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June 19, 2010 at 9:55 AM #17596
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June 19, 2010 at 5:33 PM #567407
kcal09
ParticipantUnfortunately, there is no instant review and the refs decision is final. The good news is that the US team will face Algeria which is probably the weakest team in the group.
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June 19, 2010 at 10:39 PM #567522
Diego Mamani
ParticipantYes, we were robbed! What’s worse, the ref wouldn’t bother to tell the players why he disallowed the goal. Technically, he’s not required to say why, but he could have done it nonetheless.
I’m not so sure Algeria is weak. The English couldn’t beat them! Team USA can certainly beat Argelia, but it won’t be easy.
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June 19, 2010 at 10:45 PM #567532
sunny88
ParticipantEngland couldn’t beat Algeria because they were running on the filed like 10 beheaded chicken.
Good thing UK’s goalkeeper fumbled the ball otherwise the US would have lost their first game. I think the US team can beat Algeria as long as they continue to play like against Slovenia. -
June 19, 2010 at 10:56 PM #567547
paramount
ParticipantMany of those World Cup Ref’s come from poor countries…
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June 19, 2010 at 10:56 PM #567644
paramount
ParticipantMany of those World Cup Ref’s come from poor countries…
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June 19, 2010 at 10:56 PM #568142
paramount
ParticipantMany of those World Cup Ref’s come from poor countries…
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June 19, 2010 at 10:56 PM #568250
paramount
ParticipantMany of those World Cup Ref’s come from poor countries…
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June 19, 2010 at 10:56 PM #568529
paramount
ParticipantMany of those World Cup Ref’s come from poor countries…
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June 19, 2010 at 10:45 PM #567629
sunny88
ParticipantEngland couldn’t beat Algeria because they were running on the filed like 10 beheaded chicken.
Good thing UK’s goalkeeper fumbled the ball otherwise the US would have lost their first game. I think the US team can beat Algeria as long as they continue to play like against Slovenia. -
June 19, 2010 at 10:45 PM #568127
sunny88
ParticipantEngland couldn’t beat Algeria because they were running on the filed like 10 beheaded chicken.
Good thing UK’s goalkeeper fumbled the ball otherwise the US would have lost their first game. I think the US team can beat Algeria as long as they continue to play like against Slovenia. -
June 19, 2010 at 10:45 PM #568235
sunny88
ParticipantEngland couldn’t beat Algeria because they were running on the filed like 10 beheaded chicken.
Good thing UK’s goalkeeper fumbled the ball otherwise the US would have lost their first game. I think the US team can beat Algeria as long as they continue to play like against Slovenia. -
June 19, 2010 at 10:45 PM #568514
sunny88
ParticipantEngland couldn’t beat Algeria because they were running on the filed like 10 beheaded chicken.
Good thing UK’s goalkeeper fumbled the ball otherwise the US would have lost their first game. I think the US team can beat Algeria as long as they continue to play like against Slovenia.
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June 19, 2010 at 10:39 PM #567619
Diego Mamani
ParticipantYes, we were robbed! What’s worse, the ref wouldn’t bother to tell the players why he disallowed the goal. Technically, he’s not required to say why, but he could have done it nonetheless.
I’m not so sure Algeria is weak. The English couldn’t beat them! Team USA can certainly beat Argelia, but it won’t be easy.
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June 19, 2010 at 10:39 PM #568117
Diego Mamani
ParticipantYes, we were robbed! What’s worse, the ref wouldn’t bother to tell the players why he disallowed the goal. Technically, he’s not required to say why, but he could have done it nonetheless.
I’m not so sure Algeria is weak. The English couldn’t beat them! Team USA can certainly beat Argelia, but it won’t be easy.
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June 19, 2010 at 10:39 PM #568225
Diego Mamani
ParticipantYes, we were robbed! What’s worse, the ref wouldn’t bother to tell the players why he disallowed the goal. Technically, he’s not required to say why, but he could have done it nonetheless.
I’m not so sure Algeria is weak. The English couldn’t beat them! Team USA can certainly beat Argelia, but it won’t be easy.
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June 19, 2010 at 10:39 PM #568504
Diego Mamani
ParticipantYes, we were robbed! What’s worse, the ref wouldn’t bother to tell the players why he disallowed the goal. Technically, he’s not required to say why, but he could have done it nonetheless.
I’m not so sure Algeria is weak. The English couldn’t beat them! Team USA can certainly beat Argelia, but it won’t be easy.
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June 20, 2010 at 9:24 AM #567642
Anonymous
Guest[quote=kcal09]Unfortunately, there is no instant review and the refs decision is final. The good news is that the US team will face Algeria which is probably the weakest team in the group.[/quote]
How can you do instant replay on a subjective call like a foul? Typical non-thinking American response thinking that technology can fix everything when it can’t.
I’d much rather see foreign practices influence America as a result of this World Cup than vice versa. It just seems like the rest of the world is way ahead of America in common sense. Here in the U.S., we’ve had disaster after disaster (financial crisis, oil environmental disaster, GMO-food contaminating organics, hydraulic fracturing, etc) because we’ve put our common sense aside.
I love in this day and age of nuclear clocks that the game clock in soccer runs at random times and the end of the game is approximated by the ref to the nearest minute or so. I love that when a French commentator was asked on American television about the dispute between a coach and a player the commentator said (in a heavy French accent) ‘the coach told the player to go fuck himself and that he was a son-of-a-bitch’. I guess in France you can cuss on TV without worrying about right-wing Christian nutjobs.
The U.S. could do worse than looking to other countries and their practices. I hope soccer doesn’t lose its soul by adopting ridiculous American practices like instant replay on subjective calls.
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June 20, 2010 at 9:52 AM #567647
Oxford
Participant[quote=IForget][quote=kcal09]
The U.S. could do worse than looking to other countries and their practices. I hope soccer doesn’t lose its soul by adopting ridiculous American practices like instant replay on subjective calls.[/quote]Ok, Where to begin?
So…?
– Soccer soul = accepting incompetent (or bribed) refs
– Using technology to clarify situations = ridiculous American practicesEmbracing Third World mentalities is fine for specific cultural rituals like standing in a circle and jumping up and down, but com’on, this is the biggest international sporting event in the world! Shirley, you can push aside the voodoo mask and update the standards. It’s not that hard to get it right.
OX
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June 20, 2010 at 10:44 AM #567681
desmond
ParticipantI love how the French team is falling apart and an embarrassment, or just being French. And don’t call me Shirley.
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June 20, 2010 at 11:10 AM #567706
SD Transplant
ParticipantThe Cameroon – Denmark game yesterday, Saturday, was the most exciting game yet. It seemed as it was the final….awesome.
got to run…..Brasil-Cote D’Avoire just starting now
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June 20, 2010 at 11:10 AM #567799
SD Transplant
ParticipantThe Cameroon – Denmark game yesterday, Saturday, was the most exciting game yet. It seemed as it was the final….awesome.
got to run…..Brasil-Cote D’Avoire just starting now
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June 20, 2010 at 11:10 AM #568302
SD Transplant
ParticipantThe Cameroon – Denmark game yesterday, Saturday, was the most exciting game yet. It seemed as it was the final….awesome.
got to run…..Brasil-Cote D’Avoire just starting now
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June 20, 2010 at 11:10 AM #568408
SD Transplant
ParticipantThe Cameroon – Denmark game yesterday, Saturday, was the most exciting game yet. It seemed as it was the final….awesome.
got to run…..Brasil-Cote D’Avoire just starting now
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June 20, 2010 at 11:10 AM #568690
SD Transplant
ParticipantThe Cameroon – Denmark game yesterday, Saturday, was the most exciting game yet. It seemed as it was the final….awesome.
got to run…..Brasil-Cote D’Avoire just starting now
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June 20, 2010 at 10:44 AM #567775
desmond
ParticipantI love how the French team is falling apart and an embarrassment, or just being French. And don’t call me Shirley.
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June 20, 2010 at 10:44 AM #568277
desmond
ParticipantI love how the French team is falling apart and an embarrassment, or just being French. And don’t call me Shirley.
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June 20, 2010 at 10:44 AM #568383
desmond
ParticipantI love how the French team is falling apart and an embarrassment, or just being French. And don’t call me Shirley.
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June 20, 2010 at 10:44 AM #568665
desmond
ParticipantI love how the French team is falling apart and an embarrassment, or just being French. And don’t call me Shirley.
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June 20, 2010 at 9:52 AM #567741
Oxford
Participant[quote=IForget][quote=kcal09]
The U.S. could do worse than looking to other countries and their practices. I hope soccer doesn’t lose its soul by adopting ridiculous American practices like instant replay on subjective calls.[/quote]Ok, Where to begin?
So…?
– Soccer soul = accepting incompetent (or bribed) refs
– Using technology to clarify situations = ridiculous American practicesEmbracing Third World mentalities is fine for specific cultural rituals like standing in a circle and jumping up and down, but com’on, this is the biggest international sporting event in the world! Shirley, you can push aside the voodoo mask and update the standards. It’s not that hard to get it right.
OX
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June 20, 2010 at 9:52 AM #568241
Oxford
Participant[quote=IForget][quote=kcal09]
The U.S. could do worse than looking to other countries and their practices. I hope soccer doesn’t lose its soul by adopting ridiculous American practices like instant replay on subjective calls.[/quote]Ok, Where to begin?
So…?
– Soccer soul = accepting incompetent (or bribed) refs
– Using technology to clarify situations = ridiculous American practicesEmbracing Third World mentalities is fine for specific cultural rituals like standing in a circle and jumping up and down, but com’on, this is the biggest international sporting event in the world! Shirley, you can push aside the voodoo mask and update the standards. It’s not that hard to get it right.
OX
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June 20, 2010 at 9:52 AM #568349
Oxford
Participant[quote=IForget][quote=kcal09]
The U.S. could do worse than looking to other countries and their practices. I hope soccer doesn’t lose its soul by adopting ridiculous American practices like instant replay on subjective calls.[/quote]Ok, Where to begin?
So…?
– Soccer soul = accepting incompetent (or bribed) refs
– Using technology to clarify situations = ridiculous American practicesEmbracing Third World mentalities is fine for specific cultural rituals like standing in a circle and jumping up and down, but com’on, this is the biggest international sporting event in the world! Shirley, you can push aside the voodoo mask and update the standards. It’s not that hard to get it right.
OX
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June 20, 2010 at 9:52 AM #568629
Oxford
Participant[quote=IForget][quote=kcal09]
The U.S. could do worse than looking to other countries and their practices. I hope soccer doesn’t lose its soul by adopting ridiculous American practices like instant replay on subjective calls.[/quote]Ok, Where to begin?
So…?
– Soccer soul = accepting incompetent (or bribed) refs
– Using technology to clarify situations = ridiculous American practicesEmbracing Third World mentalities is fine for specific cultural rituals like standing in a circle and jumping up and down, but com’on, this is the biggest international sporting event in the world! Shirley, you can push aside the voodoo mask and update the standards. It’s not that hard to get it right.
OX
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June 20, 2010 at 11:29 AM #567711
34f3f3f
ParticipantI’m not up on the technical aspects of instant replay etc, but if this had been a final, and a team that clearly played a better game had a goal disallowed, losing the game, mightn’t that be cause for concern? Anyway, I’m not going to let it spoil my entertainment of the biggest global sporting event. Good luck Algeria, good luck US!
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June 20, 2010 at 12:59 PM #567745
afx114
ParticipantI hope soccer doesn’t lose its soul by adopting ridiculous American practices like clocks that count down.
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June 20, 2010 at 2:38 PM #567787
briansd1
GuestYou know that they say about football, err soccer… it’s an un-American socialist sport. Jack Kemp said so. Google it.
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June 20, 2010 at 9:12 PM #567903
34f3f3f
ParticipantThe spirit of the world cup is that national differences are put aside. It’s egalitarianism on a global scale, so yes I guess we are all communists or whatever for the duration.
Historically, I believe football (soccer) was the original game played in the US. However, Harvard didn’t like the rules, so adapted rules from Rugby, to create what has become a hybrid game. They just didn’t change the name. So much money invested in US football is probably what has kept top athletes out of soccer.
I missed most of the Brazil vs CI game. US to face Algeria.
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June 20, 2010 at 9:12 PM #568000
34f3f3f
ParticipantThe spirit of the world cup is that national differences are put aside. It’s egalitarianism on a global scale, so yes I guess we are all communists or whatever for the duration.
Historically, I believe football (soccer) was the original game played in the US. However, Harvard didn’t like the rules, so adapted rules from Rugby, to create what has become a hybrid game. They just didn’t change the name. So much money invested in US football is probably what has kept top athletes out of soccer.
I missed most of the Brazil vs CI game. US to face Algeria.
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June 20, 2010 at 9:12 PM #568503
34f3f3f
ParticipantThe spirit of the world cup is that national differences are put aside. It’s egalitarianism on a global scale, so yes I guess we are all communists or whatever for the duration.
Historically, I believe football (soccer) was the original game played in the US. However, Harvard didn’t like the rules, so adapted rules from Rugby, to create what has become a hybrid game. They just didn’t change the name. So much money invested in US football is probably what has kept top athletes out of soccer.
I missed most of the Brazil vs CI game. US to face Algeria.
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June 20, 2010 at 9:12 PM #568611
34f3f3f
ParticipantThe spirit of the world cup is that national differences are put aside. It’s egalitarianism on a global scale, so yes I guess we are all communists or whatever for the duration.
Historically, I believe football (soccer) was the original game played in the US. However, Harvard didn’t like the rules, so adapted rules from Rugby, to create what has become a hybrid game. They just didn’t change the name. So much money invested in US football is probably what has kept top athletes out of soccer.
I missed most of the Brazil vs CI game. US to face Algeria.
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June 20, 2010 at 9:12 PM #568891
34f3f3f
ParticipantThe spirit of the world cup is that national differences are put aside. It’s egalitarianism on a global scale, so yes I guess we are all communists or whatever for the duration.
Historically, I believe football (soccer) was the original game played in the US. However, Harvard didn’t like the rules, so adapted rules from Rugby, to create what has become a hybrid game. They just didn’t change the name. So much money invested in US football is probably what has kept top athletes out of soccer.
I missed most of the Brazil vs CI game. US to face Algeria.
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June 21, 2010 at 12:05 AM #568031
sdrealtor
Participant[quote=briansd1]You know that they say about football, err soccer… it’s an un-American socialist sport. Jack Kemp said so. Google it.[/quote]
Uh..time to throw a flag.
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June 21, 2010 at 2:05 AM #568046
weberlin
Participant[quote=sdrealtor][quote=briansd1]You know that they say about football, err soccer… it’s an un-American socialist sport. Jack Kemp said so. Google it.[/quote]
Uh..time to throw a flag.[/quote]
Seriously. Didn’t Rich T. made a personal appearance on the forums to admonish user(s) about political thread jacking?
What does Jack Kemp have to do with the USA v. Slovenia World Cup match in 2010?
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June 21, 2010 at 2:14 AM #568051
Zeitgeist
ParticipantAmen. Throwing the old flag on Brian who obviously wants to start another anti-American rant. Rich, he’s doing it again. Go USA!
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June 22, 2010 at 10:55 AM #569116
briansd1
Guest[quote=Zeitgeist]Amen. Throwing the old flag on Brian who obviously wants to start another anti-American rant. Rich, he’s doing it again. Go USA![/quote]
What did I do?
Jack Kemp, a former American-football player, thinks that football is socialist un-American.
Why would that start an anti-American rant?
I believe that Jack Kemp was being very pro-American in his own way.
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June 22, 2010 at 10:55 AM #569212
briansd1
Guest[quote=Zeitgeist]Amen. Throwing the old flag on Brian who obviously wants to start another anti-American rant. Rich, he’s doing it again. Go USA![/quote]
What did I do?
Jack Kemp, a former American-football player, thinks that football is socialist un-American.
Why would that start an anti-American rant?
I believe that Jack Kemp was being very pro-American in his own way.
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June 22, 2010 at 10:55 AM #569719
briansd1
Guest[quote=Zeitgeist]Amen. Throwing the old flag on Brian who obviously wants to start another anti-American rant. Rich, he’s doing it again. Go USA![/quote]
What did I do?
Jack Kemp, a former American-football player, thinks that football is socialist un-American.
Why would that start an anti-American rant?
I believe that Jack Kemp was being very pro-American in his own way.
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June 22, 2010 at 10:55 AM #569822
briansd1
Guest[quote=Zeitgeist]Amen. Throwing the old flag on Brian who obviously wants to start another anti-American rant. Rich, he’s doing it again. Go USA![/quote]
What did I do?
Jack Kemp, a former American-football player, thinks that football is socialist un-American.
Why would that start an anti-American rant?
I believe that Jack Kemp was being very pro-American in his own way.
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June 22, 2010 at 10:55 AM #570106
briansd1
Guest[quote=Zeitgeist]Amen. Throwing the old flag on Brian who obviously wants to start another anti-American rant. Rich, he’s doing it again. Go USA![/quote]
What did I do?
Jack Kemp, a former American-football player, thinks that football is socialist un-American.
Why would that start an anti-American rant?
I believe that Jack Kemp was being very pro-American in his own way.
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June 21, 2010 at 2:14 AM #568148
Zeitgeist
ParticipantAmen. Throwing the old flag on Brian who obviously wants to start another anti-American rant. Rich, he’s doing it again. Go USA!
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June 21, 2010 at 2:14 AM #568652
Zeitgeist
ParticipantAmen. Throwing the old flag on Brian who obviously wants to start another anti-American rant. Rich, he’s doing it again. Go USA!
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June 21, 2010 at 2:14 AM #568758
Zeitgeist
ParticipantAmen. Throwing the old flag on Brian who obviously wants to start another anti-American rant. Rich, he’s doing it again. Go USA!
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June 21, 2010 at 2:14 AM #569041
Zeitgeist
ParticipantAmen. Throwing the old flag on Brian who obviously wants to start another anti-American rant. Rich, he’s doing it again. Go USA!
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June 21, 2010 at 2:05 AM #568143
weberlin
Participant[quote=sdrealtor][quote=briansd1]You know that they say about football, err soccer… it’s an un-American socialist sport. Jack Kemp said so. Google it.[/quote]
Uh..time to throw a flag.[/quote]
Seriously. Didn’t Rich T. made a personal appearance on the forums to admonish user(s) about political thread jacking?
What does Jack Kemp have to do with the USA v. Slovenia World Cup match in 2010?
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June 21, 2010 at 2:05 AM #568647
weberlin
Participant[quote=sdrealtor][quote=briansd1]You know that they say about football, err soccer… it’s an un-American socialist sport. Jack Kemp said so. Google it.[/quote]
Uh..time to throw a flag.[/quote]
Seriously. Didn’t Rich T. made a personal appearance on the forums to admonish user(s) about political thread jacking?
What does Jack Kemp have to do with the USA v. Slovenia World Cup match in 2010?
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June 21, 2010 at 2:05 AM #568754
weberlin
Participant[quote=sdrealtor][quote=briansd1]You know that they say about football, err soccer… it’s an un-American socialist sport. Jack Kemp said so. Google it.[/quote]
Uh..time to throw a flag.[/quote]
Seriously. Didn’t Rich T. made a personal appearance on the forums to admonish user(s) about political thread jacking?
What does Jack Kemp have to do with the USA v. Slovenia World Cup match in 2010?
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June 21, 2010 at 2:05 AM #569036
weberlin
Participant[quote=sdrealtor][quote=briansd1]You know that they say about football, err soccer… it’s an un-American socialist sport. Jack Kemp said so. Google it.[/quote]
Uh..time to throw a flag.[/quote]
Seriously. Didn’t Rich T. made a personal appearance on the forums to admonish user(s) about political thread jacking?
What does Jack Kemp have to do with the USA v. Slovenia World Cup match in 2010?
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June 21, 2010 at 12:05 AM #568128
sdrealtor
Participant[quote=briansd1]You know that they say about football, err soccer… it’s an un-American socialist sport. Jack Kemp said so. Google it.[/quote]
Uh..time to throw a flag.
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June 21, 2010 at 12:05 AM #568633
sdrealtor
Participant[quote=briansd1]You know that they say about football, err soccer… it’s an un-American socialist sport. Jack Kemp said so. Google it.[/quote]
Uh..time to throw a flag.
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June 21, 2010 at 12:05 AM #568739
sdrealtor
Participant[quote=briansd1]You know that they say about football, err soccer… it’s an un-American socialist sport. Jack Kemp said so. Google it.[/quote]
Uh..time to throw a flag.
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June 21, 2010 at 12:05 AM #569021
sdrealtor
Participant[quote=briansd1]You know that they say about football, err soccer… it’s an un-American socialist sport. Jack Kemp said so. Google it.[/quote]
Uh..time to throw a flag.
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June 20, 2010 at 2:38 PM #567880
briansd1
GuestYou know that they say about football, err soccer… it’s an un-American socialist sport. Jack Kemp said so. Google it.
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June 20, 2010 at 2:38 PM #568385
briansd1
GuestYou know that they say about football, err soccer… it’s an un-American socialist sport. Jack Kemp said so. Google it.
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June 20, 2010 at 2:38 PM #568491
briansd1
GuestYou know that they say about football, err soccer… it’s an un-American socialist sport. Jack Kemp said so. Google it.
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June 20, 2010 at 2:38 PM #568771
briansd1
GuestYou know that they say about football, err soccer… it’s an un-American socialist sport. Jack Kemp said so. Google it.
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June 20, 2010 at 12:59 PM #567837
afx114
ParticipantI hope soccer doesn’t lose its soul by adopting ridiculous American practices like clocks that count down.
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June 20, 2010 at 12:59 PM #568342
afx114
ParticipantI hope soccer doesn’t lose its soul by adopting ridiculous American practices like clocks that count down.
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June 20, 2010 at 12:59 PM #568448
afx114
ParticipantI hope soccer doesn’t lose its soul by adopting ridiculous American practices like clocks that count down.
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June 20, 2010 at 12:59 PM #568730
afx114
ParticipantI hope soccer doesn’t lose its soul by adopting ridiculous American practices like clocks that count down.
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June 21, 2010 at 8:06 AM #568085
all
Participant[quote=qwerty007]I’m not up on the technical aspects of instant replay etc, but if this had been a final, and a team that clearly played a better game had a goal disallowed, losing the game, mightn’t that be cause for concern? Anyway, I’m not going to let it spoil my entertainment of the biggest global sporting event. Good luck Algeria, good luck US![/quote]
It’s part of the game. I believe UEFA did experiments with instant reply, but it affects the flow of the game.
Worse oversights have happened before against countries with more influence with FIFA – like Maradona’s hand of God. It’s a goal if the ref says so (and vice versa).
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June 21, 2010 at 9:08 AM #568130
afx114
ParticipantSoccer needs to implement a diving penalty like hockey. I’ve never seen so many arms to the mid-section afflict the face! If anything is affecting the flow of the game it is all of the pathetic divers attempting to draw a penalty.
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June 21, 2010 at 9:13 AM #568140
desmond
Participant[quote=afx114]Soccer needs to implement a diving penalty like hockey. I’ve never seen so many arms to the mid-section afflict the face! If anything is affecting the flow of the game it is all of the pathetic divers attempting to draw a penalty.[/quote]
I saw a yellow card today (Chile vs Switz) on a dive (flop), so they must have it. I am not an expert, but I have seen so many missed goals, easy goals according to the announcer, at crucial moments.
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June 21, 2010 at 10:55 AM #568239
CardiffBaseball
ParticipantI take back everything I said about Pau Gasol being a puss.
I watched more soccer yesterday as I was forced to at BJ’s with the direction I was sitting.
As an ugly-american I am going to speak for all americans. If the world ever wants us to love this sport, these grown men better grow a pair and quit acting like ballerina’s when they get touched. It’s disgusting to see men act this way.
If you’ve never laced up football pads you cannot possibly imagine how violent the contact is. Yet, running backs often take the contact and keep playing through it. Yes that is part of the game, but that is WHAT WE LOVE. We love seeing Bo Jackson blast through Bosworth, not seeing some sissy flopper flail about trying to draw a yellow card. This is a country who appreciates MMA fighters, and standing tall not tail between the legs guys trying to get one over on the officials. I’d like to see the US do well, but man I hope our guys don’t act this.
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June 21, 2010 at 11:43 AM #568268
all
Participant[quote=CardiffBaseball]I take back everything I said about Pau Gasol being a puss.
I watched more soccer yesterday as I was forced to at BJ’s with the direction I was sitting.
As an ugly-american I am going to speak for all americans. If the world ever wants us to love this sport, these grown men better grow a pair and quit acting like ballerina’s when they get touched. It’s disgusting to see men act this way.
If you’ve never laced up football pads you cannot possibly imagine how violent the contact is. Yet, running backs often take the contact and keep playing through it. Yes that is part of the game, but that is WHAT WE LOVE. We love seeing Bo Jackson blast through Bosworth, not seeing some sissy flopper flail about trying to draw a yellow card. This is a country who appreciates MMA fighters, and standing tall not tail between the legs guys trying to get one over on the officials. I’d like to see the US do well, but man I hope our guys don’t act this.[/quote]
It’s hard to keep the flow or even retain the control of the ball if someone is pushing, pulling or hitting you. There are sports, like handball (one with 6+1 players and no wall involved), that are much more physical and still fairly popular.
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June 21, 2010 at 2:08 PM #568370
DWCAP
Participant[quote=captcha][quote=CardiffBaseball]I take back everything I said about Pau Gasol being a puss.
I watched more soccer yesterday as I was forced to at BJ’s with the direction I was sitting.
As an ugly-american I am going to speak for all americans. If the world ever wants us to love this sport, these grown men better grow a pair and quit acting like ballerina’s when they get touched. It’s disgusting to see men act this way.
If you’ve never laced up football pads you cannot possibly imagine how violent the contact is. Yet, running backs often take the contact and keep playing through it. Yes that is part of the game, but that is WHAT WE LOVE. We love seeing Bo Jackson blast through Bosworth, not seeing some sissy flopper flail about trying to draw a yellow card. This is a country who appreciates MMA fighters, and standing tall not tail between the legs guys trying to get one over on the officials. I’d like to see the US do well, but man I hope our guys don’t act this.[/quote]
It’s hard to keep the flow or even retain the control of the ball if someone is pushing, pulling or hitting you. There are sports, like handball (one with 6+1 players and no wall involved), that are much more physical and still fairly popular.[/quote]
Well, that is kinda the point. If they are putting a hip into you that is totally legal, and yet gets you off the ball. If I trip you or hit you (hard) then I should get called as this isnt MMA. But I totally agree with Cardiff on this one, and I have played/watched soccer all my life.
But, on the other hand, it is a very large field for a ref to try to be everywhere at once. They need to open the ref’s up to questions after the game is my suggestion. They should be forced to tell people what they called in the questionable plays. People would start demanding better refs, and have a way to figure out who is the better ref after a while.
BTW, the only fouls I noticed on that rejected US goal were against the other team. One US player was in a head lock, the other in a bear hug. How the HELL did he miss those? Ref’s need to be forced to explain themselves. Maybe from his point of view he though he saw something, and without the advantage of multiview slow motion he was just SOL. Ill accept that. I wont accept the ‘my shit dont stink’ kinda attitude they have currently.
