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  • April 25, 2010 at 9:36 PM #544800
    CDMA ENG
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    [quote=AN][quote=CDMA ENG][quote=UCGalBut I’ve come to realize that it’s a lifestyle thing driven by kids with texting and mobile internet.

    I resisted texting for a long time, but I now need it to communicate with friends and relatives. Of course with the iPhone and all the other smart phones out there, a $30 data plan is compulsory. Add texting that that’s an extra $50.

    It’s an affordable luxury. Consumers are now hit with so many affordable luxuries that it’s hard to keep up.
    .[/quote]
    All of the PDA/Smartphone require a data plan… It’s because you can not shut-down the data part of the device and simply use it as a phone…

    CE[/quote]
    I used to have a Blackberry Pearl. AT&T let me have that phone w/ no data plan. BTW, I’m pretty sure you can totally shut down the data part of the device if they really wanted too. You might not be able to do it on the system side, but doing it in the OS or even app level is totally possible. There’s just no real good business case to spend extra money to develop such feature.[/quote]

    Must have been an older (2G) model. The problem is the PDAs sit on the data channel and try to do their business there. If they can not obtian the data channel then the go to the much slow voice/data channel. Which really makes things bad on the network. Sprint use to let you do that as well until they saw the destruction it caused the network… That is why the really don’t allow it now. As for the RIM device it is hard coded to check in with their data servers… except now they are banging away at the voice channel… Trust me… RIM knows my name by now and they don’t like me…

    But yeah… your are correct about them changing the OS if they wanted too but they won’t… goes against why having a Blackberry device…

    CE

    April 25, 2010 at 9:57 PM #543854
    briansd1
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    [quote=Arraya] Being second-order conscousness(aware) beings we can literally create our own environment if we wished. Which in turn, means we could create our own evolution or consciously evolve.[/quote]

    How many do you believe actually consciously evolve?

    Isn’t that kinda like reaching Bodhisattva then Buddha level?

    You may consciously evolve but the problem is then you die. You can’t pass on the conscience evolution to the next generation.

    Maybe with brain graft and transplant we could evolve consciously in the future.

    April 25, 2010 at 9:57 PM #543969
    briansd1
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    [quote=Arraya] Being second-order conscousness(aware) beings we can literally create our own environment if we wished. Which in turn, means we could create our own evolution or consciously evolve.[/quote]

    How many do you believe actually consciously evolve?

    Isn’t that kinda like reaching Bodhisattva then Buddha level?

    You may consciously evolve but the problem is then you die. You can’t pass on the conscience evolution to the next generation.

    Maybe with brain graft and transplant we could evolve consciously in the future.

    April 25, 2010 at 9:57 PM #544441
    briansd1
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    [quote=Arraya] Being second-order conscousness(aware) beings we can literally create our own environment if we wished. Which in turn, means we could create our own evolution or consciously evolve.[/quote]

    How many do you believe actually consciously evolve?

    Isn’t that kinda like reaching Bodhisattva then Buddha level?

    You may consciously evolve but the problem is then you die. You can’t pass on the conscience evolution to the next generation.

    Maybe with brain graft and transplant we could evolve consciously in the future.

    April 25, 2010 at 9:57 PM #544537
    briansd1
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    [quote=Arraya] Being second-order conscousness(aware) beings we can literally create our own environment if we wished. Which in turn, means we could create our own evolution or consciously evolve.[/quote]

    How many do you believe actually consciously evolve?

    Isn’t that kinda like reaching Bodhisattva then Buddha level?

    You may consciously evolve but the problem is then you die. You can’t pass on the conscience evolution to the next generation.

    Maybe with brain graft and transplant we could evolve consciously in the future.

    April 25, 2010 at 9:57 PM #544810
    briansd1
    Guest

    [quote=Arraya] Being second-order conscousness(aware) beings we can literally create our own environment if we wished. Which in turn, means we could create our own evolution or consciously evolve.[/quote]

    How many do you believe actually consciously evolve?

    Isn’t that kinda like reaching Bodhisattva then Buddha level?

    You may consciously evolve but the problem is then you die. You can’t pass on the conscience evolution to the next generation.

    Maybe with brain graft and transplant we could evolve consciously in the future.

    April 25, 2010 at 10:04 PM #543859
    briansd1
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    CE, I setup a 3GS iPhone for my teenage niece without a data plan.

    You just have to call AT&T then tell them to register a new handset (not a PDA) on their network. They’ll ask for the IMEI number. Then tell them to block the data service. After you’re done, move the SIM card to the iPhone.

    If you have an iPhone, AT&T wants you to have the $30 per month data plan.

    Without the data plan, when you try to use an app that requires data on the iPhone, a message will pop up saying that you’re not subscribed to a data service. Of course, wifi still works just fine.

    April 25, 2010 at 10:04 PM #543974
    briansd1
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    CE, I setup a 3GS iPhone for my teenage niece without a data plan.

    You just have to call AT&T then tell them to register a new handset (not a PDA) on their network. They’ll ask for the IMEI number. Then tell them to block the data service. After you’re done, move the SIM card to the iPhone.

    If you have an iPhone, AT&T wants you to have the $30 per month data plan.

    Without the data plan, when you try to use an app that requires data on the iPhone, a message will pop up saying that you’re not subscribed to a data service. Of course, wifi still works just fine.

    April 25, 2010 at 10:04 PM #544446
    briansd1
    Guest

    CE, I setup a 3GS iPhone for my teenage niece without a data plan.

    You just have to call AT&T then tell them to register a new handset (not a PDA) on their network. They’ll ask for the IMEI number. Then tell them to block the data service. After you’re done, move the SIM card to the iPhone.

    If you have an iPhone, AT&T wants you to have the $30 per month data plan.

