spin off – when is it a remodel, when is it a custom home

[UCGal]

In general I agree that if you’re doing an addition, or adding a 2nd story to a tract home – it’s a remodel…even if you’re redesigning the interior space…

But there’s a house near mine that is pushing that limit… they took the entire house down to the studs – no stucco left, no interior walls left – just enough framing to keep the roof on. Literally the only interior features left, that I can tell was a waste stack for the 2nd floor bathrooms and the stairs to the 2nd floor. All of the other plumbing was removed.

They’ve poured new foundations in front and back and are doubling the footprint. This week they started adding some interior framing back in – plus framing for the additions. I can tell already that this is NOT the same house it started as.

I doubt they’ll ever see the money back – but they are getting their dream house.

[briansd1]

Sounds like a custom home to me. The new construction should improve property values around you.

I think that there’s no difference really between a tract house house and a custom house. The line is blurred in that a custom house is a one-off house whereas a tract house is replicated many times over.

Of course, custom houses often have better design and fit-and-finish but that is not a mandatory requirement of a custom house.

[briansd1]

Sounds like a custom home to me. The new construction should improve property values around you.

I think that there’s no difference really between a tract house house and a custom house. The line is blurred in that a custom house is a one-off house whereas a tract house is replicated many times over.

Of course, custom houses often have better design and fit-and-finish but that is not a mandatory requirement of a custom house.

[briansd1]

Sounds like a custom home to me. The new construction should improve property values around you.

I think that there’s no difference really between a tract house house and a custom house. The line is blurred in that a custom house is a one-off house whereas a tract house is replicated many times over.

Of course, custom houses often have better design and fit-and-finish but that is not a mandatory requirement of a custom house.

[briansd1]

Sounds like a custom home to me. The new construction should improve property values around you.

I think that there’s no difference really between a tract house house and a custom house. The line is blurred in that a custom house is a one-off house whereas a tract house is replicated many times over.

Of course, custom houses often have better design and fit-and-finish but that is not a mandatory requirement of a custom house.

[briansd1]

Sounds like a custom home to me. The new construction should improve property values around you.

I think that there’s no difference really between a tract house house and a custom house. The line is blurred in that a custom house is a one-off house whereas a tract house is replicated many times over.

Of course, custom houses often have better design and fit-and-finish but that is not a mandatory requirement of a custom house.

[an]

I agree with Brian that the line between a tract house and a custom house is blurred. To me, a custom house is built w/ good quality, fit and finish from day one while a tract house is build w/ minimum quality to get the highest profit for the builder. At the end of the day, a house is just a bunch of sticks, drywall, roof and interior pieces. If someone customize (remodel) a house, then to me, it’s custom. Especially if those remodel bring the quality/fit and finish of a tract house ABOVE a custom home or if the layout of the new house is different than any other house in the development.

To bring in BG’s point from the other thread about what the city consider a remodel vs a rebuild, is there an designation about a house in the eyes of the city whether it’s a custom home or a tract home? If the house got burnt down and rebuilt with the exact same layout as the original house, would that be a custom home? If someone buy a tear down tract home, buy a plan that was used in a different tract and build it on their own lot, is that a custom home? K-Hovnanian have a program of build on your own lot. If a big builder build a house on your lot using one of the many floor plan they have in the portfolio, would that be a custom home?

[an]

I agree with Brian that the line between a tract house and a custom house is blurred. To me, a custom house is built w/ good quality, fit and finish from day one while a tract house is build w/ minimum quality to get the highest profit for the builder. At the end of the day, a house is just a bunch of sticks, drywall, roof and interior pieces. If someone customize (remodel) a house, then to me, it’s custom. Especially if those remodel bring the quality/fit and finish of a tract house ABOVE a custom home or if the layout of the new house is different than any other house in the development.

To bring in BG’s point from the other thread about what the city consider a remodel vs a rebuild, is there an designation about a house in the eyes of the city whether it’s a custom home or a tract home? If the house got burnt down and rebuilt with the exact same layout as the original house, would that be a custom home? If someone buy a tear down tract home, buy a plan that was used in a different tract and build it on their own lot, is that a custom home? K-Hovnanian have a program of build on your own lot. If a big builder build a house on your lot using one of the many floor plan they have in the portfolio, would that be a custom home?

