Ridiculously low contract rate jobs

[CDMA ENG]

One of the best times I ever had was when a recuiter got a inside line to the company I was interning at. We figured out his game because he was sequintually calling… 602.560.xxx1 then 602.560.xxx2… You could literally hear each cube’s phone ring one right after the other. Most of the cubes were empty. My boss noticed this and was so amused by it he had us interns start answering the calls using fake accents and names and had this recuiter thinking the whole company was ready to jump ship for a nothing offer.

Man each time I answered the phone he was getting more and more excited because he thought a fat payday was coming his way…

CE

PS We are seeing the low-balling in my sector too… When I tell them I can still get my old rates they think I am blowing smoke… Im not…

[dbapig]

[quote=CDMA ENG]One of the best times I ever had was when a recuiter got a inside line to the company I was interning at. We figured out his game because he was sequintually calling… 602.560.xxx1 then 602.560.xxx2… You could literally hear each cube’s phone ring one right after the other. Most of the cubes were empty. My boss noticed this and was so amused by it he had us interns start answering the calls using fake accents and names and had this recuiter thinking the whole company was ready to jump ship for a nothing offer.

Man each time I answered the phone he was getting more and more excited because he thought a fat payday was coming his way…

CE

PS We are seeing the low-balling in my sector too… When I tell them I can still get my old rates they think I am blowing smoke… Im not…[/quote]

Ahahaha, that’s funny. That happened to a place I used work at, a web design place. It was when the IT/internet was really hot. I came in one morning and a recruiter had left a voicemail. Turns out everyone else in the office got a voicemail from the recruiter. He even called the HR folks’ #’s and left voicemails also. Our HR person wasn’t happy about it.

I bet that same person got into mortgage broker business after the dot com bust.

[dbapig]

[quote=CDMA ENG]One of the best times I ever had was when a recuiter got a inside line to the company I was interning at. We figured out his game because he was sequintually calling… 602.560.xxx1 then 602.560.xxx2… You could literally hear each cube’s phone ring one right after the other. Most of the cubes were empty. My boss noticed this and was so amused by it he had us interns start answering the calls using fake accents and names and had this recuiter thinking the whole company was ready to jump ship for a nothing offer.

Man each time I answered the phone he was getting more and more excited because he thought a fat payday was coming his way…

CE

PS We are seeing the low-balling in my sector too… When I tell them I can still get my old rates they think I am blowing smoke… Im not…[/quote]

Ahahaha, that’s funny. That happened to a place I used work at, a web design place. It was when the IT/internet was really hot. I came in one morning and a recruiter had left a voicemail. Turns out everyone else in the office got a voicemail from the recruiter. He even called the HR folks’ #’s and left voicemails also. Our HR person wasn’t happy about it.

I bet that same person got into mortgage broker business after the dot com bust.

[dbapig]

[quote=CDMA ENG]One of the best times I ever had was when a recuiter got a inside line to the company I was interning at. We figured out his game because he was sequintually calling… 602.560.xxx1 then 602.560.xxx2… You could literally hear each cube’s phone ring one right after the other. Most of the cubes were empty. My boss noticed this and was so amused by it he had us interns start answering the calls using fake accents and names and had this recuiter thinking the whole company was ready to jump ship for a nothing offer.

Man each time I answered the phone he was getting more and more excited because he thought a fat payday was coming his way…

CE

PS We are seeing the low-balling in my sector too… When I tell them I can still get my old rates they think I am blowing smoke… Im not…[/quote]

Ahahaha, that’s funny. That happened to a place I used work at, a web design place. It was when the IT/internet was really hot. I came in one morning and a recruiter had left a voicemail. Turns out everyone else in the office got a voicemail from the recruiter. He even called the HR folks’ #’s and left voicemails also. Our HR person wasn’t happy about it.

I bet that same person got into mortgage broker business after the dot com bust.

[dbapig]

[quote=CDMA ENG]One of the best times I ever had was when a recuiter got a inside line to the company I was interning at. We figured out his game because he was sequintually calling… 602.560.xxx1 then 602.560.xxx2… You could literally hear each cube’s phone ring one right after the other. Most of the cubes were empty. My boss noticed this and was so amused by it he had us interns start answering the calls using fake accents and names and had this recuiter thinking the whole company was ready to jump ship for a nothing offer.