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June 21, 2010 at 9:21 PM #568718
sunny88
ParticipantThe same happened today during the Chile-Switzerland match where the ref sent off a Swiss player after he tried to fend off an aggressive opponent who acted like he was hit in his face. It was a ridiculous call of an incompetent ref.
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June 21, 2010 at 9:21 PM #568813
sunny88
ParticipantThe same happened today during the Chile-Switzerland match where the ref sent off a Swiss player after he tried to fend off an aggressive opponent who acted like he was hit in his face. It was a ridiculous call of an incompetent ref.
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June 21, 2010 at 9:21 PM #569323
sunny88
ParticipantThe same happened today during the Chile-Switzerland match where the ref sent off a Swiss player after he tried to fend off an aggressive opponent who acted like he was hit in his face. It was a ridiculous call of an incompetent ref.
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June 21, 2010 at 9:21 PM #569428
sunny88
ParticipantThe same happened today during the Chile-Switzerland match where the ref sent off a Swiss player after he tried to fend off an aggressive opponent who acted like he was hit in his face. It was a ridiculous call of an incompetent ref.
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June 21, 2010 at 9:21 PM #569712
sunny88
ParticipantThe same happened today during the Chile-Switzerland match where the ref sent off a Swiss player after he tried to fend off an aggressive opponent who acted like he was hit in his face. It was a ridiculous call of an incompetent ref.
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June 21, 2010 at 2:08 PM #568467
DWCAP
Participant[quote=captcha][quote=CardiffBaseball]I take back everything I said about Pau Gasol being a puss.
I watched more soccer yesterday as I was forced to at BJ’s with the direction I was sitting.
As an ugly-american I am going to speak for all americans. If the world ever wants us to love this sport, these grown men better grow a pair and quit acting like ballerina’s when they get touched. It’s disgusting to see men act this way.
If you’ve never laced up football pads you cannot possibly imagine how violent the contact is. Yet, running backs often take the contact and keep playing through it. Yes that is part of the game, but that is WHAT WE LOVE. We love seeing Bo Jackson blast through Bosworth, not seeing some sissy flopper flail about trying to draw a yellow card. This is a country who appreciates MMA fighters, and standing tall not tail between the legs guys trying to get one over on the officials. I’d like to see the US do well, but man I hope our guys don’t act this.[/quote]
It’s hard to keep the flow or even retain the control of the ball if someone is pushing, pulling or hitting you. There are sports, like handball (one with 6+1 players and no wall involved), that are much more physical and still fairly popular.[/quote]
Well, that is kinda the point. If they are putting a hip into you that is totally legal, and yet gets you off the ball. If I trip you or hit you (hard) then I should get called as this isnt MMA. But I totally agree with Cardiff on this one, and I have played/watched soccer all my life.
But, on the other hand, it is a very large field for a ref to try to be everywhere at once. They need to open the ref’s up to questions after the game is my suggestion. They should be forced to tell people what they called in the questionable plays. People would start demanding better refs, and have a way to figure out who is the better ref after a while.
BTW, the only fouls I noticed on that rejected US goal were against the other team. One US player was in a head lock, the other in a bear hug. How the HELL did he miss those? Ref’s need to be forced to explain themselves. Maybe from his point of view he though he saw something, and without the advantage of multiview slow motion he was just SOL. Ill accept that. I wont accept the ‘my shit dont stink’ kinda attitude they have currently.
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June 21, 2010 at 2:08 PM #568972
DWCAP
Participant[quote=captcha][quote=CardiffBaseball]I take back everything I said about Pau Gasol being a puss.
I watched more soccer yesterday as I was forced to at BJ’s with the direction I was sitting.
As an ugly-american I am going to speak for all americans. If the world ever wants us to love this sport, these grown men better grow a pair and quit acting like ballerina’s when they get touched. It’s disgusting to see men act this way.
If you’ve never laced up football pads you cannot possibly imagine how violent the contact is. Yet, running backs often take the contact and keep playing through it. Yes that is part of the game, but that is WHAT WE LOVE. We love seeing Bo Jackson blast through Bosworth, not seeing some sissy flopper flail about trying to draw a yellow card. This is a country who appreciates MMA fighters, and standing tall not tail between the legs guys trying to get one over on the officials. I’d like to see the US do well, but man I hope our guys don’t act this.[/quote]
It’s hard to keep the flow or even retain the control of the ball if someone is pushing, pulling or hitting you. There are sports, like handball (one with 6+1 players and no wall involved), that are much more physical and still fairly popular.[/quote]
Well, that is kinda the point. If they are putting a hip into you that is totally legal, and yet gets you off the ball. If I trip you or hit you (hard) then I should get called as this isnt MMA. But I totally agree with Cardiff on this one, and I have played/watched soccer all my life.
But, on the other hand, it is a very large field for a ref to try to be everywhere at once. They need to open the ref’s up to questions after the game is my suggestion. They should be forced to tell people what they called in the questionable plays. People would start demanding better refs, and have a way to figure out who is the better ref after a while.
BTW, the only fouls I noticed on that rejected US goal were against the other team. One US player was in a head lock, the other in a bear hug. How the HELL did he miss those? Ref’s need to be forced to explain themselves. Maybe from his point of view he though he saw something, and without the advantage of multiview slow motion he was just SOL. Ill accept that. I wont accept the ‘my shit dont stink’ kinda attitude they have currently.
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June 21, 2010 at 2:08 PM #569079
DWCAP
Participant[quote=captcha][quote=CardiffBaseball]I take back everything I said about Pau Gasol being a puss.
I watched more soccer yesterday as I was forced to at BJ’s with the direction I was sitting.
As an ugly-american I am going to speak for all americans. If the world ever wants us to love this sport, these grown men better grow a pair and quit acting like ballerina’s when they get touched. It’s disgusting to see men act this way.
If you’ve never laced up football pads you cannot possibly imagine how violent the contact is. Yet, running backs often take the contact and keep playing through it. Yes that is part of the game, but that is WHAT WE LOVE. We love seeing Bo Jackson blast through Bosworth, not seeing some sissy flopper flail about trying to draw a yellow card. This is a country who appreciates MMA fighters, and standing tall not tail between the legs guys trying to get one over on the officials. I’d like to see the US do well, but man I hope our guys don’t act this.[/quote]
It’s hard to keep the flow or even retain the control of the ball if someone is pushing, pulling or hitting you. There are sports, like handball (one with 6+1 players and no wall involved), that are much more physical and still fairly popular.[/quote]
Well, that is kinda the point. If they are putting a hip into you that is totally legal, and yet gets you off the ball. If I trip you or hit you (hard) then I should get called as this isnt MMA. But I totally agree with Cardiff on this one, and I have played/watched soccer all my life.
But, on the other hand, it is a very large field for a ref to try to be everywhere at once. They need to open the ref’s up to questions after the game is my suggestion. They should be forced to tell people what they called in the questionable plays. People would start demanding better refs, and have a way to figure out who is the better ref after a while.
BTW, the only fouls I noticed on that rejected US goal were against the other team. One US player was in a head lock, the other in a bear hug. How the HELL did he miss those? Ref’s need to be forced to explain themselves. Maybe from his point of view he though he saw something, and without the advantage of multiview slow motion he was just SOL. Ill accept that. I wont accept the ‘my shit dont stink’ kinda attitude they have currently.
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June 21, 2010 at 2:08 PM #569363
DWCAP
Participant[quote=captcha][quote=CardiffBaseball]I take back everything I said about Pau Gasol being a puss.
I watched more soccer yesterday as I was forced to at BJ’s with the direction I was sitting.
As an ugly-american I am going to speak for all americans. If the world ever wants us to love this sport, these grown men better grow a pair and quit acting like ballerina’s when they get touched. It’s disgusting to see men act this way.
If you’ve never laced up football pads you cannot possibly imagine how violent the contact is. Yet, running backs often take the contact and keep playing through it. Yes that is part of the game, but that is WHAT WE LOVE. We love seeing Bo Jackson blast through Bosworth, not seeing some sissy flopper flail about trying to draw a yellow card. This is a country who appreciates MMA fighters, and standing tall not tail between the legs guys trying to get one over on the officials. I’d like to see the US do well, but man I hope our guys don’t act this.[/quote]
It’s hard to keep the flow or even retain the control of the ball if someone is pushing, pulling or hitting you. There are sports, like handball (one with 6+1 players and no wall involved), that are much more physical and still fairly popular.[/quote]
Well, that is kinda the point. If they are putting a hip into you that is totally legal, and yet gets you off the ball. If I trip you or hit you (hard) then I should get called as this isnt MMA. But I totally agree with Cardiff on this one, and I have played/watched soccer all my life.
But, on the other hand, it is a very large field for a ref to try to be everywhere at once. They need to open the ref’s up to questions after the game is my suggestion. They should be forced to tell people what they called in the questionable plays. People would start demanding better refs, and have a way to figure out who is the better ref after a while.
BTW, the only fouls I noticed on that rejected US goal were against the other team. One US player was in a head lock, the other in a bear hug. How the HELL did he miss those? Ref’s need to be forced to explain themselves. Maybe from his point of view he though he saw something, and without the advantage of multiview slow motion he was just SOL. Ill accept that. I wont accept the ‘my shit dont stink’ kinda attitude they have currently.
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June 21, 2010 at 11:43 AM #568365
all
Participant[quote=CardiffBaseball]I take back everything I said about Pau Gasol being a puss.
I watched more soccer yesterday as I was forced to at BJ’s with the direction I was sitting.
As an ugly-american I am going to speak for all americans. If the world ever wants us to love this sport, these grown men better grow a pair and quit acting like ballerina’s when they get touched. It’s disgusting to see men act this way.
If you’ve never laced up football pads you cannot possibly imagine how violent the contact is. Yet, running backs often take the contact and keep playing through it. Yes that is part of the game, but that is WHAT WE LOVE. We love seeing Bo Jackson blast through Bosworth, not seeing some sissy flopper flail about trying to draw a yellow card. This is a country who appreciates MMA fighters, and standing tall not tail between the legs guys trying to get one over on the officials. I’d like to see the US do well, but man I hope our guys don’t act this.[/quote]
It’s hard to keep the flow or even retain the control of the ball if someone is pushing, pulling or hitting you. There are sports, like handball (one with 6+1 players and no wall involved), that are much more physical and still fairly popular.
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June 21, 2010 at 11:43 AM #568867
all
Participant[quote=CardiffBaseball]I take back everything I said about Pau Gasol being a puss.
I watched more soccer yesterday as I was forced to at BJ’s with the direction I was sitting.
As an ugly-american I am going to speak for all americans. If the world ever wants us to love this sport, these grown men better grow a pair and quit acting like ballerina’s when they get touched. It’s disgusting to see men act this way.
If you’ve never laced up football pads you cannot possibly imagine how violent the contact is. Yet, running backs often take the contact and keep playing through it. Yes that is part of the game, but that is WHAT WE LOVE. We love seeing Bo Jackson blast through Bosworth, not seeing some sissy flopper flail about trying to draw a yellow card. This is a country who appreciates MMA fighters, and standing tall not tail between the legs guys trying to get one over on the officials. I’d like to see the US do well, but man I hope our guys don’t act this.[/quote]
It’s hard to keep the flow or even retain the control of the ball if someone is pushing, pulling or hitting you. There are sports, like handball (one with 6+1 players and no wall involved), that are much more physical and still fairly popular.
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June 21, 2010 at 11:43 AM #568974
all
Participant[quote=CardiffBaseball]I take back everything I said about Pau Gasol being a puss.
I watched more soccer yesterday as I was forced to at BJ’s with the direction I was sitting.
As an ugly-american I am going to speak for all americans. If the world ever wants us to love this sport, these grown men better grow a pair and quit acting like ballerina’s when they get touched. It’s disgusting to see men act this way.
If you’ve never laced up football pads you cannot possibly imagine how violent the contact is. Yet, running backs often take the contact and keep playing through it. Yes that is part of the game, but that is WHAT WE LOVE. We love seeing Bo Jackson blast through Bosworth, not seeing some sissy flopper flail about trying to draw a yellow card. This is a country who appreciates MMA fighters, and standing tall not tail between the legs guys trying to get one over on the officials. I’d like to see the US do well, but man I hope our guys don’t act this.[/quote]
It’s hard to keep the flow or even retain the control of the ball if someone is pushing, pulling or hitting you. There are sports, like handball (one with 6+1 players and no wall involved), that are much more physical and still fairly popular.
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June 21, 2010 at 11:43 AM #569259
all
Participant[quote=CardiffBaseball]I take back everything I said about Pau Gasol being a puss.
I watched more soccer yesterday as I was forced to at BJ’s with the direction I was sitting.
As an ugly-american I am going to speak for all americans. If the world ever wants us to love this sport, these grown men better grow a pair and quit acting like ballerina’s when they get touched. It’s disgusting to see men act this way.
If you’ve never laced up football pads you cannot possibly imagine how violent the contact is. Yet, running backs often take the contact and keep playing through it. Yes that is part of the game, but that is WHAT WE LOVE. We love seeing Bo Jackson blast through Bosworth, not seeing some sissy flopper flail about trying to draw a yellow card. This is a country who appreciates MMA fighters, and standing tall not tail between the legs guys trying to get one over on the officials. I’d like to see the US do well, but man I hope our guys don’t act this.[/quote]
It’s hard to keep the flow or even retain the control of the ball if someone is pushing, pulling or hitting you. There are sports, like handball (one with 6+1 players and no wall involved), that are much more physical and still fairly popular.
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June 22, 2010 at 9:06 AM #569043
sdduuuude
Participant[quote=CardiffBaseball]I take back everything I said about Pau Gasol being a puss.
I watched more soccer yesterday as I was forced to at BJ’s with the direction I was sitting.
As an ugly-american I am going to speak for all americans. If the world ever wants us to love this sport, these grown men better grow a pair and quit acting like ballerina’s when they get touched. It’s disgusting to see men act this way.
If you’ve never laced up football pads you cannot possibly imagine how violent the contact is. Yet, running backs often take the contact and keep playing through it. Yes that is part of the game, but that is WHAT WE LOVE. We love seeing Bo Jackson blast through Bosworth, not seeing some sissy flopper flail about trying to draw a yellow card. This is a country who appreciates MMA fighters, and standing tall not tail between the legs guys trying to get one over on the officials. I’d like to see the US do well, but man I hope our guys don’t act this.[/quote]
You are both right and wrong here. The thing about soccer is that there are no pads. Until you have been kicked in the ankle, elbowed in the head, kicked in the face, or tripped running full-speed without any pads on, you have no idea how much it hurts.
The acting, of course, is prevalent and annoying.
The real pain of getting fouled is why the acting works – because when you do get fouled, it hurts like a motherF(*&er. Even the slightest bone-to-bone touches are painful. Go ahead and kick a friend in the shin with your shin and see if you don’t wince a bit.
I think a great solution to all this would be retroactive changes to yellow cards based on replays. This could be done during the game, at half-time, and/or after the game. Retracting yellow and red cards on players who received them but did not really foul, and giving yellow cards to the actors. Wouldn’t affect the game, but it would provide significant and appropriate dis-incentive.
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June 22, 2010 at 9:06 AM #569139
sdduuuude
Participant[quote=CardiffBaseball]I take back everything I said about Pau Gasol being a puss.
I watched more soccer yesterday as I was forced to at BJ’s with the direction I was sitting.
As an ugly-american I am going to speak for all americans. If the world ever wants us to love this sport, these grown men better grow a pair and quit acting like ballerina’s when they get touched. It’s disgusting to see men act this way.
If you’ve never laced up football pads you cannot possibly imagine how violent the contact is. Yet, running backs often take the contact and keep playing through it. Yes that is part of the game, but that is WHAT WE LOVE. We love seeing Bo Jackson blast through Bosworth, not seeing some sissy flopper flail about trying to draw a yellow card. This is a country who appreciates MMA fighters, and standing tall not tail between the legs guys trying to get one over on the officials. I’d like to see the US do well, but man I hope our guys don’t act this.[/quote]
You are both right and wrong here. The thing about soccer is that there are no pads. Until you have been kicked in the ankle, elbowed in the head, kicked in the face, or tripped running full-speed without any pads on, you have no idea how much it hurts.
The acting, of course, is prevalent and annoying.
The real pain of getting fouled is why the acting works – because when you do get fouled, it hurts like a motherF(*&er. Even the slightest bone-to-bone touches are painful. Go ahead and kick a friend in the shin with your shin and see if you don’t wince a bit.
I think a great solution to all this would be retroactive changes to yellow cards based on replays. This could be done during the game, at half-time, and/or after the game. Retracting yellow and red cards on players who received them but did not really foul, and giving yellow cards to the actors. Wouldn’t affect the game, but it would provide significant and appropriate dis-incentive.
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June 22, 2010 at 9:06 AM #569646
sdduuuude
Participant[quote=CardiffBaseball]I take back everything I said about Pau Gasol being a puss.
I watched more soccer yesterday as I was forced to at BJ’s with the direction I was sitting.
As an ugly-american I am going to speak for all americans. If the world ever wants us to love this sport, these grown men better grow a pair and quit acting like ballerina’s when they get touched. It’s disgusting to see men act this way.
If you’ve never laced up football pads you cannot possibly imagine how violent the contact is. Yet, running backs often take the contact and keep playing through it. Yes that is part of the game, but that is WHAT WE LOVE. We love seeing Bo Jackson blast through Bosworth, not seeing some sissy flopper flail about trying to draw a yellow card. This is a country who appreciates MMA fighters, and standing tall not tail between the legs guys trying to get one over on the officials. I’d like to see the US do well, but man I hope our guys don’t act this.[/quote]
You are both right and wrong here. The thing about soccer is that there are no pads. Until you have been kicked in the ankle, elbowed in the head, kicked in the face, or tripped running full-speed without any pads on, you have no idea how much it hurts.
The acting, of course, is prevalent and annoying.
The real pain of getting fouled is why the acting works – because when you do get fouled, it hurts like a motherF(*&er. Even the slightest bone-to-bone touches are painful. Go ahead and kick a friend in the shin with your shin and see if you don’t wince a bit.
I think a great solution to all this would be retroactive changes to yellow cards based on replays. This could be done during the game, at half-time, and/or after the game. Retracting yellow and red cards on players who received them but did not really foul, and giving yellow cards to the actors. Wouldn’t affect the game, but it would provide significant and appropriate dis-incentive.
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June 22, 2010 at 9:06 AM #569751
sdduuuude
Participant[quote=CardiffBaseball]I take back everything I said about Pau Gasol being a puss.
I watched more soccer yesterday as I was forced to at BJ’s with the direction I was sitting.
As an ugly-american I am going to speak for all americans. If the world ever wants us to love this sport, these grown men better grow a pair and quit acting like ballerina’s when they get touched. It’s disgusting to see men act this way.
If you’ve never laced up football pads you cannot possibly imagine how violent the contact is. Yet, running backs often take the contact and keep playing through it. Yes that is part of the game, but that is WHAT WE LOVE. We love seeing Bo Jackson blast through Bosworth, not seeing some sissy flopper flail about trying to draw a yellow card. This is a country who appreciates MMA fighters, and standing tall not tail between the legs guys trying to get one over on the officials. I’d like to see the US do well, but man I hope our guys don’t act this.[/quote]
You are both right and wrong here. The thing about soccer is that there are no pads. Until you have been kicked in the ankle, elbowed in the head, kicked in the face, or tripped running full-speed without any pads on, you have no idea how much it hurts.
The acting, of course, is prevalent and annoying.
The real pain of getting fouled is why the acting works – because when you do get fouled, it hurts like a motherF(*&er. Even the slightest bone-to-bone touches are painful. Go ahead and kick a friend in the shin with your shin and see if you don’t wince a bit.
I think a great solution to all this would be retroactive changes to yellow cards based on replays. This could be done during the game, at half-time, and/or after the game. Retracting yellow and red cards on players who received them but did not really foul, and giving yellow cards to the actors. Wouldn’t affect the game, but it would provide significant and appropriate dis-incentive.
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June 22, 2010 at 9:06 AM #570033
sdduuuude
Participant[quote=CardiffBaseball]I take back everything I said about Pau Gasol being a puss.
I watched more soccer yesterday as I was forced to at BJ’s with the direction I was sitting.
As an ugly-american I am going to speak for all americans. If the world ever wants us to love this sport, these grown men better grow a pair and quit acting like ballerina’s when they get touched. It’s disgusting to see men act this way.
If you’ve never laced up football pads you cannot possibly imagine how violent the contact is. Yet, running backs often take the contact and keep playing through it. Yes that is part of the game, but that is WHAT WE LOVE. We love seeing Bo Jackson blast through Bosworth, not seeing some sissy flopper flail about trying to draw a yellow card. This is a country who appreciates MMA fighters, and standing tall not tail between the legs guys trying to get one over on the officials. I’d like to see the US do well, but man I hope our guys don’t act this.[/quote]
You are both right and wrong here. The thing about soccer is that there are no pads. Until you have been kicked in the ankle, elbowed in the head, kicked in the face, or tripped running full-speed without any pads on, you have no idea how much it hurts.
The acting, of course, is prevalent and annoying.
The real pain of getting fouled is why the acting works – because when you do get fouled, it hurts like a motherF(*&er. Even the slightest bone-to-bone touches are painful. Go ahead and kick a friend in the shin with your shin and see if you don’t wince a bit.
I think a great solution to all this would be retroactive changes to yellow cards based on replays. This could be done during the game, at half-time, and/or after the game. Retracting yellow and red cards on players who received them but did not really foul, and giving yellow cards to the actors. Wouldn’t affect the game, but it would provide significant and appropriate dis-incentive.
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June 21, 2010 at 10:55 AM #568336
CardiffBaseball
ParticipantI take back everything I said about Pau Gasol being a puss.
I watched more soccer yesterday as I was forced to at BJ’s with the direction I was sitting.
As an ugly-american I am going to speak for all americans. If the world ever wants us to love this sport, these grown men better grow a pair and quit acting like ballerina’s when they get touched. It’s disgusting to see men act this way.
If you’ve never laced up football pads you cannot possibly imagine how violent the contact is. Yet, running backs often take the contact and keep playing through it. Yes that is part of the game, but that is WHAT WE LOVE. We love seeing Bo Jackson blast through Bosworth, not seeing some sissy flopper flail about trying to draw a yellow card. This is a country who appreciates MMA fighters, and standing tall not tail between the legs guys trying to get one over on the officials. I’d like to see the US do well, but man I hope our guys don’t act this.
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June 21, 2010 at 10:55 AM #568837
CardiffBaseball
ParticipantI take back everything I said about Pau Gasol being a puss.
I watched more soccer yesterday as I was forced to at BJ’s with the direction I was sitting.
As an ugly-american I am going to speak for all americans. If the world ever wants us to love this sport, these grown men better grow a pair and quit acting like ballerina’s when they get touched. It’s disgusting to see men act this way.
If you’ve never laced up football pads you cannot possibly imagine how violent the contact is. Yet, running backs often take the contact and keep playing through it. Yes that is part of the game, but that is WHAT WE LOVE. We love seeing Bo Jackson blast through Bosworth, not seeing some sissy flopper flail about trying to draw a yellow card. This is a country who appreciates MMA fighters, and standing tall not tail between the legs guys trying to get one over on the officials. I’d like to see the US do well, but man I hope our guys don’t act this.
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June 21, 2010 at 10:55 AM #568944
CardiffBaseball
ParticipantI take back everything I said about Pau Gasol being a puss.
I watched more soccer yesterday as I was forced to at BJ’s with the direction I was sitting.
As an ugly-american I am going to speak for all americans. If the world ever wants us to love this sport, these grown men better grow a pair and quit acting like ballerina’s when they get touched. It’s disgusting to see men act this way.
If you’ve never laced up football pads you cannot possibly imagine how violent the contact is. Yet, running backs often take the contact and keep playing through it. Yes that is part of the game, but that is WHAT WE LOVE. We love seeing Bo Jackson blast through Bosworth, not seeing some sissy flopper flail about trying to draw a yellow card. This is a country who appreciates MMA fighters, and standing tall not tail between the legs guys trying to get one over on the officials. I’d like to see the US do well, but man I hope our guys don’t act this.
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June 21, 2010 at 10:55 AM #569229
CardiffBaseball
ParticipantI take back everything I said about Pau Gasol being a puss.
I watched more soccer yesterday as I was forced to at BJ’s with the direction I was sitting.
As an ugly-american I am going to speak for all americans. If the world ever wants us to love this sport, these grown men better grow a pair and quit acting like ballerina’s when they get touched. It’s disgusting to see men act this way.
If you’ve never laced up football pads you cannot possibly imagine how violent the contact is. Yet, running backs often take the contact and keep playing through it. Yes that is part of the game, but that is WHAT WE LOVE. We love seeing Bo Jackson blast through Bosworth, not seeing some sissy flopper flail about trying to draw a yellow card. This is a country who appreciates MMA fighters, and standing tall not tail between the legs guys trying to get one over on the officials. I’d like to see the US do well, but man I hope our guys don’t act this.
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June 21, 2010 at 11:15 AM #568254
Ash Housewares
Participant[quote=desmond][quote=afx114]Soccer needs to implement a diving penalty like hockey. I’ve never seen so many arms to the mid-section afflict the face! If anything is affecting the flow of the game it is all of the pathetic divers attempting to draw a penalty.[/quote]
I saw a yellow card today (Chile vs Switz) on a dive (flop), so they must have it. I am not an expert, but I have seen so many missed goals, easy goals according to the announcer, at crucial moments.[/quote]
Diving is already a penalty and will get you a yellowcard if caught. Refs aren’t dumb, they just sometimes are not in the right spot. If they suspect you of diving but can’t see it clearly enough to yellowcard you, they may still make a mental note that you’re not to be trusted and then even legitimate fouls won’t be called. I would like to see coaches get challenges like in the NFL for when an opposing player dives.
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June 21, 2010 at 11:15 AM #568351
Ash Housewares
Participant[quote=desmond][quote=afx114]Soccer needs to implement a diving penalty like hockey. I’ve never seen so many arms to the mid-section afflict the face! If anything is affecting the flow of the game it is all of the pathetic divers attempting to draw a penalty.[/quote]
I saw a yellow card today (Chile vs Switz) on a dive (flop), so they must have it. I am not an expert, but I have seen so many missed goals, easy goals according to the announcer, at crucial moments.[/quote]
Diving is already a penalty and will get you a yellowcard if caught. Refs aren’t dumb, they just sometimes are not in the right spot. If they suspect you of diving but can’t see it clearly enough to yellowcard you, they may still make a mental note that you’re not to be trusted and then even legitimate fouls won’t be called. I would like to see coaches get challenges like in the NFL for when an opposing player dives.
