San Diego homeowners, tell the Mayor and your councilman to oppose the vacation rental law

[scaredyclassic]

the us suprene court likely will not have HOAs on the docket either

[scaredyclassic]

people near me were running somesort of noisy puppy mill. i aint no snitch. eventually they moved. took 5 or 6 yearsyears. fuck it.

dude was an asshole trump supporter too ….fucking puppy mill. all the yipping and howling. i despise dogs, but suffering creatures of any type, even crappy dogs, sets my teeth on edge.

just seems bad to snitch. like itd come back to bite me

[FlyerInHi]

My experience is not anecdotal either.

People are jealous. It’s not that the shorter term renters are not quiet and mind their own business. The long time residents want friends and neighbors they can chit chat with and complain to. It’s all about them.

Rich or poor, long time residents think they own the neighborhood and they don’t like change because they are afraid of becoming irrelevant or pushed out.

They are just selfish and don’t consider the big picture. Home sharing platforms are great innovations in real estate. They allow people to experience staying places that were heretofore unavailable.

For example, you may not afford to buy an oceanfront property. But you could rent one for 1 week to enjoy with your family. Or you could stay in a historic house in Italy.

Now, if you block tourists from coming to your neighborhood, other people will do the same elsewhere. That results in less aggregate travel and experiences for humanity, a net negative. Less “wealth” for everyone.

[gzz]

The version that passed yesterday was even worse than the Mayor’s proposal I opposed. From what I can tell, vacation rentals are completely banned from the city unless it is someone’s primary residence or a secondary unit on the parcel.

So I guess all of Mission Beach will have to be converted to long-term rentals since there are very few people with primary residences there.

Laws like this show the downside of term limits. I am sure the law will be held up for years in litigation, but if it ever takes effect, the giant job loss and giant hole it blows in the city’s budget will be someone else’s problem.

Losing short-term accommodations of 40,000 units probably holding 100,000 people could cause San Diego hotel rates to skyrocket and cause us to lose ComicCon and other major events. Normal summer rates in San Diego right now, not on special event days, are already $150 a night at Motel 6 type places.

[Myriad]

Is there really 40k units for short term rent in SD? What’s the reference for that?
The MB change seems to be pretty drastic.
I’m sort of conflicted – I’m a generally a supporter of the free market, but out of town/foreign investors are really driving up prices globally which prevent residents from being able to buy homes. It’s not nearly as bad here in SD vs some places like Vancouver.

One of the complaints is that owners won’t be able to rent out – which is just false. They still do long term rentals.

Hopefully the city also allows for more hotels and public transit also.

[Friend]

Personally, I think the vote passed yesterday was positive and will help to prevent further commercialization of the residential sector. I can definitely see the other side of the discussion though, as it is more restrictive on property owners’ rights! However, I haven’t seen the data behind loss of tourism, jobs, etc. If anything, this was most likely hurting the hotel industry which is where many jobs are. I wouldn’t classify an owner of a STVR with a bottle of Windex a job loss. I’ve seen this, despite charging massive cleaning fees.

In this current market environment, this important inventory will not sit idle and should benefit renters and prospective homebuyers along with their families.

[njtosd]

[quote=scaredyclassic]people near me were running somesort of noisy puppy mill. i aint no snitch. eventually they moved. took 5 or 6 yearsyears. fuck it.

dude was an asshole trump supporter too ….fucking puppy mill. all the yipping and howling. i despise dogs, but suffering creatures of any type, even crappy dogs, sets my teeth on edge.

just seems bad to snitch. like itd come back to bite me[/quote]

We have a maternity tourism place next door. https://www.newsweek.com/feds-raid-maternity-hotels-birth-tourists-777643

The nice thing is that my daughter’s drum set is on that side of the house – so she can practice whenever she wants because, really, what are they going to do? Call the police? (Who, by the way, are aware of this situation, but appear to not want to do anything.)

