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June 15, 2010 at 10:12 AM #566192June 15, 2010 at 10:50 AM #565228AecetiaParticipant
I could not find the latest info. re HOA’s, here is one from 2007: “The limitations that association may impose on solar systems were found to be reasonable by the legislature when Civil Code Sections 714 and 714.1 were approved. The law won’t allow an Association to prevent any solar installations, but does allow associations certain controls.” This section was primarily referring to condos or townhouses where the association controls the exterior. In SFR’s, like ours they did not even have us submit anything for approval. A prior owner had installed solar and the association found out they had no say in the matter.
June 15, 2010 at 10:50 AM #565322AecetiaParticipantI could not find the latest info. re HOA’s, here is one from 2007: “The limitations that association may impose on solar systems were found to be reasonable by the legislature when Civil Code Sections 714 and 714.1 were approved. The law won’t allow an Association to prevent any solar installations, but does allow associations certain controls.” This section was primarily referring to condos or townhouses where the association controls the exterior. In SFR’s, like ours they did not even have us submit anything for approval. A prior owner had installed solar and the association found out they had no say in the matter.
June 15, 2010 at 10:50 AM #565828AecetiaParticipantI could not find the latest info. re HOA’s, here is one from 2007: “The limitations that association may impose on solar systems were found to be reasonable by the legislature when Civil Code Sections 714 and 714.1 were approved. The law won’t allow an Association to prevent any solar installations, but does allow associations certain controls.” This section was primarily referring to condos or townhouses where the association controls the exterior. In SFR’s, like ours they did not even have us submit anything for approval. A prior owner had installed solar and the association found out they had no say in the matter.
June 15, 2010 at 10:50 AM #565935AecetiaParticipantI could not find the latest info. re HOA’s, here is one from 2007: “The limitations that association may impose on solar systems were found to be reasonable by the legislature when Civil Code Sections 714 and 714.1 were approved. The law won’t allow an Association to prevent any solar installations, but does allow associations certain controls.” This section was primarily referring to condos or townhouses where the association controls the exterior. In SFR’s, like ours they did not even have us submit anything for approval. A prior owner had installed solar and the association found out they had no say in the matter.
June 15, 2010 at 10:50 AM #566222AecetiaParticipantI could not find the latest info. re HOA’s, here is one from 2007: “The limitations that association may impose on solar systems were found to be reasonable by the legislature when Civil Code Sections 714 and 714.1 were approved. The law won’t allow an Association to prevent any solar installations, but does allow associations certain controls.” This section was primarily referring to condos or townhouses where the association controls the exterior. In SFR’s, like ours they did not even have us submit anything for approval. A prior owner had installed solar and the association found out they had no say in the matter.
June 15, 2010 at 11:03 AM #565242ZeitgeistParticipant“Electricity will not be rationed because of lack of oil. The previous Dear Leader, before he departed, already caused oil to skyrocket in price so oil is hardly even used in electricity generation.”
Au contraire, Dear Brian, because the current dear leader wants cap and trade, the government will not need to ration electricity- we will self-ration due to the high prices. Companies are being put out of business in the United States for many reasons: high taxes, health care and soaring energy prices being some of them. Losing businesses will do nothing to help the economy in the long term, but on the bright side, there should be less traffic grid lock.
June 15, 2010 at 11:03 AM #565337ZeitgeistParticipant“Electricity will not be rationed because of lack of oil. The previous Dear Leader, before he departed, already caused oil to skyrocket in price so oil is hardly even used in electricity generation.”
Au contraire, Dear Brian, because the current dear leader wants cap and trade, the government will not need to ration electricity- we will self-ration due to the high prices. Companies are being put out of business in the United States for many reasons: high taxes, health care and soaring energy prices being some of them. Losing businesses will do nothing to help the economy in the long term, but on the bright side, there should be less traffic grid lock.
June 15, 2010 at 11:03 AM #565844ZeitgeistParticipant“Electricity will not be rationed because of lack of oil. The previous Dear Leader, before he departed, already caused oil to skyrocket in price so oil is hardly even used in electricity generation.”