Man each time I answered the phone he was getting more and more excited because he thought a fat payday was coming his way…

CE

PS We are seeing the low-balling in my sector too… When I tell them I can still get my old rates they think I am blowing smoke… Im not…[/quote]

Ahahaha, that’s funny. That happened to a place I used work at, a web design place. It was when the IT/internet was really hot. I came in one morning and a recruiter had left a voicemail. Turns out everyone else in the office got a voicemail from the recruiter. He even called the HR folks’ #’s and left voicemails also. Our HR person wasn’t happy about it.

I bet that same person got into mortgage broker business after the dot com bust.

[dbapig]

[quote=CDMA ENG]One of the best times I ever had was when a recuiter got a inside line to the company I was interning at. We figured out his game because he was sequintually calling… 602.560.xxx1 then 602.560.xxx2… You could literally hear each cube’s phone ring one right after the other. Most of the cubes were empty. My boss noticed this and was so amused by it he had us interns start answering the calls using fake accents and names and had this recuiter thinking the whole company was ready to jump ship for a nothing offer.

Man each time I answered the phone he was getting more and more excited because he thought a fat payday was coming his way…

CE

PS We are seeing the low-balling in my sector too… When I tell them I can still get my old rates they think I am blowing smoke… Im not…[/quote]

Ahahaha, that’s funny. That happened to a place I used work at, a web design place. It was when the IT/internet was really hot. I came in one morning and a recruiter had left a voicemail. Turns out everyone else in the office got a voicemail from the recruiter. He even called the HR folks’ #’s and left voicemails also. Our HR person wasn’t happy about it.

I bet that same person got into mortgage broker business after the dot com bust.

[pjwal]

[quote=kev374]
Requirements:
6+ years experience in Java, 10years total
Core Java, XML, Agile, Enterprise Service Bus (ESB) is a must, Hibernate, Oracle, JSF, Flex,
JBoss Richfaces, Expert knowledge in Web services and standards – SOAP, WSDL, XML, XSD, Tools – RAD/WAS/WMP, OO design patterns

Rate is $35/hr W2

I am just stunned, $35/hr? For those skills? WTF? I know it’s not April so this must not be an April fool’s joke.[/quote]

This doesn’t surprise me at all. Any company trying to hire for these skills is running deprecated software and they know they can’t afford the rates of those more current. JBoss Richfaces? Cmon! They are attempting to contract an older out of work programmer that still actually lists this stuff on his resume and hoping to get some hits. This is legacy enterprise market and you cannot expect a high pay rate to maintain legacy systems.

Expert knowledge in Web Services and standard and they start with SOAP? How about answering the recruiter with SOAP failed because of it didn’t follow existing web standards!

Once you’re skilled enough on the software side of the industry, you should not list specific technologies on your resume. Nor should you search for specific technologies when trying to find work. UNLESS you’re looking for contract work and relegating yourself to a specific tech. And, if you are, I encourage you to read:
http://www.pragprog.com/titles/cfcar2/the-passionate-programmer

Do NOT go tech specific…focus and provide solutions, which means having the ability to pick up any of the technologies above during the first couple of weeks while you determine the problem.

[pjwal]

[quote=kev374]
Requirements:
6+ years experience in Java, 10years total
Core Java, XML, Agile, Enterprise Service Bus (ESB) is a must, Hibernate, Oracle, JSF, Flex,
JBoss Richfaces, Expert knowledge in Web services and standards – SOAP, WSDL, XML, XSD, Tools – RAD/WAS/WMP, OO design patterns

Rate is $35/hr W2

I am just stunned, $35/hr? For those skills? WTF? I know it’s not April so this must not be an April fool’s joke.[/quote]

This doesn’t surprise me at all. Any company trying to hire for these skills is running deprecated software and they know they can’t afford the rates of those more current. JBoss Richfaces? Cmon! They are attempting to contract an older out of work programmer that still actually lists this stuff on his resume and hoping to get some hits. This is legacy enterprise market and you cannot expect a high pay rate to maintain legacy systems.