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June 21, 2010 at 11:15 AM #568852
Ash Housewares
Participant[quote=desmond][quote=afx114]Soccer needs to implement a diving penalty like hockey. I’ve never seen so many arms to the mid-section afflict the face! If anything is affecting the flow of the game it is all of the pathetic divers attempting to draw a penalty.[/quote]
I saw a yellow card today (Chile vs Switz) on a dive (flop), so they must have it. I am not an expert, but I have seen so many missed goals, easy goals according to the announcer, at crucial moments.[/quote]
Diving is already a penalty and will get you a yellowcard if caught. Refs aren’t dumb, they just sometimes are not in the right spot. If they suspect you of diving but can’t see it clearly enough to yellowcard you, they may still make a mental note that you’re not to be trusted and then even legitimate fouls won’t be called. I would like to see coaches get challenges like in the NFL for when an opposing player dives.
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June 21, 2010 at 11:15 AM #568959
Ash Housewares
Participant[quote=desmond][quote=afx114]Soccer needs to implement a diving penalty like hockey. I’ve never seen so many arms to the mid-section afflict the face! If anything is affecting the flow of the game it is all of the pathetic divers attempting to draw a penalty.[/quote]
I saw a yellow card today (Chile vs Switz) on a dive (flop), so they must have it. I am not an expert, but I have seen so many missed goals, easy goals according to the announcer, at crucial moments.[/quote]
Diving is already a penalty and will get you a yellowcard if caught. Refs aren’t dumb, they just sometimes are not in the right spot. If they suspect you of diving but can’t see it clearly enough to yellowcard you, they may still make a mental note that you’re not to be trusted and then even legitimate fouls won’t be called. I would like to see coaches get challenges like in the NFL for when an opposing player dives.
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June 21, 2010 at 11:15 AM #569244
Ash Housewares
Participant[quote=desmond][quote=afx114]Soccer needs to implement a diving penalty like hockey. I’ve never seen so many arms to the mid-section afflict the face! If anything is affecting the flow of the game it is all of the pathetic divers attempting to draw a penalty.[/quote]
I saw a yellow card today (Chile vs Switz) on a dive (flop), so they must have it. I am not an expert, but I have seen so many missed goals, easy goals according to the announcer, at crucial moments.[/quote]
Diving is already a penalty and will get you a yellowcard if caught. Refs aren’t dumb, they just sometimes are not in the right spot. If they suspect you of diving but can’t see it clearly enough to yellowcard you, they may still make a mental note that you’re not to be trusted and then even legitimate fouls won’t be called. I would like to see coaches get challenges like in the NFL for when an opposing player dives.
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June 21, 2010 at 9:13 AM #568238
desmond
Participant[quote=afx114]Soccer needs to implement a diving penalty like hockey. I’ve never seen so many arms to the mid-section afflict the face! If anything is affecting the flow of the game it is all of the pathetic divers attempting to draw a penalty.[/quote]
I saw a yellow card today (Chile vs Switz) on a dive (flop), so they must have it. I am not an expert, but I have seen so many missed goals, easy goals according to the announcer, at crucial moments.
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June 21, 2010 at 9:13 AM #568740
desmond
Participant[quote=afx114]Soccer needs to implement a diving penalty like hockey. I’ve never seen so many arms to the mid-section afflict the face! If anything is affecting the flow of the game it is all of the pathetic divers attempting to draw a penalty.[/quote]
I saw a yellow card today (Chile vs Switz) on a dive (flop), so they must have it. I am not an expert, but I have seen so many missed goals, easy goals according to the announcer, at crucial moments.
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June 21, 2010 at 9:13 AM #568845
desmond
Participant[quote=afx114]Soccer needs to implement a diving penalty like hockey. I’ve never seen so many arms to the mid-section afflict the face! If anything is affecting the flow of the game it is all of the pathetic divers attempting to draw a penalty.[/quote]
I saw a yellow card today (Chile vs Switz) on a dive (flop), so they must have it. I am not an expert, but I have seen so many missed goals, easy goals according to the announcer, at crucial moments.
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June 21, 2010 at 9:13 AM #569130
desmond
Participant[quote=afx114]Soccer needs to implement a diving penalty like hockey. I’ve never seen so many arms to the mid-section afflict the face! If anything is affecting the flow of the game it is all of the pathetic divers attempting to draw a penalty.[/quote]
I saw a yellow card today (Chile vs Switz) on a dive (flop), so they must have it. I am not an expert, but I have seen so many missed goals, easy goals according to the announcer, at crucial moments.
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June 21, 2010 at 9:08 AM #568228
afx114
ParticipantSoccer needs to implement a diving penalty like hockey. I’ve never seen so many arms to the mid-section afflict the face! If anything is affecting the flow of the game it is all of the pathetic divers attempting to draw a penalty.
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June 21, 2010 at 9:08 AM #568731
afx114
ParticipantSoccer needs to implement a diving penalty like hockey. I’ve never seen so many arms to the mid-section afflict the face! If anything is affecting the flow of the game it is all of the pathetic divers attempting to draw a penalty.
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June 21, 2010 at 9:08 AM #568835
afx114
ParticipantSoccer needs to implement a diving penalty like hockey. I’ve never seen so many arms to the mid-section afflict the face! If anything is affecting the flow of the game it is all of the pathetic divers attempting to draw a penalty.
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June 21, 2010 at 9:08 AM #569120
afx114
ParticipantSoccer needs to implement a diving penalty like hockey. I’ve never seen so many arms to the mid-section afflict the face! If anything is affecting the flow of the game it is all of the pathetic divers attempting to draw a penalty.
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June 21, 2010 at 12:07 PM #568273
natty
Participant[quote=captcha][quote=qwerty007]I’m not up on the technical aspects of instant replay etc, but if this had been a final, and a team that clearly played a better game had a goal disallowed, losing the game, mightn’t that be cause for concern? Anyway, I’m not going to let it spoil my entertainment of the biggest global sporting event. Good luck Algeria, good luck US![/quote]
It’s part of the game. I believe UEFA did experiments with instant reply, but it affects the flow of the game.
Worse oversights have happened before against countries with more influence with FIFA – like Maradona’s hand of God. It’s a goal if the ref says so (and vice versa).[/quote]
-lying on the field with or without contact is not part of the game either. This practice has steadily evolved/increased as it has been allowed over the past 20-30 years.
-measuring weight of past errors, does not provide backbone for future errors.
-while both US goals disallowed are in serious question, both are within the scope of current game. It’s a non issue. The US team have far more problems.
-The ‘flow’ of game is highly subjective. Running clock provides an illusion of no interruptions.
-instant replay on goal situations only would be an improvement of game -
June 21, 2010 at 12:07 PM #568369
natty
Participant[quote=captcha][quote=qwerty007]I’m not up on the technical aspects of instant replay etc, but if this had been a final, and a team that clearly played a better game had a goal disallowed, losing the game, mightn’t that be cause for concern? Anyway, I’m not going to let it spoil my entertainment of the biggest global sporting event. Good luck Algeria, good luck US![/quote]
It’s part of the game. I believe UEFA did experiments with instant reply, but it affects the flow of the game.
Worse oversights have happened before against countries with more influence with FIFA – like Maradona’s hand of God. It’s a goal if the ref says so (and vice versa).[/quote]
-lying on the field with or without contact is not part of the game either. This practice has steadily evolved/increased as it has been allowed over the past 20-30 years.
-measuring weight of past errors, does not provide backbone for future errors.
-while both US goals disallowed are in serious question, both are within the scope of current game. It’s a non issue. The US team have far more problems.
-The ‘flow’ of game is highly subjective. Running clock provides an illusion of no interruptions.
-instant replay on goal situations only would be an improvement of game -
June 21, 2010 at 12:07 PM #568872
natty
Participant[quote=captcha][quote=qwerty007]I’m not up on the technical aspects of instant replay etc, but if this had been a final, and a team that clearly played a better game had a goal disallowed, losing the game, mightn’t that be cause for concern? Anyway, I’m not going to let it spoil my entertainment of the biggest global sporting event. Good luck Algeria, good luck US![/quote]
It’s part of the game. I believe UEFA did experiments with instant reply, but it affects the flow of the game.
Worse oversights have happened before against countries with more influence with FIFA – like Maradona’s hand of God. It’s a goal if the ref says so (and vice versa).[/quote]
-lying on the field with or without contact is not part of the game either. This practice has steadily evolved/increased as it has been allowed over the past 20-30 years.
-measuring weight of past errors, does not provide backbone for future errors.
-while both US goals disallowed are in serious question, both are within the scope of current game. It’s a non issue. The US team have far more problems.
-The ‘flow’ of game is highly subjective. Running clock provides an illusion of no interruptions.
-instant replay on goal situations only would be an improvement of game -
June 21, 2010 at 12:07 PM #568979
natty
Participant[quote=captcha][quote=qwerty007]I’m not up on the technical aspects of instant replay etc, but if this had been a final, and a team that clearly played a better game had a goal disallowed, losing the game, mightn’t that be cause for concern? Anyway, I’m not going to let it spoil my entertainment of the biggest global sporting event. Good luck Algeria, good luck US![/quote]
It’s part of the game. I believe UEFA did experiments with instant reply, but it affects the flow of the game.
Worse oversights have happened before against countries with more influence with FIFA – like Maradona’s hand of God. It’s a goal if the ref says so (and vice versa).[/quote]
-lying on the field with or without contact is not part of the game either. This practice has steadily evolved/increased as it has been allowed over the past 20-30 years.
-measuring weight of past errors, does not provide backbone for future errors.
-while both US goals disallowed are in serious question, both are within the scope of current game. It’s a non issue. The US team have far more problems.
-The ‘flow’ of game is highly subjective. Running clock provides an illusion of no interruptions.
-instant replay on goal situations only would be an improvement of game -
June 21, 2010 at 12:07 PM #569264
natty
Participant[quote=captcha][quote=qwerty007]I’m not up on the technical aspects of instant replay etc, but if this had been a final, and a team that clearly played a better game had a goal disallowed, losing the game, mightn’t that be cause for concern? Anyway, I’m not going to let it spoil my entertainment of the biggest global sporting event. Good luck Algeria, good luck US![/quote]
It’s part of the game. I believe UEFA did experiments with instant reply, but it affects the flow of the game.
Worse oversights have happened before against countries with more influence with FIFA – like Maradona’s hand of God. It’s a goal if the ref says so (and vice versa).[/quote]
-lying on the field with or without contact is not part of the game either. This practice has steadily evolved/increased as it has been allowed over the past 20-30 years.
-measuring weight of past errors, does not provide backbone for future errors.
-while both US goals disallowed are in serious question, both are within the scope of current game. It’s a non issue. The US team have far more problems.
-The ‘flow’ of game is highly subjective. Running clock provides an illusion of no interruptions.
-instant replay on goal situations only would be an improvement of game -
June 21, 2010 at 8:06 AM #568183
all
Participant[quote=qwerty007]I’m not up on the technical aspects of instant replay etc, but if this had been a final, and a team that clearly played a better game had a goal disallowed, losing the game, mightn’t that be cause for concern? Anyway, I’m not going to let it spoil my entertainment of the biggest global sporting event. Good luck Algeria, good luck US![/quote]
It’s part of the game. I believe UEFA did experiments with instant reply, but it affects the flow of the game.
Worse oversights have happened before against countries with more influence with FIFA – like Maradona’s hand of God. It’s a goal if the ref says so (and vice versa).
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June 21, 2010 at 8:06 AM #568686
all
Participant[quote=qwerty007]I’m not up on the technical aspects of instant replay etc, but if this had been a final, and a team that clearly played a better game had a goal disallowed, losing the game, mightn’t that be cause for concern? Anyway, I’m not going to let it spoil my entertainment of the biggest global sporting event. Good luck Algeria, good luck US![/quote]
It’s part of the game. I believe UEFA did experiments with instant reply, but it affects the flow of the game.
Worse oversights have happened before against countries with more influence with FIFA – like Maradona’s hand of God. It’s a goal if the ref says so (and vice versa).
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June 21, 2010 at 8:06 AM #568790
all
Participant[quote=qwerty007]I’m not up on the technical aspects of instant replay etc, but if this had been a final, and a team that clearly played a better game had a goal disallowed, losing the game, mightn’t that be cause for concern? Anyway, I’m not going to let it spoil my entertainment of the biggest global sporting event. Good luck Algeria, good luck US![/quote]
It’s part of the game. I believe UEFA did experiments with instant reply, but it affects the flow of the game.
Worse oversights have happened before against countries with more influence with FIFA – like Maradona’s hand of God. It’s a goal if the ref says so (and vice versa).
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June 21, 2010 at 8:06 AM #569076
all
Participant[quote=qwerty007]I’m not up on the technical aspects of instant replay etc, but if this had been a final, and a team that clearly played a better game had a goal disallowed, losing the game, mightn’t that be cause for concern? Anyway, I’m not going to let it spoil my entertainment of the biggest global sporting event. Good luck Algeria, good luck US![/quote]
It’s part of the game. I believe UEFA did experiments with instant reply, but it affects the flow of the game.
Worse oversights have happened before against countries with more influence with FIFA – like Maradona’s hand of God. It’s a goal if the ref says so (and vice versa).
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June 20, 2010 at 11:29 AM #567803
34f3f3f
ParticipantI’m not up on the technical aspects of instant replay etc, but if this had been a final, and a team that clearly played a better game had a goal disallowed, losing the game, mightn’t that be cause for concern? Anyway, I’m not going to let it spoil my entertainment of the biggest global sporting event. Good luck Algeria, good luck US!
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June 20, 2010 at 11:29 AM #568307
34f3f3f
ParticipantI’m not up on the technical aspects of instant replay etc, but if this had been a final, and a team that clearly played a better game had a goal disallowed, losing the game, mightn’t that be cause for concern? Anyway, I’m not going to let it spoil my entertainment of the biggest global sporting event. Good luck Algeria, good luck US!
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June 20, 2010 at 11:29 AM #568413
34f3f3f
ParticipantI’m not up on the technical aspects of instant replay etc, but if this had been a final, and a team that clearly played a better game had a goal disallowed, losing the game, mightn’t that be cause for concern? Anyway, I’m not going to let it spoil my entertainment of the biggest global sporting event. Good luck Algeria, good luck US!
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June 20, 2010 at 11:29 AM #568695
34f3f3f
ParticipantI’m not up on the technical aspects of instant replay etc, but if this had been a final, and a team that clearly played a better game had a goal disallowed, losing the game, mightn’t that be cause for concern? Anyway, I’m not going to let it spoil my entertainment of the biggest global sporting event. Good luck Algeria, good luck US!
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June 20, 2010 at 9:24 AM #567736
Anonymous
Guest[quote=kcal09]Unfortunately, there is no instant review and the refs decision is final. The good news is that the US team will face Algeria which is probably the weakest team in the group.[/quote]
How can you do instant replay on a subjective call like a foul? Typical non-thinking American response thinking that technology can fix everything when it can’t.
I’d much rather see foreign practices influence America as a result of this World Cup than vice versa. It just seems like the rest of the world is way ahead of America in common sense. Here in the U.S., we’ve had disaster after disaster (financial crisis, oil environmental disaster, GMO-food contaminating organics, hydraulic fracturing, etc) because we’ve put our common sense aside.
I love in this day and age of nuclear clocks that the game clock in soccer runs at random times and the end of the game is approximated by the ref to the nearest minute or so. I love that when a French commentator was asked on American television about the dispute between a coach and a player the commentator said (in a heavy French accent) ‘the coach told the player to go fuck himself and that he was a son-of-a-bitch’. I guess in France you can cuss on TV without worrying about right-wing Christian nutjobs.
The U.S. could do worse than looking to other countries and their practices. I hope soccer doesn’t lose its soul by adopting ridiculous American practices like instant replay on subjective calls.
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June 20, 2010 at 9:24 AM #568236
Anonymous
Guest[quote=kcal09]Unfortunately, there is no instant review and the refs decision is final. The good news is that the US team will face Algeria which is probably the weakest team in the group.[/quote]
How can you do instant replay on a subjective call like a foul? Typical non-thinking American response thinking that technology can fix everything when it can’t.
I’d much rather see foreign practices influence America as a result of this World Cup than vice versa. It just seems like the rest of the world is way ahead of America in common sense. Here in the U.S., we’ve had disaster after disaster (financial crisis, oil environmental disaster, GMO-food contaminating organics, hydraulic fracturing, etc) because we’ve put our common sense aside.
I love in this day and age of nuclear clocks that the game clock in soccer runs at random times and the end of the game is approximated by the ref to the nearest minute or so. I love that when a French commentator was asked on American television about the dispute between a coach and a player the commentator said (in a heavy French accent) ‘the coach told the player to go fuck himself and that he was a son-of-a-bitch’. I guess in France you can cuss on TV without worrying about right-wing Christian nutjobs.
The U.S. could do worse than looking to other countries and their practices. I hope soccer doesn’t lose its soul by adopting ridiculous American practices like instant replay on subjective calls.
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June 20, 2010 at 9:24 AM #568344
Anonymous
Guest[quote=kcal09]Unfortunately, there is no instant review and the refs decision is final. The good news is that the US team will face Algeria which is probably the weakest team in the group.[/quote]
How can you do instant replay on a subjective call like a foul? Typical non-thinking American response thinking that technology can fix everything when it can’t.
I’d much rather see foreign practices influence America as a result of this World Cup than vice versa. It just seems like the rest of the world is way ahead of America in common sense. Here in the U.S., we’ve had disaster after disaster (financial crisis, oil environmental disaster, GMO-food contaminating organics, hydraulic fracturing, etc) because we’ve put our common sense aside.
I love in this day and age of nuclear clocks that the game clock in soccer runs at random times and the end of the game is approximated by the ref to the nearest minute or so. I love that when a French commentator was asked on American television about the dispute between a coach and a player the commentator said (in a heavy French accent) ‘the coach told the player to go fuck himself and that he was a son-of-a-bitch’. I guess in France you can cuss on TV without worrying about right-wing Christian nutjobs.
The U.S. could do worse than looking to other countries and their practices. I hope soccer doesn’t lose its soul by adopting ridiculous American practices like instant replay on subjective calls.
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June 20, 2010 at 9:24 AM #568624
Anonymous
Guest[quote=kcal09]Unfortunately, there is no instant review and the refs decision is final. The good news is that the US team will face Algeria which is probably the weakest team in the group.[/quote]
How can you do instant replay on a subjective call like a foul? Typical non-thinking American response thinking that technology can fix everything when it can’t.
I’d much rather see foreign practices influence America as a result of this World Cup than vice versa. It just seems like the rest of the world is way ahead of America in common sense. Here in the U.S., we’ve had disaster after disaster (financial crisis, oil environmental disaster, GMO-food contaminating organics, hydraulic fracturing, etc) because we’ve put our common sense aside.
I love in this day and age of nuclear clocks that the game clock in soccer runs at random times and the end of the game is approximated by the ref to the nearest minute or so. I love that when a French commentator was asked on American television about the dispute between a coach and a player the commentator said (in a heavy French accent) ‘the coach told the player to go fuck himself and that he was a son-of-a-bitch’. I guess in France you can cuss on TV without worrying about right-wing Christian nutjobs.
The U.S. could do worse than looking to other countries and their practices. I hope soccer doesn’t lose its soul by adopting ridiculous American practices like instant replay on subjective calls.
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June 19, 2010 at 5:33 PM #567505
kcal09
ParticipantUnfortunately, there is no instant review and the refs decision is final. The good news is that the US team will face Algeria which is probably the weakest team in the group.
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June 19, 2010 at 5:33 PM #568003
kcal09
ParticipantUnfortunately, there is no instant review and the refs decision is final. The good news is that the US team will face Algeria which is probably the weakest team in the group.
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June 19, 2010 at 5:33 PM #568111
kcal09
ParticipantUnfortunately, there is no instant review and the refs decision is final. The good news is that the US team will face Algeria which is probably the weakest team in the group.
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June 19, 2010 at 5:33 PM #568391
kcal09
ParticipantUnfortunately, there is no instant review and the refs decision is final. The good news is that the US team will face Algeria which is probably the weakest team in the group.
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June 21, 2010 at 9:43 PM #568748
weberlin
ParticipantPerhaps poor reffing is built into professional soccer. You know, to make up for that fact that the sport is so God awfully painfully boring to watch.
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June 21, 2010 at 9:52 PM #568774
sunny88
Participant[quote=weberlin]Perhaps poor reffing is built into professional soccer. You know, to make up for that fact that the sport is so God awfully painfully boring to watch.[/quote]
I respectfully disagree. Soccer is much more interesting to watch than baseball and it’s not just about scoring but also how to build an attack or defend.
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June 21, 2010 at 9:52 PM #568871
sunny88
Participant[quote=weberlin]Perhaps poor reffing is built into professional soccer. You know, to make up for that fact that the sport is so God awfully painfully boring to watch.[/quote]
I respectfully disagree. Soccer is much more interesting to watch than baseball and it’s not just about scoring but also how to build an attack or defend.
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June 21, 2010 at 9:52 PM #569380
sunny88
Participant[quote=weberlin]Perhaps poor reffing is built into professional soccer. You know, to make up for that fact that the sport is so God awfully painfully boring to watch.[/quote]
I respectfully disagree. Soccer is much more interesting to watch than baseball and it’s not just about scoring but also how to build an attack or defend.
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June 21, 2010 at 9:52 PM #569485
sunny88
Participant[quote=weberlin]Perhaps poor reffing is built into professional soccer. You know, to make up for that fact that the sport is so God awfully painfully boring to watch.[/quote]
I respectfully disagree. Soccer is much more interesting to watch than baseball and it’s not just about scoring but also how to build an attack or defend.
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June 21, 2010 at 9:52 PM #569769
sunny88
Participant[quote=weberlin]Perhaps poor reffing is built into professional soccer. You know, to make up for that fact that the sport is so God awfully painfully boring to watch.[/quote]
I respectfully disagree. Soccer is much more interesting to watch than baseball and it’s not just about scoring but also how to build an attack or defend.
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June 21, 2010 at 10:00 PM #568789
Anonymous
Guest[quote=weberlin]Perhaps poor reffing is built into professional soccer. You know, to make up for that fact that the sport is so God awfully painfully boring to watch.[/quote]
You’re just not sophisticated enough to appreciate the nuances. You should probably stick to American pigskin football with it’s 3 yards and a cloud of dust or American basketball where hooligan fans destroy their city after a victory.
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June 22, 2010 at 1:14 AM #568913
CardiffBaseball
ParticipantSophisticated? Hilarious.
Look I am doing my part. My foreign born wife was just impressed that I understood what it took for my Americanos to advance (win and in, or various other scenarios). My guess is you wouldn’t understand the implications of the West Coast offense vs. standard drop back.
No matter I really freakin’ hate comparing sports. Either a sport stands on its own or it doesn’t. There are very kids out there who actually learn how to hit a baseball who think it’s boring.
I am fine with World Cup right now it’s a nice diversion since the NBA (greatest overall athletes on the planet in my opinion) is over, baseball is in early stages and football camps are just getting underway. Perfect time for some world cup action. College baseball and that damn “ting” is not that appealing other than deciding whether I should push the kids a little harder to play post-high school.
I guess we are going to have to say screwing with the refs has become an art form. Maybe FIFA can consider adding another referee to the field?
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June 22, 2010 at 5:14 AM #568928
Anonymous
GuestSome pictures of famous American ‘athletes’:
[img_assist|nid=13497|title=Refrigerator Perry – famous American ‘football’ player|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=88|height=100]
[img_assist|nid=13496|title=John Kruk – famous American baseball player|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=200|height=150]
[img_assist|nid=13498|title=John Daly – famous American golfer|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=306|height=449]
Not American, but one of the best ‘athletes’ in American basketball:
[img_assist|nid=13499|title=Pau Gasol – wtf?|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=70|height=100]
Now, compare the above specimens, with a famous professional soccer player:
[img_assist|nid=13500|title=Cristiano Ronaldo – soccer player|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=68|height=100]
There can be no disagreement amongst reasonable peoples. Football (real football) has the best athletes.
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June 22, 2010 at 5:14 AM #569025
Anonymous
GuestSome pictures of famous American ‘athletes’:
[img_assist|nid=13497|title=Refrigerator Perry – famous American ‘football’ player|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=88|height=100]
[img_assist|nid=13496|title=John Kruk – famous American baseball player|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=200|height=150]
[img_assist|nid=13498|title=John Daly – famous American golfer|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=306|height=449]
Not American, but one of the best ‘athletes’ in American basketball:
[img_assist|nid=13499|title=Pau Gasol – wtf?|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=70|height=100]
Now, compare the above specimens, with a famous professional soccer player:
[img_assist|nid=13500|title=Cristiano Ronaldo – soccer player|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=68|height=100]
There can be no disagreement amongst reasonable peoples. Football (real football) has the best athletes.
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June 22, 2010 at 5:14 AM #569532
Anonymous
GuestSome pictures of famous American ‘athletes’:
[img_assist|nid=13497|title=Refrigerator Perry – famous American ‘football’ player|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=88|height=100]
[img_assist|nid=13496|title=John Kruk – famous American baseball player|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=200|height=150]
[img_assist|nid=13498|title=John Daly – famous American golfer|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=306|height=449]
Not American, but one of the best ‘athletes’ in American basketball:
[img_assist|nid=13499|title=Pau Gasol – wtf?|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=70|height=100]
Now, compare the above specimens, with a famous professional soccer player:
[img_assist|nid=13500|title=Cristiano Ronaldo – soccer player|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=68|height=100]
There can be no disagreement amongst reasonable peoples. Football (real football) has the best athletes.
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June 22, 2010 at 5:14 AM #569638
Anonymous
GuestSome pictures of famous American ‘athletes’:
[img_assist|nid=13497|title=Refrigerator Perry – famous American ‘football’ player|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=88|height=100]
[img_assist|nid=13496|title=John Kruk – famous American baseball player|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=200|height=150]
[img_assist|nid=13498|title=John Daly – famous American golfer|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=306|height=449]
Not American, but one of the best ‘athletes’ in American basketball:
[img_assist|nid=13499|title=Pau Gasol – wtf?|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=70|height=100]
Now, compare the above specimens, with a famous professional soccer player:
[img_assist|nid=13500|title=Cristiano Ronaldo – soccer player|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=68|height=100]
There can be no disagreement amongst reasonable peoples. Football (real football) has the best athletes.
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June 22, 2010 at 5:14 AM #569920
Anonymous
GuestSome pictures of famous American ‘athletes’:
[img_assist|nid=13497|title=Refrigerator Perry – famous American ‘football’ player|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=88|height=100]
[img_assist|nid=13496|title=John Kruk – famous American baseball player|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=200|height=150]
[img_assist|nid=13498|title=John Daly – famous American golfer|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=306|height=449]
Not American, but one of the best ‘athletes’ in American basketball:
[img_assist|nid=13499|title=Pau Gasol – wtf?|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=70|height=100]
Now, compare the above specimens, with a famous professional soccer player:
[img_assist|nid=13500|title=Cristiano Ronaldo – soccer player|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=68|height=100]
There can be no disagreement amongst reasonable peoples. Football (real football) has the best athletes.
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June 22, 2010 at 7:14 AM #568943
Allan from Fallbrook
Participant[quote=CardiffBaseball]Sophisticated? Hilarious.
Look I am doing my part. My foreign born wife was just impressed that I understood what it took for my Americanos to advance (win and in, or various other scenarios). My guess is you wouldn’t understand the implications of the West Coast offense vs. standard drop back.