Au contraire, Dear Brian, because the current dear leader wants cap and trade, the government will not need to ration electricity- we will self-ration due to the high prices. Companies are being put out of business in the United States for many reasons: high taxes, health care and soaring energy prices being some of them. Losing businesses will do nothing to help the economy in the long term, but on the bright side, there should be less traffic grid lock.
June 15, 2010 at 11:03 AM #565950ZeitgeistParticipant“Electricity will not be rationed because of lack of oil. The previous Dear Leader, before he departed, already caused oil to skyrocket in price so oil is hardly even used in electricity generation.”
Au contraire, Dear Brian, because the current dear leader wants cap and trade, the government will not need to ration electricity- we will self-ration due to the high prices. Companies are being put out of business in the United States for many reasons: high taxes, health care and soaring energy prices being some of them. Losing businesses will do nothing to help the economy in the long term, but on the bright side, there should be less traffic grid lock.
June 15, 2010 at 11:03 AM #566237ZeitgeistParticipant“Electricity will not be rationed because of lack of oil. The previous Dear Leader, before he departed, already caused oil to skyrocket in price so oil is hardly even used in electricity generation.”
Au contraire, Dear Brian, because the current dear leader wants cap and trade, the government will not need to ration electricity- we will self-ration due to the high prices. Companies are being put out of business in the United States for many reasons: high taxes, health care and soaring energy prices being some of them. Losing businesses will do nothing to help the economy in the long term, but on the bright side, there should be less traffic grid lock.
June 15, 2010 at 11:32 AM #565272faterikcartmanParticipant[quote=briansd1][quote=faterikcartman]
With these new “smart meters” we expect electrical usage to be eventually limited or rationed in some way. Especially when our Dear Leader declares oil drilling evil (thanks BP) and causes another energy crises. I want to be able to use electricity like our Dear Leader plays golf.
[/quote]Electricity will not be rationed because of lack of oil.
The previous Dear Leader, before he departed, already caused oil to skyrocket in price so oil is hardly even used in electricity generation.
In 2008, “Largely due to a sharp rise in oil prices, petroleum-fired generation fell 29.7 percent, to 46 million MWh. Its share of total net generation dropped to 1.1 percent.”
http://www.eia.doe.gov/cneaf/electricity/epa/epa_sum.html%5B/quote%5D
Brian, I don’t think you understand what is coming. Cap and Trade is coming. This will limit ALL production of C02 from ANY source — and believe me when I tell you C02 is produced in the production of electricity. Whether it is generated from natural gas or coal it is going to be regulated. This is going to result in an energy crises and your electricity use is going to be limited or rates for large usage profiles will be made punitive. The Gulf leak is going to be used as another crises that shouldn’t be let to go to waste in order to help get it passed.
You made an assumption about the connection of oil to electricity production that I never made. I suggest you educate yourself on Cap and Trade legislation. Moreover, look into Dear Leader’s campaign promises to cripple the coal industry. As for Bush bashing, have at it — Democrats like Bush and hippies piss me off.
EDIT: Just saw Zeitgeist’s post…
June 15, 2010 at 11:32 AM #565367faterikcartmanParticipant[quote=briansd1][quote=faterikcartman]
With these new “smart meters” we expect electrical usage to be eventually limited or rationed in some way. Especially when our Dear Leader declares oil drilling evil (thanks BP) and causes another energy crises. I want to be able to use electricity like our Dear Leader plays golf.
[/quote]Electricity will not be rationed because of lack of oil.
The previous Dear Leader, before he departed, already caused oil to skyrocket in price so oil is hardly even used in electricity generation.
