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November 2, 2007 at 12:51 PM #94883November 2, 2007 at 12:51 PM #94885
4Sbuyer2002
ParticipantDon’t listen to Prufrock. He’s wrong. Here is a list of homes “destroyed” in Rancho Santa Fe. 64 “destroyed” and 24 “damaged.” BTW the source of the information is the Rancho Santa Fe fire department.
http://www.rsf-fire.org/news/witch_creek_info.asp
Confirmed Destroyed (by Damage Assessment) 64 homes destroyed.
20043 2nd Place
20115 2nd Place
20230 Ash Lane
16910 Avenida Luis
16924 Avenida Luis
16925 Avenida Luis
20215 Beech Lane
6139 Calle Camposeco
6146 Calle Camposeco
7861 Calle Dos Lagos
17511 Caminito de los Escoses
17577 Caminito de los Escoses
17326 Camino Santa Fe
17326 Camino Brisa Del Mar
17450 Camino Brisa Del Mar
17475 Camino Brisa Del Mar
9527 Camino Santa Fe
9584 Camino Santa Fe
6125 Camino Selva
6129 Camino Selva
6131 Camino Selva
7683 Del DIos Highway
8175 Del Dios Highway
9821 Del Dios Highway
9823 Del Dios Highway
20127 3rd
TBD 3rd
17089 El Mirador
17134 El Mirador
17136 El Mirador
17007 El Vuelo
17116 El Vuelo
16725 El Zorro Vista
9728 Juniper Lane
9730 Juniper Lane
9727 Juniper Lane
20024 Kalmia Lane
9732 Kalmia Lane
17221 La Brisa
17237 Las Brisa
17345 La Brisa
Lake Drive and Juniper (no number)
20102 Lake Drive
20112 Lake Drive
20116 Lake Drive
20264 Lake Drive
20278 Lake Drive
7035 Las Colinas
6777 La Valle Plateada
17400 Rancho Del Rio
17403 Rancho Del Rio
17417 Rancho Del Rio
17455 Rancho Del Rio
18527 Rancho Del Rio
7872 Rio Senda
16827 Via de la Valle
7097 Via Monalex
7499 Vista Rancho Court
16501 Zumaque Street
16526 Zumaque Street
16583 Zumaque Street
16655 Zumaque Street
16729 Zumaque Street
16755 Zumaque Streetand here is the list of “Damaged” homes
Confirmed Damaged (by Damage Assessment) 24 homes damaged.
20110 3rd
6103 Avenida Picacho
5990 Calle Camposeco
5992 Calle Camposeco
6039 Calle Camposeco
6151 Calle Camposeco
17516 Caminito de los Escoses
17578 Caminito de los Escoses
10110 Camino San Thomas
20120 Date Lane
17077 El Mirador
17109 El Vuelo
17111 El Vuelo
17133 El Vuelo
16765 El Zorro Vista
17204 La Brisa
17211 La Brisa
16650 Las Cuestas
11650 Los Barbos
16501 Los Barbos
17509 Rancho Del Rio
16429 Via a la Casa
16715 Via de la Valle
16765 Zumaque Streetgrateful owner . . . .
November 2, 2007 at 10:33 PM #94996NotCranky
Participantbsrsharma
Thanks for your reply bsrsharma. Your four points all have speculative elements and a if it doesn’t work out you send the key’s to the lender. That last part tells me even you know it is gambling.
Don’t get me wrong I fully understand the value of borrowed dollars getting cheaper to repay. I also understand that potential buyer’s wake up one day and realize all that house “ain’t all that” and refuse to make the gamble pay off? Alternately, our economy can reach a point where all that money can’t so easily go to shelter because it is needed for other things or not so easy to get. What about the possibility the the leveraged buyer’s income stream suffers a shock? What about staying up all night worrying about it and having it negatively effect life and relationships and basic happiness? Now that we are both speculating, what’s wrong with letting inflation and/or a housing correction catch up before taking the plunge? It has the same effect and less risk. In fact if the average Joe does it this way he can be relatively rich after a period of time.
I could see taking a little more risk, rationalizing it with your theories, if the property in mind was a potential money maker instead of a guaranteed money pit. Those scenarios I tinker with almost everyday.
Raptorduck. Sorry if I was a little rough today. The comment about your wife shopping was really meant to be a response to the idea that “not buying your wife a house could be a big mistake”. I should have directed it that way. We need to cooperate with our spouses and sometimes find compromises not capitulate because of what ever the consequence of some “mistake” might be. Lots of guys have come on here and said “can’t hold the wife back anymore” and stuff like that. I know you have not. In my case my wife cares way less about a house than I do.
November 2, 2007 at 10:33 PM #95051Participantbsrsharma
Thanks for your reply bsrsharma. Your four points all have speculative elements and a if it doesn’t work out you send the key’s to the lender. That last part tells me even you know it is gambling.
