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  • February 4, 2011 at 2:29 PM #663912
    CA renter
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    [quote=Djshakes]I’m not saying it is easy…but it is not one of the most difficult jobs. You have to know your subject at a high school level or less depending on what grade you teach. Other than that you are glorified baby sitter. The only stressful part is trying to keep the kids in their seats while hormones are popping out of their heads. I never understood the teachers that worked until 8 pm planning lessons, etc. Granted it wasn’t many…but I chalked it up to inefficiency.

    The first two years maybe tougher than the rest because you are developing your curriculum. After that you make slight modifications to it. You are arguing that they are underpaid. Well, most of the time compensation is relative to effort.

    I still think they are overpaid. I was a teacher and I have nothing against them.[/quote]

    Knowing the subject matter, and knowing how to teach are two totally different things (both equally important). If you think teachers are “glorified babysitters,” or that the job was easy, you probably weren’t a very good teacher.

    February 4, 2011 at 2:34 PM #662777
    jstoesz
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    Fixed it for you…

    [quote=CA renter]If you think that the job was hard, you probably weren’t a very good teacher.[/quote]

    February 4, 2011 at 2:34 PM #662839
    jstoesz
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    Fixed it for you…

    [quote=CA renter]If you think that the job was hard, you probably weren’t a very good teacher.[/quote]

    February 4, 2011 at 2:34 PM #663442
    jstoesz
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    Fixed it for you…

    [quote=CA renter]If you think that the job was hard, you probably weren’t a very good teacher.[/quote]

    February 4, 2011 at 2:34 PM #663579
    jstoesz
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    Fixed it for you…

    [quote=CA renter]If you think that the job was hard, you probably weren’t a very good teacher.[/quote]

    February 4, 2011 at 2:34 PM #663917
    jstoesz
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    Fixed it for you…

    [quote=CA renter]If you think that the job was hard, you probably weren’t a very good teacher.[/quote]

    February 4, 2011 at 2:46 PM #662782
    Djshakes
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    [quote=CA renter]
    Knowing the subject matter, and knowing how to teach are two totally different things (both equally important). If you think teachers are “glorified babysitters,” or that the job was easy, you probably weren’t a very good teacher.[/quote]

    I went to school and became a credentialed teacher. I thank you for pointing out that knowing subject matter and delivering it are different. I had no idea.

    My enrollment spoke for itself. I am still in touch with some former students and while a teacher I had many students seek personal advice from me. I even once had a female student (18 going on 30) seek my advice after she was raped by a friend of her stripper sister’s boyfriend and became pregnant.

    So when I say glorified babysitter I mean someone who has to keep the kids on task all the way to being a guidance counselor.

    February 4, 2011 at 2:46 PM #662844
    Djshakes
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    [quote=CA renter]
    Knowing the subject matter, and knowing how to teach are two totally different things (both equally important). If you think teachers are “glorified babysitters,” or that the job was easy, you probably weren’t a very good teacher.[/quote]

    I went to school and became a credentialed teacher. I thank you for pointing out that knowing subject matter and delivering it are different. I had no idea.

    My enrollment spoke for itself. I am still in touch with some former students and while a teacher I had many students seek personal advice from me. I even once had a female student (18 going on 30) seek my advice after she was raped by a friend of her stripper sister’s boyfriend and became pregnant.

    So when I say glorified babysitter I mean someone who has to keep the kids on task all the way to being a guidance counselor.

    February 4, 2011 at 2:46 PM #663447
    Djshakes
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    [quote=CA renter]
    Knowing the subject matter, and knowing how to teach are two totally different things (both equally important). If you think teachers are “glorified babysitters,” or that the job was easy, you probably weren’t a very good teacher.[/quote]

    I went to school and became a credentialed teacher. I thank you for pointing out that knowing subject matter and delivering it are different. I had no idea.

    My enrollment spoke for itself. I am still in touch with some former students and while a teacher I had many students seek personal advice from me. I even once had a female student (18 going on 30) seek my advice after she was raped by a friend of her stripper sister’s boyfriend and became pregnant.

    So when I say glorified babysitter I mean someone who has to keep the kids on task all the way to being a guidance counselor.