Expert knowledge in Web Services and standard and they start with SOAP? How about answering the recruiter with SOAP failed because of it didn’t follow existing web standards!

Once you’re skilled enough on the software side of the industry, you should not list specific technologies on your resume. Nor should you search for specific technologies when trying to find work. UNLESS you’re looking for contract work and relegating yourself to a specific tech. And, if you are, I encourage you to read:
http://www.pragprog.com/titles/cfcar2/the-passionate-programmer

Do NOT go tech specific…focus and provide solutions, which means having the ability to pick up any of the technologies above during the first couple of weeks while you determine the problem.

[pjwal]

[quote=kev374]
Requirements:
6+ years experience in Java, 10years total
Core Java, XML, Agile, Enterprise Service Bus (ESB) is a must, Hibernate, Oracle, JSF, Flex,
JBoss Richfaces, Expert knowledge in Web services and standards – SOAP, WSDL, XML, XSD, Tools – RAD/WAS/WMP, OO design patterns

Rate is $35/hr W2

I am just stunned, $35/hr? For those skills? WTF? I know it’s not April so this must not be an April fool’s joke.[/quote]

This doesn’t surprise me at all. Any company trying to hire for these skills is running deprecated software and they know they can’t afford the rates of those more current. JBoss Richfaces? Cmon! They are attempting to contract an older out of work programmer that still actually lists this stuff on his resume and hoping to get some hits. This is legacy enterprise market and you cannot expect a high pay rate to maintain legacy systems.

Expert knowledge in Web Services and standard and they start with SOAP? How about answering the recruiter with SOAP failed because of it didn’t follow existing web standards!

Once you’re skilled enough on the software side of the industry, you should not list specific technologies on your resume. Nor should you search for specific technologies when trying to find work. UNLESS you’re looking for contract work and relegating yourself to a specific tech. And, if you are, I encourage you to read:
http://www.pragprog.com/titles/cfcar2/the-passionate-programmer

Do NOT go tech specific…focus and provide solutions, which means having the ability to pick up any of the technologies above during the first couple of weeks while you determine the problem.

[pjwal]

[quote=kev374]
Requirements:
6+ years experience in Java, 10years total
Core Java, XML, Agile, Enterprise Service Bus (ESB) is a must, Hibernate, Oracle, JSF, Flex,
JBoss Richfaces, Expert knowledge in Web services and standards – SOAP, WSDL, XML, XSD, Tools – RAD/WAS/WMP, OO design patterns

Rate is $35/hr W2

I am just stunned, $35/hr? For those skills? WTF? I know it’s not April so this must not be an April fool’s joke.[/quote]

This doesn’t surprise me at all. Any company trying to hire for these skills is running deprecated software and they know they can’t afford the rates of those more current. JBoss Richfaces? Cmon! They are attempting to contract an older out of work programmer that still actually lists this stuff on his resume and hoping to get some hits. This is legacy enterprise market and you cannot expect a high pay rate to maintain legacy systems.

Expert knowledge in Web Services and standard and they start with SOAP? How about answering the recruiter with SOAP failed because of it didn’t follow existing web standards!

Once you’re skilled enough on the software side of the industry, you should not list specific technologies on your resume. Nor should you search for specific technologies when trying to find work. UNLESS you’re looking for contract work and relegating yourself to a specific tech. And, if you are, I encourage you to read:
http://www.pragprog.com/titles/cfcar2/the-passionate-programmer

Do NOT go tech specific…focus and provide solutions, which means having the ability to pick up any of the technologies above during the first couple of weeks while you determine the problem.

[pjwal]

[quote=kev374]
Requirements:
6+ years experience in Java, 10years total
Core Java, XML, Agile, Enterprise Service Bus (ESB) is a must, Hibernate, Oracle, JSF, Flex,
JBoss Richfaces, Expert knowledge in Web services and standards – SOAP, WSDL, XML, XSD, Tools – RAD/WAS/WMP, OO design patterns

Rate is $35/hr W2

I am just stunned, $35/hr? For those skills? WTF? I know it’s not April so this must not be an April fool’s joke.[/quote]

This doesn’t surprise me at all. Any company trying to hire for these skills is running deprecated software and they know they can’t afford the rates of those more current. JBoss Richfaces? Cmon! They are attempting to contract an older out of work programmer that still actually lists this stuff on his resume and hoping to get some hits. This is legacy enterprise market and you cannot expect a high pay rate to maintain legacy systems.