No matter I really freakin’ hate comparing sports. Either a sport stands on its own or it doesn’t. There are very kids out there who actually learn how to hit a baseball who think it’s boring.
I am fine with World Cup right now it’s a nice diversion since the NBA (greatest overall athletes on the planet in my opinion) is over, baseball is in early stages and football camps are just getting underway. Perfect time for some world cup action. College baseball and that damn “ting” is not that appealing other than deciding whether I should push the kids a little harder to play post-high school.
I guess we are going to have to say screwing with the refs has become an art form. Maybe FIFA can consider adding another referee to the field?[/quote]
Cardiff: Dude. You’re arguing with a troll, and an ill-informed one at that. This particular troll posts inflammatory little missives designed to goad you into an emotional response and then vilifies you when you attempt to respond intelligently.
Football (or baseball or basketball) versus soccer is a non-issue. Everyone enjoys watching their own favorite sports and, let’s face it, for an athlete to perform at that level, regardless of sport, demands tremendous dedication and physicality (watching even a few minutes of the NFL combine would suffice to make this point). As far as the particular fanaticism that comes with American football, well, like you said, if you’ve ever played and/or coached, you’d understand it viscerally.
His mention of the word “hooligan” is especially funny, though, given that the term “soccer hooligan” is instantly recognizable to fans the world over: http://www.sirc.org/publik/football_violence.html (excellent paper on soccer hooliganism from Social Issues Research Center) and from Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_hooliganism
As far as soccer’s “superiority”, let’s not forget the virulent racism: http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,1798795,00.html, or the cheerful little neo-Nazis::http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,1798795,00.html
And, of course, there’s FIFA, one of the most scandal plagued organizations in modern sports: http://www.playthegame.org/knowledge-bank/articles/ripping-up-soccer-the-story-behind-the-fifa-scandals-1017.html
So, yeah, soccer is clearly superior to ALL American sports, and one clearly needs to be a sophisticated bon vivant to appreciate it. You know, as opposed to a stupid, racist, corrupt and fat American.
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June 22, 2010 at 8:17 AM #568973
Anonymous
GuestGeneral Advisory: This thread involves good-natured ‘ribbing’ between fans of different ‘sports’. (That is, if games like American ‘football’ where every 3 seconds of ‘action’ requires a 60-second break and games like baseball where players’ heads magically grow to three times their previous size in mid-adulthood can be called ‘sports’).
If your panties are susceptible to bunching and you are prone to throwing hissy fits, maybe this thread isn’t for you.
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June 22, 2010 at 8:49 AM #569013
CDMA ENG
ParticipantThe ref for the american game was making consistantly bad calls in both directions. Upon review I think that he knew he made a mistake upon allowing the free kick. The free kick should have never happened and when the US made a goal from it and he disallowed the goal. That being said YOU CAN’T NOT DO THIS. You are not allow to correct a previous bad call by committing another bad call (e.g. disallowing the goal). FIFA laws (and yes they are called laws instead of rules) does not allow for this!
So even though the free kick should have never been awarded it does not have bearing on the fact we were robbed of a goal as well.
CE
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June 22, 2010 at 8:49 AM #569109
CDMA ENG
ParticipantThe ref for the american game was making consistantly bad calls in both directions. Upon review I think that he knew he made a mistake upon allowing the free kick. The free kick should have never happened and when the US made a goal from it and he disallowed the goal. That being said YOU CAN’T NOT DO THIS. You are not allow to correct a previous bad call by committing another bad call (e.g. disallowing the goal). FIFA laws (and yes they are called laws instead of rules) does not allow for this!
So even though the free kick should have never been awarded it does not have bearing on the fact we were robbed of a goal as well.
CE
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June 22, 2010 at 8:49 AM #569616
CDMA ENG
ParticipantThe ref for the american game was making consistantly bad calls in both directions. Upon review I think that he knew he made a mistake upon allowing the free kick. The free kick should have never happened and when the US made a goal from it and he disallowed the goal. That being said YOU CAN’T NOT DO THIS. You are not allow to correct a previous bad call by committing another bad call (e.g. disallowing the goal). FIFA laws (and yes they are called laws instead of rules) does not allow for this!
So even though the free kick should have never been awarded it does not have bearing on the fact we were robbed of a goal as well.
CE
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June 22, 2010 at 8:49 AM #569722
CDMA ENG
ParticipantThe ref for the american game was making consistantly bad calls in both directions. Upon review I think that he knew he made a mistake upon allowing the free kick. The free kick should have never happened and when the US made a goal from it and he disallowed the goal. That being said YOU CAN’T NOT DO THIS. You are not allow to correct a previous bad call by committing another bad call (e.g. disallowing the goal). FIFA laws (and yes they are called laws instead of rules) does not allow for this!
So even though the free kick should have never been awarded it does not have bearing on the fact we were robbed of a goal as well.
CE
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June 22, 2010 at 8:49 AM #570003
CDMA ENG
ParticipantThe ref for the american game was making consistantly bad calls in both directions. Upon review I think that he knew he made a mistake upon allowing the free kick. The free kick should have never happened and when the US made a goal from it and he disallowed the goal. That being said YOU CAN’T NOT DO THIS. You are not allow to correct a previous bad call by committing another bad call (e.g. disallowing the goal). FIFA laws (and yes they are called laws instead of rules) does not allow for this!
So even though the free kick should have never been awarded it does not have bearing on the fact we were robbed of a goal as well.
CE
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June 22, 2010 at 11:05 AM #569126
34f3f3f
Participant[quote=IForget]General Advisory: This thread involves good-natured ‘ribbing’ between fans of different ‘sports’.
If your panties are susceptible to bunching and you are prone to throwing hissy fits, maybe this thread isn’t for you.[/quote]
Hahaha! You’re not British by any chance?
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June 22, 2010 at 2:20 PM #569196
CardiffBaseball
ParticipantI know what bone bruises can be like because I USED to (not anymore) pitch to boys without L-Screen protection. In general I stacked two buckets because I can always project myself frow waist up but the bat speed off of juice up composite bats was too much to get to the low ball. One time my foot was dangling and didn’t make it back, and it hit me so hard I had a second kneecap for about two hours. Never saw such swelling and no break, just a deep bone bruise that took a few weeks to heel. In fact about 2-3 months later I had a vein burst down in my foot which was a result of that impact. So I am sure this stuff can hurt….
I just mean the fake stuff, and guys acting as if they are hurt. I really don’t like that.
By the way iforget let’s not cherry pick your great us athletes. Do you think it’s any coincidence that your typical HS 100 meter stud is also the running back on the football team? Have you checked the vertical leap on these guys which is a indicator of the power contained within their posterior chain? I didn’t see any centerfielders in your list. Do you see many guys on the US team you’d thrown in for Rickey Henderson?
And let’s not forget the way Barkley embarrassed the rest of the world despite being a few pounds over ideal weight. Strange that none of the prissy Euro basketball players could handle him despite the fact that they “looked like athletes”.
Don’t forget hand-to-eye coordination, depth perception, reaction time, etc. The US team is comprised of our best soccer players, but not really our best athletes. Regarding the weight my feeling is there is a certain amount of weight in anaerobic (i.e. power/strength) sports that seems to be ideal for each guy and for that player it’s an individual thing. Certain positions you don’t want to lean out excessively.
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June 22, 2010 at 2:48 PM #569220
Allan from Fallbrook
Participant[quote=CardiffBaseball]
Don’t forget hand-to-eye coordination, depth perception, reaction time, etc. The US team is comprised of our best soccer players, but not really our best athletes. Regarding the weight my feeling is there is a certain amount of weight in anaerobic (i.e. power/strength) sports that seems to be ideal for each guy and for that player it’s an individual thing. Certain positions you don’t want to lean out excessively.[/quote]
Cardiff: Or watching a 300+lb Texas Tech O lineman pulling and getting out in front of a 170lb tailback on a sweep. Given how prevalent the Spread and Open offenses are now in HS and college, you see some huge AND quick/fast O linemen. The old notion that these kids are just sides of beef with hands has long been dispelled, except for those who persist in their prejudices. Forgetting Euro versus American athletes for a second, I’m more amused by some of the guys who were clearly picked on by jocks in HS taking pot shots at football players now without any idea what they’re talking about.
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June 22, 2010 at 3:31 PM #569248
afx114
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]I’m more amused by some of the guys who were clearly picked on by jocks in HS taking pot shots at football players now without any idea what they’re talking about.[/quote]
Funny, all the jocks who used to pick on me in HS are now bagging my groceries at Ralph’s.
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June 22, 2010 at 3:37 PM #569258
Allan from Fallbrook
Participant[quote=afx114][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]I’m more amused by some of the guys who were clearly picked on by jocks in HS taking pot shots at football players now without any idea what they’re talking about.[/quote]
Funny, all the jocks who used to pick on me in HS are now bagging my groceries at Ralph’s.[/quote]
Afx: Public high school, I take it? Its a little different for private/parochial/Catholic school. We had seven academic All-Americans on our defensive unit alone.
Like I said, I get the whole “dumb jock” thing, but that’s a sweeping generalization and stereotype, and it doesn’t hold true for everyone.
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June 22, 2010 at 3:37 PM #569354
Allan from Fallbrook
Participant[quote=afx114][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]I’m more amused by some of the guys who were clearly picked on by jocks in HS taking pot shots at football players now without any idea what they’re talking about.[/quote]
Funny, all the jocks who used to pick on me in HS are now bagging my groceries at Ralph’s.[/quote]
Afx: Public high school, I take it? Its a little different for private/parochial/Catholic school. We had seven academic All-Americans on our defensive unit alone.
Like I said, I get the whole “dumb jock” thing, but that’s a sweeping generalization and stereotype, and it doesn’t hold true for everyone.
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June 22, 2010 at 3:37 PM #569859
Allan from Fallbrook
Participant[quote=afx114][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]I’m more amused by some of the guys who were clearly picked on by jocks in HS taking pot shots at football players now without any idea what they’re talking about.[/quote]
Funny, all the jocks who used to pick on me in HS are now bagging my groceries at Ralph’s.[/quote]
Afx: Public high school, I take it? Its a little different for private/parochial/Catholic school. We had seven academic All-Americans on our defensive unit alone.
Like I said, I get the whole “dumb jock” thing, but that’s a sweeping generalization and stereotype, and it doesn’t hold true for everyone.
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June 22, 2010 at 3:37 PM #569962
Allan from Fallbrook
Participant[quote=afx114][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]I’m more amused by some of the guys who were clearly picked on by jocks in HS taking pot shots at football players now without any idea what they’re talking about.[/quote]
Funny, all the jocks who used to pick on me in HS are now bagging my groceries at Ralph’s.[/quote]
Afx: Public high school, I take it? Its a little different for private/parochial/Catholic school. We had seven academic All-Americans on our defensive unit alone.
Like I said, I get the whole “dumb jock” thing, but that’s a sweeping generalization and stereotype, and it doesn’t hold true for everyone.
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June 22, 2010 at 3:37 PM #570247
Allan from Fallbrook
Participant[quote=afx114][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]I’m more amused by some of the guys who were clearly picked on by jocks in HS taking pot shots at football players now without any idea what they’re talking about.[/quote]
Funny, all the jocks who used to pick on me in HS are now bagging my groceries at Ralph’s.[/quote]
Afx: Public high school, I take it? Its a little different for private/parochial/Catholic school. We had seven academic All-Americans on our defensive unit alone.
Like I said, I get the whole “dumb jock” thing, but that’s a sweeping generalization and stereotype, and it doesn’t hold true for everyone.
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June 22, 2010 at 10:30 PM #569473
Coronita
Participant[quote=afx114][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]I’m more amused by some of the guys who were clearly picked on by jocks in HS taking pot shots at football players now without any idea what they’re talking about.[/quote]
Funny, all the jocks who used to pick on me in HS are now bagging my groceries at Ralph’s.[/quote]
I wish I went to your high school…
A lot of the jocks that use to pick on me ended up being doctors or worked for Goldman with their trophy wives… There’s something to be said about being well rounded. I wish I had learned that in my more youthful days…
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June 22, 2010 at 10:30 PM #569568
Coronita
Participant[quote=afx114][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]I’m more amused by some of the guys who were clearly picked on by jocks in HS taking pot shots at football players now without any idea what they’re talking about.[/quote]
Funny, all the jocks who used to pick on me in HS are now bagging my groceries at Ralph’s.[/quote]
I wish I went to your high school…
A lot of the jocks that use to pick on me ended up being doctors or worked for Goldman with their trophy wives… There’s something to be said about being well rounded. I wish I had learned that in my more youthful days…
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June 22, 2010 at 10:30 PM #570075
Coronita
Participant[quote=afx114][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]I’m more amused by some of the guys who were clearly picked on by jocks in HS taking pot shots at football players now without any idea what they’re talking about.[/quote]
Funny, all the jocks who used to pick on me in HS are now bagging my groceries at Ralph’s.[/quote]
I wish I went to your high school…
A lot of the jocks that use to pick on me ended up being doctors or worked for Goldman with their trophy wives… There’s something to be said about being well rounded. I wish I had learned that in my more youthful days…
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June 22, 2010 at 10:30 PM #570179
Coronita
Participant[quote=afx114][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]I’m more amused by some of the guys who were clearly picked on by jocks in HS taking pot shots at football players now without any idea what they’re talking about.[/quote]
Funny, all the jocks who used to pick on me in HS are now bagging my groceries at Ralph’s.[/quote]
I wish I went to your high school…
A lot of the jocks that use to pick on me ended up being doctors or worked for Goldman with their trophy wives… There’s something to be said about being well rounded. I wish I had learned that in my more youthful days…
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June 22, 2010 at 10:30 PM #570463
Coronita
Participant[quote=afx114][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]I’m more amused by some of the guys who were clearly picked on by jocks in HS taking pot shots at football players now without any idea what they’re talking about.[/quote]
Funny, all the jocks who used to pick on me in HS are now bagging my groceries at Ralph’s.[/quote]
I wish I went to your high school…
A lot of the jocks that use to pick on me ended up being doctors or worked for Goldman with their trophy wives… There’s something to be said about being well rounded. I wish I had learned that in my more youthful days…
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June 22, 2010 at 3:31 PM #569344
afx114
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]I’m more amused by some of the guys who were clearly picked on by jocks in HS taking pot shots at football players now without any idea what they’re talking about.[/quote]
Funny, all the jocks who used to pick on me in HS are now bagging my groceries at Ralph’s.
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June 22, 2010 at 3:31 PM #569850
afx114
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]I’m more amused by some of the guys who were clearly picked on by jocks in HS taking pot shots at football players now without any idea what they’re talking about.[/quote]
Funny, all the jocks who used to pick on me in HS are now bagging my groceries at Ralph’s.
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June 22, 2010 at 3:31 PM #569951
afx114
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]I’m more amused by some of the guys who were clearly picked on by jocks in HS taking pot shots at football players now without any idea what they’re talking about.[/quote]
Funny, all the jocks who used to pick on me in HS are now bagging my groceries at Ralph’s.
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June 22, 2010 at 3:31 PM #570237
afx114
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]I’m more amused by some of the guys who were clearly picked on by jocks in HS taking pot shots at football players now without any idea what they’re talking about.[/quote]
Funny, all the jocks who used to pick on me in HS are now bagging my groceries at Ralph’s.
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June 22, 2010 at 3:44 PM #569263
NotCranky
ParticipantDid the “jocks” pick on people where you come from, Allan? Did only football players do it or soccer players too, baseball players? Where I came from the “jocks” didn’t pick on anyone. The gangbangers were in charge of violence. To tell you the truth I don’t even remember the “Jocks”. I remember a few guys on teams that I had in classes or someone who lived in my neighborhood who was great but ended up on drugs.
I still think football is dominated by a combination of speed and weight and protection from collisions because of it. The big guys might be a little better on those fronts but I don’t see where they are demonstrating much talent that is obsrervable in other sports. It’s still run and get that dude or get in that dudes way.Maybe get a hand up and try to block a punt. I agree that the smaller position players show a lot of transferable skills/abilities and this is where your crossover athletes come from.
I also agree that the constant standing around, followed usually by a dog-pile aspect of football is annoying.
I can’t stand the hype around the NFL. Hate the game not the player.
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June 22, 2010 at 3:44 PM #569359
NotCranky
ParticipantDid the “jocks” pick on people where you come from, Allan? Did only football players do it or soccer players too, baseball players? Where I came from the “jocks” didn’t pick on anyone. The gangbangers were in charge of violence. To tell you the truth I don’t even remember the “Jocks”. I remember a few guys on teams that I had in classes or someone who lived in my neighborhood who was great but ended up on drugs.
I still think football is dominated by a combination of speed and weight and protection from collisions because of it. The big guys might be a little better on those fronts but I don’t see where they are demonstrating much talent that is obsrervable in other sports. It’s still run and get that dude or get in that dudes way.Maybe get a hand up and try to block a punt. I agree that the smaller position players show a lot of transferable skills/abilities and this is where your crossover athletes come from.
I also agree that the constant standing around, followed usually by a dog-pile aspect of football is annoying.
I can’t stand the hype around the NFL. Hate the game not the player.
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June 22, 2010 at 3:44 PM #569864
NotCranky
ParticipantDid the “jocks” pick on people where you come from, Allan? Did only football players do it or soccer players too, baseball players? Where I came from the “jocks” didn’t pick on anyone. The gangbangers were in charge of violence. To tell you the truth I don’t even remember the “Jocks”. I remember a few guys on teams that I had in classes or someone who lived in my neighborhood who was great but ended up on drugs.
I still think football is dominated by a combination of speed and weight and protection from collisions because of it. The big guys might be a little better on those fronts but I don’t see where they are demonstrating much talent that is obsrervable in other sports. It’s still run and get that dude or get in that dudes way.Maybe get a hand up and try to block a punt. I agree that the smaller position players show a lot of transferable skills/abilities and this is where your crossover athletes come from.
I also agree that the constant standing around, followed usually by a dog-pile aspect of football is annoying.
I can’t stand the hype around the NFL. Hate the game not the player.
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June 22, 2010 at 3:44 PM #569967
NotCranky
ParticipantDid the “jocks” pick on people where you come from, Allan? Did only football players do it or soccer players too, baseball players? Where I came from the “jocks” didn’t pick on anyone. The gangbangers were in charge of violence. To tell you the truth I don’t even remember the “Jocks”. I remember a few guys on teams that I had in classes or someone who lived in my neighborhood who was great but ended up on drugs.
I still think football is dominated by a combination of speed and weight and protection from collisions because of it. The big guys might be a little better on those fronts but I don’t see where they are demonstrating much talent that is obsrervable in other sports. It’s still run and get that dude or get in that dudes way.Maybe get a hand up and try to block a punt. I agree that the smaller position players show a lot of transferable skills/abilities and this is where your crossover athletes come from.
I also agree that the constant standing around, followed usually by a dog-pile aspect of football is annoying.
I can’t stand the hype around the NFL. Hate the game not the player.
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June 22, 2010 at 3:44 PM #570252
NotCranky
ParticipantDid the “jocks” pick on people where you come from, Allan? Did only football players do it or soccer players too, baseball players? Where I came from the “jocks” didn’t pick on anyone. The gangbangers were in charge of violence. To tell you the truth I don’t even remember the “Jocks”. I remember a few guys on teams that I had in classes or someone who lived in my neighborhood who was great but ended up on drugs.
I still think football is dominated by a combination of speed and weight and protection from collisions because of it. The big guys might be a little better on those fronts but I don’t see where they are demonstrating much talent that is obsrervable in other sports. It’s still run and get that dude or get in that dudes way.Maybe get a hand up and try to block a punt. I agree that the smaller position players show a lot of transferable skills/abilities and this is where your crossover athletes come from.
I also agree that the constant standing around, followed usually by a dog-pile aspect of football is annoying.
I can’t stand the hype around the NFL. Hate the game not the player.
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June 22, 2010 at 2:48 PM #569315
Allan from Fallbrook
Participant[quote=CardiffBaseball]
Don’t forget hand-to-eye coordination, depth perception, reaction time, etc. The US team is comprised of our best soccer players, but not really our best athletes. Regarding the weight my feeling is there is a certain amount of weight in anaerobic (i.e. power/strength) sports that seems to be ideal for each guy and for that player it’s an individual thing. Certain positions you don’t want to lean out excessively.[/quote]
Cardiff: Or watching a 300+lb Texas Tech O lineman pulling and getting out in front of a 170lb tailback on a sweep. Given how prevalent the Spread and Open offenses are now in HS and college, you see some huge AND quick/fast O linemen. The old notion that these kids are just sides of beef with hands has long been dispelled, except for those who persist in their prejudices. Forgetting Euro versus American athletes for a second, I’m more amused by some of the guys who were clearly picked on by jocks in HS taking pot shots at football players now without any idea what they’re talking about.
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June 22, 2010 at 2:48 PM #569821
Allan from Fallbrook
Participant[quote=CardiffBaseball]
Don’t forget hand-to-eye coordination, depth perception, reaction time, etc. The US team is comprised of our best soccer players, but not really our best athletes. Regarding the weight my feeling is there is a certain amount of weight in anaerobic (i.e. power/strength) sports that seems to be ideal for each guy and for that player it’s an individual thing. Certain positions you don’t want to lean out excessively.[/quote]
Cardiff: Or watching a 300+lb Texas Tech O lineman pulling and getting out in front of a 170lb tailback on a sweep. Given how prevalent the Spread and Open offenses are now in HS and college, you see some huge AND quick/fast O linemen. The old notion that these kids are just sides of beef with hands has long been dispelled, except for those who persist in their prejudices. Forgetting Euro versus American athletes for a second, I’m more amused by some of the guys who were clearly picked on by jocks in HS taking pot shots at football players now without any idea what they’re talking about.
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June 22, 2010 at 2:48 PM #569924
Allan from Fallbrook
Participant[quote=CardiffBaseball]
Don’t forget hand-to-eye coordination, depth perception, reaction time, etc. The US team is comprised of our best soccer players, but not really our best athletes. Regarding the weight my feeling is there is a certain amount of weight in anaerobic (i.e. power/strength) sports that seems to be ideal for each guy and for that player it’s an individual thing. Certain positions you don’t want to lean out excessively.[/quote]
Cardiff: Or watching a 300+lb Texas Tech O lineman pulling and getting out in front of a 170lb tailback on a sweep. Given how prevalent the Spread and Open offenses are now in HS and college, you see some huge AND quick/fast O linemen. The old notion that these kids are just sides of beef with hands has long been dispelled, except for those who persist in their prejudices. Forgetting Euro versus American athletes for a second, I’m more amused by some of the guys who were clearly picked on by jocks in HS taking pot shots at football players now without any idea what they’re talking about.
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June 22, 2010 at 2:48 PM #570209
Allan from Fallbrook
Participant[quote=CardiffBaseball]
Don’t forget hand-to-eye coordination, depth perception, reaction time, etc. The US team is comprised of our best soccer players, but not really our best athletes. Regarding the weight my feeling is there is a certain amount of weight in anaerobic (i.e. power/strength) sports that seems to be ideal for each guy and for that player it’s an individual thing. Certain positions you don’t want to lean out excessively.[/quote]
Cardiff: Or watching a 300+lb Texas Tech O lineman pulling and getting out in front of a 170lb tailback on a sweep. Given how prevalent the Spread and Open offenses are now in HS and college, you see some huge AND quick/fast O linemen. The old notion that these kids are just sides of beef with hands has long been dispelled, except for those who persist in their prejudices. Forgetting Euro versus American athletes for a second, I’m more amused by some of the guys who were clearly picked on by jocks in HS taking pot shots at football players now without any idea what they’re talking about.
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June 22, 2010 at 2:20 PM #569290
CardiffBaseball
ParticipantI know what bone bruises can be like because I USED to (not anymore) pitch to boys without L-Screen protection. In general I stacked two buckets because I can always project myself frow waist up but the bat speed off of juice up composite bats was too much to get to the low ball. One time my foot was dangling and didn’t make it back, and it hit me so hard I had a second kneecap for about two hours. Never saw such swelling and no break, just a deep bone bruise that took a few weeks to heel. In fact about 2-3 months later I had a vein burst down in my foot which was a result of that impact. So I am sure this stuff can hurt….
I just mean the fake stuff, and guys acting as if they are hurt. I really don’t like that.
By the way iforget let’s not cherry pick your great us athletes. Do you think it’s any coincidence that your typical HS 100 meter stud is also the running back on the football team? Have you checked the vertical leap on these guys which is a indicator of the power contained within their posterior chain? I didn’t see any centerfielders in your list. Do you see many guys on the US team you’d thrown in for Rickey Henderson?
And let’s not forget the way Barkley embarrassed the rest of the world despite being a few pounds over ideal weight. Strange that none of the prissy Euro basketball players could handle him despite the fact that they “looked like athletes”.
Don’t forget hand-to-eye coordination, depth perception, reaction time, etc. The US team is comprised of our best soccer players, but not really our best athletes. Regarding the weight my feeling is there is a certain amount of weight in anaerobic (i.e. power/strength) sports that seems to be ideal for each guy and for that player it’s an individual thing. Certain positions you don’t want to lean out excessively.
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June 22, 2010 at 2:20 PM #569798
CardiffBaseball
ParticipantI know what bone bruises can be like because I USED to (not anymore) pitch to boys without L-Screen protection. In general I stacked two buckets because I can always project myself frow waist up but the bat speed off of juice up composite bats was too much to get to the low ball. One time my foot was dangling and didn’t make it back, and it hit me so hard I had a second kneecap for about two hours. Never saw such swelling and no break, just a deep bone bruise that took a few weeks to heel. In fact about 2-3 months later I had a vein burst down in my foot which was a result of that impact. So I am sure this stuff can hurt….
I just mean the fake stuff, and guys acting as if they are hurt. I really don’t like that.
By the way iforget let’s not cherry pick your great us athletes. Do you think it’s any coincidence that your typical HS 100 meter stud is also the running back on the football team? Have you checked the vertical leap on these guys which is a indicator of the power contained within their posterior chain? I didn’t see any centerfielders in your list. Do you see many guys on the US team you’d thrown in for Rickey Henderson?
And let’s not forget the way Barkley embarrassed the rest of the world despite being a few pounds over ideal weight. Strange that none of the prissy Euro basketball players could handle him despite the fact that they “looked like athletes”.
Don’t forget hand-to-eye coordination, depth perception, reaction time, etc. The US team is comprised of our best soccer players, but not really our best athletes. Regarding the weight my feeling is there is a certain amount of weight in anaerobic (i.e. power/strength) sports that seems to be ideal for each guy and for that player it’s an individual thing. Certain positions you don’t want to lean out excessively.
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June 22, 2010 at 2:20 PM #569899
CardiffBaseball
ParticipantI know what bone bruises can be like because I USED to (not anymore) pitch to boys without L-Screen protection. In general I stacked two buckets because I can always project myself frow waist up but the bat speed off of juice up composite bats was too much to get to the low ball. One time my foot was dangling and didn’t make it back, and it hit me so hard I had a second kneecap for about two hours. Never saw such swelling and no break, just a deep bone bruise that took a few weeks to heel. In fact about 2-3 months later I had a vein burst down in my foot which was a result of that impact. So I am sure this stuff can hurt….
