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February 1, 2011 at 11:55 AM #661916February 1, 2011 at 12:03 PM #660790
Djshakes
Participant[quote=Eugene][quote=pri_dk]
How about source that just provides the *average* instead of selectively choosing the highest numbers to make an argument?What is the (unqualified) average teacher salary in the state of CA?
I have no doubt it’s way south of $86K.[/quote]
As of last year, $67,932.
In San Diego Unified, the average salary is $64,466, for a teacher with an average of 14.3 years of experience.
Still too much. They work 3/4’s of the year. So that equates to $86K….exactly what the previous poster suggested.
$64,466/.75 = $85,954
Looks like you proved his point.
February 1, 2011 at 12:03 PM #660853Participant[quote=Eugene][quote=pri_dk]
How about source that just provides the *average* instead of selectively choosing the highest numbers to make an argument?What is the (unqualified) average teacher salary in the state of CA?
I have no doubt it’s way south of $86K.[/quote]
As of last year, $67,932.
In San Diego Unified, the average salary is $64,466, for a teacher with an average of 14.3 years of experience.
Still too much. They work 3/4’s of the year. So that equates to $86K….exactly what the previous poster suggested.
$64,466/.75 = $85,954
Looks like you proved his point.
February 1, 2011 at 12:03 PM #661457Participant[quote=Eugene][quote=pri_dk]
How about source that just provides the *average* instead of selectively choosing the highest numbers to make an argument?What is the (unqualified) average teacher salary in the state of CA?
I have no doubt it’s way south of $86K.[/quote]
As of last year, $67,932.
In San Diego Unified, the average salary is $64,466, for a teacher with an average of 14.3 years of experience.
Still too much. They work 3/4’s of the year. So that equates to $86K….exactly what the previous poster suggested.
$64,466/.75 = $85,954
Looks like you proved his point.
February 1, 2011 at 12:03 PM #661595Participant[quote=Eugene][quote=pri_dk]
How about source that just provides the *average* instead of selectively choosing the highest numbers to make an argument?What is the (unqualified) average teacher salary in the state of CA?
I have no doubt it’s way south of $86K.[/quote]
As of last year, $67,932.
In San Diego Unified, the average salary is $64,466, for a teacher with an average of 14.3 years of experience.
Still too much. They work 3/4’s of the year. So that equates to $86K….exactly what the previous poster suggested.
$64,466/.75 = $85,954
Looks like you proved his point.
February 1, 2011 at 12:03 PM #661926Participant[quote=Eugene][quote=pri_dk]
How about source that just provides the *average* instead of selectively choosing the highest numbers to make an argument?What is the (unqualified) average teacher salary in the state of CA?
I have no doubt it’s way south of $86K.[/quote]
As of last year, $67,932.
In San Diego Unified, the average salary is $64,466, for a teacher with an average of 14.3 years of experience.
Still too much. They work 3/4’s of the year. So that equates to $86K….exactly what the previous poster suggested.
$64,466/.75 = $85,954
Looks like you proved his point.
February 1, 2011 at 12:06 PM #660795
CoronitaParticipant[quote=Eugene][quote=EconProf]As zk’s link showed, CA prisoners cost the state $51,000 per year. I’ve read that Texas spends $25,000 per year, Montana $15,000. Perhaps we could outsource more prisoners to these states (we already do that a little), and benefit both CA taxpayers and let these more efficient states run a little profit.[/quote]
The cost of prisoners is an outrage. The heart of the matter is seriously overpaid prison guards, much better paid than teachers, (the average compensation on the order of $100,000) and way too many of them (something like one guard per 4 prisoners. Many other states have half that number.)
Unfortunately, if we closed all prisons and outsourced all prisoners to Montana, that would only close less than a third of the budget deficit.[/quote]
Let’s just ship them off to guantanamo
February 1, 2011 at 12:06 PM #660858CoronitaParticipant[quote=Eugene][quote=EconProf]As zk’s link showed, CA prisoners cost the state $51,000 per year. I’ve read that Texas spends $25,000 per year, Montana $15,000. Perhaps we could outsource more prisoners to these states (we already do that a little), and benefit both CA taxpayers and let these more efficient states run a little profit.[/quote]
The cost of prisoners is an outrage. The heart of the matter is seriously overpaid prison guards, much better paid than teachers, (the average compensation on the order of $100,000) and way too many of them (something like one guard per 4 prisoners. Many other states have half that number.)