In 2008, “Largely due to a sharp rise in oil prices, petroleum-fired generation fell 29.7 percent, to 46 million MWh. Its share of total net generation dropped to 1.1 percent.”
http://www.eia.doe.gov/cneaf/electricity/epa/epa_sum.html%5B/quote%5D
Brian, I don’t think you understand what is coming. Cap and Trade is coming. This will limit ALL production of C02 from ANY source — and believe me when I tell you C02 is produced in the production of electricity. Whether it is generated from natural gas or coal it is going to be regulated. This is going to result in an energy crises and your electricity use is going to be limited or rates for large usage profiles will be made punitive. The Gulf leak is going to be used as another crises that shouldn’t be let to go to waste in order to help get it passed.
You made an assumption about the connection of oil to electricity production that I never made. I suggest you educate yourself on Cap and Trade legislation. Moreover, look into Dear Leader’s campaign promises to cripple the coal industry. As for Bush bashing, have at it — Democrats like Bush and hippies piss me off.
EDIT: Just saw Zeitgeist’s post…
June 15, 2010 at 11:32 AM #565873faterikcartmanParticipant[quote=briansd1][quote=faterikcartman]
With these new “smart meters” we expect electrical usage to be eventually limited or rationed in some way. Especially when our Dear Leader declares oil drilling evil (thanks BP) and causes another energy crises. I want to be able to use electricity like our Dear Leader plays golf.
[/quote]Electricity will not be rationed because of lack of oil.
The previous Dear Leader, before he departed, already caused oil to skyrocket in price so oil is hardly even used in electricity generation.
In 2008, “Largely due to a sharp rise in oil prices, petroleum-fired generation fell 29.7 percent, to 46 million MWh. Its share of total net generation dropped to 1.1 percent.”
http://www.eia.doe.gov/cneaf/electricity/epa/epa_sum.html%5B/quote%5D
Brian, I don’t think you understand what is coming. Cap and Trade is coming. This will limit ALL production of C02 from ANY source — and believe me when I tell you C02 is produced in the production of electricity. Whether it is generated from natural gas or coal it is going to be regulated. This is going to result in an energy crises and your electricity use is going to be limited or rates for large usage profiles will be made punitive. The Gulf leak is going to be used as another crises that shouldn’t be let to go to waste in order to help get it passed.
You made an assumption about the connection of oil to electricity production that I never made. I suggest you educate yourself on Cap and Trade legislation. Moreover, look into Dear Leader’s campaign promises to cripple the coal industry. As for Bush bashing, have at it — Democrats like Bush and hippies piss me off.
EDIT: Just saw Zeitgeist’s post…
June 15, 2010 at 11:32 AM #565980faterikcartmanParticipant[quote=briansd1][quote=faterikcartman]
With these new “smart meters” we expect electrical usage to be eventually limited or rationed in some way. Especially when our Dear Leader declares oil drilling evil (thanks BP) and causes another energy crises. I want to be able to use electricity like our Dear Leader plays golf.
[/quote]Electricity will not be rationed because of lack of oil.
The previous Dear Leader, before he departed, already caused oil to skyrocket in price so oil is hardly even used in electricity generation.
In 2008, “Largely due to a sharp rise in oil prices, petroleum-fired generation fell 29.7 percent, to 46 million MWh. Its share of total net generation dropped to 1.1 percent.”
http://www.eia.doe.gov/cneaf/electricity/epa/epa_sum.html%5B/quote%5D
Brian, I don’t think you understand what is coming. Cap and Trade is coming. This will limit ALL production of C02 from ANY source — and believe me when I tell you C02 is produced in the production of electricity. Whether it is generated from natural gas or coal it is going to be regulated. This is going to result in an energy crises and your electricity use is going to be limited or rates for large usage profiles will be made punitive. The Gulf leak is going to be used as another crises that shouldn’t be let to go to waste in order to help get it passed.
You made an assumption about the connection of oil to electricity production that I never made. I suggest you educate yourself on Cap and Trade legislation. Moreover, look into Dear Leader’s campaign promises to cripple the coal industry. As for Bush bashing, have at it — Democrats like Bush and hippies piss me off.
EDIT: Just saw Zeitgeist’s post…
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