slavery reparations.

[outtamojo]

We are not going back to the way things were.
A movement is afoot,led by the young people.
They see the scale even if you don’t.
I am so proud of them.
All of us older folk need to die off so the world can be a better place.

I think I stole that last line from somebody here.

[ltsddd]

[quote=Coronita]That’s why so much ancient Chinese set and artifacts can still be found in Museums in UK.[/quote]

You should be grateful there are still “so much ancient Chinese set and artifacts can still be found in Museums”.

As bad and painful as it is to lose that much of a nation’s treasures to another country; in the case of China that might have been the best thing to happen to her.
Try to imagine them being smashed or melted down for scrap metal by the Red Guards during whatever the eff they claimed they were doing back in the 50s and 60s and 70s(?).

[FlyerInHi]

Itsddd, the British museum will lose the Elgin marbles argument soon.

[FlyerInHi]

In history, there is a principle called the right of conquest.
Revolutions also cancel previous contracts or obligations.

Slavery is very different. It’s clearly unconstitutional and occurred in USA which is an ongoing concern. Slaves were forced to work and didn’t get paid so there is debt due.

The Japanese American internees received compensation. The adequacy of the compensation may be debatable however.

[Coronita]

[quote=ltsddd][quote=Coronita]That’s why so much ancient Chinese set and artifacts can still be found in Museums in UK.[/quote]

You should be grateful there are still “so much ancient Chinese set and artifacts can still be found in Museums”.

As bad and painful as it is to lose that much of a nation’s treasures to another country; in the case of China that might have been the best thing to happen to her.
Try to imagine them being smashed or melted down for scrap metal by the Red Guards during whatever the eff they claimed they were doing back in the 50s and 60s and 70s(?).[/quote]

It could be argued that China probably would not have fallen to the Communists had western nations not raided and weakened China’s empire during the Opium Wars. Also, let history show that Taiwan was actually on the side of Imperial Japan during WWII and to this day still maintains a slave/subservient image among old time Japanese, especially in the way that Japanese officials never acknowledge Taiwan, even during the Tsunami crisis where Taiwan donated a lot of relief money to Japan. Old school Japan only respect those that have put up a fight with them, and from that regards respect the mainland Communists much more so than the Islanders that simply let bent over without a fight.

[davelj]

I presume that all talks of slavery reparations are for the purpose of (1) visibility – “I’d like to be seen on a talk show discussing something”; (2) politics – “My constituency likes the idea of reparations”; or (3) virtue signalling – “I care so deeply.” Nothing meaningful will ever happen in terms of cutting checks to individual African Americans because it’s simply too difficult to determine who is owed what and by whom.

Related, most of my ancestors were serfs in Western Europe for centuries. Serfs, while generally not treated as harshly as american slaves, were tied to the land, and bought and sold with such land. They generally had some modest amount of that land and their time – ~15% was typical – that was for their own private use (Why thank you, Mr. Duke!). The rest was owned by the Lord of the manor. So, basically, 85% slaves… better than 100%, that’s for sure, but still. Anyhow, I’m still waiting for a check from the aristocracies of Western Europe for the value of all of that free labor over the centuries (compounded to reflect inflation, of course).

To the victors – often also slaveholders and serfholders – went the spoils. Such is life.

[zk]

[quote=svelte][quote=outtamojo]https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ricky-ellsworth-black-cop/[/quote]

Did you read more than a couple of paragraphs down in that link?

It verifies exactly what I said.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Justine_Damond%5B/quote%5D

I could be reading all this wrong, but:

It seems to me like Noor shot Diamond in a split second. I don’t see how this would’ve given him time to consider her race (or gender or state of armament or footwear choice). Many people, when, say, a friend jumps out from behind something and makes a loud noise in an attempt to startle them, will react with a punch or something of the sort before really analyzing or understanding the situation. It seems to me that’s what Noor did. Obviously that’s horrible police work, and maybe even murder. But racially motivated? Doesn’t seem like it to me. In fact, what he wrote in the report aside (what was he going to say? She startled me so I shot her without thinking?), I would wager that if he’d given himself literally 3/4 of a second to figure out what was happening, he wouldn’t have shot her.

Chauvin, on the other hand, knelt on the guy’s neck for eight minutes, and for over two minutes after he was unresponsive.

Not really comparable, in my opinion.

[ltsddd]

[quote=Coronita]It could be argued that China probably would not have fallen to the Communists had western nations not raided and weakened China’s empire during the Opium Wars.[/quote]

China was already weak and had fallen behind most of Europe and Japan. The Chin themselves were foreigners. Guess which foreigners Dr. Sun worked so hard to drive out of China?

[quote=Coronita]
Also, let history show that Taiwan was actually on the side of Imperial Japan during WWII and to this day still maintains a slave/subservient image among old time
Japanese, especially in the way that Japanese officials never acknowledge Taiwan, even during the Tsunami crisis where Taiwan donated a lot of relief money to Japan.
[/quote]
Wait, wasn’t Taiwan a colony of Japan by then?

[quote=Coronita]
Old school Japan only respect those that have put up a fight with them, and from that regards respect the mainland Communists much more so than the Islanders that simply let bent over without a fight.[/quote]
Dude, they should respect Taiwan b/c the KMT were the ones that put up any fight at all against Japan’s invasion of China. The cunning red commies just hid out in caves in far flung areas to wait it out. You know like that saying “fisherman enjoys the fortune” strategy?

[an]

[quote=outtamojo]We are not going back to the way things were.
A movement is afoot,led by the young people.
They see the scale even if you don’t.
I am so proud of them.
All of us older folk need to die off so the world can be a better place.

I think I stole that last line from somebody here.[/quote]
In that case, COVID-19 is your exact answer. Since COVID-19 mainly only kill older folks. Lets open up everything immediately 100% w/out social distancing.

[ucodegen]

[quote=Coronita]It could be argued that China probably would not have fallen to the Communists had western nations not raided and weakened China’s empire during the Opium Wars.[/quote]

You might want to double check what you said…
Look up Chian Kai-shek https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiang_Kai-shek

Clause: 1937 he mobilized China for the Second Sino-Japanese War.

The US and Britain were working with him to try to protect China from Japan. Note also the use of the term ‘Republic of China'(democracy). Much of it was done on the sly (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Tigers). Once the the war with Japan was ended, the Communists under Mao resumed their Civil War (temporarily suspended to fight Japan), fighting a now exhausted army after the fight with Japan and using that to drive him onto island of Formosa now called Taiwan. The communists had not exhausted their forces to protect China from Japan. The communists under Mao did what Japan was hoping to do to the United States (in part) near the close of hostilities with Germany.

BTW; Opium wars were 1839 – 1860. Chaing Kai-sheks nationalists were defeated by the communists in 1948.

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