the reopening of america is a pivotal historical moment?

[outtamojo]

[quote=ocrenter][quote=outtamojo]Pandemic need worldwide cooperation but those effen evangelicals/rapture folks like pompeo see one world government every move we make towards a world community.

We should be helping our southern neighbors more if only to keep the virus from moving north.[/quote]

Typically US would take leadership on this. A competent US President would have gotten the ball rolling in mid January.[/quote]

Also doesnt help when the cdc head is a hack.

[scaredyclassic]

I’m leaning bv toward full plastic face shield plus mask in public.

Actually maybe also in my house. My wife still sees patients : [

[scaredyclassic]

science: 1
dumbasses: 0
trump: -1
Mississippi: -36

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/10/us/mississippi-coronavirus-legislature-trnd/index.html

[zk]

[quote=scaredyclassic]

not sure how this all plays out, or what people really believe deep down

…

I expect most people wont suddenly head out to party, as I still get the heebie jeebies if the supermarket’s too crowded. [/quote]

Friend of a friend of mine was a big trump supporter. Went to Arizona to attend a party in the middle of their outbreak. Got COVID. Died. Left behind his two daughters.

It appears that they actually believe the propaganda deep down. That guy certainly seems to have.

[svelte]

[quote=zk]

Friend of a friend of mine was a big trump supporter. Went to Arizona to attend a party in the middle of their outbreak. Got COVID. Died. Left behind his two daughters.

It appears that they actually believe the propaganda deep down. That guy certainly seems to have.[/quote]

I’m sorry to hear that. Particularly for the daughters.

Otherwise I’d just say he made his decisions.

I struggle with how much to be sympathetic on many topics – especially those in the news this year – and how much to be indifferent. I still feel like I don’t have myself tuned correctly yet.

[zk]

[quote=svelte]
I’m sorry to hear that. Particularly for the daughters.

Otherwise I’d just say he made his decisions.
[/quote]

Yeah, no doubt very rough for them.

Unfortunately, even if you don’t have kids, right now those kinds of decisions are likely to affect others (by possibly spreading the virus).

[quote=svelte]
I struggle with how much to be sympathetic on many topics – especially those in the news this year – and how much to be indifferent. I still feel like I don’t have myself tuned correctly yet.
[/quote]

I know what you mean. It’s a crazy time.

Some Japanese theme park gave advice (intended to reduce the spread of the coronavirus) to its customers who ride on roller coasters. And others put it forth as a good motto for 2020:

“Please scream inside your heart”

[ocrenter]

People are throwing caution to the wind.

Some lady’s whole family drove to Vegas, huge house party during July 4th. One cousin started having symptoms a day or 2 after, now a bunch of them are all starting to have symptoms.

Another guy hosted a family from Phoenix also curing the July 4th weekend. Someone in that family had a friend with 103 degree fever, this guy now positive but no symptoms so far.

Colleague doing tele-medicine work for IE patients reporting the number of COVID positives just exploding.

It goes on and on and on…

[kcal09]

DJT has failed miserably to lead us through the pandemic. Instead, he is only focused on the economy which he believes is linked to his chances to get reelected.

[ocrenter]

[quote=kcal09]DJT has failed miserably to lead us through the pandemic. Instead, he is only focused on the economy which he believes is linked to his chances to get reelected.[/quote]

Of course what he failed to recognize is the control of the virus is the key to the economy.

[Reality]

[quote=ocrenter][quote=kcal09]DJT has failed miserably to lead us through the pandemic. Instead, he is only focused on the economy which he believes is linked to his chances to get reelected.[/quote]

Of course what he failed to recognize is the control of the virus is the key to the economy.[/quote]

Exactly. They can open everything and pretend nothing’s wrong, but if folks like me (and millions more) stay home it’s still recession or depression.

It warmed my heart to see the attendance at the Tulsa rally was about 1/3 capacity (1/300 or less would have been better though). The good people of that area are way smarter than this president. I was worried that that wasn’t true.

[svelte]

[quote=Reality]
It warmed my heart to see the attendance at the Tulsa rally was about 1/3 capacity (1/300 or less would have been better though). The good people of that area are way smarter than this president. I was worried that that wasn’t true.[/quote]

Tulsa is one of the more liberal areas of OK, which makes it even more puzzling that DJT chose that for his “rally”.
Tulsa has a strong LGBT community. Other areas with a higher open mindedness are Norman (with a large college population due to OU) and Stillwater (large college population due to OSU). Otherwise OK is very, very republican.

[kcal09]

He lacks the mental capacity to understand basic principles of science and economics. All he is worried about is himself.

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