The Great California Exodus

[peterb]

Of the over 10M people that have come to CA in the last 12-15 years, only 150K pay any income taxes. This cannot be sustained.

[jstoesz]

I am trying to leave, but I was not born here, so net zero. My wife on the other hand…

[jstoesz]

Btw, I love ca, but the middle class vibe is really a drag. His did so many smart people get so stupid? I wish it wasn’t so.

[desmond]

[quote=sdrealtor]Not in the Los Padres forest[/quote]

Only on dirt

[Anonymous]

[quote=peterb]Of the over 10M people that have come to CA in the last 12-15 years, only 150K pay any income taxes. This cannot be sustained.[/quote]

What’s the source for that data?

[sdrealtor]

[quote=peterb]Of the over 10M people that have come to CA in the last 12-15 years, only 150K pay any income taxes. This cannot be sustained.[/quote]

How much more Laid Back can you get than 10M freeloaders?

FWIW wonder how many of those are children and college students

[briansd1]

[quote=bearishgurl]
This issue has been debated over and over again for the last 30 years or so.[/quote]

[quote=flu]
The issue though really isn’t just california. It’s the entire world.

* The entire world is smaller, it’s inherently more competitive, competing for resources… Twenty years ago, globalization wasn’t nearly as pronounced as it was before. Now people here compete not only with each other but abroad.
[/quote]

You guys are right on.

I’m sick for those people who think that California or a region belongs to them and that they and they children should be able to enjoy it until eternity without doing anything different.

The world changes. You have to embrace the new world and adapt to it. Otherwise, you become disillusioned and bitter.

The people who are leaving because they can’t make it here are no loss, IMHO.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=briansd1][quote=bearishgurl]
This issue has been debated over and over again for the last 30 years or so.[/quote]

[quote=flu]
The issue though really isn’t just california. It’s the entire world.

* The entire world is smaller, it’s inherently more competitive, competing for resources… Twenty years ago, globalization wasn’t nearly as pronounced as it was before. Now people here compete not only with each other but abroad.
[/quote]

You guys are right on.

I’m sick for those people who think that California or a region belongs to them and that they and they children should be able to enjoy it until eternity without doing anything different.

The world changes. You have to embrace the new world and adapt to it. Otherwise, you become disillusioned and bitter.

The people who are leaving because they can’t make it here are no loss, IMHO.[/quote]

Agree with the emphasized sentence, brian. However, I believe CA “belongs” to all its residents. Unfortunately, only a very small minority of its population is vocal and persistent enough to effect policy change and/or keep Big Development from raping all the land we have. We cannot depend on our PTB’s to protect CA’s environment and quality of life because they themselves depend on Big Development for their campaign funds and to propose and create endless CFD’s to bring in more taxes so as to enlarge their sphere of influence (more employees = more power due to a bigger budget to wield).

This mindset of the typical CA “politico” is very short-sighted because it fails to properly take into account and assess the long-term cost of servicing these CFD’s into oblivion (even after the MR bonds are paid off, which has already begun to happen here in SD Co [Chula Vista] between 2007 through 2017).

It is now possible that some of the PTB who over-approved these massive CFD’s during the “millenium boom” (which now encompass mostly “distressed” properties) regret their hasty decisions while in power but their “wake-up call” came too little, too late :={

Many of the “newly-elected” in CA have gone in with the best intentions but then just ended up falling in line with how biz is done in the gubment :=[

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