I just mean the fake stuff, and guys acting as if they are hurt. I really don’t like that.
By the way iforget let’s not cherry pick your great us athletes. Do you think it’s any coincidence that your typical HS 100 meter stud is also the running back on the football team? Have you checked the vertical leap on these guys which is a indicator of the power contained within their posterior chain? I didn’t see any centerfielders in your list. Do you see many guys on the US team you’d thrown in for Rickey Henderson?
And let’s not forget the way Barkley embarrassed the rest of the world despite being a few pounds over ideal weight. Strange that none of the prissy Euro basketball players could handle him despite the fact that they “looked like athletes”.
Don’t forget hand-to-eye coordination, depth perception, reaction time, etc. The US team is comprised of our best soccer players, but not really our best athletes. Regarding the weight my feeling is there is a certain amount of weight in anaerobic (i.e. power/strength) sports that seems to be ideal for each guy and for that player it’s an individual thing. Certain positions you don’t want to lean out excessively.
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June 22, 2010 at 2:20 PM #570185
CardiffBaseball
ParticipantI know what bone bruises can be like because I USED to (not anymore) pitch to boys without L-Screen protection. In general I stacked two buckets because I can always project myself frow waist up but the bat speed off of juice up composite bats was too much to get to the low ball. One time my foot was dangling and didn’t make it back, and it hit me so hard I had a second kneecap for about two hours. Never saw such swelling and no break, just a deep bone bruise that took a few weeks to heel. In fact about 2-3 months later I had a vein burst down in my foot which was a result of that impact. So I am sure this stuff can hurt….
I just mean the fake stuff, and guys acting as if they are hurt. I really don’t like that.
By the way iforget let’s not cherry pick your great us athletes. Do you think it’s any coincidence that your typical HS 100 meter stud is also the running back on the football team? Have you checked the vertical leap on these guys which is a indicator of the power contained within their posterior chain? I didn’t see any centerfielders in your list. Do you see many guys on the US team you’d thrown in for Rickey Henderson?
And let’s not forget the way Barkley embarrassed the rest of the world despite being a few pounds over ideal weight. Strange that none of the prissy Euro basketball players could handle him despite the fact that they “looked like athletes”.
Don’t forget hand-to-eye coordination, depth perception, reaction time, etc. The US team is comprised of our best soccer players, but not really our best athletes. Regarding the weight my feeling is there is a certain amount of weight in anaerobic (i.e. power/strength) sports that seems to be ideal for each guy and for that player it’s an individual thing. Certain positions you don’t want to lean out excessively.
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June 22, 2010 at 11:05 AM #569222
34f3f3f
Participant[quote=IForget]General Advisory: This thread involves good-natured ‘ribbing’ between fans of different ‘sports’.
If your panties are susceptible to bunching and you are prone to throwing hissy fits, maybe this thread isn’t for you.[/quote]
Hahaha! You’re not British by any chance?
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June 22, 2010 at 11:05 AM #569729
34f3f3f
Participant[quote=IForget]General Advisory: This thread involves good-natured ‘ribbing’ between fans of different ‘sports’.
If your panties are susceptible to bunching and you are prone to throwing hissy fits, maybe this thread isn’t for you.[/quote]
Hahaha! You’re not British by any chance?
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June 22, 2010 at 11:05 AM #569832
34f3f3f
Participant[quote=IForget]General Advisory: This thread involves good-natured ‘ribbing’ between fans of different ‘sports’.
If your panties are susceptible to bunching and you are prone to throwing hissy fits, maybe this thread isn’t for you.[/quote]
Hahaha! You’re not British by any chance?
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June 22, 2010 at 11:05 AM #570116
34f3f3f
Participant[quote=IForget]General Advisory: This thread involves good-natured ‘ribbing’ between fans of different ‘sports’.
If your panties are susceptible to bunching and you are prone to throwing hissy fits, maybe this thread isn’t for you.[/quote]
Hahaha! You’re not British by any chance?
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June 22, 2010 at 8:17 AM #569070
Anonymous
GuestGeneral Advisory: This thread involves good-natured ‘ribbing’ between fans of different ‘sports’. (That is, if games like American ‘football’ where every 3 seconds of ‘action’ requires a 60-second break and games like baseball where players’ heads magically grow to three times their previous size in mid-adulthood can be called ‘sports’).
If your panties are susceptible to bunching and you are prone to throwing hissy fits, maybe this thread isn’t for you.
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June 22, 2010 at 8:17 AM #569577
Anonymous
GuestGeneral Advisory: This thread involves good-natured ‘ribbing’ between fans of different ‘sports’. (That is, if games like American ‘football’ where every 3 seconds of ‘action’ requires a 60-second break and games like baseball where players’ heads magically grow to three times their previous size in mid-adulthood can be called ‘sports’).
If your panties are susceptible to bunching and you are prone to throwing hissy fits, maybe this thread isn’t for you.
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June 22, 2010 at 8:17 AM #569682
Anonymous
GuestGeneral Advisory: This thread involves good-natured ‘ribbing’ between fans of different ‘sports’. (That is, if games like American ‘football’ where every 3 seconds of ‘action’ requires a 60-second break and games like baseball where players’ heads magically grow to three times their previous size in mid-adulthood can be called ‘sports’).
If your panties are susceptible to bunching and you are prone to throwing hissy fits, maybe this thread isn’t for you.
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June 22, 2010 at 8:17 AM #569963
Anonymous
GuestGeneral Advisory: This thread involves good-natured ‘ribbing’ between fans of different ‘sports’. (That is, if games like American ‘football’ where every 3 seconds of ‘action’ requires a 60-second break and games like baseball where players’ heads magically grow to three times their previous size in mid-adulthood can be called ‘sports’).
If your panties are susceptible to bunching and you are prone to throwing hissy fits, maybe this thread isn’t for you.
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June 22, 2010 at 9:13 AM #569053
sdduuuude
ParticipantI hate to say it, but those photos of famous american athletes is pretty damn funny. Still, I continue to be open-jawed by brian’s and Iforget’s inability to play nice with others in a thread where we are just talking about sports.
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June 22, 2010 at 9:39 AM #569068
Allan from Fallbrook
Participant[quote=sdduuuude]I hate to say it, but those photos of famous american athletes is pretty damn funny. Still, I continue to be open-jawed by brian’s and Iforget’s inability to play nice with others in a thread where we are just talking about sports.[/quote]
Dude: Just call Brian and IForget on their initial BS and then ignore the bloviating that follows.
I was wondering how MLB pitcher Terry Forster (remember Letterman’s “fat tub of goo” remark?) was left out of the photos.
Or Babe Ruth.
Or Charles Barkley. Turrible, just turrible.
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June 22, 2010 at 9:39 AM #569164
Allan from Fallbrook
Participant[quote=sdduuuude]I hate to say it, but those photos of famous american athletes is pretty damn funny. Still, I continue to be open-jawed by brian’s and Iforget’s inability to play nice with others in a thread where we are just talking about sports.[/quote]
Dude: Just call Brian and IForget on their initial BS and then ignore the bloviating that follows.
I was wondering how MLB pitcher Terry Forster (remember Letterman’s “fat tub of goo” remark?) was left out of the photos.
Or Babe Ruth.
Or Charles Barkley. Turrible, just turrible.
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June 22, 2010 at 9:39 AM #569670
Allan from Fallbrook
Participant[quote=sdduuuude]I hate to say it, but those photos of famous american athletes is pretty damn funny. Still, I continue to be open-jawed by brian’s and Iforget’s inability to play nice with others in a thread where we are just talking about sports.[/quote]
Dude: Just call Brian and IForget on their initial BS and then ignore the bloviating that follows.
I was wondering how MLB pitcher Terry Forster (remember Letterman’s “fat tub of goo” remark?) was left out of the photos.
Or Babe Ruth.
Or Charles Barkley. Turrible, just turrible.
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June 22, 2010 at 9:39 AM #569776
Allan from Fallbrook
Participant[quote=sdduuuude]I hate to say it, but those photos of famous american athletes is pretty damn funny. Still, I continue to be open-jawed by brian’s and Iforget’s inability to play nice with others in a thread where we are just talking about sports.[/quote]
Dude: Just call Brian and IForget on their initial BS and then ignore the bloviating that follows.
I was wondering how MLB pitcher Terry Forster (remember Letterman’s “fat tub of goo” remark?) was left out of the photos.
Or Babe Ruth.
Or Charles Barkley. Turrible, just turrible.
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June 22, 2010 at 9:39 AM #570058
Allan from Fallbrook
Participant[quote=sdduuuude]I hate to say it, but those photos of famous american athletes is pretty damn funny. Still, I continue to be open-jawed by brian’s and Iforget’s inability to play nice with others in a thread where we are just talking about sports.[/quote]
Dude: Just call Brian and IForget on their initial BS and then ignore the bloviating that follows.
I was wondering how MLB pitcher Terry Forster (remember Letterman’s “fat tub of goo” remark?) was left out of the photos.
Or Babe Ruth.
Or Charles Barkley. Turrible, just turrible.
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June 22, 2010 at 9:45 AM #569073
NotCranky
Participant[quote=sdduuuude]I hate to say it, but those photos of famous american athletes is pretty damn funny. Still, I continue to be open-jawed by brian’s and Iforget’s inability to play nice with others in a thread where we are just talking about sports.[/quote]
Funny or sad…I don’t know.A good portion of the guys of an average high school football team can not beat the average “non-athlete” from the same school in the decathlon. Many of the girls would beat them. I guess with the plumping up of America that might not be true today, but it was when I was a kid. Good thing they had separate PE classes for athletes because a lot of them would get smoked by average guys in a multi-sport PE class… The fastest miler and half miler also tends to under perform in other athletic endeavors, but they are elite for what they do relative to the school population. The miler is more looked at like a geek, simply because he is skinny and not fat enough to be on the football team. The fastest miler would probably beat a lot of his football playing classmates in the decathlon and the soccer players certainly would.Disclaimer: I wasn’t that fastest miler or a lineman at my school.
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June 22, 2010 at 9:54 AM #569083
Allan from Fallbrook
Participant[quote=Russell]Funny or sad…I don’t know.A good portion of the guys of an average high school football team can not beat the average “non-athlete” from the same school in the decathlon. Many of the girls would beat them. I guess with the plumping up of America that might not be true today, but it was when I was a kid. Good thing they had separate PE classes for athletes because a lot of them would get smoked by average guys in a multi-sport PE class… The fastest miler and half miler also tends to under perform in other athletic endeavors, but they are elite for what they do relative to the school population. The miler is more looked at like a geek, simply because he is skinny and not fat enough to be on the football team. The fastest miler would probably beat a lot of his football playing classmates in the decathlon and the soccer players certainly would.
Disclaimer: I wasn’t that fastest miler or a lineman at my school.[/quote]
Russell: Nope, you’re right. A good portion of our offensive line was “excused” when we used to do stadium runs (up and down the stairs at our field), namely because they couldn’t hack it.
However, the linebackers, defensive backs and offensive skill position players all participated in other sports, including Track & Field, baseball and wrestling. I don’t know about your high school’s wrestling program, but ours was physically brutal, including a huge amount of “roadwork” (i.e. distance running) and weight lifting. I knew a lot of guys from the cross-country and swim teams because I ran and swam with them (I swam rather than ran whenever I could because it was less punishing on the knees).
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June 22, 2010 at 10:45 PM #569487
CDMA ENG
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=Russell]Funny or sad…I don’t know.A good portion of the guys of an average high school football team can not beat the average “non-athlete” from the same school in the decathlon. Many of the girls would beat them. I guess with the plumping up of America that might not be true today, but it was when I was a kid. Good thing they had separate PE classes for athletes because a lot of them would get smoked by average guys in a multi-sport PE class… The fastest miler and half miler also tends to under perform in other athletic endeavors, but they are elite for what they do relative to the school population. The miler is more looked at like a geek, simply because he is skinny and not fat enough to be on the football team. The fastest miler would probably beat a lot of his football playing classmates in the decathlon and the soccer players certainly would.
Disclaimer: I wasn’t that fastest miler or a lineman at my school.[/quote]
Russell: Nope, you’re right. A good portion of our offensive line was “excused” when we used to do stadium runs (up and down the stairs at our field), namely because they couldn’t hack it.
However, the linebackers, defensive backs and offensive skill position players all participated in other sports, including Track & Field, baseball and wrestling. I don’t know about your high school’s wrestling program, but ours was physically brutal, including a huge amount of “roadwork” (i.e. distance running) and weight lifting. I knew a lot of guys from the cross-country and swim teams because I ran and swam with them (I swam rather than ran whenever I could because it was less punishing on the knees).[/quote]
Couldn’t be more true… You were a Ranger Allan… How many people did you know that got a performance drop because they couldn’t do one particular thing? They did well in everything else but couldn’t hack a run time or a swim time… But were fantastic in everything else? All of those guys were pretty much atheletes that failed because they weren’t well rounded.
The definition of a athelete is pretty broad this days but I heard the perfect definiton a couple of years back.
First you have to define what it is they do as a sport or a skill. I once heard that if you can smoke or drink while doing it than its a skill. Golf, Curling, and even some would say baseball is a skill.
If it is a skill then you are NOT an athelete!
CE
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June 22, 2010 at 10:53 PM #569502
Allan from Fallbrook
Participant[quote=CDMA ENG]Couldn’t be more true… You were a Ranger Allan… How many people did you know that got a performance drop because they couldn’t do one particular thing? They did well in everything else but couldn’t hack a run time or a swim time… But were fantastic in everything else? All of those guys were pretty much atheletes that failed because they weren’t well rounded.
CE[/quote]
CE: Good point regarding particular weaknesses, such as an inability to hack water training or Land Navigation (you’d be amazed at the number of guys that cannot figure basic fieldcraft out). Quite a few guys washed out of water training (the CWST, combat water survival test), including most of the inner city kids (white, black and Hispanic), who had never been around water and generally had never learned to swim. These are guys that are in incredible physical condition and do PT all day long, but water training sunk ’em (sorry, couldn’t resist).
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June 22, 2010 at 11:09 PM #569519
CDMA ENG
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=CDMA ENG]Couldn’t be more true… You were a Ranger Allan… How many people did you know that got a performance drop because they couldn’t do one particular thing? They did well in everything else but couldn’t hack a run time or a swim time… But were fantastic in everything else? All of those guys were pretty much atheletes that failed because they weren’t well rounded.
CE[/quote]
CE: Good point regarding particular weaknesses, such as an inability to hack water training or Land Navigation (you’d be amazed at the number of guys that cannot figure basic fieldcraft out). Quite a few guys washed out of water training (the CWST, combat water survival test), including most of the inner city kids (white, black and Hispanic), who had never been around water and generally had never learned to swim. These are guys that are in incredible physical condition and do PT all day long, but water training sunk ’em (sorry, couldn’t resist).[/quote]
Funny you mentioned that. The SEALs just released a study and found that thier highest graduation rate was among water babies athletes. Swimmers and Water Polo was the highest. Guys who played football and baseball were among the lowest. It was all about comfort level in the water and if you have a problem with the “S” in SEAL… Well…
CE
CE
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June 23, 2010 at 8:55 AM #569701
afx114
ParticipantAfter this morning’s photo finish, how could you not be a fan of soccer?
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June 23, 2010 at 9:02 AM #569710
SD Transplant
ParticipantGoooalllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll.
Outstanding job team USA……BRAVO
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June 23, 2010 at 9:02 AM #569806
SD Transplant
ParticipantGoooalllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll.
Outstanding job team USA……BRAVO
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June 23, 2010 at 9:02 AM #570313
SD Transplant
ParticipantGoooalllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll.
Outstanding job team USA……BRAVO
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June 23, 2010 at 9:02 AM #570417
SD Transplant
ParticipantGoooalllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll.
Outstanding job team USA……BRAVO
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June 23, 2010 at 9:02 AM #570700
SD Transplant
ParticipantGoooalllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll.
Outstanding job team USA……BRAVO
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June 23, 2010 at 8:55 AM #569797
afx114
ParticipantAfter this morning’s photo finish, how could you not be a fan of soccer?
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June 23, 2010 at 8:55 AM #570303
afx114
ParticipantAfter this morning’s photo finish, how could you not be a fan of soccer?
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June 23, 2010 at 8:55 AM #570408
afx114
ParticipantAfter this morning’s photo finish, how could you not be a fan of soccer?
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June 23, 2010 at 8:55 AM #570690
afx114
ParticipantAfter this morning’s photo finish, how could you not be a fan of soccer?
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June 22, 2010 at 11:09 PM #569614
CDMA ENG
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=CDMA ENG]Couldn’t be more true… You were a Ranger Allan… How many people did you know that got a performance drop because they couldn’t do one particular thing? They did well in everything else but couldn’t hack a run time or a swim time… But were fantastic in everything else? All of those guys were pretty much atheletes that failed because they weren’t well rounded.
CE[/quote]
CE: Good point regarding particular weaknesses, such as an inability to hack water training or Land Navigation (you’d be amazed at the number of guys that cannot figure basic fieldcraft out). Quite a few guys washed out of water training (the CWST, combat water survival test), including most of the inner city kids (white, black and Hispanic), who had never been around water and generally had never learned to swim. These are guys that are in incredible physical condition and do PT all day long, but water training sunk ’em (sorry, couldn’t resist).[/quote]
Funny you mentioned that. The SEALs just released a study and found that thier highest graduation rate was among water babies athletes. Swimmers and Water Polo was the highest. Guys who played football and baseball were among the lowest. It was all about comfort level in the water and if you have a problem with the “S” in SEAL… Well…
CE
CE
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June 22, 2010 at 11:09 PM #570120
CDMA ENG
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=CDMA ENG]Couldn’t be more true… You were a Ranger Allan… How many people did you know that got a performance drop because they couldn’t do one particular thing? They did well in everything else but couldn’t hack a run time or a swim time… But were fantastic in everything else? All of those guys were pretty much atheletes that failed because they weren’t well rounded.
CE[/quote]
CE: Good point regarding particular weaknesses, such as an inability to hack water training or Land Navigation (you’d be amazed at the number of guys that cannot figure basic fieldcraft out). Quite a few guys washed out of water training (the CWST, combat water survival test), including most of the inner city kids (white, black and Hispanic), who had never been around water and generally had never learned to swim. These are guys that are in incredible physical condition and do PT all day long, but water training sunk ’em (sorry, couldn’t resist).[/quote]
Funny you mentioned that. The SEALs just released a study and found that thier highest graduation rate was among water babies athletes. Swimmers and Water Polo was the highest. Guys who played football and baseball were among the lowest. It was all about comfort level in the water and if you have a problem with the “S” in SEAL… Well…
CE
CE
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June 22, 2010 at 11:09 PM #570225
CDMA ENG
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=CDMA ENG]Couldn’t be more true… You were a Ranger Allan… How many people did you know that got a performance drop because they couldn’t do one particular thing? They did well in everything else but couldn’t hack a run time or a swim time… But were fantastic in everything else? All of those guys were pretty much atheletes that failed because they weren’t well rounded.
CE[/quote]
CE: Good point regarding particular weaknesses, such as an inability to hack water training or Land Navigation (you’d be amazed at the number of guys that cannot figure basic fieldcraft out). Quite a few guys washed out of water training (the CWST, combat water survival test), including most of the inner city kids (white, black and Hispanic), who had never been around water and generally had never learned to swim. These are guys that are in incredible physical condition and do PT all day long, but water training sunk ’em (sorry, couldn’t resist).[/quote]
Funny you mentioned that. The SEALs just released a study and found that thier highest graduation rate was among water babies athletes. Swimmers and Water Polo was the highest. Guys who played football and baseball were among the lowest. It was all about comfort level in the water and if you have a problem with the “S” in SEAL… Well…
CE
CE
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June 22, 2010 at 11:09 PM #570507
CDMA ENG
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=CDMA ENG]Couldn’t be more true… You were a Ranger Allan… How many people did you know that got a performance drop because they couldn’t do one particular thing? They did well in everything else but couldn’t hack a run time or a swim time… But were fantastic in everything else? All of those guys were pretty much atheletes that failed because they weren’t well rounded.
CE[/quote]
CE: Good point regarding particular weaknesses, such as an inability to hack water training or Land Navigation (you’d be amazed at the number of guys that cannot figure basic fieldcraft out). Quite a few guys washed out of water training (the CWST, combat water survival test), including most of the inner city kids (white, black and Hispanic), who had never been around water and generally had never learned to swim. These are guys that are in incredible physical condition and do PT all day long, but water training sunk ’em (sorry, couldn’t resist).[/quote]
Funny you mentioned that. The SEALs just released a study and found that thier highest graduation rate was among water babies athletes. Swimmers and Water Polo was the highest. Guys who played football and baseball were among the lowest. It was all about comfort level in the water and if you have a problem with the “S” in SEAL… Well…
CE
CE
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June 22, 2010 at 10:53 PM #569596
Allan from Fallbrook
Participant[quote=CDMA ENG]Couldn’t be more true… You were a Ranger Allan… How many people did you know that got a performance drop because they couldn’t do one particular thing? They did well in everything else but couldn’t hack a run time or a swim time… But were fantastic in everything else? All of those guys were pretty much atheletes that failed because they weren’t well rounded.
CE[/quote]
CE: Good point regarding particular weaknesses, such as an inability to hack water training or Land Navigation (you’d be amazed at the number of guys that cannot figure basic fieldcraft out). Quite a few guys washed out of water training (the CWST, combat water survival test), including most of the inner city kids (white, black and Hispanic), who had never been around water and generally had never learned to swim. These are guys that are in incredible physical condition and do PT all day long, but water training sunk ’em (sorry, couldn’t resist).
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June 22, 2010 at 10:53 PM #570102
Allan from Fallbrook
Participant[quote=CDMA ENG]Couldn’t be more true… You were a Ranger Allan… How many people did you know that got a performance drop because they couldn’t do one particular thing? They did well in everything else but couldn’t hack a run time or a swim time… But were fantastic in everything else? All of those guys were pretty much atheletes that failed because they weren’t well rounded.
CE[/quote]
CE: Good point regarding particular weaknesses, such as an inability to hack water training or Land Navigation (you’d be amazed at the number of guys that cannot figure basic fieldcraft out). Quite a few guys washed out of water training (the CWST, combat water survival test), including most of the inner city kids (white, black and Hispanic), who had never been around water and generally had never learned to swim. These are guys that are in incredible physical condition and do PT all day long, but water training sunk ’em (sorry, couldn’t resist).
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June 22, 2010 at 10:53 PM #570207
Allan from Fallbrook
Participant[quote=CDMA ENG]Couldn’t be more true… You were a Ranger Allan… How many people did you know that got a performance drop because they couldn’t do one particular thing? They did well in everything else but couldn’t hack a run time or a swim time… But were fantastic in everything else? All of those guys were pretty much atheletes that failed because they weren’t well rounded.
CE[/quote]
CE: Good point regarding particular weaknesses, such as an inability to hack water training or Land Navigation (you’d be amazed at the number of guys that cannot figure basic fieldcraft out). Quite a few guys washed out of water training (the CWST, combat water survival test), including most of the inner city kids (white, black and Hispanic), who had never been around water and generally had never learned to swim. These are guys that are in incredible physical condition and do PT all day long, but water training sunk ’em (sorry, couldn’t resist).
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June 22, 2010 at 10:53 PM #570490
Allan from Fallbrook
Participant[quote=CDMA ENG]Couldn’t be more true… You were a Ranger Allan… How many people did you know that got a performance drop because they couldn’t do one particular thing? They did well in everything else but couldn’t hack a run time or a swim time… But were fantastic in everything else? All of those guys were pretty much atheletes that failed because they weren’t well rounded.
CE[/quote]
CE: Good point regarding particular weaknesses, such as an inability to hack water training or Land Navigation (you’d be amazed at the number of guys that cannot figure basic fieldcraft out). Quite a few guys washed out of water training (the CWST, combat water survival test), including most of the inner city kids (white, black and Hispanic), who had never been around water and generally had never learned to swim. These are guys that are in incredible physical condition and do PT all day long, but water training sunk ’em (sorry, couldn’t resist).
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June 23, 2010 at 11:06 AM #569835
sdduuuude
ParticipantSports and Games according to the duuuude:
A “game” is pretty much any activity that involves scoring of some kind. (Not like Beavis and Butthead “huh, huh, huh, I’m gonna score.” I mean like keeping track of points, status, etc.).
A “competition” is a game with an objective set of rules to determine a winner. For me, this rules out figure skating and other such “subjective” judging. It also makes for gray areas. Gymnastics, has a pretty good set of clearly defined rules (2 flips better than 1. Landing on feet better than landing on butt), but still has some subjectivity. Even some sports with subjective refereeing are suspect. This is what drives me nuts about soccer. A race is clearly a competition. Nobody argues about who won a race.
An “athletic endeavor” is any activity (game, or not) that require strength, stamina, power, or speed. Again, there is some gray here. The more of the above that is required, the more something can be called athletic. Gymnastics is clearly an athletic endeavor. Football is clearly one as well. Baseball barely qualifies, even with the posted photos. Bowling is on the edge. It requires one strong arm and body strength helps. Race car driving is pretty far down the list, though it requires endurance. Chess is at the bottom. Chess is a great competition. Not a sport.
A “skill endeavour” is any activity that requires coordination, concentration, strategic thinking, timing, decision making, etc. Bowling – definitely a competition requiring skill. Running a race – not quite so much. There is some technique to running but it’s all about speed and power.
For me, a “sport” must be both an objective “competition” and an “athletic endeavor.” Gray areas make it difficult to draw the line, but it for me the line is always drawn on one of these two points.
So – take any activity and ask – “is it a competition ?” and “does it require athleticism” ? Answer yes to both and you have a sport. Answer “no” to either and you have something else: either a non-athletic competition or an athletic endeavor that is not a competiton. Or, just a game.
Separately, you can ask “does it require skill?” Answering yes or no doesn’t change the answer to the question of “is it a sport.” Some sports require significant skill in addtion to athletic ability. Some sports don’t.
Just because something is not a sport doesn’t mean it isn’t exciting to watch, and doesn’t mean it doesn’t belong on a Sports netowrk. TV Sports are all about competition. Great competitions, whether athletic or not, make for good viewing. They are, after all, the original reality TV.
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June 23, 2010 at 11:07 AM #569854
Zeitgeist
ParticipantSo what about mud wrestling?
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June 23, 2010 at 12:23 PM #569979
sdduuuude
Participant[quote=Zeitgeist]So what about mud wrestling?[/quote]
Not a true competition because EVERYBODY wins !
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June 23, 2010 at 12:40 PM #569989
ibjames
ParticipantI’m not a fan of soccer, but I look forward to the world cup games. It is fun to see the whole world engaged in a sport. The olympics are neat, but the whole world isn’t watching the pole vaulting championship.
The whole world is watching this. That is what makes me want to watch it. I usually only tune in later in the game though. I’ve never watched a full game 🙁 They have a web feed going on at my work, when the US scored today I screamed from my cube, forgetting I was at work
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June 23, 2010 at 12:40 PM #570085
ibjames
ParticipantI’m not a fan of soccer, but I look forward to the world cup games. It is fun to see the whole world engaged in a sport. The olympics are neat, but the whole world isn’t watching the pole vaulting championship.