Unfortunately, if we closed all prisons and outsourced all prisoners to Montana, that would only close less than a third of the budget deficit.[/quote]
Let’s just ship them off to guantanamo
February 1, 2011 at 12:06 PM #661462CoronitaParticipant[quote=Eugene][quote=EconProf]As zk’s link showed, CA prisoners cost the state $51,000 per year. I’ve read that Texas spends $25,000 per year, Montana $15,000. Perhaps we could outsource more prisoners to these states (we already do that a little), and benefit both CA taxpayers and let these more efficient states run a little profit.[/quote]
The cost of prisoners is an outrage. The heart of the matter is seriously overpaid prison guards, much better paid than teachers, (the average compensation on the order of $100,000) and way too many of them (something like one guard per 4 prisoners. Many other states have half that number.)
Unfortunately, if we closed all prisons and outsourced all prisoners to Montana, that would only close less than a third of the budget deficit.[/quote]
Let’s just ship them off to guantanamo
February 1, 2011 at 12:06 PM #661600CoronitaParticipant[quote=Eugene][quote=EconProf]As zk’s link showed, CA prisoners cost the state $51,000 per year. I’ve read that Texas spends $25,000 per year, Montana $15,000. Perhaps we could outsource more prisoners to these states (we already do that a little), and benefit both CA taxpayers and let these more efficient states run a little profit.[/quote]
The cost of prisoners is an outrage. The heart of the matter is seriously overpaid prison guards, much better paid than teachers, (the average compensation on the order of $100,000) and way too many of them (something like one guard per 4 prisoners. Many other states have half that number.)
Unfortunately, if we closed all prisons and outsourced all prisoners to Montana, that would only close less than a third of the budget deficit.[/quote]
Let’s just ship them off to guantanamo
February 1, 2011 at 12:06 PM #661931CoronitaParticipant[quote=Eugene][quote=EconProf]As zk’s link showed, CA prisoners cost the state $51,000 per year. I’ve read that Texas spends $25,000 per year, Montana $15,000. Perhaps we could outsource more prisoners to these states (we already do that a little), and benefit both CA taxpayers and let these more efficient states run a little profit.[/quote]
The cost of prisoners is an outrage. The heart of the matter is seriously overpaid prison guards, much better paid than teachers, (the average compensation on the order of $100,000) and way too many of them (something like one guard per 4 prisoners. Many other states have half that number.)
Unfortunately, if we closed all prisons and outsourced all prisoners to Montana, that would only close less than a third of the budget deficit.[/quote]
Let’s just ship them off to guantanamo
February 1, 2011 at 12:17 PM #660805Eugene
Participant[quote=Djshakes]
Still too much. They work 3/4’s of the year. So that equates to $86K….exactly what the previous poster suggested.$64,466/.75 = $85,954
Looks like you proved his point.[/quote]
I’d like some proof for the claim that they all work 3/4’s of the year. Teachers sometimes have to show up for work even if classes are out. There are different tracks, some students have to study well into July.
And in any event, it’s not like those teachers can easily find a second job during summer months that pays comparable to their first. So there’s no point dividing by .75.
February 1, 2011 at 12:17 PM #660868Participant[quote=Djshakes]
Still too much. They work 3/4’s of the year. So that equates to $86K….exactly what the previous poster suggested.$64,466/.75 = $85,954
Looks like you proved his point.[/quote]
I’d like some proof for the claim that they all work 3/4’s of the year. Teachers sometimes have to show up for work even if classes are out. There are different tracks, some students have to study well into July.
And in any event, it’s not like those teachers can easily find a second job during summer months that pays comparable to their first. So there’s no point dividing by .75.
February 1, 2011 at 12:17 PM #661472Participant[quote=Djshakes]
Still too much. They work 3/4’s of the year. So that equates to $86K….exactly what the previous poster suggested.$64,466/.75 = $85,954
Looks like you proved his point.[/quote]
I’d like some proof for the claim that they all work 3/4’s of the year. Teachers sometimes have to show up for work even if classes are out. There are different tracks, some students have to study well into July.
And in any event, it’s not like those teachers can easily find a second job during summer months that pays comparable to their first. So there’s no point dividing by .75.
February 1, 2011 at 12:17 PM #661610Participant[quote=Djshakes]
Still too much. They work 3/4’s of the year. So that equates to $86K….exactly what the previous poster suggested.$64,466/.75 = $85,954
Looks like you proved his point.[/quote]
I’d like some proof for the claim that they all work 3/4’s of the year. Teachers sometimes have to show up for work even if classes are out. There are different tracks, some students have to study well into July.
And in any event, it’s not like those teachers can easily find a second job during summer months that pays comparable to their first. So there’s no point dividing by .75.
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