So I’m curious. How do you usually vote? Financially or Socially?

[drunkle]

“I wish it mattered. There is nobody running that I could endorse. Democracy in the US is an illusion.”

ron paul. his social ideas are flawed, but at least he appears to be a constitutionalist.

in answer to the question… yes.

see, this question, money or social help is redundant. it takes money to pay for the programs, if you’re not down for the programs, you’re not down to spend money on them.

you will always be guided by your values in making such decisions. you can’t simply say “i’m republican because i dont want taxes”. you have to help pay for those functions that the government is suppposed to perform. it’s the decisions on which functions are necessary that guides the money. not the other way around, nobody is interested in simply throwing money aimless around… or hording it at their own expense.

the primary difference in ideologies is that conservative wants the past or status quo. the liberal is forward looking and trying to prepare. it’s framed perfectly by the global warming debate, conservatives are wait and see, liberals are study and prevent.

george bush’s adventurism, his pre-emptive attack on iraq is exactly a liberal position, one that makes him a neo-con, a conservative fraud.

the difference between tax and spend or borrow and spend is moot. taxation is borrowing, borrowing is taxation. at least, for governments. framing the difference between cons and libs in this light misses the fact that they’re still doing the same thing: spending your money on their toys.

etc etc etc.

[NotCranky]

“ron paul. his social ideas are flawed, but at least he appears to be a constitutionalist.”

Dyed in the wool Republican on social issues but that doesn’t really seem to matter much in an age of social gridlock.
Throw that negative out.

He will get killed in the prelims for being too “weak to defend” our way of life, read wealth, for his views on Iran ect.

If he makes it, I might vote for him on foriegn and monetary policy issues and forsake the traditional kiss I get from my wife for voting her way.

[NotCranky]

“ron paul. his social ideas are flawed, but at least he appears to be a constitutionalist.”

Dyed in the wool Republican on social issues but that doesn’t really seem to matter much in an age of social gridlock.
Throw that negative out.

He will get killed in the prelims for being too “weak to defend” our way of life, read wealth, for his views on Iran ect.

If he makes it, I might vote for him on foriegn and monetary policy issues and forsake the traditional kiss I get from my wife for voting her way.

[drunkle]

i’d vote for him just on the basis that he’s not trying to appeal to the moran next door, a la, george dumbofyou bush. he’s an intellectual republican, go figure… definately in the wrong party.

[drunkle]

i’d vote for him just on the basis that he’s not trying to appeal to the moran next door, a la, george dumbofyou bush. he’s an intellectual republican, go figure… definately in the wrong party.

[one_muggle]

I sey, yu ken raze mi taxxes if yu uze it two pay fer moore spelling lesonz. ;^)

-one muggle

[one_muggle]

I sey, yu ken raze mi taxxes if yu uze it two pay fer moore spelling lesonz. ;^)

-one muggle

[(former)FormerSanDiegan]

SD Transplant –

If your list was a political party platform, sign me up.

[(former)FormerSanDiegan]

SD Transplant –

If your list was a political party platform, sign me up.

[NotCranky]

I hear you drunkle. Morons and bible thumpers and a few intelligent people who admit they made a mistake got that guy in there.

[NotCranky]

I hear you drunkle. Morons and bible thumpers and a few intelligent people who admit they made a mistake got that guy in there.

[SD Transplant]

FSD,

I know the brainpower on this board could come up with better alternatives that our current government has to offer. Maybe…just maybe that’s the beggining of an INDEPENDENT POLITICAL-ECON AGENDA BLOG… It’s a sad state of affair in our country if folks like us are fed up with lack of honesty/transparency in our current Government, and the only way to allow our freedom of expression is just a blog (it’s still a positive…but soon this blog power could be capitalized to gain more productive momentum).

[SD Transplant]

FSD,

I know the brainpower on this board could come up with better alternatives that our current government has to offer. Maybe…just maybe that’s the beggining of an INDEPENDENT POLITICAL-ECON AGENDA BLOG… It’s a sad state of affair in our country if folks like us are fed up with lack of honesty/transparency in our current Government, and the only way to allow our freedom of expression is just a blog (it’s still a positive…but soon this blog power could be capitalized to gain more productive momentum).

[one_muggle]

I have not spent enough time reading their stuff, but the site Unity08 is trying to front a viable 3rd party via the web.
The requirements, as I understand them, are that the ticket (Pres. and VP) must either be non-politicians or a split ticket (Dem Pres., Rep VP OR vice-versa, and I assume (I) is ok).
It is a great idea, though I don’t know how well it will work.

I say Mitt Romney and Clinton. When they touch it would be like matter and anti-matter. The energy created in their annihilation could power the world for decades!!!

E = MC^2 , where M=Mitt, C=Clinton.

-one muggle

[one_muggle]

I have not spent enough time reading their stuff, but the site Unity08 is trying to front a viable 3rd party via the web.
The requirements, as I understand them, are that the ticket (Pres. and VP) must either be non-politicians or a split ticket (Dem Pres., Rep VP OR vice-versa, and I assume (I) is ok).
It is a great idea, though I don’t know how well it will work.

I say Mitt Romney and Clinton. When they touch it would be like matter and anti-matter. The energy created in their annihilation could power the world for decades!!!

E = MC^2 , where M=Mitt, C=Clinton.

-one muggle

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