[an]

I agree with Brian that the line between a tract house and a custom house is blurred. To me, a custom house is built w/ good quality, fit and finish from day one while a tract house is build w/ minimum quality to get the highest profit for the builder. At the end of the day, a house is just a bunch of sticks, drywall, roof and interior pieces. If someone customize (remodel) a house, then to me, it’s custom. Especially if those remodel bring the quality/fit and finish of a tract house ABOVE a custom home or if the layout of the new house is different than any other house in the development.

To bring in BG’s point from the other thread about what the city consider a remodel vs a rebuild, is there an designation about a house in the eyes of the city whether it’s a custom home or a tract home? If the house got burnt down and rebuilt with the exact same layout as the original house, would that be a custom home? If someone buy a tear down tract home, buy a plan that was used in a different tract and build it on their own lot, is that a custom home? K-Hovnanian have a program of build on your own lot. If a big builder build a house on your lot using one of the many floor plan they have in the portfolio, would that be a custom home?

[an]

I agree with Brian that the line between a tract house and a custom house is blurred. To me, a custom house is built w/ good quality, fit and finish from day one while a tract house is build w/ minimum quality to get the highest profit for the builder. At the end of the day, a house is just a bunch of sticks, drywall, roof and interior pieces. If someone customize (remodel) a house, then to me, it’s custom. Especially if those remodel bring the quality/fit and finish of a tract house ABOVE a custom home or if the layout of the new house is different than any other house in the development.

To bring in BG’s point from the other thread about what the city consider a remodel vs a rebuild, is there an designation about a house in the eyes of the city whether it’s a custom home or a tract home? If the house got burnt down and rebuilt with the exact same layout as the original house, would that be a custom home? If someone buy a tear down tract home, buy a plan that was used in a different tract and build it on their own lot, is that a custom home? K-Hovnanian have a program of build on your own lot. If a big builder build a house on your lot using one of the many floor plan they have in the portfolio, would that be a custom home?

[an]

I agree with Brian that the line between a tract house and a custom house is blurred. To me, a custom house is built w/ good quality, fit and finish from day one while a tract house is build w/ minimum quality to get the highest profit for the builder. At the end of the day, a house is just a bunch of sticks, drywall, roof and interior pieces. If someone customize (remodel) a house, then to me, it’s custom. Especially if those remodel bring the quality/fit and finish of a tract house ABOVE a custom home or if the layout of the new house is different than any other house in the development.

To bring in BG’s point from the other thread about what the city consider a remodel vs a rebuild, is there an designation about a house in the eyes of the city whether it’s a custom home or a tract home? If the house got burnt down and rebuilt with the exact same layout as the original house, would that be a custom home? If someone buy a tear down tract home, buy a plan that was used in a different tract and build it on their own lot, is that a custom home? K-Hovnanian have a program of build on your own lot. If a big builder build a house on your lot using one of the many floor plan they have in the portfolio, would that be a custom home?

[bearishgurl]

[quote=AN]. . . To bring in BG’s point from the other thread about what the city consider a remodel vs a rebuild, is there an designation about a house in the eyes of the city whether it’s a custom home or a tract home? If the house got burnt down and rebuilt with the exact same layout as the original house, would that be a custom home?[/quote]

Yes, AN, it is a “custom” home, even if they are using the original builder prints. If it was completely destroyed by fire, the owners may have only had part of a chimney left. The utility meters are gone and/or unusable. The slab may be charred, cracked and/or unusable. There is nothing left to “remodel.” Thus, what was built there would be a “custom” home and any new “white paper fee” would prevail and cost an extra $25K to $30K (depending on jurisdiction) for intermittent city/county supervision and final sign-off.

[quote=AN]If someone buy a tear down tract home, buy a plan that was used in a different tract and build it on their own lot, is that a custom home? K-Hovnanian have a program of build on your own lot. If a big builder build a house on your lot using one of the many floor plan they have in the portfolio, would that be a custom home?[/quote]

This would be a “custom” home ONLY if the lot was razed and no part of the old home was used, including foundation. Meters must be detached from the studs and possibly piping. It is possible you would then have to also pay for new water and gas meter resets and trench inspection.

If ANY portion of a wall is left standing on the old home and any portion of the foundation to support it to build the *new* home, then it will be a “complete remodel.”