Expert knowledge in Web Services and standard and they start with SOAP? How about answering the recruiter with SOAP failed because of it didn’t follow existing web standards!

Once you’re skilled enough on the software side of the industry, you should not list specific technologies on your resume. Nor should you search for specific technologies when trying to find work. UNLESS you’re looking for contract work and relegating yourself to a specific tech. And, if you are, I encourage you to read:
http://www.pragprog.com/titles/cfcar2/the-passionate-programmer

Do NOT go tech specific…focus and provide solutions, which means having the ability to pick up any of the technologies above during the first couple of weeks while you determine the problem.

[pjwal]

[quote=eyePod]You can get under $30/hr (for 1000s of hours) for high end Software, Firmware, and Hardware engineers. So yes, it is out there at those rates in India if you look for it. Not that it has anything to do with the dopey recruiter, but someone mentioned India.[/quote]

Ironic quote from a deprecated display name.

Partially true. There are many parts of tech that have become trivial and well known. Patterns have developed and it’s not as hard to do what was once complicated. However, the “high end” is already beyond that. They are not replicating solutions, but instead, devising and innovating on the cutting edge, which there will always be…in firmware, hardware and software.

Paul
P.S. I was once a renter and so upset at a landlord that, after asking me what I did for a living, told me he thought all those jobs where going to be outsourced to India. And he was a lawyer…we really need more of those innovators in our lives!

[pjwal]

[quote=eyePod]You can get under $30/hr (for 1000s of hours) for high end Software, Firmware, and Hardware engineers. So yes, it is out there at those rates in India if you look for it. Not that it has anything to do with the dopey recruiter, but someone mentioned India.[/quote]

Ironic quote from a deprecated display name.

Partially true. There are many parts of tech that have become trivial and well known. Patterns have developed and it’s not as hard to do what was once complicated. However, the “high end” is already beyond that. They are not replicating solutions, but instead, devising and innovating on the cutting edge, which there will always be…in firmware, hardware and software.

Paul
P.S. I was once a renter and so upset at a landlord that, after asking me what I did for a living, told me he thought all those jobs where going to be outsourced to India. And he was a lawyer…we really need more of those innovators in our lives!

[pjwal]

[quote=eyePod]You can get under $30/hr (for 1000s of hours) for high end Software, Firmware, and Hardware engineers. So yes, it is out there at those rates in India if you look for it. Not that it has anything to do with the dopey recruiter, but someone mentioned India.[/quote]

Ironic quote from a deprecated display name.

Partially true. There are many parts of tech that have become trivial and well known. Patterns have developed and it’s not as hard to do what was once complicated. However, the “high end” is already beyond that. They are not replicating solutions, but instead, devising and innovating on the cutting edge, which there will always be…in firmware, hardware and software.

Paul
P.S. I was once a renter and so upset at a landlord that, after asking me what I did for a living, told me he thought all those jobs where going to be outsourced to India. And he was a lawyer…we really need more of those innovators in our lives!

[pjwal]

[quote=eyePod]You can get under $30/hr (for 1000s of hours) for high end Software, Firmware, and Hardware engineers. So yes, it is out there at those rates in India if you look for it. Not that it has anything to do with the dopey recruiter, but someone mentioned India.[/quote]

Ironic quote from a deprecated display name.

Partially true. There are many parts of tech that have become trivial and well known. Patterns have developed and it’s not as hard to do what was once complicated. However, the “high end” is already beyond that. They are not replicating solutions, but instead, devising and innovating on the cutting edge, which there will always be…in firmware, hardware and software.

Paul
P.S. I was once a renter and so upset at a landlord that, after asking me what I did for a living, told me he thought all those jobs where going to be outsourced to India. And he was a lawyer…we really need more of those innovators in our lives!

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