[barnaby33]

Sadly birth tourism isn’t illegal. I’ve had more than a dozen requests for it myself.
Josh

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=njtosd]
We have a maternity tourism place next door. https://www.newsweek.com/feds-raid-maternity-hotels-birth-tourists-777643

The nice thing is that my daughter’s drum set is on that side of the house – so she can practice whenever she wants because, really, what are they going to do? Call the police? (Who, by the way, are aware of this situation, but appear to not want to do anything.)[/quote]

Are they noisy? Do they do anything that bother you?

If they are renting 30 days or more, they are well within city ordinances so there is nothing for the police or code enforcement.

Visa violations are federal matter. You have no way of knowing. You’re just assuming.

I’m with Scaredy. I would not snitch on people

I manage some properties where people don’t behave and I have called the police for loud music and loud parties with marijuana. Now, when people see me, they behave.
I overheard a big fat black woman call me the “faggot snitch”. I think it’s funny because it’s kinda true. I think by faggot she means urbane and well-mannered.

[njtosd]

[quote=barnaby33]Sadly birth tourism isn’t illegal. I’ve had more than a dozen requests for it myself.
Josh[/quote]

Not so sure about that: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/feds-raid-maternity-hotels-birth-tourists-777643%3famp=1

[spdrun]

Problem is that the US lacks real rule of law, and hasn’t had it since the sentencing “reforms” of the 1980s.

“Illegal” is whatever government thugs can arrest someone for, threaten them with excessively harsh prison sentences, and bully them into a plea bargain.

If we had rule of law, we wouldn’t be imprisoning 1% of our population.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=njtosd][quote=barnaby33]Sadly birth tourism isn’t illegal. I’ve had more than a dozen requests for it myself.
Josh[/quote]

Not so sure about that: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/feds-raid-maternity-hotels-birth-tourists-777643%3famp=1
[/quote]

Giving birth in the US is perfectly legal. I happen to know a lot about immigration because of my contacts.

What is illegal is lying to federal agents about the purpose of your visit and violating your visa (likely tourist visa). A tourist visa only allows touristic purposes and excludes marriage, studies, journalism, etc….

My young cousin is married to a German girl. She would always travel as a tourist in and out of the USA (under visa exemption for E.U. tourists). However, after they married, and she applied for a green card, she could no longer travel as a tourist. She didn’t know that so she kept traveling the old way and once upon entry she told the border agent “I’m coming home to rejoin my husband.” Well, that is tourist visa violation and she was detained and questioned for 1/2 day. Her green card application was canceled and she was given 7 days parole to depart. However, all she had to do was reapply for her green card which restarts the process. That costs over $1000, not counting the time lost. And while waiting for the green card, she had to apply for something called “advance parole” to travel because she is no longer a tourist. That’s why immigrants who have applications pending don’t travel.

Fashion models from Europe such as Melania often come to US for contracting gigs. But it’s too much work and costly to get work visas. They are coached by their agents to lie and say they come for tourist purposes (citizens of E.U. and other developed countries are exempt from tourist visas with reciprocity). Americans likewise go live and work abroad with tourist visas (or exemption) all the time. But that is illegal!
I can tell you for sure Melania was an illegal just like other illegals. Since poor Eastern European countries joined the E.U, their citizens benefited from travel easing. There is plenty of Eastern European illegals in LA. Plenty of Irish illegals in the North East (before the Celtic miracle, Ireland was poor).

I have a friend who is a professor but he doesn’t come anymore because he said it’s too much bother to apply for a visa just to attend conferences. Technically, attending conference is not tourist purposes so a visa is required.

[djc]

Tourists can use hotels. Residential zones are not transient for a reason. Stability of neighborhoods are important to developing a community.

I applaud the new law.

[poorgradstudent]

I’m ok with the spirit of the law, but have some concerns about the specifics. Hopefully they will try it, see what works and what doesn’t and reform it later.

[Author]

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