The whole world is watching this. That is what makes me want to watch it. I usually only tune in later in the game though. I’ve never watched a full game 🙁 They have a web feed going on at my work, when the US scored today I screamed from my cube, forgetting I was at work
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June 23, 2010 at 12:40 PM #570591
ibjames
ParticipantI’m not a fan of soccer, but I look forward to the world cup games. It is fun to see the whole world engaged in a sport. The olympics are neat, but the whole world isn’t watching the pole vaulting championship.
The whole world is watching this. That is what makes me want to watch it. I usually only tune in later in the game though. I’ve never watched a full game 🙁 They have a web feed going on at my work, when the US scored today I screamed from my cube, forgetting I was at work
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June 23, 2010 at 12:40 PM #570699
ibjames
ParticipantI’m not a fan of soccer, but I look forward to the world cup games. It is fun to see the whole world engaged in a sport. The olympics are neat, but the whole world isn’t watching the pole vaulting championship.
The whole world is watching this. That is what makes me want to watch it. I usually only tune in later in the game though. I’ve never watched a full game 🙁 They have a web feed going on at my work, when the US scored today I screamed from my cube, forgetting I was at work
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June 23, 2010 at 12:40 PM #570986
ibjames
ParticipantI’m not a fan of soccer, but I look forward to the world cup games. It is fun to see the whole world engaged in a sport. The olympics are neat, but the whole world isn’t watching the pole vaulting championship.
The whole world is watching this. That is what makes me want to watch it. I usually only tune in later in the game though. I’ve never watched a full game 🙁 They have a web feed going on at my work, when the US scored today I screamed from my cube, forgetting I was at work
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June 23, 2010 at 12:23 PM #570076
sdduuuude
Participant[quote=Zeitgeist]So what about mud wrestling?[/quote]
Not a true competition because EVERYBODY wins !
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June 23, 2010 at 12:23 PM #570581
sdduuuude
Participant[quote=Zeitgeist]So what about mud wrestling?[/quote]
Not a true competition because EVERYBODY wins !
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June 23, 2010 at 12:23 PM #570689
sdduuuude
Participant[quote=Zeitgeist]So what about mud wrestling?[/quote]
Not a true competition because EVERYBODY wins !
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June 23, 2010 at 12:23 PM #570976
sdduuuude
Participant[quote=Zeitgeist]So what about mud wrestling?[/quote]
Not a true competition because EVERYBODY wins !
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June 23, 2010 at 11:07 AM #569947
Zeitgeist
ParticipantSo what about mud wrestling?
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June 23, 2010 at 11:07 AM #570458
Zeitgeist
ParticipantSo what about mud wrestling?
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June 23, 2010 at 11:07 AM #570560
Zeitgeist
ParticipantSo what about mud wrestling?
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June 23, 2010 at 11:07 AM #570847
Zeitgeist
ParticipantSo what about mud wrestling?
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June 23, 2010 at 11:06 AM #569927
sdduuuude
ParticipantSports and Games according to the duuuude:
A “game” is pretty much any activity that involves scoring of some kind. (Not like Beavis and Butthead “huh, huh, huh, I’m gonna score.” I mean like keeping track of points, status, etc.).
A “competition” is a game with an objective set of rules to determine a winner. For me, this rules out figure skating and other such “subjective” judging. It also makes for gray areas. Gymnastics, has a pretty good set of clearly defined rules (2 flips better than 1. Landing on feet better than landing on butt), but still has some subjectivity. Even some sports with subjective refereeing are suspect. This is what drives me nuts about soccer. A race is clearly a competition. Nobody argues about who won a race.
An “athletic endeavor” is any activity (game, or not) that require strength, stamina, power, or speed. Again, there is some gray here. The more of the above that is required, the more something can be called athletic. Gymnastics is clearly an athletic endeavor. Football is clearly one as well. Baseball barely qualifies, even with the posted photos. Bowling is on the edge. It requires one strong arm and body strength helps. Race car driving is pretty far down the list, though it requires endurance. Chess is at the bottom. Chess is a great competition. Not a sport.
A “skill endeavour” is any activity that requires coordination, concentration, strategic thinking, timing, decision making, etc. Bowling – definitely a competition requiring skill. Running a race – not quite so much. There is some technique to running but it’s all about speed and power.
For me, a “sport” must be both an objective “competition” and an “athletic endeavor.” Gray areas make it difficult to draw the line, but it for me the line is always drawn on one of these two points.
So – take any activity and ask – “is it a competition ?” and “does it require athleticism” ? Answer yes to both and you have a sport. Answer “no” to either and you have something else: either a non-athletic competition or an athletic endeavor that is not a competiton. Or, just a game.
Separately, you can ask “does it require skill?” Answering yes or no doesn’t change the answer to the question of “is it a sport.” Some sports require significant skill in addtion to athletic ability. Some sports don’t.
Just because something is not a sport doesn’t mean it isn’t exciting to watch, and doesn’t mean it doesn’t belong on a Sports netowrk. TV Sports are all about competition. Great competitions, whether athletic or not, make for good viewing. They are, after all, the original reality TV.
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June 23, 2010 at 11:06 AM #570438
sdduuuude
ParticipantSports and Games according to the duuuude:
A “game” is pretty much any activity that involves scoring of some kind. (Not like Beavis and Butthead “huh, huh, huh, I’m gonna score.” I mean like keeping track of points, status, etc.).
A “competition” is a game with an objective set of rules to determine a winner. For me, this rules out figure skating and other such “subjective” judging. It also makes for gray areas. Gymnastics, has a pretty good set of clearly defined rules (2 flips better than 1. Landing on feet better than landing on butt), but still has some subjectivity. Even some sports with subjective refereeing are suspect. This is what drives me nuts about soccer. A race is clearly a competition. Nobody argues about who won a race.
An “athletic endeavor” is any activity (game, or not) that require strength, stamina, power, or speed. Again, there is some gray here. The more of the above that is required, the more something can be called athletic. Gymnastics is clearly an athletic endeavor. Football is clearly one as well. Baseball barely qualifies, even with the posted photos. Bowling is on the edge. It requires one strong arm and body strength helps. Race car driving is pretty far down the list, though it requires endurance. Chess is at the bottom. Chess is a great competition. Not a sport.
A “skill endeavour” is any activity that requires coordination, concentration, strategic thinking, timing, decision making, etc. Bowling – definitely a competition requiring skill. Running a race – not quite so much. There is some technique to running but it’s all about speed and power.
For me, a “sport” must be both an objective “competition” and an “athletic endeavor.” Gray areas make it difficult to draw the line, but it for me the line is always drawn on one of these two points.
So – take any activity and ask – “is it a competition ?” and “does it require athleticism” ? Answer yes to both and you have a sport. Answer “no” to either and you have something else: either a non-athletic competition or an athletic endeavor that is not a competiton. Or, just a game.
Separately, you can ask “does it require skill?” Answering yes or no doesn’t change the answer to the question of “is it a sport.” Some sports require significant skill in addtion to athletic ability. Some sports don’t.
Just because something is not a sport doesn’t mean it isn’t exciting to watch, and doesn’t mean it doesn’t belong on a Sports netowrk. TV Sports are all about competition. Great competitions, whether athletic or not, make for good viewing. They are, after all, the original reality TV.
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June 23, 2010 at 11:06 AM #570539
sdduuuude
ParticipantSports and Games according to the duuuude:
A “game” is pretty much any activity that involves scoring of some kind. (Not like Beavis and Butthead “huh, huh, huh, I’m gonna score.” I mean like keeping track of points, status, etc.).
A “competition” is a game with an objective set of rules to determine a winner. For me, this rules out figure skating and other such “subjective” judging. It also makes for gray areas. Gymnastics, has a pretty good set of clearly defined rules (2 flips better than 1. Landing on feet better than landing on butt), but still has some subjectivity. Even some sports with subjective refereeing are suspect. This is what drives me nuts about soccer. A race is clearly a competition. Nobody argues about who won a race.
An “athletic endeavor” is any activity (game, or not) that require strength, stamina, power, or speed. Again, there is some gray here. The more of the above that is required, the more something can be called athletic. Gymnastics is clearly an athletic endeavor. Football is clearly one as well. Baseball barely qualifies, even with the posted photos. Bowling is on the edge. It requires one strong arm and body strength helps. Race car driving is pretty far down the list, though it requires endurance. Chess is at the bottom. Chess is a great competition. Not a sport.
A “skill endeavour” is any activity that requires coordination, concentration, strategic thinking, timing, decision making, etc. Bowling – definitely a competition requiring skill. Running a race – not quite so much. There is some technique to running but it’s all about speed and power.
For me, a “sport” must be both an objective “competition” and an “athletic endeavor.” Gray areas make it difficult to draw the line, but it for me the line is always drawn on one of these two points.
So – take any activity and ask – “is it a competition ?” and “does it require athleticism” ? Answer yes to both and you have a sport. Answer “no” to either and you have something else: either a non-athletic competition or an athletic endeavor that is not a competiton. Or, just a game.
Separately, you can ask “does it require skill?” Answering yes or no doesn’t change the answer to the question of “is it a sport.” Some sports require significant skill in addtion to athletic ability. Some sports don’t.
Just because something is not a sport doesn’t mean it isn’t exciting to watch, and doesn’t mean it doesn’t belong on a Sports netowrk. TV Sports are all about competition. Great competitions, whether athletic or not, make for good viewing. They are, after all, the original reality TV.
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June 23, 2010 at 11:06 AM #570827
sdduuuude
ParticipantSports and Games according to the duuuude:
A “game” is pretty much any activity that involves scoring of some kind. (Not like Beavis and Butthead “huh, huh, huh, I’m gonna score.” I mean like keeping track of points, status, etc.).
A “competition” is a game with an objective set of rules to determine a winner. For me, this rules out figure skating and other such “subjective” judging. It also makes for gray areas. Gymnastics, has a pretty good set of clearly defined rules (2 flips better than 1. Landing on feet better than landing on butt), but still has some subjectivity. Even some sports with subjective refereeing are suspect. This is what drives me nuts about soccer. A race is clearly a competition. Nobody argues about who won a race.
An “athletic endeavor” is any activity (game, or not) that require strength, stamina, power, or speed. Again, there is some gray here. The more of the above that is required, the more something can be called athletic. Gymnastics is clearly an athletic endeavor. Football is clearly one as well. Baseball barely qualifies, even with the posted photos. Bowling is on the edge. It requires one strong arm and body strength helps. Race car driving is pretty far down the list, though it requires endurance. Chess is at the bottom. Chess is a great competition. Not a sport.
A “skill endeavour” is any activity that requires coordination, concentration, strategic thinking, timing, decision making, etc. Bowling – definitely a competition requiring skill. Running a race – not quite so much. There is some technique to running but it’s all about speed and power.
For me, a “sport” must be both an objective “competition” and an “athletic endeavor.” Gray areas make it difficult to draw the line, but it for me the line is always drawn on one of these two points.
So – take any activity and ask – “is it a competition ?” and “does it require athleticism” ? Answer yes to both and you have a sport. Answer “no” to either and you have something else: either a non-athletic competition or an athletic endeavor that is not a competiton. Or, just a game.
Separately, you can ask “does it require skill?” Answering yes or no doesn’t change the answer to the question of “is it a sport.” Some sports require significant skill in addtion to athletic ability. Some sports don’t.
Just because something is not a sport doesn’t mean it isn’t exciting to watch, and doesn’t mean it doesn’t belong on a Sports netowrk. TV Sports are all about competition. Great competitions, whether athletic or not, make for good viewing. They are, after all, the original reality TV.
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June 22, 2010 at 10:45 PM #569581
CDMA ENG
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=Russell]Funny or sad…I don’t know.A good portion of the guys of an average high school football team can not beat the average “non-athlete” from the same school in the decathlon. Many of the girls would beat them. I guess with the plumping up of America that might not be true today, but it was when I was a kid. Good thing they had separate PE classes for athletes because a lot of them would get smoked by average guys in a multi-sport PE class… The fastest miler and half miler also tends to under perform in other athletic endeavors, but they are elite for what they do relative to the school population. The miler is more looked at like a geek, simply because he is skinny and not fat enough to be on the football team. The fastest miler would probably beat a lot of his football playing classmates in the decathlon and the soccer players certainly would.
Disclaimer: I wasn’t that fastest miler or a lineman at my school.[/quote]
Russell: Nope, you’re right. A good portion of our offensive line was “excused” when we used to do stadium runs (up and down the stairs at our field), namely because they couldn’t hack it.
However, the linebackers, defensive backs and offensive skill position players all participated in other sports, including Track & Field, baseball and wrestling. I don’t know about your high school’s wrestling program, but ours was physically brutal, including a huge amount of “roadwork” (i.e. distance running) and weight lifting. I knew a lot of guys from the cross-country and swim teams because I ran and swam with them (I swam rather than ran whenever I could because it was less punishing on the knees).[/quote]
Couldn’t be more true… You were a Ranger Allan… How many people did you know that got a performance drop because they couldn’t do one particular thing? They did well in everything else but couldn’t hack a run time or a swim time… But were fantastic in everything else? All of those guys were pretty much atheletes that failed because they weren’t well rounded.
The definition of a athelete is pretty broad this days but I heard the perfect definiton a couple of years back.
First you have to define what it is they do as a sport or a skill. I once heard that if you can smoke or drink while doing it than its a skill. Golf, Curling, and even some would say baseball is a skill.
If it is a skill then you are NOT an athelete!
CE
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June 22, 2010 at 10:45 PM #570087
CDMA ENG
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=Russell]Funny or sad…I don’t know.A good portion of the guys of an average high school football team can not beat the average “non-athlete” from the same school in the decathlon. Many of the girls would beat them. I guess with the plumping up of America that might not be true today, but it was when I was a kid. Good thing they had separate PE classes for athletes because a lot of them would get smoked by average guys in a multi-sport PE class… The fastest miler and half miler also tends to under perform in other athletic endeavors, but they are elite for what they do relative to the school population. The miler is more looked at like a geek, simply because he is skinny and not fat enough to be on the football team. The fastest miler would probably beat a lot of his football playing classmates in the decathlon and the soccer players certainly would.
Disclaimer: I wasn’t that fastest miler or a lineman at my school.[/quote]
Russell: Nope, you’re right. A good portion of our offensive line was “excused” when we used to do stadium runs (up and down the stairs at our field), namely because they couldn’t hack it.
However, the linebackers, defensive backs and offensive skill position players all participated in other sports, including Track & Field, baseball and wrestling. I don’t know about your high school’s wrestling program, but ours was physically brutal, including a huge amount of “roadwork” (i.e. distance running) and weight lifting. I knew a lot of guys from the cross-country and swim teams because I ran and swam with them (I swam rather than ran whenever I could because it was less punishing on the knees).[/quote]
Couldn’t be more true… You were a Ranger Allan… How many people did you know that got a performance drop because they couldn’t do one particular thing? They did well in everything else but couldn’t hack a run time or a swim time… But were fantastic in everything else? All of those guys were pretty much atheletes that failed because they weren’t well rounded.
The definition of a athelete is pretty broad this days but I heard the perfect definiton a couple of years back.
First you have to define what it is they do as a sport or a skill. I once heard that if you can smoke or drink while doing it than its a skill. Golf, Curling, and even some would say baseball is a skill.
If it is a skill then you are NOT an athelete!
CE
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June 22, 2010 at 10:45 PM #570192
CDMA ENG
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=Russell]Funny or sad…I don’t know.A good portion of the guys of an average high school football team can not beat the average “non-athlete” from the same school in the decathlon. Many of the girls would beat them. I guess with the plumping up of America that might not be true today, but it was when I was a kid. Good thing they had separate PE classes for athletes because a lot of them would get smoked by average guys in a multi-sport PE class… The fastest miler and half miler also tends to under perform in other athletic endeavors, but they are elite for what they do relative to the school population. The miler is more looked at like a geek, simply because he is skinny and not fat enough to be on the football team. The fastest miler would probably beat a lot of his football playing classmates in the decathlon and the soccer players certainly would.
Disclaimer: I wasn’t that fastest miler or a lineman at my school.[/quote]
Russell: Nope, you’re right. A good portion of our offensive line was “excused” when we used to do stadium runs (up and down the stairs at our field), namely because they couldn’t hack it.
However, the linebackers, defensive backs and offensive skill position players all participated in other sports, including Track & Field, baseball and wrestling. I don’t know about your high school’s wrestling program, but ours was physically brutal, including a huge amount of “roadwork” (i.e. distance running) and weight lifting. I knew a lot of guys from the cross-country and swim teams because I ran and swam with them (I swam rather than ran whenever I could because it was less punishing on the knees).[/quote]
Couldn’t be more true… You were a Ranger Allan… How many people did you know that got a performance drop because they couldn’t do one particular thing? They did well in everything else but couldn’t hack a run time or a swim time… But were fantastic in everything else? All of those guys were pretty much atheletes that failed because they weren’t well rounded.
The definition of a athelete is pretty broad this days but I heard the perfect definiton a couple of years back.
First you have to define what it is they do as a sport or a skill. I once heard that if you can smoke or drink while doing it than its a skill. Golf, Curling, and even some would say baseball is a skill.
If it is a skill then you are NOT an athelete!
CE
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June 22, 2010 at 10:45 PM #570477
CDMA ENG
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=Russell]Funny or sad…I don’t know.A good portion of the guys of an average high school football team can not beat the average “non-athlete” from the same school in the decathlon. Many of the girls would beat them. I guess with the plumping up of America that might not be true today, but it was when I was a kid. Good thing they had separate PE classes for athletes because a lot of them would get smoked by average guys in a multi-sport PE class… The fastest miler and half miler also tends to under perform in other athletic endeavors, but they are elite for what they do relative to the school population. The miler is more looked at like a geek, simply because he is skinny and not fat enough to be on the football team. The fastest miler would probably beat a lot of his football playing classmates in the decathlon and the soccer players certainly would.
Disclaimer: I wasn’t that fastest miler or a lineman at my school.[/quote]
Russell: Nope, you’re right. A good portion of our offensive line was “excused” when we used to do stadium runs (up and down the stairs at our field), namely because they couldn’t hack it.
However, the linebackers, defensive backs and offensive skill position players all participated in other sports, including Track & Field, baseball and wrestling. I don’t know about your high school’s wrestling program, but ours was physically brutal, including a huge amount of “roadwork” (i.e. distance running) and weight lifting. I knew a lot of guys from the cross-country and swim teams because I ran and swam with them (I swam rather than ran whenever I could because it was less punishing on the knees).[/quote]
Couldn’t be more true… You were a Ranger Allan… How many people did you know that got a performance drop because they couldn’t do one particular thing? They did well in everything else but couldn’t hack a run time or a swim time… But were fantastic in everything else? All of those guys were pretty much atheletes that failed because they weren’t well rounded.
The definition of a athelete is pretty broad this days but I heard the perfect definiton a couple of years back.
First you have to define what it is they do as a sport or a skill. I once heard that if you can smoke or drink while doing it than its a skill. Golf, Curling, and even some would say baseball is a skill.
If it is a skill then you are NOT an athelete!
CE
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June 22, 2010 at 9:54 AM #569179
Allan from Fallbrook
Participant[quote=Russell]Funny or sad…I don’t know.A good portion of the guys of an average high school football team can not beat the average “non-athlete” from the same school in the decathlon. Many of the girls would beat them. I guess with the plumping up of America that might not be true today, but it was when I was a kid. Good thing they had separate PE classes for athletes because a lot of them would get smoked by average guys in a multi-sport PE class… The fastest miler and half miler also tends to under perform in other athletic endeavors, but they are elite for what they do relative to the school population. The miler is more looked at like a geek, simply because he is skinny and not fat enough to be on the football team. The fastest miler would probably beat a lot of his football playing classmates in the decathlon and the soccer players certainly would.
Disclaimer: I wasn’t that fastest miler or a lineman at my school.[/quote]
Russell: Nope, you’re right. A good portion of our offensive line was “excused” when we used to do stadium runs (up and down the stairs at our field), namely because they couldn’t hack it.
However, the linebackers, defensive backs and offensive skill position players all participated in other sports, including Track & Field, baseball and wrestling. I don’t know about your high school’s wrestling program, but ours was physically brutal, including a huge amount of “roadwork” (i.e. distance running) and weight lifting. I knew a lot of guys from the cross-country and swim teams because I ran and swam with them (I swam rather than ran whenever I could because it was less punishing on the knees).
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June 22, 2010 at 9:54 AM #569685
Allan from Fallbrook
Participant[quote=Russell]Funny or sad…I don’t know.A good portion of the guys of an average high school football team can not beat the average “non-athlete” from the same school in the decathlon. Many of the girls would beat them. I guess with the plumping up of America that might not be true today, but it was when I was a kid. Good thing they had separate PE classes for athletes because a lot of them would get smoked by average guys in a multi-sport PE class… The fastest miler and half miler also tends to under perform in other athletic endeavors, but they are elite for what they do relative to the school population. The miler is more looked at like a geek, simply because he is skinny and not fat enough to be on the football team. The fastest miler would probably beat a lot of his football playing classmates in the decathlon and the soccer players certainly would.
Disclaimer: I wasn’t that fastest miler or a lineman at my school.[/quote]
Russell: Nope, you’re right. A good portion of our offensive line was “excused” when we used to do stadium runs (up and down the stairs at our field), namely because they couldn’t hack it.
However, the linebackers, defensive backs and offensive skill position players all participated in other sports, including Track & Field, baseball and wrestling. I don’t know about your high school’s wrestling program, but ours was physically brutal, including a huge amount of “roadwork” (i.e. distance running) and weight lifting. I knew a lot of guys from the cross-country and swim teams because I ran and swam with them (I swam rather than ran whenever I could because it was less punishing on the knees).
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June 22, 2010 at 9:54 AM #569791
Allan from Fallbrook
Participant[quote=Russell]Funny or sad…I don’t know.A good portion of the guys of an average high school football team can not beat the average “non-athlete” from the same school in the decathlon. Many of the girls would beat them. I guess with the plumping up of America that might not be true today, but it was when I was a kid. Good thing they had separate PE classes for athletes because a lot of them would get smoked by average guys in a multi-sport PE class… The fastest miler and half miler also tends to under perform in other athletic endeavors, but they are elite for what they do relative to the school population. The miler is more looked at like a geek, simply because he is skinny and not fat enough to be on the football team. The fastest miler would probably beat a lot of his football playing classmates in the decathlon and the soccer players certainly would.
Disclaimer: I wasn’t that fastest miler or a lineman at my school.[/quote]
Russell: Nope, you’re right. A good portion of our offensive line was “excused” when we used to do stadium runs (up and down the stairs at our field), namely because they couldn’t hack it.
However, the linebackers, defensive backs and offensive skill position players all participated in other sports, including Track & Field, baseball and wrestling. I don’t know about your high school’s wrestling program, but ours was physically brutal, including a huge amount of “roadwork” (i.e. distance running) and weight lifting. I knew a lot of guys from the cross-country and swim teams because I ran and swam with them (I swam rather than ran whenever I could because it was less punishing on the knees).
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June 22, 2010 at 9:54 AM #570073
Allan from Fallbrook
Participant[quote=Russell]Funny or sad…I don’t know.A good portion of the guys of an average high school football team can not beat the average “non-athlete” from the same school in the decathlon. Many of the girls would beat them. I guess with the plumping up of America that might not be true today, but it was when I was a kid. Good thing they had separate PE classes for athletes because a lot of them would get smoked by average guys in a multi-sport PE class… The fastest miler and half miler also tends to under perform in other athletic endeavors, but they are elite for what they do relative to the school population. The miler is more looked at like a geek, simply because he is skinny and not fat enough to be on the football team. The fastest miler would probably beat a lot of his football playing classmates in the decathlon and the soccer players certainly would.
Disclaimer: I wasn’t that fastest miler or a lineman at my school.[/quote]
Russell: Nope, you’re right. A good portion of our offensive line was “excused” when we used to do stadium runs (up and down the stairs at our field), namely because they couldn’t hack it.
However, the linebackers, defensive backs and offensive skill position players all participated in other sports, including Track & Field, baseball and wrestling. I don’t know about your high school’s wrestling program, but ours was physically brutal, including a huge amount of “roadwork” (i.e. distance running) and weight lifting. I knew a lot of guys from the cross-country and swim teams because I ran and swam with them (I swam rather than ran whenever I could because it was less punishing on the knees).
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June 22, 2010 at 9:58 AM #569088
Allan from Fallbrook
Participant[quote=Russell]The miler is more looked at like a geek, simply because he is skinny and not fat enough to be on the football team. The fastest miler would probably beat a lot of his football playing classmates in the decathlon and the soccer players certainly would.
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Russell: Also, that was probably true when you were in HS, or I was in HS, but not anymore. The “plumping” you refer to isn’t evident at the youth football level (where kids have to conform to weight limits) and the off-season workout programs are extremely demanding. My son, who is an offensive and defensive lineman, participates in the Prodigy program, which stresses not only wind endurance, but footwork, agility and “burst” speed. Football has grown ever faster and more complex and the kids playing it successfully now are specimens.
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June 22, 2010 at 9:58 AM #569184
Allan from Fallbrook
Participant[quote=Russell]The miler is more looked at like a geek, simply because he is skinny and not fat enough to be on the football team. The fastest miler would probably beat a lot of his football playing classmates in the decathlon and the soccer players certainly would.
[/quote]
Russell: Also, that was probably true when you were in HS, or I was in HS, but not anymore. The “plumping” you refer to isn’t evident at the youth football level (where kids have to conform to weight limits) and the off-season workout programs are extremely demanding. My son, who is an offensive and defensive lineman, participates in the Prodigy program, which stresses not only wind endurance, but footwork, agility and “burst” speed. Football has grown ever faster and more complex and the kids playing it successfully now are specimens.
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June 22, 2010 at 9:58 AM #569690
Allan from Fallbrook
Participant[quote=Russell]The miler is more looked at like a geek, simply because he is skinny and not fat enough to be on the football team. The fastest miler would probably beat a lot of his football playing classmates in the decathlon and the soccer players certainly would.
[/quote]
Russell: Also, that was probably true when you were in HS, or I was in HS, but not anymore. The “plumping” you refer to isn’t evident at the youth football level (where kids have to conform to weight limits) and the off-season workout programs are extremely demanding. My son, who is an offensive and defensive lineman, participates in the Prodigy program, which stresses not only wind endurance, but footwork, agility and “burst” speed. Football has grown ever faster and more complex and the kids playing it successfully now are specimens.
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June 22, 2010 at 9:58 AM #569796
Allan from Fallbrook
Participant[quote=Russell]The miler is more looked at like a geek, simply because he is skinny and not fat enough to be on the football team. The fastest miler would probably beat a lot of his football playing classmates in the decathlon and the soccer players certainly would.
[/quote]
Russell: Also, that was probably true when you were in HS, or I was in HS, but not anymore. The “plumping” you refer to isn’t evident at the youth football level (where kids have to conform to weight limits) and the off-season workout programs are extremely demanding. My son, who is an offensive and defensive lineman, participates in the Prodigy program, which stresses not only wind endurance, but footwork, agility and “burst” speed. Football has grown ever faster and more complex and the kids playing it successfully now are specimens.