Don’t get me wrong I fully understand the value of borrowed dollars getting cheaper to repay. I also understand that potential buyer’s wake up one day and realize all that house “ain’t all that” and refuse to make the gamble pay off? Alternately, our economy can reach a point where all that money can’t so easily go to shelter because it is needed for other things or not so easy to get. What about the possibility the the leveraged buyer’s income stream suffers a shock? What about staying up all night worrying about it and having it negatively effect life and relationships and basic happiness? Now that we are both speculating, what’s wrong with letting inflation and/or a housing correction catch up before taking the plunge? It has the same effect and less risk. In fact if the average Joe does it this way he can be relatively rich after a period of time.
I could see taking a little more risk, rationalizing it with your theories, if the property in mind was a potential money maker instead of a guaranteed money pit. Those scenarios I tinker with almost everyday.
Raptorduck. Sorry if I was a little rough today. The comment about your wife shopping was really meant to be a response to the idea that “not buying your wife a house could be a big mistake”. I should have directed it that way. We need to cooperate with our spouses and sometimes find compromises not capitulate because of what ever the consequence of some “mistake” might be. Lots of guys have come on here and said “can’t hold the wife back anymore” and stuff like that. I know you have not. In my case my wife cares way less about a house than I do.
November 2, 2007 at 10:33 PM #95058Participantbsrsharma
Thanks for your reply bsrsharma. Your four points all have speculative elements and a if it doesn’t work out you send the key’s to the lender. That last part tells me even you know it is gambling.
Don’t get me wrong I fully understand the value of borrowed dollars getting cheaper to repay. I also understand that potential buyer’s wake up one day and realize all that house “ain’t all that” and refuse to make the gamble pay off? Alternately, our economy can reach a point where all that money can’t so easily go to shelter because it is needed for other things or not so easy to get. What about the possibility the the leveraged buyer’s income stream suffers a shock? What about staying up all night worrying about it and having it negatively effect life and relationships and basic happiness? Now that we are both speculating, what’s wrong with letting inflation and/or a housing correction catch up before taking the plunge? It has the same effect and less risk. In fact if the average Joe does it this way he can be relatively rich after a period of time.
I could see taking a little more risk, rationalizing it with your theories, if the property in mind was a potential money maker instead of a guaranteed money pit. Those scenarios I tinker with almost everyday.
Raptorduck. Sorry if I was a little rough today. The comment about your wife shopping was really meant to be a response to the idea that “not buying your wife a house could be a big mistake”. I should have directed it that way. We need to cooperate with our spouses and sometimes find compromises not capitulate because of what ever the consequence of some “mistake” might be. Lots of guys have come on here and said “can’t hold the wife back anymore” and stuff like that. I know you have not. In my case my wife cares way less about a house than I do.
November 2, 2007 at 10:33 PM #95061Participantbsrsharma
Thanks for your reply bsrsharma. Your four points all have speculative elements and a if it doesn’t work out you send the key’s to the lender. That last part tells me even you know it is gambling.
Don’t get me wrong I fully understand the value of borrowed dollars getting cheaper to repay. I also understand that potential buyer’s wake up one day and realize all that house “ain’t all that” and refuse to make the gamble pay off? Alternately, our economy can reach a point where all that money can’t so easily go to shelter because it is needed for other things or not so easy to get. What about the possibility the the leveraged buyer’s income stream suffers a shock? What about staying up all night worrying about it and having it negatively effect life and relationships and basic happiness? Now that we are both speculating, what’s wrong with letting inflation and/or a housing correction catch up before taking the plunge? It has the same effect and less risk. In fact if the average Joe does it this way he can be relatively rich after a period of time.
I could see taking a little more risk, rationalizing it with your theories, if the property in mind was a potential money maker instead of a guaranteed money pit. Those scenarios I tinker with almost everyday.
Raptorduck. Sorry if I was a little rough today. The comment about your wife shopping was really meant to be a response to the idea that “not buying your wife a house could be a big mistake”. I should have directed it that way. We need to cooperate with our spouses and sometimes find compromises not capitulate because of what ever the consequence of some “mistake” might be. Lots of guys have come on here and said “can’t hold the wife back anymore” and stuff like that. I know you have not. In my case my wife cares way less about a house than I do.
November 2, 2007 at 11:45 PM #95021Prufrock
ParticipantThanks for the link, 4Sbuyer2002. Did you assume that all houses protected by the RSF Fire Protection District are in RSF, or am I missing the note stating so on the website you linked to? I thought you posted earlier about economically diverse areas like 4S being protected by RSF Fire. Maybe that wasn’t you.
Anyway, I am guessing that over the past 5 years you haven’t had the opportunity to learn much about the areas to your north and northwest. If you had, you could quickly see from the street names on your list that at least 5 were in San Diego 92127 and about 20 in the Del Dios neighborhood of Escondido 92029.
I still haven’t seen an actual figure for burned homes in RSF. The RSF Review lists the same number as your linked website, and does not break down the data. Without checking each address on the list you provided but did not investigate, I’d estimate about 35 in 92067. Certainly more than the 8-10 I previously thought.