    Without the data plan, when you try to use an app that requires data on the iPhone, a message will pop up saying that you’re not subscribed to a data service. Of course, wifi still works just fine.

    April 25, 2010 at 10:04 PM #544542
    briansd1
    Guest

    CE, I setup a 3GS iPhone for my teenage niece without a data plan.

    You just have to call AT&T then tell them to register a new handset (not a PDA) on their network. They’ll ask for the IMEI number. Then tell them to block the data service. After you’re done, move the SIM card to the iPhone.

    If you have an iPhone, AT&T wants you to have the $30 per month data plan.

    Without the data plan, when you try to use an app that requires data on the iPhone, a message will pop up saying that you’re not subscribed to a data service. Of course, wifi still works just fine.

    April 25, 2010 at 10:04 PM #544815
    briansd1
    Guest

    CE, I setup a 3GS iPhone for my teenage niece without a data plan.

    You just have to call AT&T then tell them to register a new handset (not a PDA) on their network. They’ll ask for the IMEI number. Then tell them to block the data service. After you’re done, move the SIM card to the iPhone.

    If you have an iPhone, AT&T wants you to have the $30 per month data plan.

    Without the data plan, when you try to use an app that requires data on the iPhone, a message will pop up saying that you’re not subscribed to a data service. Of course, wifi still works just fine.

    April 26, 2010 at 1:11 PM #543939
    bearishgurl
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    UC Gal, I too, have resisted any add-ons to my cell phone service (cheap, voice only) and have been “out of contract” for more than two years. My “Walkman” phone is still great (for me) cuz it is my “i-pod” and camera too, and is brand new still because it has been in a case since I got it (over 4 yrs. ago). However, some of the new phones do look appealing to me for the wi-fi access so I will probably end up purchasing an UNLOCKED one thru e-bay by the end of the year and just moving my chip to it. Then I will enjoy the wi-fi for e-mail, etc. wherever I can hook up for free, incl. my home. It’s not worth it to me to enter into another contract where AT&T blocks the true capabilities of the phone so they can charge you a min. of $720 (for a 2 yr. contract) to get SOME OF them back.

    If you already have the phone you want and it is out of warranty, you can buy the software to unlock your phone for a nominal fee and simply “flash” it. This voids your “warranty.” Actually, I have never known any who ruined their phone by “flashing” it to strip it of the carrier’s proprietary operating system. After flashing, you can load it with any operating system compatible with it.

    April 26, 2010 at 1:11 PM #544053
    bearishgurl
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    UC Gal, I too, have resisted any add-ons to my cell phone service (cheap, voice only) and have been “out of contract” for more than two years. My “Walkman” phone is still great (for me) cuz it is my “i-pod” and camera too, and is brand new still because it has been in a case since I got it (over 4 yrs. ago). However, some of the new phones do look appealing to me for the wi-fi access so I will probably end up purchasing an UNLOCKED one thru e-bay by the end of the year and just moving my chip to it. Then I will enjoy the wi-fi for e-mail, etc. wherever I can hook up for free, incl. my home. It’s not worth it to me to enter into another contract where AT&T blocks the true capabilities of the phone so they can charge you a min. of $720 (for a 2 yr. contract) to get SOME OF them back.

    If you already have the phone you want and it is out of warranty, you can buy the software to unlock your phone for a nominal fee and simply “flash” it. This voids your “warranty.” Actually, I have never known any who ruined their phone by “flashing” it to strip it of the carrier’s proprietary operating system. After flashing, you can load it with any operating system compatible with it.

    April 26, 2010 at 1:11 PM #544526
    bearishgurl
    Participant

    UC Gal, I too, have resisted any add-ons to my cell phone service (cheap, voice only) and have been “out of contract” for more than two years. My “Walkman” phone is still great (for me) cuz it is my “i-pod” and camera too, and is brand new still because it has been in a case since I got it (over 4 yrs. ago). However, some of the new phones do look appealing to me for the wi-fi access so I will probably end up purchasing an UNLOCKED one thru e-bay by the end of the year and just moving my chip to it. Then I will enjoy the wi-fi for e-mail, etc. wherever I can hook up for free, incl. my home. It’s not worth it to me to enter into another contract where AT&T blocks the true capabilities of the phone so they can charge you a min. of $720 (for a 2 yr. contract) to get SOME OF them back.

    If you already have the phone you want and it is out of warranty, you can buy the software to unlock your phone for a nominal fee and simply “flash” it. This voids your “warranty.” Actually, I have never known any who ruined their phone by “flashing” it to strip it of the carrier’s proprietary operating system. After flashing, you can load it with any operating system compatible with it.

    April 26, 2010 at 1:11 PM #544622
    bearishgurl
    Participant

    UC Gal, I too, have resisted any add-ons to my cell phone service (cheap, voice only) and have been “out of contract” for more than two years. My “Walkman” phone is still great (for me) cuz it is my “i-pod” and camera too, and is brand new still because it has been in a case since I got it (over 4 yrs. ago). However, some of the new phones do look appealing to me for the wi-fi access so I will probably end up purchasing an UNLOCKED one thru e-bay by the end of the year and just moving my chip to it. Then I will enjoy the wi-fi for e-mail, etc. wherever I can hook up for free, incl. my home. It’s not worth it to me to enter into another contract where AT&T blocks the true capabilities of the phone so they can charge you a min. of $720 (for a 2 yr. contract) to get SOME OF them back.

    If you already have the phone you want and it is out of warranty, you can buy the software to unlock your phone for a nominal fee and simply “flash” it. This voids your “warranty.” Actually, I have never known any who ruined their phone by “flashing” it to strip it of the carrier’s proprietary operating system. After flashing, you can load it with any operating system compatible with it.

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