AN, the type of home you build has nothing to do with whether the home is a complete remodel or new “custom-build.” It is what is left behind of the old structure that determines whether your project will be a “remodel” or “new construction – custom.”

Many of these types of homes you see in SD County today are a “complete remodel” of a home that was 50-85 years old. Most are done this way to save fees. The ones with an asterisk* could also be considered “custom,” (if built on a vacant lot with or without utilities orig present).

-architect-designed home specifically for lot/views*

-second story changing roofline

-increase of footprint w/homeowner drawings enhanced by (usually human) CAD illustrator

-increase of footprint drawn by professional (architect/CAD)

-built from professionally “tweaked” commercial blueprints, orig costing $800 – $2000*

-one of local spec builder’s “top-selling plans*

-fire restoration – complete* or partial rebuild – back to original blueprint

-fire restoration – complete* or partial rebuild made larger than orig blueprint by draftsman/CAD designer

-fire replacement – new construction w/new meters*

**************************************************

UCGal’s neighbor’s project would be considered a “complete remodel” if the meters were left attached to the studs.

Earth to Rustico . . . get over here and give the Piggs your “expert” input ;=]

[bearishgurl]

[quote=AN]. . . To bring in BG’s point from the other thread about what the city consider a remodel vs a rebuild, is there an designation about a house in the eyes of the city whether it’s a custom home or a tract home? If the house got burnt down and rebuilt with the exact same layout as the original house, would that be a custom home?[/quote]

Yes, AN, it is a “custom” home, even if they are using the original builder prints. If it was completely destroyed by fire, the owners may have only had part of a chimney left. The utility meters are gone and/or unusable. The slab may be charred, cracked and/or unusable. There is nothing left to “remodel.” Thus, what was built there would be a “custom” home and any new “white paper fee” would prevail and cost an extra $25K to $30K (depending on jurisdiction) for intermittent city/county supervision and final sign-off.

[quote=AN]If someone buy a tear down tract home, buy a plan that was used in a different tract and build it on their own lot, is that a custom home? K-Hovnanian have a program of build on your own lot. If a big builder build a house on your lot using one of the many floor plan they have in the portfolio, would that be a custom home?[/quote]

This would be a “custom” home ONLY if the lot was razed and no part of the old home was used, including foundation. Meters must be detached from the studs and possibly piping. It is possible you would then have to also pay for new water and gas meter resets and trench inspection.

If ANY portion of a wall is left standing on the old home and any portion of the foundation to support it to build the *new* home, then it will be a “complete remodel.”

AN, the type of home you build has nothing to do with whether the home is a complete remodel or new “custom-build.” It is what is left behind of the old structure that determines whether your project will be a “remodel” or “new construction – custom.”

Many of these types of homes you see in SD County today are a “complete remodel” of a home that was 50-85 years old. Most are done this way to save fees. The ones with an asterisk* could also be considered “custom,” (if built on a vacant lot with or without utilities orig present).

-architect-designed home specifically for lot/views*

-second story changing roofline

-increase of footprint w/homeowner drawings enhanced by (usually human) CAD illustrator

-increase of footprint drawn by professional (architect/CAD)

-built from professionally “tweaked” commercial blueprints, orig costing $800 – $2000*

-one of local spec builder’s “top-selling plans*

-fire restoration – complete* or partial rebuild – back to original blueprint

-fire restoration – complete* or partial rebuild made larger than orig blueprint by draftsman/CAD designer

-fire replacement – new construction w/new meters*

**************************************************

UCGal’s neighbor’s project would be considered a “complete remodel” if the meters were left attached to the studs.

Earth to Rustico . . . get over here and give the Piggs your “expert” input ;=]

[bearishgurl]

[quote=AN]. . . To bring in BG’s point from the other thread about what the city consider a remodel vs a rebuild, is there an designation about a house in the eyes of the city whether it’s a custom home or a tract home? If the house got burnt down and rebuilt with the exact same layout as the original house, would that be a custom home?[/quote]

Yes, AN, it is a “custom” home, even if they are using the original builder prints. If it was completely destroyed by fire, the owners may have only had part of a chimney left. The utility meters are gone and/or unusable. The slab may be charred, cracked and/or unusable. There is nothing left to “remodel.” Thus, what was built there would be a “custom” home and any new “white paper fee” would prevail and cost an extra $25K to $30K (depending on jurisdiction) for intermittent city/county supervision and final sign-off.