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June 22, 2010 at 9:58 AM #570078
Allan from Fallbrook
Participant[quote=Russell]The miler is more looked at like a geek, simply because he is skinny and not fat enough to be on the football team. The fastest miler would probably beat a lot of his football playing classmates in the decathlon and the soccer players certainly would.
[/quote]
Russell: Also, that was probably true when you were in HS, or I was in HS, but not anymore. The “plumping” you refer to isn’t evident at the youth football level (where kids have to conform to weight limits) and the off-season workout programs are extremely demanding. My son, who is an offensive and defensive lineman, participates in the Prodigy program, which stresses not only wind endurance, but footwork, agility and “burst” speed. Football has grown ever faster and more complex and the kids playing it successfully now are specimens.
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June 22, 2010 at 9:45 AM #569169
NotCranky
Participant[quote=sdduuuude]I hate to say it, but those photos of famous american athletes is pretty damn funny. Still, I continue to be open-jawed by brian’s and Iforget’s inability to play nice with others in a thread where we are just talking about sports.[/quote]
Funny or sad…I don’t know.A good portion of the guys of an average high school football team can not beat the average “non-athlete” from the same school in the decathlon. Many of the girls would beat them. I guess with the plumping up of America that might not be true today, but it was when I was a kid. Good thing they had separate PE classes for athletes because a lot of them would get smoked by average guys in a multi-sport PE class… The fastest miler and half miler also tends to under perform in other athletic endeavors, but they are elite for what they do relative to the school population. The miler is more looked at like a geek, simply because he is skinny and not fat enough to be on the football team. The fastest miler would probably beat a lot of his football playing classmates in the decathlon and the soccer players certainly would.Disclaimer: I wasn’t that fastest miler or a lineman at my school.
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June 22, 2010 at 9:45 AM #569675
NotCranky
Participant[quote=sdduuuude]I hate to say it, but those photos of famous american athletes is pretty damn funny. Still, I continue to be open-jawed by brian’s and Iforget’s inability to play nice with others in a thread where we are just talking about sports.[/quote]
Funny or sad…I don’t know.A good portion of the guys of an average high school football team can not beat the average “non-athlete” from the same school in the decathlon. Many of the girls would beat them. I guess with the plumping up of America that might not be true today, but it was when I was a kid. Good thing they had separate PE classes for athletes because a lot of them would get smoked by average guys in a multi-sport PE class… The fastest miler and half miler also tends to under perform in other athletic endeavors, but they are elite for what they do relative to the school population. The miler is more looked at like a geek, simply because he is skinny and not fat enough to be on the football team. The fastest miler would probably beat a lot of his football playing classmates in the decathlon and the soccer players certainly would.Disclaimer: I wasn’t that fastest miler or a lineman at my school.
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June 22, 2010 at 9:45 AM #569781
NotCranky
Participant[quote=sdduuuude]I hate to say it, but those photos of famous american athletes is pretty damn funny. Still, I continue to be open-jawed by brian’s and Iforget’s inability to play nice with others in a thread where we are just talking about sports.[/quote]
Funny or sad…I don’t know.A good portion of the guys of an average high school football team can not beat the average “non-athlete” from the same school in the decathlon. Many of the girls would beat them. I guess with the plumping up of America that might not be true today, but it was when I was a kid. Good thing they had separate PE classes for athletes because a lot of them would get smoked by average guys in a multi-sport PE class… The fastest miler and half miler also tends to under perform in other athletic endeavors, but they are elite for what they do relative to the school population. The miler is more looked at like a geek, simply because he is skinny and not fat enough to be on the football team. The fastest miler would probably beat a lot of his football playing classmates in the decathlon and the soccer players certainly would.Disclaimer: I wasn’t that fastest miler or a lineman at my school.
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June 22, 2010 at 9:45 AM #570063
NotCranky
Participant[quote=sdduuuude]I hate to say it, but those photos of famous american athletes is pretty damn funny. Still, I continue to be open-jawed by brian’s and Iforget’s inability to play nice with others in a thread where we are just talking about sports.[/quote]
Funny or sad…I don’t know.A good portion of the guys of an average high school football team can not beat the average “non-athlete” from the same school in the decathlon. Many of the girls would beat them. I guess with the plumping up of America that might not be true today, but it was when I was a kid. Good thing they had separate PE classes for athletes because a lot of them would get smoked by average guys in a multi-sport PE class… The fastest miler and half miler also tends to under perform in other athletic endeavors, but they are elite for what they do relative to the school population. The miler is more looked at like a geek, simply because he is skinny and not fat enough to be on the football team. The fastest miler would probably beat a lot of his football playing classmates in the decathlon and the soccer players certainly would.Disclaimer: I wasn’t that fastest miler or a lineman at my school.
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June 22, 2010 at 10:21 AM #569093
desmond
ParticipantYes, a picture of Chris Farley imitating John Kruk on Saturday Night Live is funny:
http://snlarc.jt.org/imp.php?i=1031
How’s the French team doing, i forgot, they are going home, disgraced. That is funny.
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June 22, 2010 at 10:29 AM #569098
afx114
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afx114
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afx114
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afx114
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June 22, 2010 at 10:29 AM #570088
afx114
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June 22, 2010 at 10:21 AM #569189
desmond
ParticipantYes, a picture of Chris Farley imitating John Kruk on Saturday Night Live is funny:
http://snlarc.jt.org/imp.php?i=1031
How’s the French team doing, i forgot, they are going home, disgraced. That is funny.
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June 22, 2010 at 10:21 AM #569695
desmond
ParticipantYes, a picture of Chris Farley imitating John Kruk on Saturday Night Live is funny:
http://snlarc.jt.org/imp.php?i=1031
How’s the French team doing, i forgot, they are going home, disgraced. That is funny.
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June 22, 2010 at 10:21 AM #569800
desmond
ParticipantYes, a picture of Chris Farley imitating John Kruk on Saturday Night Live is funny:
http://snlarc.jt.org/imp.php?i=1031
How’s the French team doing, i forgot, they are going home, disgraced. That is funny.
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June 22, 2010 at 10:21 AM #570083
desmond
ParticipantYes, a picture of Chris Farley imitating John Kruk on Saturday Night Live is funny:
http://snlarc.jt.org/imp.php?i=1031
How’s the French team doing, i forgot, they are going home, disgraced. That is funny.
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June 22, 2010 at 9:13 AM #569149
sdduuuude
ParticipantI hate to say it, but those photos of famous american athletes is pretty damn funny. Still, I continue to be open-jawed by brian’s and Iforget’s inability to play nice with others in a thread where we are just talking about sports.
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June 22, 2010 at 9:13 AM #569656
sdduuuude
ParticipantI hate to say it, but those photos of famous american athletes is pretty damn funny. Still, I continue to be open-jawed by brian’s and Iforget’s inability to play nice with others in a thread where we are just talking about sports.
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June 22, 2010 at 9:13 AM #569761
sdduuuude
ParticipantI hate to say it, but those photos of famous american athletes is pretty damn funny. Still, I continue to be open-jawed by brian’s and Iforget’s inability to play nice with others in a thread where we are just talking about sports.
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June 22, 2010 at 9:13 AM #570043
sdduuuude
ParticipantI hate to say it, but those photos of famous american athletes is pretty damn funny. Still, I continue to be open-jawed by brian’s and Iforget’s inability to play nice with others in a thread where we are just talking about sports.
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June 22, 2010 at 10:38 AM #569106
briansd1
Guest[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
So, yeah, soccer is clearly superior to ALL American sports, and one clearly needs to be a sophisticated bon vivant to appreciate it. You know, as opposed to a stupid, racist, corrupt and fat American.[/quote]Who said anything about stupid, racist and corrupt?
You seem to have issues there.
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June 22, 2010 at 10:38 AM #569202
briansd1
Guest[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
So, yeah, soccer is clearly superior to ALL American sports, and one clearly needs to be a sophisticated bon vivant to appreciate it. You know, as opposed to a stupid, racist, corrupt and fat American.[/quote]Who said anything about stupid, racist and corrupt?
You seem to have issues there.
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June 22, 2010 at 10:38 AM #569709
briansd1
Guest[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
So, yeah, soccer is clearly superior to ALL American sports, and one clearly needs to be a sophisticated bon vivant to appreciate it. You know, as opposed to a stupid, racist, corrupt and fat American.[/quote]Who said anything about stupid, racist and corrupt?
You seem to have issues there.
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June 22, 2010 at 10:38 AM #569813
briansd1
Guest[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
So, yeah, soccer is clearly superior to ALL American sports, and one clearly needs to be a sophisticated bon vivant to appreciate it. You know, as opposed to a stupid, racist, corrupt and fat American.[/quote]Who said anything about stupid, racist and corrupt?
You seem to have issues there.
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June 22, 2010 at 10:38 AM #570096
briansd1
Guest[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
So, yeah, soccer is clearly superior to ALL American sports, and one clearly needs to be a sophisticated bon vivant to appreciate it. You know, as opposed to a stupid, racist, corrupt and fat American.[/quote]Who said anything about stupid, racist and corrupt?
You seem to have issues there.
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June 22, 2010 at 7:14 AM #569040
Allan from Fallbrook
Participant[quote=CardiffBaseball]Sophisticated? Hilarious.
Look I am doing my part. My foreign born wife was just impressed that I understood what it took for my Americanos to advance (win and in, or various other scenarios). My guess is you wouldn’t understand the implications of the West Coast offense vs. standard drop back.
No matter I really freakin’ hate comparing sports. Either a sport stands on its own or it doesn’t. There are very kids out there who actually learn how to hit a baseball who think it’s boring.
I am fine with World Cup right now it’s a nice diversion since the NBA (greatest overall athletes on the planet in my opinion) is over, baseball is in early stages and football camps are just getting underway. Perfect time for some world cup action. College baseball and that damn “ting” is not that appealing other than deciding whether I should push the kids a little harder to play post-high school.
I guess we are going to have to say screwing with the refs has become an art form. Maybe FIFA can consider adding another referee to the field?[/quote]
Cardiff: Dude. You’re arguing with a troll, and an ill-informed one at that. This particular troll posts inflammatory little missives designed to goad you into an emotional response and then vilifies you when you attempt to respond intelligently.
Football (or baseball or basketball) versus soccer is a non-issue. Everyone enjoys watching their own favorite sports and, let’s face it, for an athlete to perform at that level, regardless of sport, demands tremendous dedication and physicality (watching even a few minutes of the NFL combine would suffice to make this point). As far as the particular fanaticism that comes with American football, well, like you said, if you’ve ever played and/or coached, you’d understand it viscerally.
His mention of the word “hooligan” is especially funny, though, given that the term “soccer hooligan” is instantly recognizable to fans the world over: http://www.sirc.org/publik/football_violence.html (excellent paper on soccer hooliganism from Social Issues Research Center) and from Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_hooliganism
As far as soccer’s “superiority”, let’s not forget the virulent racism: http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,1798795,00.html, or the cheerful little neo-Nazis::http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,1798795,00.html
And, of course, there’s FIFA, one of the most scandal plagued organizations in modern sports: http://www.playthegame.org/knowledge-bank/articles/ripping-up-soccer-the-story-behind-the-fifa-scandals-1017.html
So, yeah, soccer is clearly superior to ALL American sports, and one clearly needs to be a sophisticated bon vivant to appreciate it. You know, as opposed to a stupid, racist, corrupt and fat American.
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June 22, 2010 at 7:14 AM #569547
Allan from Fallbrook
Participant[quote=CardiffBaseball]Sophisticated? Hilarious.
Look I am doing my part. My foreign born wife was just impressed that I understood what it took for my Americanos to advance (win and in, or various other scenarios). My guess is you wouldn’t understand the implications of the West Coast offense vs. standard drop back.
No matter I really freakin’ hate comparing sports. Either a sport stands on its own or it doesn’t. There are very kids out there who actually learn how to hit a baseball who think it’s boring.
I am fine with World Cup right now it’s a nice diversion since the NBA (greatest overall athletes on the planet in my opinion) is over, baseball is in early stages and football camps are just getting underway. Perfect time for some world cup action. College baseball and that damn “ting” is not that appealing other than deciding whether I should push the kids a little harder to play post-high school.
I guess we are going to have to say screwing with the refs has become an art form. Maybe FIFA can consider adding another referee to the field?[/quote]
Cardiff: Dude. You’re arguing with a troll, and an ill-informed one at that. This particular troll posts inflammatory little missives designed to goad you into an emotional response and then vilifies you when you attempt to respond intelligently.
Football (or baseball or basketball) versus soccer is a non-issue. Everyone enjoys watching their own favorite sports and, let’s face it, for an athlete to perform at that level, regardless of sport, demands tremendous dedication and physicality (watching even a few minutes of the NFL combine would suffice to make this point). As far as the particular fanaticism that comes with American football, well, like you said, if you’ve ever played and/or coached, you’d understand it viscerally.
His mention of the word “hooligan” is especially funny, though, given that the term “soccer hooligan” is instantly recognizable to fans the world over: http://www.sirc.org/publik/football_violence.html (excellent paper on soccer hooliganism from Social Issues Research Center) and from Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_hooliganism
As far as soccer’s “superiority”, let’s not forget the virulent racism: http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,1798795,00.html, or the cheerful little neo-Nazis::http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,1798795,00.html
And, of course, there’s FIFA, one of the most scandal plagued organizations in modern sports: http://www.playthegame.org/knowledge-bank/articles/ripping-up-soccer-the-story-behind-the-fifa-scandals-1017.html
So, yeah, soccer is clearly superior to ALL American sports, and one clearly needs to be a sophisticated bon vivant to appreciate it. You know, as opposed to a stupid, racist, corrupt and fat American.
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June 22, 2010 at 7:14 AM #569653
Allan from Fallbrook
Participant[quote=CardiffBaseball]Sophisticated? Hilarious.
Look I am doing my part. My foreign born wife was just impressed that I understood what it took for my Americanos to advance (win and in, or various other scenarios). My guess is you wouldn’t understand the implications of the West Coast offense vs. standard drop back.
No matter I really freakin’ hate comparing sports. Either a sport stands on its own or it doesn’t. There are very kids out there who actually learn how to hit a baseball who think it’s boring.
I am fine with World Cup right now it’s a nice diversion since the NBA (greatest overall athletes on the planet in my opinion) is over, baseball is in early stages and football camps are just getting underway. Perfect time for some world cup action. College baseball and that damn “ting” is not that appealing other than deciding whether I should push the kids a little harder to play post-high school.
I guess we are going to have to say screwing with the refs has become an art form. Maybe FIFA can consider adding another referee to the field?[/quote]
Cardiff: Dude. You’re arguing with a troll, and an ill-informed one at that. This particular troll posts inflammatory little missives designed to goad you into an emotional response and then vilifies you when you attempt to respond intelligently.
Football (or baseball or basketball) versus soccer is a non-issue. Everyone enjoys watching their own favorite sports and, let’s face it, for an athlete to perform at that level, regardless of sport, demands tremendous dedication and physicality (watching even a few minutes of the NFL combine would suffice to make this point). As far as the particular fanaticism that comes with American football, well, like you said, if you’ve ever played and/or coached, you’d understand it viscerally.
His mention of the word “hooligan” is especially funny, though, given that the term “soccer hooligan” is instantly recognizable to fans the world over: http://www.sirc.org/publik/football_violence.html (excellent paper on soccer hooliganism from Social Issues Research Center) and from Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_hooliganism
As far as soccer’s “superiority”, let’s not forget the virulent racism: http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,1798795,00.html, or the cheerful little neo-Nazis::http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,1798795,00.html
And, of course, there’s FIFA, one of the most scandal plagued organizations in modern sports: http://www.playthegame.org/knowledge-bank/articles/ripping-up-soccer-the-story-behind-the-fifa-scandals-1017.html
So, yeah, soccer is clearly superior to ALL American sports, and one clearly needs to be a sophisticated bon vivant to appreciate it. You know, as opposed to a stupid, racist, corrupt and fat American.
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June 22, 2010 at 7:14 AM #569935
Allan from Fallbrook
Participant[quote=CardiffBaseball]Sophisticated? Hilarious.
Look I am doing my part. My foreign born wife was just impressed that I understood what it took for my Americanos to advance (win and in, or various other scenarios). My guess is you wouldn’t understand the implications of the West Coast offense vs. standard drop back.
No matter I really freakin’ hate comparing sports. Either a sport stands on its own or it doesn’t. There are very kids out there who actually learn how to hit a baseball who think it’s boring.
I am fine with World Cup right now it’s a nice diversion since the NBA (greatest overall athletes on the planet in my opinion) is over, baseball is in early stages and football camps are just getting underway. Perfect time for some world cup action. College baseball and that damn “ting” is not that appealing other than deciding whether I should push the kids a little harder to play post-high school.
I guess we are going to have to say screwing with the refs has become an art form. Maybe FIFA can consider adding another referee to the field?[/quote]
Cardiff: Dude. You’re arguing with a troll, and an ill-informed one at that. This particular troll posts inflammatory little missives designed to goad you into an emotional response and then vilifies you when you attempt to respond intelligently.
Football (or baseball or basketball) versus soccer is a non-issue. Everyone enjoys watching their own favorite sports and, let’s face it, for an athlete to perform at that level, regardless of sport, demands tremendous dedication and physicality (watching even a few minutes of the NFL combine would suffice to make this point). As far as the particular fanaticism that comes with American football, well, like you said, if you’ve ever played and/or coached, you’d understand it viscerally.
His mention of the word “hooligan” is especially funny, though, given that the term “soccer hooligan” is instantly recognizable to fans the world over: http://www.sirc.org/publik/football_violence.html (excellent paper on soccer hooliganism from Social Issues Research Center) and from Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_hooliganism
As far as soccer’s “superiority”, let’s not forget the virulent racism: http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,1798795,00.html, or the cheerful little neo-Nazis::http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,1798795,00.html
And, of course, there’s FIFA, one of the most scandal plagued organizations in modern sports: http://www.playthegame.org/knowledge-bank/articles/ripping-up-soccer-the-story-behind-the-fifa-scandals-1017.html
So, yeah, soccer is clearly superior to ALL American sports, and one clearly needs to be a sophisticated bon vivant to appreciate it. You know, as opposed to a stupid, racist, corrupt and fat American.
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June 22, 2010 at 1:14 AM #569010
CardiffBaseball
ParticipantSophisticated? Hilarious.
Look I am doing my part. My foreign born wife was just impressed that I understood what it took for my Americanos to advance (win and in, or various other scenarios). My guess is you wouldn’t understand the implications of the West Coast offense vs. standard drop back.
No matter I really freakin’ hate comparing sports. Either a sport stands on its own or it doesn’t. There are very kids out there who actually learn how to hit a baseball who think it’s boring.
I am fine with World Cup right now it’s a nice diversion since the NBA (greatest overall athletes on the planet in my opinion) is over, baseball is in early stages and football camps are just getting underway. Perfect time for some world cup action. College baseball and that damn “ting” is not that appealing other than deciding whether I should push the kids a little harder to play post-high school.
I guess we are going to have to say screwing with the refs has become an art form. Maybe FIFA can consider adding another referee to the field?
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June 22, 2010 at 1:14 AM #569517
CardiffBaseball
ParticipantSophisticated? Hilarious.
Look I am doing my part. My foreign born wife was just impressed that I understood what it took for my Americanos to advance (win and in, or various other scenarios). My guess is you wouldn’t understand the implications of the West Coast offense vs. standard drop back.
No matter I really freakin’ hate comparing sports. Either a sport stands on its own or it doesn’t. There are very kids out there who actually learn how to hit a baseball who think it’s boring.
I am fine with World Cup right now it’s a nice diversion since the NBA (greatest overall athletes on the planet in my opinion) is over, baseball is in early stages and football camps are just getting underway. Perfect time for some world cup action. College baseball and that damn “ting” is not that appealing other than deciding whether I should push the kids a little harder to play post-high school.
I guess we are going to have to say screwing with the refs has become an art form. Maybe FIFA can consider adding another referee to the field?
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June 22, 2010 at 1:14 AM #569623
CardiffBaseball
ParticipantSophisticated? Hilarious.
Look I am doing my part. My foreign born wife was just impressed that I understood what it took for my Americanos to advance (win and in, or various other scenarios). My guess is you wouldn’t understand the implications of the West Coast offense vs. standard drop back.
No matter I really freakin’ hate comparing sports. Either a sport stands on its own or it doesn’t. There are very kids out there who actually learn how to hit a baseball who think it’s boring.
I am fine with World Cup right now it’s a nice diversion since the NBA (greatest overall athletes on the planet in my opinion) is over, baseball is in early stages and football camps are just getting underway. Perfect time for some world cup action. College baseball and that damn “ting” is not that appealing other than deciding whether I should push the kids a little harder to play post-high school.
I guess we are going to have to say screwing with the refs has become an art form. Maybe FIFA can consider adding another referee to the field?
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June 22, 2010 at 1:14 AM #569906
CardiffBaseball
ParticipantSophisticated? Hilarious.
Look I am doing my part. My foreign born wife was just impressed that I understood what it took for my Americanos to advance (win and in, or various other scenarios). My guess is you wouldn’t understand the implications of the West Coast offense vs. standard drop back.
No matter I really freakin’ hate comparing sports. Either a sport stands on its own or it doesn’t. There are very kids out there who actually learn how to hit a baseball who think it’s boring.
I am fine with World Cup right now it’s a nice diversion since the NBA (greatest overall athletes on the planet in my opinion) is over, baseball is in early stages and football camps are just getting underway. Perfect time for some world cup action. College baseball and that damn “ting” is not that appealing other than deciding whether I should push the kids a little harder to play post-high school.
I guess we are going to have to say screwing with the refs has become an art form. Maybe FIFA can consider adding another referee to the field?
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June 21, 2010 at 10:00 PM #568885
Anonymous
Guest[quote=weberlin]Perhaps poor reffing is built into professional soccer. You know, to make up for that fact that the sport is so God awfully painfully boring to watch.[/quote]
You’re just not sophisticated enough to appreciate the nuances. You should probably stick to American pigskin football with it’s 3 yards and a cloud of dust or American basketball where hooligan fans destroy their city after a victory.
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June 21, 2010 at 10:00 PM #569395
Anonymous
Guest[quote=weberlin]Perhaps poor reffing is built into professional soccer. You know, to make up for that fact that the sport is so God awfully painfully boring to watch.[/quote]
You’re just not sophisticated enough to appreciate the nuances. You should probably stick to American pigskin football with it’s 3 yards and a cloud of dust or American basketball where hooligan fans destroy their city after a victory.
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June 21, 2010 at 10:00 PM #569500
Anonymous
Guest[quote=weberlin]Perhaps poor reffing is built into professional soccer. You know, to make up for that fact that the sport is so God awfully painfully boring to watch.[/quote]
You’re just not sophisticated enough to appreciate the nuances. You should probably stick to American pigskin football with it’s 3 yards and a cloud of dust or American basketball where hooligan fans destroy their city after a victory.
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June 21, 2010 at 10:00 PM #569784
Anonymous
Guest[quote=weberlin]Perhaps poor reffing is built into professional soccer. You know, to make up for that fact that the sport is so God awfully painfully boring to watch.[/quote]
You’re just not sophisticated enough to appreciate the nuances. You should probably stick to American pigskin football with it’s 3 yards and a cloud of dust or American basketball where hooligan fans destroy their city after a victory.
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June 21, 2010 at 9:43 PM #568843
weberlin
ParticipantPerhaps poor reffing is built into professional soccer. You know, to make up for that fact that the sport is so God awfully painfully boring to watch.
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June 21, 2010 at 9:43 PM #569352
weberlin
ParticipantPerhaps poor reffing is built into professional soccer. You know, to make up for that fact that the sport is so God awfully painfully boring to watch.
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June 21, 2010 at 9:43 PM #569458
weberlin
ParticipantPerhaps poor reffing is built into professional soccer. You know, to make up for that fact that the sport is so God awfully painfully boring to watch.
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June 21, 2010 at 9:43 PM #569742
weberlin
ParticipantPerhaps poor reffing is built into professional soccer. You know, to make up for that fact that the sport is so God awfully painfully boring to watch.
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June 22, 2010 at 9:26 AM #569063
sdduuuude
ParticipantSo, I have watched quite a bit of soccer my whole life, though when I was young, there was very little to see. I even had to watch World CUp games on Mexican TV in the 80’s.
Anyway, what I like most about soccer is the tournament formats themselves. The games themselves are a basic element in format that makes every goal important. I agree that sometimes games can be very boring, but within the context of the group standings, it makes watching the games fun. Also, you have to understand that there is alot of tension in soccer. When one goal can affect the destiny of 4 different teams, and goals are hard to come by, it makes for some serious suspenseful. If you don’t like or appreciate that tension, it isn’t for you.
I also think soccer-watching newbies get sucked in to watching the first set of group games, and they are invariably dull because many teams play cautiously. For newbies, I’d recommend not watching any games until the second group game. The second set of games was pretty awesome. In the third set of games, it is best to watch the games in the tighter groups.
The US and England games tomorrow will make for a good ride, for sure. The only way they can both move on is for them both to win.
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June 23, 2010 at 10:38 AM #569775
sdduuuude
Participant[quote=sdduuuude]Also, you have to understand that there is alot of tension in soccer. When one goal can affect the destiny of 4 different teams, and goals are hard to come by, it makes for some serious suspense.[/quote]
Told ya.
[quote=sdduuuude]The US and England games tomorrow will make for a good ride, for sure.[/quote]
And again.
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June 23, 2010 at 11:10 AM #569867
CardiffBaseball
ParticipantAwesome goal….
Still not a fan of the sport, but definitely a fan of the USA. Of course when it gets down to it, I am usually just a fan of my team and don’t watch random games of other teams playing (if France played Albania I wouldn’t be tuned in).
Take the NFL… For three full seasons the NFL was banned in CardiffBaseball’s household. I don’t care if guests were over visiting if you turned on the NFL on my TV, you were under threat of immediate expulsion from my house. Since I am mellow, peaceful and generally not passionate about any damn thing, most people gave me rope on this one and knew that I was damned serious about it. You turn on the NFL you will get run and I didn’t watch a single Super Bowl though I do recall being stuck at a SB party, I just stayed away from the tele…
(The 1996-1998 seasons).
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June 23, 2010 at 11:10 AM #569961
CardiffBaseball
ParticipantAwesome goal….
Still not a fan of the sport, but definitely a fan of the USA. Of course when it gets down to it, I am usually just a fan of my team and don’t watch random games of other teams playing (if France played Albania I wouldn’t be tuned in).
Take the NFL… For three full seasons the NFL was banned in CardiffBaseball’s household. I don’t care if guests were over visiting if you turned on the NFL on my TV, you were under threat of immediate expulsion from my house. Since I am mellow, peaceful and generally not passionate about any damn thing, most people gave me rope on this one and knew that I was damned serious about it. You turn on the NFL you will get run and I didn’t watch a single Super Bowl though I do recall being stuck at a SB party, I just stayed away from the tele…
(The 1996-1998 seasons).
