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August 11, 2007 at 1:56 PM #73484August 11, 2007 at 2:18 PM #73368NotCrankyParticipant
Navy Doc. Have your driven past Malibu to Leo Carrillo state park? It is going to take about an hour from LA.The drive is interesting.Once you get to Leo Carrillo You can start off on the beach, go for a hike for hours through the canyon and foothills (if you want to) then go back down to the beach. I like weekdays after school is back in for this. I think if Torrey Pines is your speed this will do the trick. Another easy day out is the Getty museum. It is up on a hill near Santa Monica. You can go to the museums and then spend some time in the gardens which have vast views of the Pacific.
I don’t know L.A. too well even though I grew up in the next county north. I know when I travel and meet people or have foriegn guests they always hold the opinion L.A. is a world class city.
August 11, 2007 at 2:18 PM #73489NotCrankyParticipantNavy Doc. Have your driven past Malibu to Leo Carrillo state park? It is going to take about an hour from LA.The drive is interesting.Once you get to Leo Carrillo You can start off on the beach, go for a hike for hours through the canyon and foothills (if you want to) then go back down to the beach. I like weekdays after school is back in for this. I think if Torrey Pines is your speed this will do the trick. Another easy day out is the Getty museum. It is up on a hill near Santa Monica. You can go to the museums and then spend some time in the gardens which have vast views of the Pacific.
I don’t know L.A. too well even though I grew up in the next county north. I know when I travel and meet people or have foriegn guests they always hold the opinion L.A. is a world class city.
August 11, 2007 at 2:18 PM #73496NotCrankyParticipantNavy Doc. Have your driven past Malibu to Leo Carrillo state park? It is going to take about an hour from LA.The drive is interesting.Once you get to Leo Carrillo You can start off on the beach, go for a hike for hours through the canyon and foothills (if you want to) then go back down to the beach. I like weekdays after school is back in for this. I think if Torrey Pines is your speed this will do the trick. Another easy day out is the Getty museum. It is up on a hill near Santa Monica. You can go to the museums and then spend some time in the gardens which have vast views of the Pacific.
I don’t know L.A. too well even though I grew up in the next county north. I know when I travel and meet people or have foriegn guests they always hold the opinion L.A. is a world class city.
August 11, 2007 at 2:42 PM #73378one_muggleParticipantYes LA is world class, but my point before was that LA is so many different things, good and bad. IMHO the beach communities are fun, but really crowded, really expensive, and a really hard place to raise a family. The valley is a big crowded suburb, but has everything you can imagine. If you want fun or need a service, you’ve got it. The foothills can be very nice, but are also very expensive right now–not just housing. Most school districts, even in nice neighborhoods, are iffy at best, and private schools run $1k-1.5k per month, per kid.
Crazy as it sounds, I think that if you have a family and do not already own a home, I think you need at least $150k/yr family income as a minimum to make it around the foothills–beach might be a little higher.
BTW: As a preemptive shuush, I realize that some people around here can get by on less, especially if you are DINKs, but I think to raise a family, save for college, save for retirement, pay for housing (rental or mortgage), etc, it is a challenge to get by with less around here–never mind keep up with the Jones’s. Only time will tell if all those Jones’s can really afford their lifestyle, but that is the hot topic of a dozen other forums.-one muggle
August 11, 2007 at 2:42 PM #73497one_muggleParticipantYes LA is world class, but my point before was that LA is so many different things, good and bad. IMHO the beach communities are fun, but really crowded, really expensive, and a really hard place to raise a family. The valley is a big crowded suburb, but has everything you can imagine. If you want fun or need a service, you’ve got it. The foothills can be very nice, but are also very expensive right now–not just housing. Most school districts, even in nice neighborhoods, are iffy at best, and private schools run $1k-1.5k per month, per kid.
Crazy as it sounds, I think that if you have a family and do not already own a home, I think you need at least $150k/yr family income as a minimum to make it around the foothills–beach might be a little higher.
BTW: As a preemptive shuush, I realize that some people around here can get by on less, especially if you are DINKs, but I think to raise a family, save for college, save for retirement, pay for housing (rental or mortgage), etc, it is a challenge to get by with less around here–never mind keep up with the Jones’s. Only time will tell if all those Jones’s can really afford their lifestyle, but that is the hot topic of a dozen other forums.-one muggle
August 11, 2007 at 2:42 PM #73505one_muggleParticipantYes LA is world class, but my point before was that LA is so many different things, good and bad. IMHO the beach communities are fun, but really crowded, really expensive, and a really hard place to raise a family. The valley is a big crowded suburb, but has everything you can imagine. If you want fun or need a service, you’ve got it. The foothills can be very nice, but are also very expensive right now–not just housing. Most school districts, even in nice neighborhoods, are iffy at best, and private schools run $1k-1.5k per month, per kid.
Crazy as it sounds, I think that if you have a family and do not already own a home, I think you need at least $150k/yr family income as a minimum to make it around the foothills–beach might be a little higher.
BTW: As a preemptive shuush, I realize that some people around here can get by on less, especially if you are DINKs, but I think to raise a family, save for college, save for retirement, pay for housing (rental or mortgage), etc, it is a challenge to get by with less around here–never mind keep up with the Jones’s. Only time will tell if all those Jones’s can really afford their lifestyle, but that is the hot topic of a dozen other forums.-one muggle
August 11, 2007 at 10:35 PM #73537SD RealtorParticipantNavydoc and Tone… Another cool thing is to check out the canals. Basically the canals are about 3 blocks east of Pacific and they lie in between Washington and Venice. Just go down Washington like you are gonna go to the beach… A few blocks before the beach you will see Dell. Make a right and park anywhere on that street. Get out and walk north. You will run into them… they are very cool to just walk around on…
Also if you have kids run them up to the pier at Santa Monica.
Navydoc, yeah the more north you go the more interesting it gets. All kinds of coyotes in that desert. Eventually you break into Santa Monica and it becomes generic again but still nice. If you have stamina walk all the way to the pier and get a hot dog on a stick and a lemonade.
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August 11, 2007 at 10:35 PM #73657SD RealtorParticipantNavydoc and Tone… Another cool thing is to check out the canals. Basically the canals are about 3 blocks east of Pacific and they lie in between Washington and Venice. Just go down Washington like you are gonna go to the beach… A few blocks before the beach you will see Dell. Make a right and park anywhere on that street. Get out and walk north. You will run into them… they are very cool to just walk around on…
Also if you have kids run them up to the pier at Santa Monica.
Navydoc, yeah the more north you go the more interesting it gets. All kinds of coyotes in that desert. Eventually you break into Santa Monica and it becomes generic again but still nice. If you have stamina walk all the way to the pier and get a hot dog on a stick and a lemonade.
SD Realtor
August 11, 2007 at 10:35 PM #73664SD RealtorParticipantNavydoc and Tone… Another cool thing is to check out the canals. Basically the canals are about 3 blocks east of Pacific and they lie in between Washington and Venice. Just go down Washington like you are gonna go to the beach… A few blocks before the beach you will see Dell. Make a right and park anywhere on that street. Get out and walk north. You will run into them… they are very cool to just walk around on…
Also if you have kids run them up to the pier at Santa Monica.
Navydoc, yeah the more north you go the more interesting it gets. All kinds of coyotes in that desert. Eventually you break into Santa Monica and it becomes generic again but still nice. If you have stamina walk all the way to the pier and get a hot dog on a stick and a lemonade.
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