[quote=AN]If someone buy a tear down tract home, buy a plan that was used in a different tract and build it on their own lot, is that a custom home? K-Hovnanian have a program of build on your own lot. If a big builder build a house on your lot using one of the many floor plan they have in the portfolio, would that be a custom home?[/quote]

This would be a “custom” home ONLY if the lot was razed and no part of the old home was used, including foundation. Meters must be detached from the studs and possibly piping. It is possible you would then have to also pay for new water and gas meter resets and trench inspection.

If ANY portion of a wall is left standing on the old home and any portion of the foundation to support it to build the *new* home, then it will be a “complete remodel.”

AN, the type of home you build has nothing to do with whether the home is a complete remodel or new “custom-build.” It is what is left behind of the old structure that determines whether your project will be a “remodel” or “new construction – custom.”

Many of these types of homes you see in SD County today are a “complete remodel” of a home that was 50-85 years old. Most are done this way to save fees. The ones with an asterisk* could also be considered “custom,” (if built on a vacant lot with or without utilities orig present).

-architect-designed home specifically for lot/views*

-second story changing roofline

-increase of footprint w/homeowner drawings enhanced by (usually human) CAD illustrator

-increase of footprint drawn by professional (architect/CAD)

-built from professionally “tweaked” commercial blueprints, orig costing $800 – $2000*

-one of local spec builder’s “top-selling plans*

-fire restoration – complete* or partial rebuild – back to original blueprint

-fire restoration – complete* or partial rebuild made larger than orig blueprint by draftsman/CAD designer

-fire replacement – new construction w/new meters*

**************************************************

UCGal’s neighbor’s project would be considered a “complete remodel” if the meters were left attached to the studs.

Earth to Rustico . . . get over here and give the Piggs your “expert” input ;=]

[bearishgurl]

[quote=AN]. . . To bring in BG’s point from the other thread about what the city consider a remodel vs a rebuild, is there an designation about a house in the eyes of the city whether it’s a custom home or a tract home? If the house got burnt down and rebuilt with the exact same layout as the original house, would that be a custom home?[/quote]

Yes, AN, it is a “custom” home, even if they are using the original builder prints. If it was completely destroyed by fire, the owners may have only had part of a chimney left. The utility meters are gone and/or unusable. The slab may be charred, cracked and/or unusable. There is nothing left to “remodel.” Thus, what was built there would be a “custom” home and any new “white paper fee” would prevail and cost an extra $25K to $30K (depending on jurisdiction) for intermittent city/county supervision and final sign-off.

[quote=AN]If someone buy a tear down tract home, buy a plan that was used in a different tract and build it on their own lot, is that a custom home? K-Hovnanian have a program of build on your own lot. If a big builder build a house on your lot using one of the many floor plan they have in the portfolio, would that be a custom home?[/quote]

This would be a “custom” home ONLY if the lot was razed and no part of the old home was used, including foundation. Meters must be detached from the studs and possibly piping. It is possible you would then have to also pay for new water and gas meter resets and trench inspection.

If ANY portion of a wall is left standing on the old home and any portion of the foundation to support it to build the *new* home, then it will be a “complete remodel.”

AN, the type of home you build has nothing to do with whether the home is a complete remodel or new “custom-build.” It is what is left behind of the old structure that determines whether your project will be a “remodel” or “new construction – custom.”

Many of these types of homes you see in SD County today are a “complete remodel” of a home that was 50-85 years old. Most are done this way to save fees. The ones with an asterisk* could also be considered “custom,” (if built on a vacant lot with or without utilities orig present).

-architect-designed home specifically for lot/views*

-second story changing roofline

-increase of footprint w/homeowner drawings enhanced by (usually human) CAD illustrator

-increase of footprint drawn by professional (architect/CAD)

-built from professionally “tweaked” commercial blueprints, orig costing $800 – $2000*

-one of local spec builder’s “top-selling plans*

-fire restoration – complete* or partial rebuild – back to original blueprint

-fire restoration – complete* or partial rebuild made larger than orig blueprint by draftsman/CAD designer

-fire replacement – new construction w/new meters*

**************************************************

UCGal’s neighbor’s project would be considered a “complete remodel” if the meters were left attached to the studs.

Earth to Rustico . . . get over here and give the Piggs your “expert” input ;=]

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