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June 23, 2010 at 11:10 AM #570470
CardiffBaseball
ParticipantAwesome goal….
Still not a fan of the sport, but definitely a fan of the USA. Of course when it gets down to it, I am usually just a fan of my team and don’t watch random games of other teams playing (if France played Albania I wouldn’t be tuned in).
Take the NFL… For three full seasons the NFL was banned in CardiffBaseball’s household. I don’t care if guests were over visiting if you turned on the NFL on my TV, you were under threat of immediate expulsion from my house. Since I am mellow, peaceful and generally not passionate about any damn thing, most people gave me rope on this one and knew that I was damned serious about it. You turn on the NFL you will get run and I didn’t watch a single Super Bowl though I do recall being stuck at a SB party, I just stayed away from the tele…
(The 1996-1998 seasons).
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June 23, 2010 at 11:10 AM #570573
CardiffBaseball
ParticipantAwesome goal….
Still not a fan of the sport, but definitely a fan of the USA. Of course when it gets down to it, I am usually just a fan of my team and don’t watch random games of other teams playing (if France played Albania I wouldn’t be tuned in).
Take the NFL… For three full seasons the NFL was banned in CardiffBaseball’s household. I don’t care if guests were over visiting if you turned on the NFL on my TV, you were under threat of immediate expulsion from my house. Since I am mellow, peaceful and generally not passionate about any damn thing, most people gave me rope on this one and knew that I was damned serious about it. You turn on the NFL you will get run and I didn’t watch a single Super Bowl though I do recall being stuck at a SB party, I just stayed away from the tele…
(The 1996-1998 seasons).
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June 23, 2010 at 11:10 AM #570860
CardiffBaseball
ParticipantAwesome goal….
Still not a fan of the sport, but definitely a fan of the USA. Of course when it gets down to it, I am usually just a fan of my team and don’t watch random games of other teams playing (if France played Albania I wouldn’t be tuned in).
Take the NFL… For three full seasons the NFL was banned in CardiffBaseball’s household. I don’t care if guests were over visiting if you turned on the NFL on my TV, you were under threat of immediate expulsion from my house. Since I am mellow, peaceful and generally not passionate about any damn thing, most people gave me rope on this one and knew that I was damned serious about it. You turn on the NFL you will get run and I didn’t watch a single Super Bowl though I do recall being stuck at a SB party, I just stayed away from the tele…
(The 1996-1998 seasons).
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June 23, 2010 at 10:38 AM #569868
sdduuuude
Participant[quote=sdduuuude]Also, you have to understand that there is alot of tension in soccer. When one goal can affect the destiny of 4 different teams, and goals are hard to come by, it makes for some serious suspense.[/quote]
Told ya.
[quote=sdduuuude]The US and England games tomorrow will make for a good ride, for sure.[/quote]
And again.
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June 23, 2010 at 10:38 AM #570378
sdduuuude
Participant[quote=sdduuuude]Also, you have to understand that there is alot of tension in soccer. When one goal can affect the destiny of 4 different teams, and goals are hard to come by, it makes for some serious suspense.[/quote]
Told ya.
[quote=sdduuuude]The US and England games tomorrow will make for a good ride, for sure.[/quote]
And again.
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June 23, 2010 at 10:38 AM #570480
sdduuuude
Participant[quote=sdduuuude]Also, you have to understand that there is alot of tension in soccer. When one goal can affect the destiny of 4 different teams, and goals are hard to come by, it makes for some serious suspense.[/quote]
Told ya.
[quote=sdduuuude]The US and England games tomorrow will make for a good ride, for sure.[/quote]
And again.
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June 23, 2010 at 10:38 AM #570765
sdduuuude
Participant[quote=sdduuuude]Also, you have to understand that there is alot of tension in soccer. When one goal can affect the destiny of 4 different teams, and goals are hard to come by, it makes for some serious suspense.[/quote]
Told ya.
[quote=sdduuuude]The US and England games tomorrow will make for a good ride, for sure.[/quote]
And again.
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June 22, 2010 at 9:26 AM #569159
sdduuuude
ParticipantSo, I have watched quite a bit of soccer my whole life, though when I was young, there was very little to see. I even had to watch World CUp games on Mexican TV in the 80’s.
Anyway, what I like most about soccer is the tournament formats themselves. The games themselves are a basic element in format that makes every goal important. I agree that sometimes games can be very boring, but within the context of the group standings, it makes watching the games fun. Also, you have to understand that there is alot of tension in soccer. When one goal can affect the destiny of 4 different teams, and goals are hard to come by, it makes for some serious suspenseful. If you don’t like or appreciate that tension, it isn’t for you.
I also think soccer-watching newbies get sucked in to watching the first set of group games, and they are invariably dull because many teams play cautiously. For newbies, I’d recommend not watching any games until the second group game. The second set of games was pretty awesome. In the third set of games, it is best to watch the games in the tighter groups.
The US and England games tomorrow will make for a good ride, for sure. The only way they can both move on is for them both to win.
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June 22, 2010 at 9:26 AM #569665
sdduuuude
ParticipantSo, I have watched quite a bit of soccer my whole life, though when I was young, there was very little to see. I even had to watch World CUp games on Mexican TV in the 80’s.
Anyway, what I like most about soccer is the tournament formats themselves. The games themselves are a basic element in format that makes every goal important. I agree that sometimes games can be very boring, but within the context of the group standings, it makes watching the games fun. Also, you have to understand that there is alot of tension in soccer. When one goal can affect the destiny of 4 different teams, and goals are hard to come by, it makes for some serious suspenseful. If you don’t like or appreciate that tension, it isn’t for you.
I also think soccer-watching newbies get sucked in to watching the first set of group games, and they are invariably dull because many teams play cautiously. For newbies, I’d recommend not watching any games until the second group game. The second set of games was pretty awesome. In the third set of games, it is best to watch the games in the tighter groups.
The US and England games tomorrow will make for a good ride, for sure. The only way they can both move on is for them both to win.
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June 22, 2010 at 9:26 AM #569771
sdduuuude
ParticipantSo, I have watched quite a bit of soccer my whole life, though when I was young, there was very little to see. I even had to watch World CUp games on Mexican TV in the 80’s.
Anyway, what I like most about soccer is the tournament formats themselves. The games themselves are a basic element in format that makes every goal important. I agree that sometimes games can be very boring, but within the context of the group standings, it makes watching the games fun. Also, you have to understand that there is alot of tension in soccer. When one goal can affect the destiny of 4 different teams, and goals are hard to come by, it makes for some serious suspenseful. If you don’t like or appreciate that tension, it isn’t for you.
I also think soccer-watching newbies get sucked in to watching the first set of group games, and they are invariably dull because many teams play cautiously. For newbies, I’d recommend not watching any games until the second group game. The second set of games was pretty awesome. In the third set of games, it is best to watch the games in the tighter groups.
The US and England games tomorrow will make for a good ride, for sure. The only way they can both move on is for them both to win.
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June 22, 2010 at 9:26 AM #570053
sdduuuude
ParticipantSo, I have watched quite a bit of soccer my whole life, though when I was young, there was very little to see. I even had to watch World CUp games on Mexican TV in the 80’s.
Anyway, what I like most about soccer is the tournament formats themselves. The games themselves are a basic element in format that makes every goal important. I agree that sometimes games can be very boring, but within the context of the group standings, it makes watching the games fun. Also, you have to understand that there is alot of tension in soccer. When one goal can affect the destiny of 4 different teams, and goals are hard to come by, it makes for some serious suspenseful. If you don’t like or appreciate that tension, it isn’t for you.
I also think soccer-watching newbies get sucked in to watching the first set of group games, and they are invariably dull because many teams play cautiously. For newbies, I’d recommend not watching any games until the second group game. The second set of games was pretty awesome. In the third set of games, it is best to watch the games in the tighter groups.
The US and England games tomorrow will make for a good ride, for sure. The only way they can both move on is for them both to win.
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June 22, 2010 at 8:29 PM #569409
Coronita
ParticipantHijack…
In case you missed it, IForget just just got red carded….
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June 22, 2010 at 8:45 PM #569424
NotCranky
Participant[quote=flu]Hijack…
In case you missed it, IForget just just got red carded….
[/quote]
Na na na na
Na na na na
Hey heyaaaa!
Goodbye. -
June 22, 2010 at 8:45 PM #569518
NotCranky
Participant[quote=flu]Hijack…
In case you missed it, IForget just just got red carded….
[/quote]
Na na na na
Na na na na
Hey heyaaaa!
Goodbye. -
June 22, 2010 at 8:45 PM #570025
NotCranky
Participant[quote=flu]Hijack…
In case you missed it, IForget just just got red carded….
[/quote]
Na na na na
Na na na na
Hey heyaaaa!
Goodbye. -
June 22, 2010 at 8:45 PM #570129
NotCranky
Participant[quote=flu]Hijack…
In case you missed it, IForget just just got red carded….
[/quote]
Na na na na
Na na na na
Hey heyaaaa!
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June 22, 2010 at 8:45 PM #570414
NotCranky
Participant[quote=flu]Hijack…
In case you missed it, IForget just just got red carded….
[/quote]
Na na na na
Na na na na
Hey heyaaaa!
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June 22, 2010 at 9:04 PM #569439
afx114
Participant[quote=flu]In case you missed it, IForget just just got red carded….[/quote]
Was it in the box? Who is gonna take the penalty kick?
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June 22, 2010 at 9:04 PM #569533
afx114
Participant[quote=flu]In case you missed it, IForget just just got red carded….[/quote]
Was it in the box? Who is gonna take the penalty kick?
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June 22, 2010 at 9:04 PM #570040
afx114
Participant[quote=flu]In case you missed it, IForget just just got red carded….[/quote]
Was it in the box? Who is gonna take the penalty kick?
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June 22, 2010 at 9:04 PM #570144
afx114
Participant[quote=flu]In case you missed it, IForget just just got red carded….[/quote]
Was it in the box? Who is gonna take the penalty kick?
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June 22, 2010 at 9:04 PM #570429
afx114
Participant[quote=flu]In case you missed it, IForget just just got red carded….[/quote]
Was it in the box? Who is gonna take the penalty kick?
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June 22, 2010 at 8:29 PM #569504
Coronita
ParticipantHijack…
In case you missed it, IForget just just got red carded….
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June 22, 2010 at 8:29 PM #570010
Coronita
ParticipantHijack…
In case you missed it, IForget just just got red carded….
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June 22, 2010 at 8:29 PM #570115
Coronita
ParticipantHijack…
In case you missed it, IForget just just got red carded….
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June 22, 2010 at 8:29 PM #570400
Coronita
ParticipantHijack…
In case you missed it, IForget just just got red carded….
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June 23, 2010 at 9:11 AM #569725
Diego Mamani
ParticipantTeam USA finished the first stage undefeated, first in its group ahead of England, and eliminated Slovenia in the process. Go USA!!!
This was really a photo finish for Group C
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June 23, 2010 at 9:16 AM #569730
CDMA ENG
ParticipantI was just taking off my USA shirt and throwing on my Italian kit when they scored.
Thank you Donovan for providing a goal that could not be disputed!
CE
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June 24, 2010 at 9:34 AM #570452
sdduuuude
Participant[quote=CDMA ENG]I was just taking off my USA shirt and throwing on my Italian kit … [/quote]
OOOOOOOO. Bad choice there. You don’t have a Slovakia kit, by any chance – do you?
Europe not looking so hot. North and South America kicking some serious World Cup boodie.
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June 24, 2010 at 12:41 PM #570632
streak
ParticipantI went to the game. The support for the USA team was amazing as was the game except for the number of yellow cards due to the dirty play of the Slovenians.
I was surprised that nobody was sent off.
I took a bunch of pics, see here
http://picasaweb.google.com/dunkeldwest/20100618Fifa2010USASlov?feat=directlink
and here
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1034&message=35617121
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June 24, 2010 at 3:31 PM #570883
sdduuuude
Participantstreak – that is really neat ! I’m hoping the US gets the event here in 2018 or 2022. If not, I’ll pick a year and go.
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June 25, 2010 at 1:13 AM #571262
streak
Participant[quote=sdduuuude]streak – that is really neat ! I’m hoping the US gets the event here in 2018 or 2022. If not, I’ll pick a year and go.[/quote]
Thanks. I will also be going to the 1/4 final on the 2nd July.
I am not a follower of soccer at all, but a once in a lifetime opportunity to see it live was truly amazing.
Living in South Africa now but moving to SD in August. It will be great if USA gets to host it.
Clinton was so impressed he has decided to stay on here a few more days to watch more of the games live.
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June 25, 2010 at 1:13 AM #571359
streak
Participant[quote=sdduuuude]streak – that is really neat ! I’m hoping the US gets the event here in 2018 or 2022. If not, I’ll pick a year and go.[/quote]
Thanks. I will also be going to the 1/4 final on the 2nd July.
I am not a follower of soccer at all, but a once in a lifetime opportunity to see it live was truly amazing.
Living in South Africa now but moving to SD in August. It will be great if USA gets to host it.
Clinton was so impressed he has decided to stay on here a few more days to watch more of the games live.
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June 25, 2010 at 1:13 AM #571877
streak
Participant[quote=sdduuuude]streak – that is really neat ! I’m hoping the US gets the event here in 2018 or 2022. If not, I’ll pick a year and go.[/quote]
Thanks. I will also be going to the 1/4 final on the 2nd July.
I am not a follower of soccer at all, but a once in a lifetime opportunity to see it live was truly amazing.
Living in South Africa now but moving to SD in August. It will be great if USA gets to host it.
Clinton was so impressed he has decided to stay on here a few more days to watch more of the games live.
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June 25, 2010 at 1:13 AM #571985
streak
Participant[quote=sdduuuude]streak – that is really neat ! I’m hoping the US gets the event here in 2018 or 2022. If not, I’ll pick a year and go.[/quote]
Thanks. I will also be going to the 1/4 final on the 2nd July.
I am not a follower of soccer at all, but a once in a lifetime opportunity to see it live was truly amazing.
Living in South Africa now but moving to SD in August. It will be great if USA gets to host it.
Clinton was so impressed he has decided to stay on here a few more days to watch more of the games live.
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June 25, 2010 at 1:13 AM #572275
streak
Participant[quote=sdduuuude]streak – that is really neat ! I’m hoping the US gets the event here in 2018 or 2022. If not, I’ll pick a year and go.[/quote]
Thanks. I will also be going to the 1/4 final on the 2nd July.
I am not a follower of soccer at all, but a once in a lifetime opportunity to see it live was truly amazing.
Living in South Africa now but moving to SD in August. It will be great if USA gets to host it.
Clinton was so impressed he has decided to stay on here a few more days to watch more of the games live.
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June 24, 2010 at 3:31 PM #570980
sdduuuude
Participantstreak – that is really neat ! I’m hoping the US gets the event here in 2018 or 2022. If not, I’ll pick a year and go.
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June 24, 2010 at 3:31 PM #571497
sdduuuude
Participantstreak – that is really neat ! I’m hoping the US gets the event here in 2018 or 2022. If not, I’ll pick a year and go.
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June 24, 2010 at 3:31 PM #571603
sdduuuude
Participantstreak – that is really neat ! I’m hoping the US gets the event here in 2018 or 2022. If not, I’ll pick a year and go.
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June 24, 2010 at 3:31 PM #571896
sdduuuude
Participantstreak – that is really neat ! I’m hoping the US gets the event here in 2018 or 2022. If not, I’ll pick a year and go.
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June 24, 2010 at 12:41 PM #570728
streak
ParticipantI went to the game. The support for the USA team was amazing as was the game except for the number of yellow cards due to the dirty play of the Slovenians.
I was surprised that nobody was sent off.
I took a bunch of pics, see here
http://picasaweb.google.com/dunkeldwest/20100618Fifa2010USASlov?feat=directlink
and here
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1034&message=35617121
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June 24, 2010 at 12:41 PM #571241
streak
ParticipantI went to the game. The support for the USA team was amazing as was the game except for the number of yellow cards due to the dirty play of the Slovenians.
I was surprised that nobody was sent off.
I took a bunch of pics, see here
http://picasaweb.google.com/dunkeldwest/20100618Fifa2010USASlov?feat=directlink
and here
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1034&message=35617121
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June 24, 2010 at 12:41 PM #571350
streak
ParticipantI went to the game. The support for the USA team was amazing as was the game except for the number of yellow cards due to the dirty play of the Slovenians.
I was surprised that nobody was sent off.
I took a bunch of pics, see here
http://picasaweb.google.com/dunkeldwest/20100618Fifa2010USASlov?feat=directlink
and here
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1034&message=35617121
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June 24, 2010 at 12:41 PM #571639
streak
ParticipantI went to the game. The support for the USA team was amazing as was the game except for the number of yellow cards due to the dirty play of the Slovenians.
I was surprised that nobody was sent off.
I took a bunch of pics, see here
http://picasaweb.google.com/dunkeldwest/20100618Fifa2010USASlov?feat=directlink
and here
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1034&message=35617121
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June 24, 2010 at 3:11 PM #570853
CDMA ENG
Participant[quote=sdduuuude][quote=CDMA ENG]I was just taking off my USA shirt and throwing on my Italian kit … [/quote]
OOOOOOOO. Bad choice there. You don’t have a Slovakia kit, by any chance – do you?
Europe not looking so hot. North and South America kicking some serious World Cup boodie.[/quote]
Here is my final WC prediciton. The World Cup will be won by a country that I cannot point to on map!
CE
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June 24, 2010 at 3:29 PM #570878
sdduuuude
ParticipantSo – anyone but the US, huh ?
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June 25, 2010 at 7:37 AM #571308
CDMA ENG
Participant[quote=sdduuuude]So – anyone but the US, huh ?[/quote]
My geography is better than most…
Knucklehead!
CE
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June 25, 2010 at 7:37 AM #571404
CDMA ENG
Participant[quote=sdduuuude]So – anyone but the US, huh ?[/quote]
My geography is better than most…
Knucklehead!
CE
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June 25, 2010 at 7:37 AM #571923
CDMA ENG
Participant[quote=sdduuuude]So – anyone but the US, huh ?[/quote]
My geography is better than most…
Knucklehead!
CE
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June 25, 2010 at 7:37 AM #572031
CDMA ENG
Participant[quote=sdduuuude]So – anyone but the US, huh ?[/quote]
My geography is better than most…
Knucklehead!
CE
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June 25, 2010 at 7:37 AM #572321
CDMA ENG
Participant[quote=sdduuuude]So – anyone but the US, huh ?[/quote]
My geography is better than most…
Knucklehead!
CE
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June 24, 2010 at 3:29 PM #570975
sdduuuude
ParticipantSo – anyone but the US, huh ?
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June 24, 2010 at 3:29 PM #571492
sdduuuude
ParticipantSo – anyone but the US, huh ?
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June 24, 2010 at 3:29 PM #571598
sdduuuude
ParticipantSo – anyone but the US, huh ?
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June 24, 2010 at 3:29 PM #571891
sdduuuude
ParticipantSo – anyone but the US, huh ?
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June 24, 2010 at 5:13 PM #570978
Diego Mamani
Participant[quote]Here is my final WC prediciton. The World Cup will be won by a country that I cannot point to on map! CE[/quote]
Ever since the very first World Cup was played in Uruguay in 1930, no European team has won the cup when the games were outside of Europe. Accordingly, and since in data I trust… I predict a South American winner. Either Argentina or Brazil (in that order), and both are big enough to point on a map!
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June 24, 2010 at 7:55 PM #571098
SD Transplant
Participantquick prediction 🙂
ARGENTINA will win …….that’s that
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June 24, 2010 at 7:55 PM #571193
SD Transplant
Participantquick prediction 🙂
ARGENTINA will win …….that’s that
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June 24, 2010 at 7:55 PM #571712
SD Transplant
Participantquick prediction 🙂
ARGENTINA will win …….that’s that
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June 24, 2010 at 7:55 PM #571819
SD Transplant
Participantquick prediction 🙂
ARGENTINA will win …….that’s that
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June 24, 2010 at 7:55 PM #572113
SD Transplant
Participantquick prediction 🙂
ARGENTINA will win …….that’s that
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June 24, 2010 at 5:13 PM #571074
Diego Mamani
Participant[quote]Here is my final WC prediciton. The World Cup will be won by a country that I cannot point to on map! CE[/quote]
Ever since the very first World Cup was played in Uruguay in 1930, no European team has won the cup when the games were outside of Europe. Accordingly, and since in data I trust… I predict a South American winner. Either Argentina or Brazil (in that order), and both are big enough to point on a map!
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June 24, 2010 at 5:13 PM #571592
Diego Mamani
Participant[quote]Here is my final WC prediciton. The World Cup will be won by a country that I cannot point to on map! CE[/quote]
Ever since the very first World Cup was played in Uruguay in 1930, no European team has won the cup when the games were outside of Europe. Accordingly, and since in data I trust… I predict a South American winner. Either Argentina or Brazil (in that order), and both are big enough to point on a map!
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June 24, 2010 at 5:13 PM #571698
Diego Mamani
Participant[quote]Here is my final WC prediciton. The World Cup will be won by a country that I cannot point to on map! CE[/quote]
Ever since the very first World Cup was played in Uruguay in 1930, no European team has won the cup when the games were outside of Europe. Accordingly, and since in data I trust… I predict a South American winner. Either Argentina or Brazil (in that order), and both are big enough to point on a map!
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June 24, 2010 at 5:13 PM #571992
Diego Mamani
Participant[quote]Here is my final WC prediciton. The World Cup will be won by a country that I cannot point to on map! CE[/quote]
Ever since the very first World Cup was played in Uruguay in 1930, no European team has won the cup when the games were outside of Europe. Accordingly, and since in data I trust… I predict a South American winner. Either Argentina or Brazil (in that order), and both are big enough to point on a map!
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June 24, 2010 at 3:11 PM #570950
CDMA ENG
Participant[quote=sdduuuude][quote=CDMA ENG]I was just taking off my USA shirt and throwing on my Italian kit … [/quote]
OOOOOOOO. Bad choice there. You don’t have a Slovakia kit, by any chance – do you?
Europe not looking so hot. North and South America kicking some serious World Cup boodie.[/quote]
Here is my final WC prediciton. The World Cup will be won by a country that I cannot point to on map!
CE
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June 24, 2010 at 3:11 PM #571467
CDMA ENG
Participant[quote=sdduuuude][quote=CDMA ENG]I was just taking off my USA shirt and throwing on my Italian kit … [/quote]
OOOOOOOO. Bad choice there. You don’t have a Slovakia kit, by any chance – do you?
Europe not looking so hot. North and South America kicking some serious World Cup boodie.[/quote]
Here is my final WC prediciton. The World Cup will be won by a country that I cannot point to on map!
CE
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June 24, 2010 at 3:11 PM #571573
CDMA ENG
Participant[quote=sdduuuude][quote=CDMA ENG]I was just taking off my USA shirt and throwing on my Italian kit … [/quote]
OOOOOOOO. Bad choice there. You don’t have a Slovakia kit, by any chance – do you?
Europe not looking so hot. North and South America kicking some serious World Cup boodie.[/quote]
Here is my final WC prediciton. The World Cup will be won by a country that I cannot point to on map!
CE
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June 24, 2010 at 3:11 PM #571866
CDMA ENG
Participant[quote=sdduuuude][quote=CDMA ENG]I was just taking off my USA shirt and throwing on my Italian kit … [/quote]
OOOOOOOO. Bad choice there. You don’t have a Slovakia kit, by any chance – do you?
Europe not looking so hot. North and South America kicking some serious World Cup boodie.[/quote]
Here is my final WC prediciton. The World Cup will be won by a country that I cannot point to on map!
CE
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June 24, 2010 at 9:34 AM #570543
sdduuuude
Participant[quote=CDMA ENG]I was just taking off my USA shirt and throwing on my Italian kit … [/quote]
OOOOOOOO. Bad choice there. You don’t have a Slovakia kit, by any chance – do you?
Europe not looking so hot. North and South America kicking some serious World Cup boodie.
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June 24, 2010 at 9:34 AM #571057
sdduuuude
Participant[quote=CDMA ENG]I was just taking off my USA shirt and throwing on my Italian kit … [/quote]
OOOOOOOO. Bad choice there. You don’t have a Slovakia kit, by any chance – do you?
Europe not looking so hot. North and South America kicking some serious World Cup boodie.
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June 24, 2010 at 9:34 AM #571164
sdduuuude
Participant[quote=CDMA ENG]I was just taking off my USA shirt and throwing on my Italian kit … [/quote]
OOOOOOOO. Bad choice there. You don’t have a Slovakia kit, by any chance – do you?
Europe not looking so hot. North and South America kicking some serious World Cup boodie.
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June 24, 2010 at 9:34 AM #571456
sdduuuude
Participant[quote=CDMA ENG]I was just taking off my USA shirt and throwing on my Italian kit … [/quote]
OOOOOOOO. Bad choice there. You don’t have a Slovakia kit, by any chance – do you?
Europe not looking so hot. North and South America kicking some serious World Cup boodie.
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June 23, 2010 at 9:16 AM #569825
CDMA ENG
ParticipantI was just taking off my USA shirt and throwing on my Italian kit when they scored.
Thank you Donovan for providing a goal that could not be disputed!
CE
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June 23, 2010 at 9:16 AM #570333
CDMA ENG
ParticipantI was just taking off my USA shirt and throwing on my Italian kit when they scored.
Thank you Donovan for providing a goal that could not be disputed!
CE
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June 23, 2010 at 9:16 AM #570437
CDMA ENG
ParticipantI was just taking off my USA shirt and throwing on my Italian kit when they scored.
Thank you Donovan for providing a goal that could not be disputed!
CE
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June 23, 2010 at 9:16 AM #570720
CDMA ENG
ParticipantI was just taking off my USA shirt and throwing on my Italian kit when they scored.
Thank you Donovan for providing a goal that could not be disputed!
CE
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June 23, 2010 at 9:11 AM #569820
Diego Mamani
ParticipantTeam USA finished the first stage undefeated, first in its group ahead of England, and eliminated Slovenia in the process. Go USA!!!
This was really a photo finish for Group C
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June 23, 2010 at 9:11 AM #570328
Diego Mamani
ParticipantTeam USA finished the first stage undefeated, first in its group ahead of England, and eliminated Slovenia in the process. Go USA!!!
This was really a photo finish for Group C
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June 23, 2010 at 9:11 AM #570432
Diego Mamani
ParticipantTeam USA finished the first stage undefeated, first in its group ahead of England, and eliminated Slovenia in the process. Go USA!!!
This was really a photo finish for Group C
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June 23, 2010 at 9:11 AM #570715
Diego Mamani
ParticipantTeam USA finished the first stage undefeated, first in its group ahead of England, and eliminated Slovenia in the process. Go USA!!!
This was really a photo finish for Group C
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June 23, 2010 at 1:36 PM #570069
Anonymous
GuestWhile I’m happy the USA won the game and group, I’m not celebrating nearly as much as everyone else– I must be the lone stick-in-the-mud. I expected more, as in the US getting two wins and a tie rather than two ties and a win.
:: sigh :: Maybe I just need a beer.
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