    February 4, 2011 at 2:46 PM #663584
    Djshakes
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    [quote=CA renter]
    Knowing the subject matter, and knowing how to teach are two totally different things (both equally important). If you think teachers are “glorified babysitters,” or that the job was easy, you probably weren’t a very good teacher.[/quote]

    I went to school and became a credentialed teacher. I thank you for pointing out that knowing subject matter and delivering it are different. I had no idea.

    My enrollment spoke for itself. I am still in touch with some former students and while a teacher I had many students seek personal advice from me. I even once had a female student (18 going on 30) seek my advice after she was raped by a friend of her stripper sister’s boyfriend and became pregnant.

    So when I say glorified babysitter I mean someone who has to keep the kids on task all the way to being a guidance counselor.

    February 4, 2011 at 2:46 PM #663922
    Djshakes
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    [quote=CA renter]
    Knowing the subject matter, and knowing how to teach are two totally different things (both equally important). If you think teachers are “glorified babysitters,” or that the job was easy, you probably weren’t a very good teacher.[/quote]

    I went to school and became a credentialed teacher. I thank you for pointing out that knowing subject matter and delivering it are different. I had no idea.

    My enrollment spoke for itself. I am still in touch with some former students and while a teacher I had many students seek personal advice from me. I even once had a female student (18 going on 30) seek my advice after she was raped by a friend of her stripper sister’s boyfriend and became pregnant.

    So when I say glorified babysitter I mean someone who has to keep the kids on task all the way to being a guidance counselor.

    February 4, 2011 at 3:09 PM #662807
    no_such_reality
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    [quote=CA renter]
    If you think teaching is so easy and overpaid, why aren’t you doing it?[/quote]
    Trotting that out again?

    Did I say overpaid? – no.
    Did I say easy? -no.

    Did I say, making $65K plus 15% bonus? – Yes.

    Did I say possibly getting $3000 for bilingual – Yes.

    It’s kind of like the firefighters, you want to argue their salary schedule and poverty in spite of their W-2s showing six figures.

    Can we have a honest discussion about how much the teacher’s really make?

    Seriously, the schools should publish actual reported W-2 earnings sans names. kind of like Chang did for the cities and counties.

    February 4, 2011 at 3:09 PM #662869
    no_such_reality
    Participant

    [quote=CA renter]
    If you think teaching is so easy and overpaid, why aren’t you doing it?[/quote]
    Trotting that out again?

    Did I say overpaid? – no.
    Did I say easy? -no.

    Did I say, making $65K plus 15% bonus? – Yes.

    Did I say possibly getting $3000 for bilingual – Yes.

    It’s kind of like the firefighters, you want to argue their salary schedule and poverty in spite of their W-2s showing six figures.

    Can we have a honest discussion about how much the teacher’s really make?

    Seriously, the schools should publish actual reported W-2 earnings sans names. kind of like Chang did for the cities and counties.

    February 4, 2011 at 3:09 PM #663472
    no_such_reality
    Participant

    [quote=CA renter]
    If you think teaching is so easy and overpaid, why aren’t you doing it?[/quote]
    Trotting that out again?

    Did I say overpaid? – no.
    Did I say easy? -no.

    Did I say, making $65K plus 15% bonus? – Yes.

    Did I say possibly getting $3000 for bilingual – Yes.

    It’s kind of like the firefighters, you want to argue their salary schedule and poverty in spite of their W-2s showing six figures.

    Can we have a honest discussion about how much the teacher’s really make?

    Seriously, the schools should publish actual reported W-2 earnings sans names. kind of like Chang did for the cities and counties.

    February 4, 2011 at 3:09 PM #663609
    no_such_reality
    Participant

    [quote=CA renter]
    If you think teaching is so easy and overpaid, why aren’t you doing it?[/quote]
    Trotting that out again?

    Did I say overpaid? – no.
    Did I say easy? -no.

    Did I say, making $65K plus 15% bonus? – Yes.

    Did I say possibly getting $3000 for bilingual – Yes.

    It’s kind of like the firefighters, you want to argue their salary schedule and poverty in spite of their W-2s showing six figures.

    Can we have a honest discussion about how much the teacher’s really make?

    Seriously, the schools should publish actual reported W-2 earnings sans names. kind of like Chang did for the cities and counties.

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