Back to the issue at hand. It seems that Rancho del Rio and the other RSF neighborhoods facing the Crosby and 4S would be spots to avoid buying, or to buttress with better fire prevention planning. It’s funny because I never liked those areas due to the ground stability issues during wet times. Now they get the fire too.
With homeowners using their insurance money to rebuild, I really don’t see much of an effect on supply or demand in RSF as a whole. If I were moving into RSF, I’d go west of the village, and north of Linea. If fire hits there, the whole ranch will be in trouble first. There’s this place on El Secreto… uh, nevermind, that’s a secret.
November 2, 2007 at 11:45 PM #95080ParticipantThanks for the link, 4Sbuyer2002. Did you assume that all houses protected by the RSF Fire Protection District are in RSF, or am I missing the note stating so on the website you linked to? I thought you posted earlier about economically diverse areas like 4S being protected by RSF Fire. Maybe that wasn’t you.
Anyway, I am guessing that over the past 5 years you haven’t had the opportunity to learn much about the areas to your north and northwest. If you had, you could quickly see from the street names on your list that at least 5 were in San Diego 92127 and about 20 in the Del Dios neighborhood of Escondido 92029.
I still haven’t seen an actual figure for burned homes in RSF. The RSF Review lists the same number as your linked website, and does not break down the data. Without checking each address on the list you provided but did not investigate, I’d estimate about 35 in 92067. Certainly more than the 8-10 I previously thought.
Back to the issue at hand. It seems that Rancho del Rio and the other RSF neighborhoods facing the Crosby and 4S would be spots to avoid buying, or to buttress with better fire prevention planning. It’s funny because I never liked those areas due to the ground stability issues during wet times. Now they get the fire too.
With homeowners using their insurance money to rebuild, I really don’t see much of an effect on supply or demand in RSF as a whole. If I were moving into RSF, I’d go west of the village, and north of Linea. If fire hits there, the whole ranch will be in trouble first. There’s this place on El Secreto… uh, nevermind, that’s a secret.
November 2, 2007 at 11:45 PM #95088ParticipantThanks for the link, 4Sbuyer2002. Did you assume that all houses protected by the RSF Fire Protection District are in RSF, or am I missing the note stating so on the website you linked to? I thought you posted earlier about economically diverse areas like 4S being protected by RSF Fire. Maybe that wasn’t you.
Anyway, I am guessing that over the past 5 years you haven’t had the opportunity to learn much about the areas to your north and northwest. If you had, you could quickly see from the street names on your list that at least 5 were in San Diego 92127 and about 20 in the Del Dios neighborhood of Escondido 92029.
I still haven’t seen an actual figure for burned homes in RSF. The RSF Review lists the same number as your linked website, and does not break down the data. Without checking each address on the list you provided but did not investigate, I’d estimate about 35 in 92067. Certainly more than the 8-10 I previously thought.
Back to the issue at hand. It seems that Rancho del Rio and the other RSF neighborhoods facing the Crosby and 4S would be spots to avoid buying, or to buttress with better fire prevention planning. It’s funny because I never liked those areas due to the ground stability issues during wet times. Now they get the fire too.
With homeowners using their insurance money to rebuild, I really don’t see much of an effect on supply or demand in RSF as a whole. If I were moving into RSF, I’d go west of the village, and north of Linea. If fire hits there, the whole ranch will be in trouble first. There’s this place on El Secreto… uh, nevermind, that’s a secret.
November 2, 2007 at 11:45 PM #95092ParticipantThanks for the link, 4Sbuyer2002. Did you assume that all houses protected by the RSF Fire Protection District are in RSF, or am I missing the note stating so on the website you linked to? I thought you posted earlier about economically diverse areas like 4S being protected by RSF Fire. Maybe that wasn’t you.
Anyway, I am guessing that over the past 5 years you haven’t had the opportunity to learn much about the areas to your north and northwest. If you had, you could quickly see from the street names on your list that at least 5 were in San Diego 92127 and about 20 in the Del Dios neighborhood of Escondido 92029.
I still haven’t seen an actual figure for burned homes in RSF. The RSF Review lists the same number as your linked website, and does not break down the data. Without checking each address on the list you provided but did not investigate, I’d estimate about 35 in 92067. Certainly more than the 8-10 I previously thought.
Back to the issue at hand. It seems that Rancho del Rio and the other RSF neighborhoods facing the Crosby and 4S would be spots to avoid buying, or to buttress with better fire prevention planning. It’s funny because I never liked those areas due to the ground stability issues during wet times. Now they get the fire too.
With homeowners using their insurance money to rebuild, I really don’t see much of an effect on supply or demand in RSF as a whole. If I were moving into RSF, I’d go west of the village, and north of Linea. If fire hits there, the whole ranch will be in trouble first. There’s this place on El Secreto… uh, nevermind, that’s a secret.
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