiness and betterment of another person. Sounds pretty selfless to me. When’s the last time you sacrifice your own happiness for the happiness of another?[/quote]Virtually every act is an act of selfishness in some way, shape or form. Altruism is a myth. When I stroke a check for $1,000 to Smile Train it’s because I derive pleasure from the idea that I’m improving the lives of kids with cleft palates. Yes, I’m helping other folks, but ultimately it’s about me and what I get out of the act.
March 27, 2010 at 11:59 AM #532285daveljParticipant[quote=AN][quote=briansd1]I watch my sister-in-law and she lives for her child. Without the child they would be divorced already. The child keeps her busy and out of my brother’s hair so it works out just fine. The child gives her purpose in life.
Sure my brother loves his kid but it was more for her than for him.
BTW, it was supposed to be an “accident”. Sure it was.[/quote]
Two people giving up personal happiness for the happiness and betterment of another person. Sounds pretty selfless to me. When’s the last time you sacrifice your own happiness for the happiness of another?[/quote]Virtually every act is an act of selfishness in some way, shape or form. Altruism is a myth. When I stroke a check for $1,000 to Smile Train it’s because I derive pleasure from the idea that I’m improving the lives of kids with cleft palates. Yes, I’m helping other folks, but ultimately it’s about me and what I get out of the act.
March 27, 2010 at 11:59 AM #532736daveljParticipant[quote=AN][quote=briansd1]I watch my sister-in-law and she lives for her child. Without the child they would be divorced already. The child keeps her busy and out of my brother’s hair so it works out just fine. The child gives her purpose in life.
Sure my brother loves his kid but it was more for her than for him.
BTW, it was supposed to be an “accident”. Sure it was.[/quote]
Two people giving up personal happiness for the happiness and betterment of another person. Sounds pretty selfless to me. When’s the last time you sacrifice your own happiness for the happiness of another?[/quote]Virtually every act is an act of selfishness in some way, shape or form. Altruism is a myth. When I stroke a check for $1,000 to Smile Train it’s because I derive pleasure from the idea that I’m improving the lives of kids with cleft palates. Yes, I’m helping other folks, but ultimately it’s about me and what I get out of the act.
March 27, 2010 at 11:59 AM #532834daveljParticipant[quote=AN][quote=briansd1]I watch my sister-in-law and she lives for her child. Without the child they would be divorced already. The child keeps her busy and out of my brother’s hair so it works out just fine. The child gives her purpose in life.
Sure my brother loves his kid but it was more for her than for him.
BTW, it was supposed to be an “accident”. Sure it was.[/quote]
Two people giving up personal happiness for the happiness and betterment of another person. Sounds pretty selfless to me. When’s the last time you sacrifice your own happiness for the happiness of another?[/quote]Virtually every act is an act of selfishness in some way, shape or form. Altruism is a myth. When I stroke a check for $1,000 to Smile Train it’s because I derive pleasure from the idea that I’m improving the lives of kids with cleft palates. Yes, I’m helping other folks, but ultimately it’s about me and what I get out of the act.
March 27, 2010 at 11:59 AM #533094daveljParticipant[quote=AN][quote=briansd1]I watch my sister-in-law and she lives for her child. Without the child they would be divorced already. The child keeps her busy and out of my brother’s hair so it works out just fine. The child gives her purpose in life.
Sure my brother loves his kid but it was more for her than for him.
BTW, it was supposed to be an “accident”. Sure it was.[/quote]
Two people giving up personal happiness for the happiness and betterment of another person. Sounds pretty selfless to me. When’s the last time you sacrifice your own happiness for the happiness of another?[/quote]Virtually every act is an act of selfishness in some way, shape or form. Altruism is a myth. When I stroke a check for $1,000 to Smile Train it’s because I derive pleasure from the idea that I’m improving the lives of kids with cleft palates. Yes, I’m helping other folks, but ultimately it’s about me and what I get out of the act.
March 27, 2010 at 12:20 PM #532176anParticipantDavelj, yes I agree that no action is 100% altruistic. However, like most things in life, selfishness and selflessness is not black and white. You giving your time and or money to a charity is more altruistic than if you spend that money/time on yourself. In Brian’s example, the parents could have easily gotten divorced. However, according to Brian, they didn’t because of the kids. Giving up one’s happiness for another happiness is pretty altruistic to me. Not 100% altruistic, but much more altruistic than kicking your kids to the curb and get a divorce.
March 27, 2010 at 12:20 PM #532305anParticipantDavelj, yes I agree that no action is 100% altruistic. However, like most things in life, selfishness and selflessness is not black and white. You giving your time and or money to a charity is more altruistic than if you spend that money/time on yourself. In Brian’s example, the parents could have easily gotten divorced. However, according to Brian, they didn’t because of the kids. Giving up one’s happiness for another happiness is pretty altruistic to me. Not 100% altruistic, but much more altruistic than kicking your kids to the curb and get a divorce.
March 27, 2010 at 12:20 PM #532756anParticipantDavelj, yes I agree that no action is 100% altruistic. However, like most things in life, selfishness and selflessness is not black and white. You giving your time and or money to a charity is more altruistic than if you spend that money/time on yourself. In Brian’s example, the parents could have easily gotten divorced. However, according to Brian, they didn’t because of the kids. Giving up one’s happiness for another happiness is pretty altruistic to me. Not 100% altruistic, but much more altruistic than kicking your kids to the curb and get a divorce.
March 27, 2010 at 12:20 PM #532854anParticipantDavelj, yes I agree that no action is 100% altruistic. However, like most things in life, selfishness and selflessness is not black and white. You giving your time and or money to a charity is more altruistic than if you spend that money/time on yourself. In Brian’s example, the parents could have easily gotten divorced. However, according to Brian, they didn’t because of the kids. Giving up one’s happiness for another happiness is pretty altruistic to me. Not 100% altruistic, but much more altruistic than kicking your kids to the curb and get a divorce.
March 27, 2010 at 12:20 PM #533113anParticipantDavelj, yes I agree that no action is 100% altruistic. However, like most things in life, selfishness and selflessness is not black and white. You giving your time and or money to a charity is more altruistic than if you spend that money/time on yourself. In Brian’s example, the parents could have easily gotten divorced. However, according to Brian, they didn’t because of the kids. Giving up one’s happiness for another happiness is pretty altruistic to me. Not 100% altruistic, but much more altruistic than kicking your kids to the curb and get a divorce.
March 27, 2010 at 12:25 PM #532181HobieParticipantIs this the part were our liberal friends insert the, “It Takes a Village” and all is well argument. π
March 27, 2010 at 12:25 PM #532309HobieParticipantIs this the part were our liberal friends insert the, “It Takes a Village” and all is well argument. π
March 27, 2010 at 12:25 PM #532761HobieParticipantIs this the part were our liberal friends insert the, “It Takes a Village” and all is well argument. π
March 27, 2010 at 12:25 PM #532859HobieParticipantIs this the part were our liberal friends insert the, “It Takes a Village” and all is well argument. π
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